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Poland rude_wredne 
Monitor: LG 27GL850-B Case:Corsair Crystal 570X RGB Motherboard:Gigabyte X570 Gaming X Processor:AMD Ryzen 9 3900X Cooling for processor:be quiet! Dark Rock Pro 4 Ram:HyperX Predator 4x8GB 3333MHz CL16 Graphics card:Gigabyte GEFORCE RTX 2080 SUPER Ssd:Samsung 512GB M.2 NVMe 970 PRO HDD:some 1tb HDD PSU:be quiet! 750W straight power 11 gold What do you think mens))? Nothing will be bottlenecked? Also is this case ok or do i need additional fans if i wanted to overclock CPU? Mens)))
2020-06-29 22:59
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Serbia FreeBaked 
Rich fakin bich
2020-06-29 22:59
#9
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Poland rude_wredne 
Mens really? Its around 13k złotych which is around 3k euro
2020-06-29 23:03
That's like 4-5 average salaries in your country, no shit really
2020-06-29 23:04
#23
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Poland rude_wredne 
Hmmm 🤔 i still wouldnt call it expensive. If i was buying a 100k car.. well that's expensive!
2020-06-29 23:10
#25
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Estonia muifer 
my pc is like 150 eur
2020-06-29 23:11
Now that's a yikes dawg
2020-06-29 23:12
#36
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Estonia muifer 
idk it runs pretty good in cs i have like 100-120 fps and in rust 60-100
2020-06-29 23:19
??? unless ur playing on a 3k map ur not getting 60-100 fps in rust with a 150 eur pc
2020-06-30 12:36
Maybe the money went into a mask and a weapon
2020-06-30 12:56
yes big grin and tempered ak, wearing this gives you +100 fps
2020-06-30 12:58
smiling while playing increases fps.
2020-06-30 20:14
this shit went deep real quick
2020-07-01 09:07
#281
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Germany sommares 
LOL
2020-06-30 21:54
#293
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Europe Vallon3 
Lmfao
2020-07-01 07:20
#292
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Europe Vallon3 
That's just pathetic...
2020-07-01 07:19
#303
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Estonia muifer 
idk maybe its called saving money, gaming is not the 1# number thing in life
2020-07-01 12:12
#16
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Russia totoRasper 
it's quite huge amount of money lol i'd buy some liquid cooling for ryzen especially if u want to work on that pcbuild
2020-06-29 23:07
#31
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Poland rude_wredne 
But lets say i dont overclock it. I will still need water cooler? Isn't this cpu be quiet fan not enough?
2020-06-29 23:14
#39
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Russia totoRasper 
idk why you supposed to get it overclocked when amd already squeezed all the performance they've laid in am4 socket, but ok, in case if you won't overclock it there would be enough that cooler imho
2020-06-29 23:21
#47
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Poland rude_wredne 
Thanks men 😎👌
2020-06-29 23:24
#57
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Russia totoRasper 
i just mean that still 3900x is a best cpu amd made and it's exactly a hottest one in a line so it would be so far-sighted to get any liquid cooling to make your temperature's balance more smooth and make less a crystal's degradation
2020-06-29 23:27
that cooler is definitely enough, I would recommend a 1-2tb ssd.
2020-06-29 23:23
#50
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Poland rude_wredne 
Yes i think i will get 1 tb ssd men 😊👌
2020-06-29 23:25
Anyways what are u planning to do with that pc so u wanna overclock a ryzen 9 3900:o
2020-06-30 13:50
#200
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Poland rude_wredne 
#171 mens, not interested in 3900 anymore
2020-06-30 13:51
Ohh well 3700x still a beast
2020-06-30 13:53
#202
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Poland rude_wredne 
In tests its same or better/worse than 3900, the difference is 1-3 FPS at 2k res in games. Of course 3900 better in editing and shit
2020-06-30 13:57
#245
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Portugal S4ntoz25 
2k resolution is more gpu based, thats why
2020-06-30 18:30
bruh youre buying an unlocked cpu why wouldn't you want to overclock it
2020-06-30 20:53
#260
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Poland rude_wredne 
#171 and site im buying from has only x editions
2020-06-30 21:01
for under 3k euro, check out XMG Apex 15 laptop on bestware that has a desktop Ryzen 3900 CPU in there. You can also spec the laptop yourself. Just use it as a desktop and attach a monitor and keyboard to it and you're set. Plus if you travel you can take it with you, it is relatively portable 2.7 kgs and has a 144 hz screen
2020-06-29 23:38
Lmao laptop xDD
2020-06-30 12:32
goon
2020-06-30 12:42
#165
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Poland rude_wredne 
Mens nooo laptops. I thought about it but no.. despite the ads they are dogshit. They all overheat and because of that the hardware slows down. Just no.
2020-06-30 12:44
Check out independent reviews for the (DESKTOP !!!) Ryzen CPUs in a laptop go and search Linus Tech Tips XMG Apex 15 notebookcheck.de XMG Apex 15 der8auer XMG Apex 15 Gamer Meld XMG Apex 15 go watch at least these and have a look at the benchmarks and then come back and post.
2020-06-30 12:54
#185
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Poland rude_wredne 
So far reviews i watched all said that laptops (top tier ones) run slower cuz of lower voltage. Then they run even worse under pressure. Also i dont want a heater under my hands 😞👌
2020-06-30 13:05
For which laptops did you watch reviews? The ones that have a desktop CPU in them?
2020-06-30 13:18
#191
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Poland rude_wredne 
Couple of them. Most had 2080/2080ti Or this one ASUS ROG Strix SCAR III it might run good but its still a laptop. Still a heater under hands. Its just annoying mens, especially with a weather like the one we have in Poland in summer.. every year its warmer
2020-06-30 13:26
Here you go, dude Have a look at the difference in CPUs between that laptop and what I posted. 3x performance and 40% less power gadgetversus.com/processor/amd-ryzen-9-3..
