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White Knights Explain
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United States KinglyFish 
A third of women admit to using men for free food on dates according to anonymous studies. They're human too clearly, they lie and deceive just like men do to get free stuff and an advantage over others. So why do you have such an idealized view of women and constantly defend them no matter what?
2020-06-30 06:22
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#1
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Romania hunden_0_major 
because they hope that by being white knights they will get laid
2020-06-30 06:23
That used to be my first thought too, but after years of white knighting and not getting laid you'd think they'd figure out white knighting doesn't work.
2020-06-30 06:24
Yeah so they are still going through the same phase as you wait a few years lol
2020-06-30 06:25
Bro I never thought white knighting would get me laid. I'm just saying after years of white knighting not working out for them, they'd stop being white knights.
2020-06-30 06:26
#10
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African Union _Hoidd_ 
They have no female friends in real life..This is why they continue to white knight hoping someday some Twitch female streamer will appreciate them. I don't think most of them do it to get laid..They just need appreciation and think these girls are actual friends. Some of the twitch camgirls like Amouranth use these people like crazy. Check this link, hilarious... youtube.com/watch?v=7Z-h4xVwmeQ
2020-06-30 06:39
I think their mentality is getting a girlfriend will fix the problems in their lives when in actuality it just creates more problems and drama. And lots of them are definitely shut ins that just want any kind of attention from women.
2020-06-30 06:45
#23
Magisk | 
United States sephula 
Yeah, I think it is just them wanting recognition from those they are attracted to, not that they necessarily expect to get laid.
2020-06-30 07:13
#80
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Bulgaria ohmeingutness 
if you shut yourself in, you dont want any attention, you have to go with that mentality as a shut-in or stuff wont go well for you
2020-07-01 18:12
A lot of them give off weirdo vibes so they can't make any friends. So it's not like they want to be loners and shut ins.
2020-07-01 20:52
#88
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Bulgaria ohmeingutness 
My point is, if you shut yourself in, you should already accept that you wont get any attention and that you wont get any girls
2020-07-01 20:52
The main issue with these guys is they don't think logically so they're not gonna listen to you. That's why they do the same things with women and never learn. And they want friends even if they're a weirdo with no social skills. They won't even read any books on how to improve themselves.
2020-07-01 20:57
#90
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Bulgaria ohmeingutness 
honestly who tf reads any book to improve himself lol
2020-07-01 20:57
A lot of people man lol. Have you seen the amazon best sellers list for books? Most of them are bullshit and generic. I read books to improve myself, but I only read specific topics I need to know more about like social psychology, evolutionary psychology, sales manuals, etc... Helps you understand people's motivations.
2020-07-01 21:00
#93
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Bulgaria ohmeingutness 
ya gotta understand, some people dont hav motivations xD
2020-07-01 21:03
the cringe... omfg..
2020-07-03 00:34
#9
allu | 
Canada lunchies 
it's funny you think that they'd naturally come to that realization
2020-06-30 06:38
Yeah true some men never change. Especially if they're past 25 and they've been a white knight since their early 20's.
2020-06-30 06:48
how do you know that they dont get laid because of it?
2020-06-30 16:15
Because I have multiple white knight friends who aren't socially awkward.
2020-06-30 21:48
cant conclude from your friends to everyone
2020-06-30 22:05
All the men I know who're good with women don't take them out to dinner lmao.
2020-07-01 17:24
#72
2020-07-01 18:11
I've never heard of any men that were good with women taking them out to dinner.
2020-07-01 20:41
#99
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Lithuania arres 
Yes, then later they become incels. Thats how the metamorphosis works for them lol
2020-07-02 11:09
I think you may be conflating chivalry with more complex issues
2020-06-30 06:33
Lmao chivalry is dead. If you're overly nice to a woman or a traditional gentlemen, she'll just see you as a doormat she can use for free dinner. I know this because I have multiple friends who're basically professional doormats and high end restaurant meal vouchers.
2020-06-30 06:44
Its dependent on who you're dating I suppose Most decent women try to meet you in the middle, if you just met someone and they roll over for you to pay the bill yet they have expensive tastes... red flags you're being taken for a ride Still though, theres nothing wrong with surprising a woman with something nice.. just find out what they like, maybe not flowers those are cliche As someone else said, "simp" is a good word for spending on a woman you have nothing to do with.
2020-06-30 06:51
If I'm buying a woman gifts, I expect her to do the same for me. Women are getting stingier by day. I usually test women I'm dating by buying them a gift randomly or for an occasion like their birthday. Even women I thought were "decent" will usually give me a clearly repackaged gift if I'm lucky and usually nothing. I was cool with this if I knew they were struggling with money, but a lot of these women were well off and still did this.
