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leaf cheat or not
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Germany Verfassungsschutz 
twitter.com/MemesMIBR/status/12777648201.. what do you think about this clip?
2020-06-30 19:58
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Leaf aint cheating brazilians are delusional as always
2020-06-30 19:59
leaf only cheat against Brasil because he doesn't like us
2020-06-30 19:59
"Us"
2020-06-30 20:02
That's what I said
2020-06-30 20:04
#38
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Canada LARRATT 
Brazil=United States hltv confirmed
2020-06-30 21:35
But you are from china ?
2020-06-30 20:03
Ethnically yes
2020-06-30 20:04
#44
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Portugal DeviphZ 
nt fake flagger
2020-06-30 21:41
+1
2020-06-30 20:04
he had suspicious plays against canadians too, so...
2020-06-30 20:35
Nope
2020-07-01 19:16
It can't be proven beyond a reasonable doubt. INNOCENT.
2020-06-30 20:00
#55
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Poland Moderee 
innocent from illuminar?
2020-06-30 23:17
#5
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Europe BIG_BIGFAN 
his name checks out
2020-06-30 20:01
100% hacks
2020-06-30 20:01
+1, maybe if one day he cheats against european teams they realize
2020-07-01 00:18
#124
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Norway Olemannen 
2020-07-01 03:44
weird as fuck too bro, I wouldn't be surprised if he was cheating in that game, but leaf plays are 5x more weird and he has more clips. I mean, I got that pros have a lot of game sense and they look to places to hear things and they now every single possible spot but, the clips from leaf that I think suspicious is when he is shooting and then the aimlock happens.
2020-07-01 04:03
damn, didnt know every single pro is cheating (except mibr ofc since ur all crybabys). almost every pro has a past were it looked like they was cheating... ropz had the same shits said to him, did he cheat? no. --> leaf does not cheat.
2020-07-01 16:39
crybabys with 2 majors, norway?? Anyway... all pros have fishy clips bc they have a lot of game sense, but leaf has a lot in a short period and they are veryyyyyy weird. I mean, we don't say this because we lost, mibr is losing to anyone and we already conquered a lot. I say that bc i don't want cheaters in the scene and I truly believe he is cheating.
2020-07-01 16:41
you will prob never call anyone else out for cheating since u have got backlash from it, so yall will push the one "cheater" u have now. its just sad to see the false accusations.
2020-07-04 12:55
> False accusations > have eyes Pick one
2020-07-04 19:49
#135
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United States yghj 
you realize the enemy isnt even rendered? hes literally could not be aimlocking on that player because his client hasnt gotten info that hes there.
2020-07-01 06:17
ive never seen a less suspicious clip tbh, his team mates are rushing to the site so hes holding kitchen, wtf is he meant to do there it doesnt look like he has any hacks here imo
2020-06-30 20:02
Sometimes im really surprised how blind people are. The point of this clip is not that he holds window, but what he does with his crosshair right after the kill.
2020-06-30 20:07
#17
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Lithuania arres 
#13
2020-06-30 20:10
#25
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United States xxpowmanxx 
mk but he doesnt even lock to the guys head.
2020-06-30 20:37
do it need to lock to his head? do you understand that he can set up to doesnt????? the aim lock can be set up to you crosshair make different movements and one of them is not precisely locking directly on the body or in the head, all you need is using it to get info or to helping you as an aim assistance..
2020-07-01 00:08
Ur english is bad go away uneducated brainlet
2020-07-01 01:24
How long have you played cs? He is adjusting his crosshair right away if an enemy should come around the corner, it just coincidently lines up with a guy in ct spawn. You are bad.
2020-07-01 16:35
coincidently just like in his others thousands of clips? i've been playing cs since 1.6, im 101% sure i understand more than cheats and CS than you LoL
2020-07-01 19:14
Well, I've been playing since 1.3. But you sure know it all :P "1000 clips". It's like 4-5 not very suspicious clips. Funny thing is you brazillian guys are yelling so loud right now but where were you exactly when the same claims where made on coldzera or your beloved fallen? God damn sheeps.