2020-06-30 13:30
#195
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Poland rude_wredne 
But its still a laptop mens 😞👌
2020-06-30 13:38
#176
2020-07-01 09:02
#294
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Europe Vallon3 
Laptops are literally worse than consoles.
2020-07-01 07:21
oh fak, u veri richhh
2020-06-30 13:32
#196
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Poland rude_wredne 
No mens, you are veri richhh))
2020-06-30 13:39
> 144hz and no sdd > rich
2020-06-30 11:46
There is ssd tho
2020-06-30 12:33
I mean i have 240hz and my build costs like 1/3 of this, also there is ssd tho
2020-06-30 12:44
#2
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Latvia YungPan666 
For CS?
2020-06-29 22:59
#3
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Poland rude_wredne 
Nooo. Well, yes. I will be playing CS but not just CS
2020-06-29 23:00
#6
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Latvia YungPan666 
For work on graphics or something like that?
2020-06-29 23:01
#14
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Poland rude_wredne 
Maybe video editing and shit like that. Its also for playing games on high settings without compromises
2020-06-29 23:05
#18
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Latvia YungPan666 
need bigger hdd for making cool videos at least 2tb, better 4 tb
2020-06-29 23:06
#27
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Poland rude_wredne 
But what about cooling and air flow in this case? #16 says i need water cooling. And is it really worth overclocking CPU? Like i would get 20 FPS more but i would need water cooling?
2020-06-29 23:12
#33
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Latvia YungPan666 
if you want to buy water cooling don't buy cheap, one my friend bought cheap, and it leaked, and his PC died, actually you don't need water cooling, because your cpu don't need to be overclocked, it is strong without overclocking
2020-06-29 23:15
#35
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Poland rude_wredne 
But just hypothetically speaking this CPU cooler be quiet isn't enough for overclocking?
2020-06-29 23:17
It depends what overclocking. Also u probably wont need overclocking, its just a buzzword used between pc enthusiasts that try milk as much power as they can which u dont need
2020-06-29 23:21
#43
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Poland rude_wredne 
Ok thanks mens that's what i thought. And doesnt overclocking kill the compoments faster? Even with amazing cooling
2020-06-29 23:24
Not really, depends how much u overclock but no, it wont really affect the life of ur parts
2020-06-29 23:26
#45
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Latvia YungPan666 
would be enough
2020-06-29 23:24
#52
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Poland rude_wredne 
Thanks mens
2020-06-29 23:25
You can buy relatively cheap if you know what you're buying. I have full loop build with bykski parts from china. Works wonders and it cost me like 300-400€ if I remember correct. Includes gpu block, cpu block, 280 and 360 radiators, water pump and reservoir + all connectors and tubes. High known brand stuff would have cost me double that.
2020-06-30 12:39
#234
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Sweden swediztann3 
Only reasons I see to get an aio over a air cooler is the looks, or if you travel with your pc a lot a heavy air cooler might not be a good choice. Otherwise a nh d-15 for example outperforms all 240mm aios and probably most of the 360 aios as well. you probably need to go twice the price on aio to get something a little better than nh-d15. I dont know about dark rock, it looks like a good cooler tho. Air is more stable as well meanwhile your aio might leak water 6 months after the warranty runs out. And it fits in the sound better within the case since its air fans compared to the sound from a pump that stands out from the rest of the pc.
2020-06-30 16:22
#5
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Germany ndeah 
imagine building an expensive ass computer to play cs 🤔
2020-06-29 23:01
#8
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Serbia FreeBaked 
Shit 8 year old game would find a way to not work on $10k PC anyway
2020-06-29 23:03
#10
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Germany ndeah 
wtf are you all doing with your lives I've never had problems with csgo
2020-06-29 23:04
Rank/Level and hours?
2020-06-29 23:05
#21
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Germany ndeah 
dmg 900
2020-06-29 23:08
Case closed
2020-06-29 23:09
#24
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Germany ndeah 
what, the fps problems don't start until 1000 hours?
2020-06-29 23:10
The fps problem don't start until you're on a level where mistakes are punished and advantages capitalized on.
2020-06-29 23:12
5000 hours plus is whenthere is giantic difference between 200 or 300 fps, can change your entire performance in a game. Also input lag from bad video memory and overheating is an issue. You can also feel performance issues more on higher hertz monitors
2020-06-30 00:41
ahahahha +1
2020-07-01 00:42
I would get a larger SSD
2020-06-29 23:01
#7
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Germany ndeah 
+1 if you are gonna do that kind of investment a larger ssd wouldn't be much difference
2020-06-29 23:02
and it costs 20€ more i think
2020-06-29 23:04
#15
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Poland rude_wredne 
Well yea there is opcion for same ssd but 1 tb
2020-06-29 23:06
im buying a new pc too and i cant decide between 3900X or the 10700K other than that yopur build is gud gonna last for the next couple of years
2020-06-29 23:06
#20
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Netherlands Bogdanoff 
Spaceheater or cpu, what do you want?
2020-06-29 23:07
whats the spaceheater
2020-06-29 23:26
#91
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Netherlands Bogdanoff 
Intel duh
2020-06-29 23:46
both amd and intel are more than enough for gaming and editing, im not a content creator expect when it comes to music, and some simple adobe stuff is also easy doable with the intel obvs the amd would be better for that specific reason but for gaming i dont see anything wrong with intel nor amd
2020-06-30 00:12
3900x, but depends what you do. Just get 3700x and buy flowers for ur gf
2020-06-29 23:28
nah gonna take the 10700K its a cheaper better 9900K gonna last couple of yrs, also both are okish cool with aio
2020-06-29 23:29
#194
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France Choubada 
3900x is cheaper considering the price of the b450 motherboard
2020-06-30 13:36
#19
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Netherlands Bogdanoff 
Why gigabyte x570 LUL
2020-06-29 23:07
#30
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Poland rude_wredne 
Why not 🤔
2020-06-29 23:12
#89
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Netherlands Bogdanoff 
Because there are way better options
2020-06-29 23:46
#96
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Poland rude_wredne 
Like...? And why?