2020-06-30 06:59
Random gifts isn't it, and the right reason to do it is your own pleasure in somebody enjoying the gift, not currying favor I've seen all of one divorce in my extended family so I have my own idea what works, nobody's buying present sized gifts outside christmas/bday.
2020-06-30 07:06
I should clarify I used to buy random gifts as a test, but nowadays I usually just give a gift for a woman's birthday and see if they reciprocate for mine. Giving random gifts is pretty lame behavior especially for a woman you're just dating.
2020-06-30 07:08
Sure, birthday and christmas gifts are healthy and wholesome. No high expectations, enjoy the gift if you can, and be grateful for it. Expect the same in your other
2020-06-30 07:15
#6
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Europe Vallon3 
It's the wrong and outdated values taught to them by their parents. You know: ''always be a gentleman with women''; ''always look out for them, it's your duty to defend them''. Shit like this needs to die. Ironically, because of current feminism it actually is starting to, due to more and more men waking up and seeing that there's no real reason to treat them any different than another guy. When women start getting treated like actual adults, and not grown up children, is when white knights will disappear.
2020-06-30 06:34
I have friends from old school families that spend 100's of dollars a year taking women out to dinner and buying them flowers. I'm trying to make them understand women these days don't like old school gentlemen.
2020-06-30 06:40
#101
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Lithuania arres 
Ironically, because of current feminism it actually is starting to, due to more and more men waking up and seeing that there's no real reason to treat them any different than another guy. Lmao so true. They really achieve the opposite of what they want
2020-07-02 11:15
#7
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Brazil IsFree 
Cool, I never saw a knight before Would a White Knight let me punch his armor? Im curious about punching armor
2020-06-30 06:34
#30
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Poland rude_wredne 
You'll break your hand men dont do it
2020-06-30 08:48
theyre called simps now, get with the times
2020-06-30 06:35
The fact that there are retired terms to refer to simps just shows how much of a pervasive, long standing issue it is.
2020-06-30 06:47
Respect women.
2020-06-30 06:56
#31
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Poland rude_wredne 
Pussy_lover_woman_hater
2020-06-30 08:48
#102
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Lithuania arres 
Respect all people
2020-07-02 11:16
What is wrong with women getting food in this way as long as you get the p*ssy ? Isn't it how the world has always been working ? (Except for Mother Mary ofc).
2020-06-30 07:01
Things in Poland are probably more straight forward. In America if a man buys a woman he just met a nice dinner she'll just assume he's a doormat and lose attraction. And if you take her somewhere cheap she'll get insulted.
2020-06-30 07:05
Polish women are known to be among the most materialist b*tches ever. And USA as far as I know consist of b*tches from all over the world. So. But I am not quite sure if we discussing the morals of women here or the fact that someone is not getting laid after funding the dinner to a woman. Remember that the thing women love the most are themselves. Try dating asian maybe.
2020-06-30 07:23
The dinners are from my friends experiences btw, I just invite women over to my place. No way I'd waste money on fancy dinners. My friends aren't socially awkward either, American women just see men as desperate if he treats them on the first date.
2020-06-30 15:19
americans are so easy man, no offense.. but they ez bro.. no dates, no money spent... they wow everything.. LOL
2020-06-30 16:08
I think you got the wrong idea. Taking women on dates in America decreases her attraction to you. Buying them nothing is the best way to go.
2020-06-30 16:14
Nope, I got you just fine man. So if you take her out, she will see you making all that effort, trying to buy her pussy out. Solution: she pays, she gives the pussy. cya man
2020-06-30 16:16
women have been enabled to act this way by an increasingly wimp male population
2020-06-30 16:09
Compared to most Europeans, American men aren't wimpy at all. Maybe that's not true compared to Portuguese and Spanish men though.
2020-06-30 16:18
I meant no offense... whatever image you have of us, its not really right, theres a few cuck countries that are a loud minority, the whole eastern and south europe remain preety normal.
2020-06-30 16:21
Yeah that's what I'm saying. Spanish, Portuguese, and probably Italians and Eastern European men are still normal.
2020-06-30 16:22
Yup and like I said, its a loud minority, Nordic countries have normal guys too man and its preety cool but they have been getting all this multi diversity propaganda for like a decade now its sad.
2020-06-30 16:24
#25
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Europe Vallon3 
Because it's basically prostitution? You give her something and she allows you to bang her. You shouldn't have to buy your way into a pussy.
2020-06-30 07:17
So, you should get to bang her without putting in any form of effort? Just show up and bend her over? I mean mate, you aint talking to some Brad Pitts here. Its nerds.
