Forum thread: leaf cheat or not

Leaf aint cheating brazilians are delusional as always

2020-06-30 19:59

leaf only cheat against Brasil because he doesn't like us

2020-06-30 19:59

"Us"

2020-06-30 20:02

That's what I said

2020-06-30 20:04

Brazil=United States hltv confirmed

2020-06-30 21:35

But you are from china ?

2020-06-30 20:03

Ethnically yes

2020-06-30 20:04

nt fake flagger

2020-06-30 21:41

2020-06-30 20:04

he had suspicious plays against canadians too, so...

2020-06-30 20:35

Nope

2020-07-01 19:16

It can't be proven beyond a reasonable doubt. INNOCENT.

2020-06-30 20:00

innocent from illuminar?

2020-06-30 23:17

his name checks out

2020-06-30 20:01

100% hacks

2020-06-30 20:01

+1, maybe if one day he cheats against european teams they realize

2020-07-01 00:18

youtube.com/watch?v=PIxmavU9t7o

2020-07-01 03:44

weird as fuck too bro, I wouldn't be surprised if he was cheating in that game, but leaf plays are 5x more weird and he has more clips. I mean, I got that pros have a lot of game sense and they look to places to hear things and they now every single possible spot but, the clips from leaf that I think suspicious is when he is shooting and then the aimlock happens.

2020-07-01 04:03

damn, didnt know every single pro is cheating (except mibr ofc since ur all crybabys). almost every pro has a past were it looked like they was cheating... ropz had the same shits said to him, did he cheat? no. --> leaf does not cheat.

2020-07-01 16:39

crybabys with 2 majors, norway?? Anyway... all pros have fishy clips bc they have a lot of game sense, but leaf has a lot in a short period and they are veryyyyyy weird. I mean, we don't say this because we lost, mibr is losing to anyone and we already conquered a lot. I say that bc i don't want cheaters in the scene and I truly believe he is cheating.

2020-07-01 16:41

you will prob never call anyone else out for cheating since u have got backlash from it, so yall will push the one "cheater" u have now. its just sad to see the false accusations.

2020-07-04 12:55

> False accusations > have eyes Pick one

2020-07-04 19:49

you realize the enemy isnt even rendered? hes literally could not be aimlocking on that player because his client hasnt gotten info that hes there.

2020-07-01 06:17

ive never seen a less suspicious clip tbh, his team mates are rushing to the site so hes holding kitchen, wtf is he meant to do there it doesnt look like he has any hacks here imo

2020-06-30 20:02

Sometimes im really surprised how blind people are. The point of this clip is not that he holds window, but what he does with his crosshair right after the kill.

2020-06-30 20:07

#13

2020-06-30 20:10

mk but he doesnt even lock to the guys head.

2020-06-30 20:37

do it need to lock to his head? do you understand that he can set up to doesnt????? the aim lock can be set up to you crosshair make different movements and one of them is not precisely locking directly on the body or in the head, all you need is using it to get info or to helping you as an aim assistance..

2020-07-01 00:08

Ur english is bad go away uneducated brainlet

2020-07-01 01:24

How long have you played cs? He is adjusting his crosshair right away if an enemy should come around the corner, it just coincidently lines up with a guy in ct spawn. You are bad.

2020-07-01 16:35

coincidently just like in his others thousands of clips? i've been playing cs since 1.6, im 101% sure i understand more than cheats and CS than you LoL

2020-07-01 19:14

Well, I've been playing since 1.3. But you sure know it all :P "1000 clips". It's like 4-5 not very suspicious clips. Funny thing is you brazillian guys are yelling so loud right now but where were you exactly when the same claims where made on coldzera or your beloved fallen? God damn sheeps.

2020-07-01 19:25

I mean, ofcourse it happens with others, but you know it's RARE and will happen a max of 1 or 2 times in a match or it wont happen, the most correct is not to happen...now compare to leaf? rewatch and watch someone else PRO POV and compare to him? theres no explanation.. ill give you an example, when i got banned for "cheating" here in some platform in brazil called gamersclub I filled out a ban review report and i got unbanned right after, I watched all the last 10 games played and the aimlock thing happened only ONE time, im pretty sure they banned me cuz of that, like 70%+ sure cuz of 1 round in 10 matches and theres was nothing else, it's just an example...and leaf's clips keeps showing up, theres alot for only a few games played

2020-07-01 19:54

"thousands of clips" its like 4 or 5. Any player has a few clips like that.