2020-06-29 23:57
#107
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Netherlands Bogdanoff 
bitly.com/1H9DQSz this one has much better vrm
2020-06-30 00:05
#110
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Poland rude_wredne 
Because?
2020-06-30 00:15
#121
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Netherlands Bogdanoff 
U cant Read bro???😳😳😳😳😭😭😭 That's 100% haram😔😔😔🙏🙏🙏marshallah🙌🙌🙌🙌
2020-06-30 00:56
What does this mean?
2020-06-30 13:13
#189
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Poland rude_wredne 
A... Motherboard is.. haram? I was dont know this details
2020-06-30 13:17
save money on the 3900x (no need if your just gaming, get a 3600/X or 3700X instead)
2020-06-29 23:12
#34
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Poland rude_wredne 
Difference between 3700x and 3900x isn't that much mens but thanks for suggestion
2020-06-29 23:15
in the uk on amazon its about £120. you should be able to get a better monitor for that
2020-06-30 00:34
#32
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Qatar zablitz 
I are think you overpaid a bit mens. My build is RTX 2060 SUPER, rx 3800x, 512 ssd+2tb hdd, 16gb ram +144hz LG 24GL600F and new lenovo legion m500+Hp Pavillion 500 blue switch keyboard all for 1460 usd. Userbenchmark says i can get 70-75% of your performance for less than half the price.
2020-06-29 23:15
#38
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Poland rude_wredne 
I agree mens 😞👌 but that's the world we live in. Just for 20-25% more performance its double the price. Maybe the prices will go down a bit when new stuff comes out soon
2020-06-29 23:20
#44
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Qatar zablitz 
Yeah i hear 3000 series is coming out but nividia have been delaying nest gen gpus for 3 years now so probably still will be in q4 2021 or q1 2022 or smthing.
2020-06-29 23:24
Dogshit. Why would u ever buy x570? Buying hdd in 2020 when u buy 3900x and 2080 super? Lmao just get 1tb ssd or just use cloud. And u dont need 32gb ram
2020-06-29 23:20
#41
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Poland rude_wredne 
Why not x570? HDD will be for junk apps. Yes i will probably get also 1 tb ssd. Also i think 32 GB ram is good for future. 16 now is a standard. With new games we will need more sooner or later.
2020-06-29 23:22
Cuz u wont need x570 features lol. Do u even know what x570 is made for? 32gb is good for future..in 2030 maybe yes. Just get 16gb and buy ssd for the rest of the money, same with motherboard, dont buy x570...its fkin useless for u And no game is going to use more than 12gb of rsm, i can cut my leg off if it does
2020-06-29 23:24
#66
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Poland rude_wredne 
Well then which motherboard do you recommend?
2020-06-29 23:29
x470 is more than enough for u im sure, just make sure its ryzen 3 ready
2020-06-29 23:31
x570 is good if you have money to spend. otherwise you could go for B550, would do just as fine. Check out Hardware Unboxed channel on YT, they make lots of great motherboard reviews
2020-06-29 23:32
take a 570 or the new 550 if you take a 570 you are able to upgrade to ryzen4000 and they arent that much more expensiv
2020-06-29 23:34
#83
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North America aTTilla12 
X570 will be useful, it might seem a bit overkill rn but it's going to ensure the most stability for the 3900x(processor only second in power to the 3950x) as opposed to say a B550(a lot of them are nearly the same price as an X570) or B450, the X570 will also be future-proofed for the next-gen of Ryzen, X570 also has PCI-E gen 4, which will be used by a lot of SSD's in the future. It's actually a good buy the mobo has super good VRMs so it wants to upgrade to say something like a 3950x in the future or maybe a 4900 when that comes out he can do it.
2020-06-29 23:37
X470 future proof too. Pci-e gen 4 is literallt the only thing u get from these overpriced shitty x570
2020-06-29 23:43
#92
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North America aTTilla12 
yes, that's a good choice too but I am pretty sure that not all the x470 boards are Ryzen 3 compatible yet, so he has to upgrade bios. PCI-E GEN 4 is really cool though and if he's going to do stuff like video editing or photo editing the faster storage would be really cool. But yes a good X470 with updated bios might be better value.
2020-06-29 23:46
#97
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Poland rude_wredne 
So x570 is okay. Thanks men
2020-06-29 23:59
#285
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North America aTTilla12 
Yep gl with the build.
2020-06-30 23:10
#286
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Poland rude_wredne 
Ty mens 😊👌
2020-06-30 23:23
I agree with the SSD, just buy cheap SATA SSD 1 TB costs like $110, which is very reasonable.
2020-06-29 23:30
#46
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United Kingdom Lightning_DC_ 
Pretty good build. One thing to note is that your CPU cooler is MASSIVE, so check it will actually fit inside your case before you go for it. An AIO like a Corsair H115i or smth will obviously remove this risk. 2x16 would be better than 4x8, and go for 3600 speed if you can get it and afford it. EDIT: a couple of extra fans may not be a bad idea, Corsair Light Loops are good fans and will match your case obvs.
2020-06-29 23:30
What do you need the processor for? Get faster RAM. It doesn't cost much more.
2020-06-29 23:25
Cl16 is more than enough
2020-06-29 23:27
CL 16 3600Mhz would be the better choice
2020-06-29 23:35
Yes but he wont notice the difference
2020-06-29 23:37
#133
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Europe Tier1 
actually on ryzen CPUs it's quite noticeable
2020-06-30 11:27
Yes but he wont notice
2020-06-30 12:44
#60
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Poland rude_wredne 
Games, maybe some video editing or other heavy programs
2020-06-29 23:27
What heavy programs? No program is going to need this high performance pc
2020-06-29 23:29
3900x basically performs the same like a 3600x in gaming. You could save the money and get a 2080 Ti instead. Gives you way better performance in games than 3600vs3900.