2020-07-01 19:25
I mean, ofcourse it happens with others, but you know it's RARE and will happen a max of 1 or 2 times in a match or it wont happen, the most correct is not to happen...now compare to leaf? rewatch and watch someone else PRO POV and compare to him? theres no explanation.. ill give you an example, when i got banned for "cheating" here in some platform in brazil called gamersclub I filled out a ban review report and i got unbanned right after, I watched all the last 10 games played and the aimlock thing happened only ONE time, im pretty sure they banned me cuz of that, like 70%+ sure cuz of 1 round in 10 matches and theres was nothing else, it's just an example...and leaf's clips keeps showing up, theres alot for only a few games played
2020-07-01 19:54
#155
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United States xxpowmanxx 
"thousands of clips" its like 4 or 5. Any player has a few clips like that.
2020-07-01 20:51
There's nothing suspicious, the CT is jungle, he wouldn't have been loaded on leaf's client from bench
2020-06-30 23:59
#13
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Lithuania arres 
no. The enemy was to far for wh to catch it
2020-06-30 20:04
#15
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Estonia qoznyyy 
+1
2020-06-30 20:06
-1, the enemy seems to cross the crosshair right on the place where is this small window to window room, and at certain point there is only a thin wall between the crosshair and enemy. I am not tested it, but im 98% sure the enemy is visible there at least at small time.
2020-06-30 20:13
#21
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Lithuania arres 
And I am 98% sure this one would be the same as this youtube.com/watch?v=ZSQThiuOzSg
2020-06-30 20:16
Damn thats insane
2020-06-30 20:46
Youre wrong, btw even in that inf clip it may be actually possible to aimhack to detect the playter ther, that guy doesnt know how hacks works.
2020-06-30 21:20
#54
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Canada gatssbyy 
then how about you explain it Mr. Hack Savant. Players aren't rendered there. Aimhack can't detect them if they aren't rendered. Stop being stupid and accept when you're wrong.
2020-06-30 23:16
#63
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Lithuania arres 
mr hack savant lmao I think in theory hacks could leech the information from teammate's client, but I wonder how it is likely that this is what happened on inferno clip. Oh and even if that is the case, this clip in mirage here is clean since his teammates were nowhere near the enemy so no render on their client either. I wonder if there are any other ways for hack to work.
2020-06-30 23:57
They can't
2020-06-30 23:59
#78
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Lithuania arres 
why?
2020-07-01 00:00
Cause it's between their client and the server
2020-07-01 00:01
#84
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Lithuania arres 
No shit. Did you even read what I wrote?
2020-07-01 00:02
You said it could leech info from the teammate's client, it can't because that information isn't available to them
2020-07-01 00:03
#101
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Lithuania arres 
so you mean it is impossible to set up a software that transfers information between two computers?
2020-07-01 01:04
lol so what you're implying is a scenario where the teammates cheat and then send that info to the other clients? that wouldn't even be accurate due to latency
2020-07-01 03:40
and how the fuck are you gonna send that exactly cause you cant send it through the server
2020-07-01 03:40
#125
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Brazil ftf123 
assuming a range, what happens if the guys shoot, his position is leaked?
2020-07-01 03:47
the client itself isnt rendered so an aimbot wouldnt do anything, an esp could give a rough location off the location of the sound but thats it
2020-07-01 03:49
#129
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Brazil ftf123 
ok, but the client not rendering is one thing, the question is if the client know the player position or can calculate. one example: if(p.distance > 10 || p.isNotInSight){ doNotRender(); }
2020-07-01 04:00
The client can't know the position, it's sent by the server, but the client would know for example the throwing location of a grenade, which an ESP could give info for, but an aimbot would not react to it
2020-07-01 04:01
#71
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Lithuania arres 
mr bauer, you have 24 hours to stop leaf from hacking. If you fail, the world will explode. Tick tock tick tock
2020-06-30 23:55
in these 24 hours jack bauer never goes to the bathroom, the man is a robot, i envy this lucky guy
2020-07-01 01:19
The funny things is, I'm 100% sure I would do the exact same flick into the site, as a natural reaction. The fact that he doesn't even notice there's a guy behind that pillar says it all: he's not cheating.