2020-06-30 08:39
+1 It is all insecure hltv virgins we all know and love (figuratively).
2020-06-30 09:48
Think how gray life would be without them <3
2020-06-30 10:03
I think most relatively attractive men can just invite at least some women over and not buy her food or anything.
2020-06-30 15:53
Well it all comes down to who you are. If you got humour, confidence, and some harm, yes. I mean, people wanna make this out to be rocket-sience, which its not. Treat girls like people, and eventually, it will work itself out.
2020-06-30 16:22
Why do simps buy them food on the first date? Let them pay for their own meal.
2020-06-30 08:36
Must be expensive for a knight to maintain his horse I guess that’s why they have stewards I wonder how much that plate armor cost? Anyways I like their swords pretty cool and pointy
2020-06-30 08:38
#34
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Serbia embru 
personally i'm not the fan of their spear thing you know? highly unpractical and I bet it's warm in that plate armour during summer
2020-06-30 10:08
#96
ropz | 
Czech Republic letaldir 
True, steel heats up very fast
2020-07-02 11:01
#35
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Serbia embru 
idk man, most of the dates I've been we split the bill or I would pay for food and she would buy drinks didn't have a problem w that
2020-06-30 10:10
That's honestly how it should be done, you split the bill or you pay for dinner and she pays for drinks.
2020-06-30 15:57
based eastern europe once again
2020-06-30 16:23
#69
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Serbia embru 
thanks
2020-06-30 17:19
#36
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United Kingdom whatacliche 
Because they Queens 😍😍😍 stfu hater 😡😡😡
2020-06-30 10:13
expected from UK
2020-06-30 16:26
bro what an upstanding white knight, knights from all over the world should come to the uk and get their white knight certificate
2020-06-30 16:28
Lmao youtube.com/watch?v=AgGUEV0cTeY The only queens in your country's history btw.
2020-06-30 16:29
#40
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United States girls 
why do people think you can't white knight men tho
2020-06-30 15:58
Because women aren't simping for men in 99.9% of the cases of simping.
2020-06-30 16:19
#60
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United States girls 
men are simping for other men
2020-06-30 16:25
Men have an out-group preference, women have an in-group preference. So if anything women are simping for other women even more.
2020-06-30 16:26
Lmao just split the bill it's 2020
2020-06-30 16:01
incel post alert oh noo women are using us poor men!!!11!!! if you dont wanna pay for someones meal just split the bill, its not so difficult
2020-06-30 16:05
I guess you're not fakeflagging given how you completely missed the point of his post.
2020-06-30 16:12
Lmao you completely missed the point. Read it again.
2020-06-30 16:16
Whats the point? Why dont you explain it to me?
2020-06-30 16:23
They're human too clearly, they lie and deceive just like men do to get free stuff and an advantage over others
2020-06-30 16:23
Exactly, its not even about genders, its about psychology. Are we in agreement? I cant tell.
2020-06-30 16:24
Human nature is human nature. White knights just don't understand this. We're pretty much in agreement I think.
2020-06-30 16:25
Well, i salute you, good sir!
2020-06-30 16:25
lol your post doesnt even have a point its just fucking stupid
2020-06-30 17:02
Lmao
2020-06-30 17:58
#65
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Lebanon Dogman69 
Revvin' up your engine Listen to her howlin' roar Metal under tension Beggin' you to touch and go Highway to the danger zone Ride into the danger zone Headin' into twilight Spreadin' out her wings tonight She got you jumpin' off the track And shovin' into overdrive Highway to the danger zone I'll take you Ridin' into the danger zone
2020-06-30 16:27
your post shows just how trash my weed is compared to yours, can I get the number of your plug?
2020-07-01 17:38
Lol. Imagine paying for your date :D Thats prostitution.
2020-07-01 17:25
if u white knight during the old age people would consider ur a prince but nowadays in 2020 ur just a cuck haha. and yeah thats because nowadays women are worth less than the victorian age women where they are worth more like a princess <3
2020-07-01 17:27
There are good women out there, but you don't know who's just using you for dinner.
2020-07-01 17:28
well i want to think women are different but nowadays.. it seems like i crack the women code and found almost everyone has the same pattern ( have ig , onlyfans and do camgirls things ) also almost every women is shameless nowadays...
2020-07-02 19:02
I wouldn't compare Instagram to OnlyFans tbf. But, if I'm talking to a woman and I find out she doesn't have an Instagram, then I see that as a huge plus.
2020-07-02 19:05
considering its 2020 i highly doubt theres one unless ...
2020-07-02 19:08
It's definitely rare for women not to have Instagram, but you also have to judge on how their instagram is set up and looks like. If it's just normal photos and the account is followers/friends only then I don't really see an issue.