2020-06-29 23:31
+1 xd
2020-06-29 23:32
#77
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Poland rude_wredne 
Okay that's interesting. But 3600 wont bottleneck 2080 ti?
2020-06-29 23:33
youtube.com/watch?v=R6j9k9FbMxE for example. By the way, in July there will be a refreshed version 3600XT 3800XT and 3900XT for the same price.
2020-06-29 23:35
How would it bottleneck? What resolution do you plan to play on? On 4K the performance will be 100% the same. On 1440p it will be 98% the same and on 1080p it will be 90% the same. So no, no bottleneck.
2020-06-29 23:36
You can also save additional money on getting a B550 mobo instead of x570. Why do you need the x570?
2020-06-29 23:44
imagine spending 3000 euro on computer while u just gonna play csgo(mostly) lul what a dumbwaste
2020-06-29 23:25
#55
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Poland rude_wredne 
Never said its for csgo (mostly)
2020-06-29 23:27
its ok to post here dream pc xd avg salary 400e dreaming about 3k pc xddd
2020-06-29 23:27
#62
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Poland rude_wredne 
Thanks for your input mens) it was really helpful 😊🖕
2020-06-29 23:28
Kinda +1
2020-06-29 23:27
+1 just buy a PC of 1990 year on windows vista and enjoy the game
2020-06-29 23:31
#75
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Poland rude_wredne 
Yes)) best way. Why bother with high frames when humens eye can only see 2 FPS (one for each eye)
2020-06-29 23:32
RAM: go for G.Skill 3600 Ripjaws or Corsair Vengeance 3600 or G.Skill Trident Z 3600, it is the most optimal RAM speed for Ryzen, double the infinity fabric clock of 1800x2. And it is also relatively cheap.
2020-06-29 23:28
#76
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Slovakia Moisty_legend 
Why would you need to rate this computer, its pure real estate
2020-06-29 23:33
You do not really need to overclock your 3900x, it is very capable for all tasks anyways. You will have to get an expensive AIO to overclock and it will yield like additional 5% performance perhaps. In games you will be bound by the 2080 Super anyways, if you want to play at 1440p (of course except for CSGO)
2020-06-29 23:34
#95
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Poland rude_wredne 
That's what i thought mens. I was asking about overclocking hypothetically. Yes im planning on playing on 2k (hence the 2k monitor). Thanks for help mens
2020-06-29 23:56
I dont want to offend u or bully but u need to look into pc parts..it seems like u dont rly understand wtf u buying because it doesnt rly makes sense why u would need such pricey parts, just google about processors like 3600 vs 3700x vs 3900x and read which is best for u, do this for gpu and mobo, u can google how much average joe needs ram and im pretty sure linus tech tips has a video on it too, dont get an hdd unless its 6tb+, otherwise hdds make 0 sense, i would spend money on psu because its very important, depending if u want to overclock get some fans but ideally get a case with good airflow and u wont need that, oh and get nvme m.2 for ur OS but honestly sata3 ssd would do the job too, its just a couple of seconds in the end..and it only matters when u sre transferring loads of files...thats probably it. Reddit has good answers on this btw
2020-06-29 23:42
+1 never save on PSU. But his PSU isn't bad. BUT it's overkill. He doesn't need 750 watts.
2020-06-29 23:46
he could go for a second 2080 Super down the line and then 750 would even be insufficient. Two cards are not as bad of an idea, especially for Machine learning. And in games you could get 50% more FPS with SLI
2020-06-29 23:48
#94
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Poland rude_wredne 
See, that's the problem mens. If i can afford it then why settle for less? You say its too much, the next guy says its just fine and future proof. Who am i supposed to believe? I did loads of research but then i come here and people say otherwise. Its just confusing. Yes im not an expert on this and i will probably get somebody else to pre-build it for me just because i did it twice in the past and just dont like it. So far from this thread: Get 1 tb mve 2 instead 500mb Get 1 tb ssd instead HDD Get ryzen 3700x instead 3900x (or wait for new stuff) Get "better" ram even tho it will make no difference at all Get less ram Different motherboard cuz x570 is just too much Get better(?) PSU More fans Bigger case Save on processor and other stuff and get 2080ti Do you see now how confusing it is? Even when i reply to someone 10 sec later there will be other person saying something different
2020-06-29 23:53
There is no confusion. Look at videos on Youtube that do benchmarks. You say you game. That's all you need: 16gb of RAM 3600MHZ Ryzen 5 3600 SSD whatever size you think you need (hdds are just slow at this point) B550 motherboard PSU with 550 watts, gold GPU depends on the resolution you want to play on. What resolution is your monitor?
2020-06-30 00:00
#100
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Poland rude_wredne 
This monitor is 2k res and that's also the res im gonna Play on.
2020-06-30 00:02
youtu.be/SNCRNO9o0DY Watch this video. Depending on what you play and the amount of FPS you need you can decide what you want. youtu.be/SNCRNO9o0DY (in my opinion for 1440p 2080S is a bit overkill >now<, but might be beneficial if you use it in 2-3 years) By the way new GPU generation by AMD and Nvidia will release within the next couple of months!
2020-06-30 00:07
#111
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Poland rude_wredne 
Haha, i've been watching these comparison for weeks now mens 😊👌 thanks for help mens
2020-06-30 00:16
#98 is much better pc than ur posted one in terms of value
2020-06-30 10:47
#126
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Poland rude_wredne 
Yes mens i will take 3700x instead 3900x also one big ssd 1 tb or maybe even nmve cuz yes, its only 1 sec difference but its not big price different. Also probably 500 w psu (or go for 750?). Two 16x GB ram (but its 3200mhz cl) instead 4x8 3600. And of course different motherboard (ASRock b450 pro 4)
2020-06-30 11:02
Make sure the motherboard you are buying is ryzen 3 ready or the sellers upgraded it manually for you or can upgrade for additional cost (few euros)
2020-06-30 11:16
#128
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Poland rude_wredne 
Ok mens))) thanks for help 😊👌
2020-06-30 11:18
B450 won't allow for new Ryzen generation. I retract my statement to get a B550 because, yes they will be able to use Zen 3 but only if you update the bios and once you do it, you can't go back to old version. So I'd suggest to get a X570 motherboard instead where this problem doesn't exist. 500/550 watts PSU is enough. You really don't need more than 16gb of RAM btw.