2020-07-01 20:51

There's nothing suspicious, the CT is jungle, he wouldn't have been loaded on leaf's client from bench

2020-06-30 23:59

no. The enemy was to far for wh to catch it

2020-06-30 20:04

2020-06-30 20:06

-1, the enemy seems to cross the crosshair right on the place where is this small window to window room, and at certain point there is only a thin wall between the crosshair and enemy. I am not tested it, but im 98% sure the enemy is visible there at least at small time.

2020-06-30 20:13

And I am 98% sure this one would be the same as this youtube.com/watch?v=ZSQThiuOzSg

2020-06-30 20:16

Damn thats insane

2020-06-30 20:46

Youre wrong, btw even in that inf clip it may be actually possible to aimhack to detect the playter ther, that guy doesnt know how hacks works.

2020-06-30 21:20

then how about you explain it Mr. Hack Savant. Players aren't rendered there. Aimhack can't detect them if they aren't rendered. Stop being stupid and accept when you're wrong.

2020-06-30 23:16

mr hack savant lmao I think in theory hacks could leech the information from teammate's client, but I wonder how it is likely that this is what happened on inferno clip. Oh and even if that is the case, this clip in mirage here is clean since his teammates were nowhere near the enemy so no render on their client either. I wonder if there are any other ways for hack to work.

2020-06-30 23:57

They can't

2020-06-30 23:59

why?

2020-07-01 00:00

Cause it's between their client and the server

2020-07-01 00:01

No shit. Did you even read what I wrote?

2020-07-01 00:02

You said it could leech info from the teammate's client, it can't because that information isn't available to them

2020-07-01 00:03

so you mean it is impossible to set up a software that transfers information between two computers?

2020-07-01 01:04

lol so what you're implying is a scenario where the teammates cheat and then send that info to the other clients? that wouldn't even be accurate due to latency

2020-07-01 03:40

and how the fuck are you gonna send that exactly cause you cant send it through the server

2020-07-01 03:40

assuming a range, what happens if the guys shoot, his position is leaked?

2020-07-01 03:47

the client itself isnt rendered so an aimbot wouldnt do anything, an esp could give a rough location off the location of the sound but thats it

2020-07-01 03:49

ok, but the client not rendering is one thing, the question is if the client know the player position or can calculate. one example: if(p.distance > 10 || p.isNotInSight){ doNotRender(); }

2020-07-01 04:00

The client can't know the position, it's sent by the server, but the client would know for example the throwing location of a grenade, which an ESP could give info for, but an aimbot would not react to it

2020-07-01 04:01

mr bauer, you have 24 hours to stop leaf from hacking. If you fail, the world will explode. Tick tock tick tock

2020-06-30 23:55

in these 24 hours jack bauer never goes to the bathroom, the man is a robot, i envy this lucky guy

2020-07-01 01:19

The funny things is, I'm 100% sure I would do the exact same flick into the site, as a natural reaction. The fact that he doesn't even notice there's a guy behind that pillar says it all: he's not cheating.

2020-07-01 19:29

did you use it to know how work??? some especialists here say the aim lock in the player more close to you, if the more close to you is far away, the aim you lock far away. and the guy who the aim locked was the most close to leaf in that moment.

2020-06-30 20:49

check #21 stoopid. Btw yeah, I cheated when I was a kid for a couple of days out of interest in the old 1.6 days. Will you send me the death threats now?

2020-06-30 23:44

fuck off with this retarded topic Brazilians. mibr is washed

2020-06-30 20:05

Mibr is washed. Leaf is cheating

2020-06-30 20:14

you are by far dumber than most people saying leaf cheats

2020-06-30 20:36

egypt?

2020-06-30 21:24

ok InvalidUsername's alt

2020-06-30 21:25

again, egypt? Come on bro, back to land without water

2020-06-30 21:27

??????????????????????????lmao what are you on about

2020-06-30 21:30

no scene, idol thorin, cmon bro, back to your sand

2020-06-30 21:33

? what does scene haev to do with anything you scene is washed as fuck and holding on to the past with the SK flair lmao. still amazing how you overlook the rest of my country but okay thank you for the great addition to the conversation you got me good

2020-06-30 21:38

don't cry bro, just a joke. Now, back to your sand, bye.