2020-07-03 00:43
#78
gla1ve | 
Denmark flapdur 
Interesting, interesting. So if your underlying point is, that "White Knights" are fools, then what? I think there are 2 situations: Men who pay for drinks to complete strangers - they are the fools, and the girls can play them. And then there is dating, where you have some kind of relationship already. You want to step up that relationship by showing the best side of yourself. I think that´s sort of OK. Both sides are testing the water. Even if you pay for dinner or whatever, she is not obliged to end up in bed or as your GF. But nobody´s playing anyone. I don´t do any of those things. I think most girls in Denmark pay for themselves. And I don´t think they respect strangers who offers drinks. Some girls I studied with sometimes went to town with the goal of partying the whole night without paying for drinks. It was a sport for them, and they would dare each other to "fake flirt". They were not looking for someone to go home with, but now and then it would still happen.
2020-07-01 17:43
Obviously if it's someone you know, then you can take them out to dinner or whatever. But, a lot of these men are taking women out to fancy restaurants for a first date to impress them. Many of those women are going into the date intending to just use this man for a fancy dinner, and when she never calls again inevitably he always thinks he did something wrong.
2020-07-01 20:51
#94
gla1ve | 
Denmark flapdur 
I don´t have enough experience with dating to discuss this. Too small sample size. Never felt used and also always had a pretty clear idea after the date, if any real chemistry was there. And in most cases we each paid our share anyway, as is fairly common in Denmark. I just set things up, got tickets to the show etc. I think the concept of the man paying for everything goes back to a time, when men were the earners and the only ones with money. And used the date to demonstrate his skills as "provider". Paying for a single drink to break the ice/establish contact in a Pub or somewhere - I think it´s fairly accepted today, because of "supply and demand" - there tend to be more men than women in most bars etc. (Which is also why many Clubs have free admission for women, and bouncers will turn down more men). I never used that way to meet women and never bought a drink to an unknown girl.
2020-07-02 10:41
Scandinavia is actually egalitarian. In America, women still want the man to pay for dinner in many cases. I'd never buy women drinks at a bar tbh. And I definitely wouldn't go to a club, it's impossible to talk to anyone there.
2020-07-03 00:39
We agree
2020-07-03 08:57
White Knights ? Sounds like racism
2020-07-01 18:12
#98
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Norway mustafa2006 
cant use black knight because people would mix it up with the cool fortnite skin
2020-07-02 11:08
You are absolutely right. Men and women are the same what comes to most parts of behaviour. Some sociologists even claim that gender is a social construct = we learn to be women or men. I think the problem that people fail to see is that there are double standards and discrimination in societies. I can give you examples if you want. If there is an argument about feminism and theres a man taking the same side as a woman theres always some jerk starting to scream "white knight". And the conversation stops there. There is no group of people who are white knights. Its just a oversimplified stereotype which is used by simpletons to piss all over a conversation they had no idea in the begin with.
2020-07-01 18:35
Lots of people definitely overuse the term White Knight and simp. Honestly, if someone is extremely nice and understanding to everyone, including women, then I don't think he's a white knight although people will call him one. I think men and women are way more similar than they think. The only real differences are from evolutionary pressures that only cause slight differences.
2020-07-01 20:48
Agree.
2020-07-02 13:47
#95
gla1ve | 
Denmark flapdur 
Good post :o)
2020-07-02 10:42
Ty man.
2020-07-02 13:48
About 5 years ago I went on a double date with a friend of mine, long story short we asked for the bill, I payed for myself and my friend (I owed him) the 2 girls got mad angry at us for not paying for their food, saying we're chauvinistic and shit. They started to yell and demand that we pay, the owner of the restaurant came, we explained ourselves, biggest gever 😎 I've ever seen. Called the cops on them and blacklisted them from his place. Been going since, every month, even worked there for a few months.
2020-07-01 20:52
chauvinistic for making them pay for their own food lmao.
2020-07-01 21:01
#97
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Lithuania arres 
Because men want to have sex with them and some of the strategies to get that are pathetic to others
2020-07-02 11:07
Imagine the kind of person who got up this morning and thought "this is the most important issue right now, I have to make a thread on hltv and get the guys who go on dates to explain themselves "
2020-07-02 11:11
It's HLTV over 90% of the threads aren't talking about an "important issue". And saving guys 100's of dollars a year by telling them going on dates rarely works is not important?
2020-07-02 18:31
Your parents dated. and while it did turn out disastrous, it often ends well
2020-07-02 19:53
I think it turned out disastrously for your parents considering you're being this rude to someone who has a different opinion.
2020-07-03 00:30
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