2020-06-30 11:41
#154
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Poland rude_wredne 
Thanks mens for help 😊👌
2020-06-30 12:28
no problem You already made a decision?
2020-06-30 12:29
#161
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Poland rude_wredne 
I have only two thoughts left in my head mens. Is it really worth going for 240hs monitor instead 144 ? What's the use of it outisde CSGO? Internet browsing? And also if im not in a hurry should i wait for new amds and possibly new GPU or nah?
2020-06-30 12:39
In my opinion 240Hz is not worth it. The biggest difference is between 60-100. 144Hz only a little noticeable but 240Hz is pointless. Especially if you have less than 240fps and that will be the case in 95% of the games. Yes, I would wait for new GPU. But you could also buy the new system except the GPU and use your old one until new gen is out.
2020-06-30 12:45
#174
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Poland rude_wredne 
Yes mens i remember around 6 years ago when i jumped from 60 to 144! Holy shit that was something. And yes, i keep asking people here what's the point of 240 (one guy even proposed to wait for 360hz..) if im gonna use it in1% or less games. Doesnt make sense, im not a CSGO pro. Ok mens, thanks for the huge help 😊👌
2020-06-30 12:51
It really makes no sense. Especially if you have a 144HZ monitor already.
2020-06-30 12:59
#187
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Poland rude_wredne 
Yea mens. But gotta change it tho, its very old BenQ one. Still amazing it works with 0 dead pixels and stuff
2020-06-30 13:08
#238
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Portugal S4ntoz25 
What monitor is that? the xl2411p? Asking because i was thinking about buying one of these. But in my opinion, 240 hz is worth it, specially if you wait for the new gen gpus. I think its likely that even AAA games at 1080 will run at 240+ fps in those cards, so in that case the purchase of a 240hz monitor is worth (considering that it will not only be useful on cs)
2020-06-30 16:23
#246
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Poland rude_wredne 
Yes mens, BenQ xl2411p is the one. Its amazingly good budget 144hz. Lasts years. And i will probably go with 144 mens.
2020-06-30 20:08
#251
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Portugal S4ntoz25 
So you recommend? :D
2020-06-30 20:31
#252
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Portugal S4ntoz25 
Also, i would love if you tell me the downsides of that monitor. Yeah, its pretty good and all that, but i would love to know from someone having it for years
2020-06-30 20:34
#253
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Poland rude_wredne 
Idk what to say mens. When you read some reviews then it will say colours are dogshit or something like that but honestly i didnt notice. Or more accurate: that was the best monitor i ever had so i just had no comparison with monitors with "better" colours pallete. For me this monitor has no downsides. I was using it for yeaars. Heavy usage, 8 h a day was minimum. I was playing and watching movies on it. I honestly cant say a bad thing about it.
2020-06-30 20:47
#254
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Portugal S4ntoz25 
wow, thanks for your honesty
2020-06-30 20:51
#259
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Poland rude_wredne 
Np mens. I heard opinions that right now BenQ is kinda meh but that monitor is from years ago when they were GOATs. And now its only 10+% cheaper than when i got it. Truly a value monitor
2020-06-30 20:59
#240
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Portugal S4ntoz25 
NO bro, that update to the bios that you are talking about is for b450 motherboards. The b550 ones will have no problem at all.
2020-06-30 16:25
+1 very good pc
2020-06-30 10:46
#99
Thorin | 
Sweden Kubey 
Imagine building a computer 2 months before ryzen 4000 and ampere comes out LMAO
2020-06-30 00:01
#101
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Poland rude_wredne 
Wtf is ampere
2020-06-30 00:02
#102
Thorin | 
Sweden Kubey 
Rtx 3000. you stupid? edit: Mb, yes you are since you are building a computer now lol
2020-06-30 00:03
#103
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Poland rude_wredne 
You are the second swede im this thread just coming and insulting. What the fuck is your problem
2020-06-30 00:04
#105
Thorin | 
Sweden Kubey 
We don't tolerate retards. It's part of our culture lul
2020-06-30 00:05
#108
Thorin | 
Sweden Kubey 
You shouldn't claim that you did research when you don't know any of this shit xd
2020-06-30 00:07
#104
Thorin | 
Sweden Kubey 
Also 360hz comes out really soon as well. You omega stoopid
2020-06-30 00:04
#236
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Portugal S4ntoz25 
360hz is still overkill.
2020-06-30 16:20
yeah, he should really wait for Ryzen 4000
2020-06-30 00:25
Dont go for ryzen man! You will probably have latency and input lag issues at some point. Tried 2 ryzen builds myself (with 3600 and 3900X) came back to intel. Ryzen is not for cs go yet. If you are really into comp cs go you should go for intel( source:trust me). But fr
2020-06-30 00:20
this is really dodgy what you write, check out all the benchmarks: Ryzen 3000 is as capable or even better for csgo than Intel
2020-06-30 00:25
What are you talking about bratha? The fps is better for the price but the input lag is much worse. And the fps difference is 13-15% on average but the 1% lows are much higher on intel. I dont really care if i have 300 or 400 fps but i care if i have 1-1.5ms input lag on intel vs 3-4ms on ryzen. Low input lag and consistent mouse feel is most inportant when it comes to cs !
2020-06-30 00:36
What the fuck are u talking about? Do you even know how input lag works?