2020-06-30 21:39

thanks for the addition you got me good lmao go cry more about your dead scene and keep holding onto SK

2020-06-30 21:41

"back to your sand, bye" Nothing to see here. "back to your favela, bye" This racism and xenophobia has gone too far, Brazilians are being abused for absolutely no reason.

2020-06-30 23:20

Yeah, they really don't see it. I'm not in for people calling others monkeys or whatever, but man these brazillians just can't see why people would hate on them.

2020-07-01 19:32

lmfao brazil is fr one of the worst countries on this planet I wouldn't be talking if I were you.

2020-06-30 23:50

Pretty simple, If you don't like it, don't come. Ain't that easy?

2020-07-01 00:23

never went and probably never will ty.

2020-07-01 05:10

Brazil thanks you

2020-07-01 16:08

youtube.com/watch?v=PIxmavU9t7o

2020-07-01 03:44

where is the unusual part?

2020-06-30 20:12

aimlock after killing the first enemy cuz he had pressed the bind already to kill the first one

2020-06-30 21:30

The enemy wouldn't be rendered on his client

2020-07-01 00:02

a hack could still use other methods to track positions.

2020-07-01 19:31

Such as?

2020-07-02 07:04

if the game worked only client sided, this would be an offline single player game. i thinks thats enough explanation.

2020-07-02 16:36

Holy shit you're dumb, you can't take server side info as it's server sided, only what the server sends to your client (which makes it client side)

2020-07-03 00:25

rofl you have clearly no idea how a server-client comunication works kid. server side hacks interceping packets has been a thing over the last two decades. LMAO

2020-07-03 06:11

If you had access to the server you could do a lot fucking more than just intercepting player locations lmao

2020-07-04 09:04

omg lamer, stop embarassing urself

2020-07-06 15:44

What is wrong?

2020-06-30 20:19

what is that clip lul

2020-06-30 20:38

Holding window was good, he had the site so he called it out. After kill idk, could be from recoil so he tried correcting and pointed up coincidentally at the next guy's head idk. I don't think it's too bad or sus

2020-06-30 20:54

His crosshair goes up because he stood up. There is lag on the demo everytime he crouched then stands.

2020-06-30 21:37

Holy hell, finally someone with a brain in these threads. Demos are terrible for deciding if someone is cheating because they are 32 tick. There is no way to tell what is really happening and the lag is horrendous

2020-06-30 23:50

I thought this was live, anyways Demos can be any tickrate, MM demos are 32 tick

2020-07-01 00:02

if someone thinks this is cheating they are delusional. who doesn't check kitchen window lmao

2020-06-30 21:42

It's the crosshair movement, dummy

2020-06-30 21:46

You are delusional. Do u want to see the clip again? Watch their crosshair after the kill. 100% cheat.

2020-06-30 21:49

He went from crouching to standing. There is lag in the demo whenever someone does it. OMFG mystery solved.

2020-06-30 22:52

With a little concidence. He put their crosshair right in the head through the wall. Just like overpass monster clip. A lot of concidences.

2020-06-30 23:09

Please shut the fuck up MG if you don't know how the game works

2020-07-01 00:03

His gun would've moved up if it was aimlock. Instead his whole body moved. Give your head a shake, shake the stupid off

2020-07-01 03:10

watch it on 0.25 speed, his aim will lock on the second player's head

2020-06-30 23:14

Try speed down Guardian or KennyS AWPing, you can even see they point at the man

2020-06-30 23:54

does it LOCK on their heads/bodies? and, if i gather all their suspicious clips, all over their careers, will it be as numerous as leaf on 2 md3? i mean, with those 3, there should be enough taking the longevity of their careers, right? or at least as fishy as leaf's clips are: on monster and b bomb to heaven (overpass), balcony (inferno) or this new one on mirage with the canadian team? well, whatever