2020-07-01 19:29
#28
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Brazil VoxLibertatis 
did you use it to know how work??? some especialists here say the aim lock in the player more close to you, if the more close to you is far away, the aim you lock far away. and the guy who the aim locked was the most close to leaf in that moment.
2020-06-30 20:49
#59
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Lithuania arres 
check #21 stoopid. Btw yeah, I cheated when I was a kid for a couple of days out of interest in the old 1.6 days. Will you send me the death threats now?
2020-06-30 23:44
fuck off with this retarded topic Brazilians. mibr is washed
2020-06-30 20:05
Mibr is washed. Leaf is cheating
2020-06-30 20:14
you are by far dumber than most people saying leaf cheats
2020-06-30 20:36
#32
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Brazil r0ccky 
egypt?
2020-06-30 21:24
ok InvalidUsername's alt
2020-06-30 21:25
#34
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Brazil r0ccky 
again, egypt? Come on bro, back to land without water
2020-06-30 21:27
??????????????????????????lmao what are you on about
2020-06-30 21:30
#37
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Brazil r0ccky 
no scene, idol thorin, cmon bro, back to your sand
2020-06-30 21:33
? what does scene haev to do with anything you scene is washed as fuck and holding on to the past with the SK flair lmao. still amazing how you overlook the rest of my country but okay thank you for the great addition to the conversation you got me good
2020-06-30 21:38
#42
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Brazil r0ccky 
don't cry bro, just a joke. Now, back to your sand, bye.
2020-06-30 21:39
thanks for the addition you got me good lmao go cry more about your dead scene and keep holding onto SK
2020-06-30 21:41
"back to your sand, bye" Nothing to see here. "back to your favela, bye" This racism and xenophobia has gone too far, Brazilians are being abused for absolutely no reason.
2020-06-30 23:20
Yeah, they really don't see it. I'm not in for people calling others monkeys or whatever, but man these brazillians just can't see why people would hate on them.
2020-07-01 19:32
#65
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United States fowlyz 
lmfao brazil is fr one of the worst countries on this planet I wouldn't be talking if I were you.
2020-06-30 23:50
Pretty simple, If you don't like it, don't come. Ain't that easy?
2020-07-01 00:23
#133
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United States fowlyz 
never went and probably never will ty.
2020-07-01 05:10
Brazil thanks you
2020-07-01 16:08
#122
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Norway Olemannen 
2020-07-01 03:44
#18
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Canada JC_123 
where is the unusual part?
2020-06-30 20:12
#36
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Luxembourg Triplefeca 
aimlock after killing the first enemy cuz he had pressed the bind already to kill the first one
2020-06-30 21:30
The enemy wouldn't be rendered on his client
2020-07-01 00:02
a hack could still use other methods to track positions.
2020-07-01 19:31
Such as?
2020-07-02 07:04
if the game worked only client sided, this would be an offline single player game. i thinks thats enough explanation.
2020-07-02 16:36
Holy shit you're dumb, you can't take server side info as it's server sided, only what the server sends to your client (which makes it client side)
2020-07-03 00:25
rofl you have clearly no idea how a server-client comunication works kid. server side hacks interceping packets has been a thing over the last two decades. LMAO
2020-07-03 06:11
If you had access to the server you could do a lot fucking more than just intercepting player locations lmao
2020-07-04 09:04
omg lamer, stop embarassing urself
2020-07-06 15:44
What is wrong?
2020-06-30 20:19
what is that clip lul
2020-06-30 20:38
#29
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South Africa @FyreCS 
Holding window was good, he had the site so he called it out. After kill idk, could be from recoil so he tried correcting and pointed up coincidentally at the next guy's head idk. I don't think it's too bad or sus
2020-06-30 20:54
#39
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Canada mtessari44 
His crosshair goes up because he stood up. There is lag on the demo everytime he crouched then stands.