2020-06-30 10:48
#134
i am | 
Europe Tier1 
You have no idea what you're talking about
2020-06-30 11:29
Jesus god... did u read on some weird forum about ryzen having higher input lag?.. do you even know what kind of input lag that they talk about??? we talking NANOSECONDS here... not fking miliseconds... u never ever gonna FEEL a freaking nanosecond... just stop urself rly.. But funny enough i do have a 3900x and a 10900k next to me and there is ZERO dif in input lag, but i bet ur a super human with eagle eyes that can detect nanoseconds right??. One last thing... i forgot to mention that the "input lag" everyone talks about is about caching and memory... so there is ZERO dif between intel and amd...
2020-06-30 11:54
> One last thing... i forgot to mention that the "input lag" everyone talks about is about caching and memory... so there is ZERO dif between intel and amd If he is talking about that he is actually certified retarded and should go back to reddit
2020-06-30 12:45
#177
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Poland rude_wredne 
I was actually going to ask about this input lag cuz it sounds serious but first google result and.. its about nanoseconds.. intel fanbois really are something else.
2020-06-30 12:54
Honestly i think hes trying to say that when playing counter strike there is a delay on ryzen cpus when moving around on keyboard and mouse.. which is not even true bcus there is zero dif... and in case its true it sure got nothing to do with the cpu but something totally dif.. and EVEN if the input lag did something to ur mouse or keyboard he still wudnt feel a dif bcus it is literally impossible to feel 50 or 60 nanoseconds of delay...
2020-06-30 14:36
you have money to buy a 3900x and 2080 super but can't buy a 1tb ssd/3tb hdd?seems fake
2020-06-30 00:24
#118
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Poland rude_wredne 
It was just a loose idea. I will probably ditch nvme and buy one 1 tb ssd since nvme will give me like 1.5 sec difference in loading times for normal usage.
2020-06-30 00:39
Correct
2020-06-30 10:48
144 Hz rotfl
2020-06-30 00:45
#129
cajunb | 
Europe jok9rz 
dont forget to buy a good monitor... playing on 100hz with this is pointless
2020-06-30 11:22
#131
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Poland rude_wredne 
144 mens. And higher Hz will be only used in csgo so what's the point
2020-06-30 11:24
#137
cajunb | 
Europe jok9rz 
i talk about latency ms, color etc. do you really think company built 244hz monitors just for csgo? damn are sure you want to buy this kind of computer? you sounds really idiotic
2020-06-30 11:40
#144
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Poland rude_wredne 
Then explain to me which game will support 240 or even 360 Hz?
2020-06-30 12:11
Most modern games tbh
2020-06-30 15:32
#255
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Poland rude_wredne 
What i meant was in which game (apart from CSGO) will i get that amount of FPS mens. Buying 240 for just one game? And then be annoyed in other games because have to change it to 144.
2020-06-30 20:51
its not annoying to change it back to 144hz..its literally one click. and u will get consistent 144fps on a lot of modern games depending what games u play ofc
2020-06-30 21:14
#270
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Poland rude_wredne 
I mean annoying because of getting used to 240 mens. Lets say i play CS 240, then i open BF4 and have to get used to 144 again
2020-06-30 21:34
nah, i play some games on 60hz and some on 144hz, its not like it breaks ur brain. but maybe its just me
2020-06-30 21:43
#130
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CIS ObitoP2 
RAM is a piece of crap, buy a Patriot Viper 4400Mhz CL19, their overclocked level is several times higher
2020-06-30 11:23
#132
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Poland rude_wredne 
What's the actual use of this? Tbh i think its just hurr durr higher numbers = "better"
2020-06-30 11:25
There is no use. The "perfect" RAM for 3700X is CL16 3600MHZ.
2020-06-30 11:42
#145
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Poland rude_wredne 
That's what i thought mens. Just bigger numbers that mean nothing 😎👌
2020-06-30 12:12
#243
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CIS ObitoP2 
It has an overclocking level many times higher, if you do not understand the RAM chips, then do not meddle in this topic.
2020-06-30 17:51
#247
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Poland rude_wredne 
You are right, i dont know anything about overclocking ram, never done it and didnt really look into it. Tbh im not a huge overclocking enthusiast
2020-06-30 20:10
Trust me, it doesn't fucking matter.
2020-06-30 21:20
#271
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Poland rude_wredne 
Xaxaxaxaxa okay mens 😊👌. All this overclocking thing is just not my piece of cake. I just dont need to overclock anything with that PC
2020-06-30 21:36
Exactly. You don't need to.
2020-06-30 21:39
pretty good
2020-06-30 11:32
so you just took the most expensive parts from a website and did copy pasta? 0/8
2020-06-30 11:33
#146
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Poland rude_wredne 
Nope
2020-06-30 12:12
How much in Euros for this? & is that monitor 144 or 244?
2020-06-30 11:42
#148
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Poland rude_wredne 
I changed couple of things thanks to this post CPU is AMD 3700x, motherboard will be some b450 one, 500 psu not 750, 1 gig SSD instead ssd + HDD (probably will go for nvme 1 tb) and two 18 gig ram not 4x8. This monitor is 144hz. I just dont know if its worth going for 240. There isnt many games that will support this fps wise so wont it be useless apart from CS and normal usage?
2020-06-30 12:17
How much did you spend for this build (including the 144 monitor)? in Euros
2020-06-30 12:19
#153
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Poland rude_wredne 
Its shy of 12k (including bois building it for me and windows 10) złotych which is ~2,5k euro. I didnt buy it yet mens
2020-06-30 12:23
12K Euros? WTF :O You are rich menn))))
2020-06-30 12:35
#233
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Portugal S4ntoz25 
You are getting completely scammed. Your build isnt 12k worth
2020-06-30 16:18
#237
cajunb | 
Europe jok9rz 
"12k (including bois building it for me and windows 10) złotych which is ~2,5k euro." he wrote a sentence with less than 30words and you still cant read it when you ask a question...