2020-07-01 00:47

Yeah whatever, if what Leaf did is cause for concern then you must be paranoid

2020-07-01 00:53

omegalul ok then bro

2020-07-01 01:01

hmmm I just saw a bit of them play, it actually felt a bit suspicious.. always perfect positioning and perfect nades I have never seen them play before ROFL, but the clips that are circulating happens very often to everyone Who knows, maybe they do maybe they dont

2020-07-01 03:02

As Tarik said "I never understood how that kind of stuff happens so regularly for some people"

2020-07-01 03:19

100% forsaken

2020-06-30 23:18

youtube.com/watch?v=PIxmavU9t7o

2020-07-01 03:43

FALLEN = leaf = forsaken

2020-07-01 06:03

what part of this is supposed to be fishy at all?

2020-06-30 23:22

After the first kill he put his crosshair on the 2nd player's head through the wall.

2020-07-01 00:03

Another one that doesnt understand how aim hacks work.

2020-06-30 23:45

obv cheating

2020-06-30 23:45

youtube.com/watch?v=PIxmavU9t7o

2020-07-01 03:43

He just did it against Mibr and now he lost his confidence and maybe is cheating again

2020-06-30 23:46

What a shit quality video.. here a better one clips.twitch.tv/ArbitraryPoisedEchidnaBC..

2020-06-30 23:50

bra71l tweet again grow up already

2020-07-01 00:00

hello pipiras

2020-07-01 01:26

hello bra71l

2020-07-01 01:27

Man, are you a silver?

2020-06-30 23:52

In this clip like 98% no

2020-06-30 23:54

As apostas na chaos contra a mibr aumentaram muito quando estava 3x0 para a mibr ou seja, o dono da chaos e afins apostaram muito dinheiro na chaos nas casas de apostas, pq ele tava xitado porraaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

2020-06-30 23:56

this guy could be forsaken and ppl will say hes not cheating, just for the fact that ppl wanna trigger brazilians.

2020-06-30 23:56

2020-07-02 11:14

yes

2020-06-30 23:56

Do you even lift your mouse, bruh?

2020-06-30 23:59

they say leaf is not cheaeting. so who is cheating?

2020-07-01 00:00

"not"

2020-07-01 00:01

I can put my dick to cut that he is cheating. It's been too many "coincidences" now

2020-07-01 00:02

2020-07-01 00:03

95% cheating.

2020-07-01 00:09

youtube.com/watch?v=PIxmavU9t7o

2020-07-01 03:43

Trying to justfy cheating with another cheater.

2020-07-01 03:44

i dont see shiet in this clip

2020-07-01 00:13

Can't say 100% that he cheated but he is suspicious to me, tho the backlash was nuts

2020-07-01 00:51

theres nothing lol

2020-07-01 00:52

Calm down jermans

2020-07-01 00:53

Leaf 100% legit like flusha Nt fake flagger

2020-07-01 01:10

flairs aside, the guy is the biggest cheater out there, hope he gets caught on lan. I heard his older brother (f0rsarken) is proud af.

2020-07-01 01:30

youtube.com/watch?v=PIxmavU9t7o

2020-07-01 03:42

static.hltv.org/images/team/logo/6667

2020-07-01 04:50

I was offline for 3 months. What happened to Astralis?

2020-07-01 03:05

two astralis members sex assaulted a girl. Fer get vac ban Leaf joins mibr

2020-07-01 03:11

16 years old and has more aimlock clips then flusha lol

2020-07-01 03:14

flag checkouts

2020-07-01 03:41

"other"

2020-07-01 03:59

leaf is not cheating he is good as fuck noobs

2020-07-01 03:42

😳 maybe... vanity told him that C0M was there 😳

2020-07-01 03:49

and he can see him on the mini-map

2020-07-01 16:40

holy fuck brasilians are so stupid

2020-07-01 06:18

2020-07-01 16:41

So if s1mple plays like this then s1mple is a cheater too? BR brain

2020-07-01 16:42

Too many of those in a short time, yes there's app behind those connectings. I'm just wondering why he continues using that.

2020-07-01 19:29

Imo it's clear and obvious that there's aim assist.

2020-07-01 19:36

Leaf no cheater Brazil just mad MiBR loss to him and then when mens call them out for toxic and sending death threat they say well mens be mean on hltv and twitter ...

2020-07-01 19:35