2020-06-30 16:23
Looks pretty good tho there is a few things i would have done dif. Get g.skill 3600mhz 14cl or 16cl if money matters :D Get higher tier motherboard, gigabyte is fine but that version is a mid tier gigabyte mobo but it will still do its job... (gigabyte aorus pro) would be a better option. Graphic card i wud always pick evga over any other brand... and the SSD is fine but expensive for what u get and honestly a 660p 2tb wud prob have costed around the same and been as fast as the 970 evo in games and most things.. but benchmarks and apps where u have to move alot the 970 wud destroy it easily.
2020-06-30 11:46
#158
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Poland rude_wredne 
Yes mens i will be taking different ram and different motherboard. Also probably 1 tb nvme instead double (hdd+nvme/ssd) Thanks 😊👌
2020-06-30 12:34
If you do get a 660p nvme i wud suggest u get a tiny little heatsink on it unless there is one where u place it. Because the down side with it is if it hits 70c it will shut down all write on it to get the temp lower again but a tiny little heatsink on it wud reduce it to 45-55c 24/7. 970 is indeed better quality but 660p is more than enough and ppl who complain about the durability of it dont know what they talking about... 660p can last easily 10 years of normal usage... where a 970 cud last 20+... but in 10 years you prob have a dif pc anyway...
2020-06-30 14:30
#211
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Poland rude_wredne 
But in normal usage is nvme really worth it? In games the difference is most of the times is 0.5-1 sec when compared to "regular" ssd
2020-06-30 14:35
Nvme is super cheap and u save urself 2 cables bcus u can put it straight to the motherboard... and sata is dead tech so you might aswell go for nvme.
2020-06-30 14:37
#216
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Poland rude_wredne 
Okay, thanks mens 😎👌
2020-06-30 14:37
Good
2020-06-30 12:15
#149
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Serbia LtN)) 
8/8
2020-06-30 12:17
Great build but make sure you buy additional fans to put in your case, from what it looks like your case can fit 2x120mm fans on the top and 3x120mm in the front so try to at least fill up the top to help with cpu temps. If you can I would also recommend buying a Firecuda HDD instead, for a slightly increased price you get extra cache meaning it will act more ssd-like and load things up faster, while you're at it upgrade the ram to 3600mhz and then you should have the ultimate build 👍
2020-06-30 12:42
#171
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Poland rude_wredne 
Thanks mens but i already changed most of the build (cant edit first post) thanks to this thread. CPU > ryzen 3700x Mobo stays the same or just different 570 for future Different ram > 2x18 One 1 tb ssd/nvme 500 W psu Or i will just wait a lil longer for new CPU and GPU 🤔👌
2020-06-30 12:47
Tbh this is probably better for gaming, the 3700x is cheaper and is very similar to the 3900x, difference being the cores/thread, also go for a SSD instead of an NVMe, the cost less and the difference is minuscule, and if you're planning on doing an upgrade within 2-3 years I recommend going for 600w psu since the newer amd cpus will have a much higher TDP, same with gpus. Or you can wait a lil longer for a new CPU and GPU 🤔👌
2020-06-30 12:57
#186
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Poland rude_wredne 
Actually in some games 3700x runs better (its like 2-3 FPS more) than 3900x what a blunder
2020-06-30 13:07
Only advice you should listen to is the RAM. I, PERSONALLY, Would highly suggest looking into corsair nvme as they are gen 4 pci-e. You won't notice a difference between a regular ssd and nvme drive is absolute horse shit. 3-4x the read and write speed but "you won't notice a difference". For gaming, you won't see much of a difference between the 3700x and the 3900x sure. As soon as you do something more demanding like video processing etc. You'll 100% regret not paying the 100euros more for 3900x. These people wouldn't spend that kind of money on a pc and are feeding you feedback based on their personal opinion of how much they feel comfortable. If you can go all in... why wouldn't you? Some people spend that kind of money on a pair of shoes... Edit: don't downgrade your PSU, even if it is overkill.
2020-06-30 12:49
#183
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Poland rude_wredne 
So #171 but better psu even if its overkill? My last CPU was/is i5 6600 and GPU GTX 1070 and for my small cs clips (3-4 min) it was okay. I think 3700x will be still a huge upgrade. Also this nvme apparently runs very hot (samsung 970 Evo plus)
2020-06-30 13:02
Pretty much yeah, honestly the power supply and motherboard are where you shouldn't cheap out.
2020-06-30 13:47
#198
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Poland rude_wredne 
That's what i was thinking too mens, thanks 😊👌
2020-06-30 13:49
Delusional kid spotted
2020-06-30 15:33
0/8
2020-06-30 18:26
u are retarded
2020-06-30 21:14
0/8
2020-07-01 07:17
k
2020-06-30 12:57
i would up the ram a bit more and go for 3600, also if you are not in a rush i would suggest you to wait for the zen 3 ryzen 4000 which should be launched by the end of the year, or mby even earlier
2020-06-30 14:05
#207
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Poland rude_wredne 
Yea mens #171
2020-06-30 14:28
sure mens, just wait a lil longer for new CPU and GPU 🤔👌 cheers
2020-06-30 14:33
#214
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Poland rude_wredne 
Ok mens thanks
2020-06-30 14:36
#221
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Europe letqpena 
Go for 1TB NVMe. Otherwise really solid.
2020-06-30 14:48
#222
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Lithuania Ufasas 
its shit man, i5 3570k , 2x4 gb, 240 ssd, gtx 750 ti, still good, no need trillion power cpu, still 106-119 fps 1080 p '@ medium in csgo
2020-06-30 14:57
so what ? i got i5-7500 + 1060 gtx + 16gb and got 250-300 fps, but in other games its trash
2020-06-30 16:17
#248
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Poland rude_wredne 
Ok men but you didnt even check the monitor, its 2k and thats the resolucion im planning to play on. Also i want high settings not low. I dont want my game to look like blurry dogshit. On YT tests this pc will gib me 300+ FPS in 2k resolucion. And its also for other games and programs, not just CS. If for CS then yea, its a huge overkill
2020-06-30 20:13
some nzxt case with a nice side panel lol (maybe the h200i) msi bazooka b450m ryzen 3600x stock cpu fan g.skill flare 16gb 2070 super black kingston 240gb ssd 1 2tb hdd 1 500gb hdd gigabyte 650 bronze
2020-06-30 14:57
#227
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United States clockworkk 
ryzen kek
2020-06-30 15:33
why not i9 9900k and 2080 ti? not really big difference in price
2020-06-30 16:14
#250
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Poland rude_wredne 
2080 ti is over double the price of 2080 super 🤔👌 and i9 900k will give me max. 8 FPS more in some games. Outside games its slower than 3700x in basically everything.
2020-06-30 20:16
#231
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Portugal S4ntoz25 
You could switch your x570 motherboard to a good b550 one i would buy 2 sticks of 16gb instead of 4x8 gb
2020-06-30 16:14
#235
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Portugal S4ntoz25 
Also, there is big difference between r9 3900x and the r7 3700x so you could save that money and start thinking about upgrading your gpu to a 2080 ti
2020-06-30 16:19
#239
cajunb | 
Europe jok9rz 
btw why you pay for windows 10 when you can get it for free?
2020-06-30 16:24
#257
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Poland rude_wredne 
By free you mean pirate it then yea. For legit free i would have to have legit owned windows 7, 8 or 8.1. And i dont cuz my last pc had free win 10.
2020-06-30 20:53
#277
cajunb | 
Europe jok9rz 
so use the same serial number.
2020-06-30 21:45
#278
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Poland rude_wredne 
Do you think i kept a serial number of free win10 installed years ago? Cmon mens 🙄👌
2020-06-30 21:48
#287
cajunb | 
Europe jok9rz 
idk, you think having a 240hz is useless. you post a computer config to not play only csgo on a full website talking about csgo. you sounds stupid to me, so yes you're capable of anything
2020-06-30 23:50
#288
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Poland rude_wredne 
Never said 240hz is useless. Yes, its a csgo forum but if you looked close i created this thread in off topic section. I have no clue what the fuck is your problem. Just masturbate or something. Are you really that triggered because you were partially wrong about win 10 being for free? Unless you meant pirate version then you gucci
2020-07-01 00:06
#241
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United States camdavis9 
don't like the case and if you don't do any productive work than getting the 3900x over the 3700x is ridiculous for gaming. pc-builds.com/calculator/Ryzen_9_3900X/G.. This isn't saying the 2080 super is bad, it obviously isn't. But the 3900x is so overkill for gaming youtu.be/Wla-ecxAyRg these benchmarks show the exact same results for 3700x and 3900x in most titles. The 3900x has more longevity in the high end market but I think the 3700x will be perfectly fine for the highest tier graphics cards for the next few years and is easily enough for the 2080 super
2020-06-30 16:39
#258
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Poland rude_wredne 
Yea mens i will get 3700x (or wait for new stuff) #171. Case just an loose proposition. I will probably get different one without RGB but with couple of fans. Thanks for helping out mens
2020-06-30 20:56
#262
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United States camdavis9 
Glad to hear but I did some research in to "bottleneck calculator" I cited and it's actually fairly inaccurate in an attempt to get people to purchase new components. My point still stands with the benchmark I sent for the 3700x vs 3900x but avoid anything that claims to be a "bottleneck calculator" and base your decisions off benchmarks of the components you want.
2020-06-30 21:07
#264
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Poland rude_wredne 
I saw this calculator. Its pure trash. Top trash. Anything but 2080ti bottlenecks new CPUs according to calculator.
2020-06-30 21:10
Its good, how you like mine? imgur.com/a/C27TrBC
2020-06-30 21:06
#263
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Poland rude_wredne 
Looks Gucci mens but not sure about that Intel CPU but overall looks sick af
2020-06-30 21:08
gj on buying overpriced dogshit cpu otherwise nice
2020-06-30 21:15
also, have you ever used actually made use of 32gb ram? then why would u buy it?
2020-06-30 21:16
They added 32 for free so why not. Also the GPU is fine. had no problems with it. Handles everything with ez. Full specs: ASUS GeForce RTX 2080 Ti ROG Strix OC Intel Core i9-9900KF + CM Masterliquid ML240L HyperX Fury DDR4 3200MHz 16GB x2 (It's 4 8GB sticks) Corsair TX750M, 750W PSU ASUS ROG Strix Z390-F GAMING, S-1151 2x Kingston A2000 1TB SSD.
2020-06-30 22:13
yeah this is rly good except the cpu is overpriced piece of shit
2020-06-30 22:26
All good exept a 650w or even 550w will be enough. i have the same graphics card and ryzen 3700x and 650w is enough. Also buy liquid aio cooler for cpu instead (for overclocking) ! Otherwise nice build mens)))
2020-06-30 21:37
#274
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Poland rude_wredne 
Mens)) #171 are you sure that enormous fan wont be enough for 3700? I wont be overclocking it Thanks men))
2020-06-30 21:38
will be enough for sure, but liquid aio is both cooler and quieter :) but anyone will do :)
2020-06-30 21:53
#282
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Poland rude_wredne 
Thanks men 🍹😎👌
2020-06-30 22:04
#273
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Poland SebL 
Seems really good.
2020-06-30 21:37
#279
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Algeria HDx77 
2/10 i think potato pc :/
2020-06-30 21:50
Trash pc
2020-07-01 07:19
very nice mens
2020-07-01 07:25
well...I guess it will run cs at 30 fps...not sure about that
2020-07-01 07:25
I meant 1.6 there's no way cs go will even start
2020-07-01 07:26
#301
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Poland rude_wredne 
Mens i was planning to play CS 2d hope it will run smooth
2020-07-01 10:04
this one should work fine!
2020-07-02 22:53
What's the cost?
2020-07-01 07:31
#302
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Poland rude_wredne 
#171 roughly 2k euro with win10, pre build and postage inc
2020-07-01 10:24
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