2020-06-30 21:37
#66
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United States omaega 
Holy hell, finally someone with a brain in these threads. Demos are terrible for deciding if someone is cheating because they are 32 tick. There is no way to tell what is really happening and the lag is horrendous
2020-06-30 23:50
I thought this was live, anyways Demos can be any tickrate, MM demos are 32 tick
2020-07-01 00:02
#45
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Lithuania SeNSeO 
if someone thinks this is cheating they are delusional. who doesn't check kitchen window lmao
2020-06-30 21:42
It's the crosshair movement, dummy
2020-06-30 21:46
#48
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Argentina Jagr929 
You are delusional. Do u want to see the clip again? Watch their crosshair after the kill. 100% cheat.
2020-06-30 21:49
#49
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Canada mtessari44 
He went from crouching to standing. There is lag in the demo whenever someone does it. OMFG mystery solved.
2020-06-30 22:52
#51
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Argentina Jagr929 
With a little concidence. He put their crosshair right in the head through the wall. Just like overpass monster clip. A lot of concidences.
2020-06-30 23:09
Please shut the fuck up MG if you don't know how the game works
2020-07-01 00:03
#110
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Canada mtessari44 
His gun would've moved up if it was aimlock. Instead his whole body moved. Give your head a shake, shake the stupid off
2020-07-01 03:10
#53
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Brazil skars1 
watch it on 0.25 speed, his aim will lock on the second player's head
2020-06-30 23:14
Try speed down Guardian or KennyS AWPing, you can even see they point at the man
2020-06-30 23:54
#95
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Brazil skars1 
does it LOCK on their heads/bodies? and, if i gather all their suspicious clips, all over their careers, will it be as numerous as leaf on 2 md3? i mean, with those 3, there should be enough taking the longevity of their careers, right? or at least as fishy as leaf's clips are: on monster and b bomb to heaven (overpass), balcony (inferno) or this new one on mirage with the canadian team? well, whatever
2020-07-01 00:47
Yeah whatever, if what Leaf did is cause for concern then you must be paranoid
2020-07-01 00:53
#100
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Brazil skars1 
omegalul ok then bro
2020-07-01 01:01
hmmm I just saw a bit of them play, it actually felt a bit suspicious.. always perfect positioning and perfect nades I have never seen them play before ROFL, but the clips that are circulating happens very often to everyone Who knows, maybe they do maybe they dont
2020-07-01 03:02
#113
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South America BalaNaKara 
As Tarik said "I never understood how that kind of stuff happens so regularly for some people"
2020-07-01 03:19
100% forsaken
2020-06-30 23:18
#121
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Norway Olemannen 
2020-07-01 03:43
FALLEN = leaf = forsaken
2020-07-01 06:03
#58
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Hungary subzera 
what part of this is supposed to be fishy at all?
2020-06-30 23:22
#86
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France Wvimis 
After the first kill he put his crosshair on the 2nd player's head through the wall.
2020-07-01 00:03
#60
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Slovakia Moisty_legend 
Another one that doesnt understand how aim hacks work.
2020-06-30 23:45
#61
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Brazil Luiz664 
obv cheating
2020-06-30 23:45
#120
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Norway Olemannen 
2020-07-01 03:43
He just did it against Mibr and now he lost his confidence and maybe is cheating again
2020-06-30 23:46
What a shit quality video.. here a better one clips.twitch.tv/ArbitraryPoisedEchidnaBC..
2020-06-30 23:50
bra71l tweet again grow up already
2020-07-01 00:00
hello pipiras
2020-07-01 01:26
hello bra71l
2020-07-01 01:27
Man, are you a silver?
2020-06-30 23:52
In this clip like 98% no
2020-06-30 23:54
As apostas na chaos contra a mibr aumentaram muito quando estava 3x0 para a mibr ou seja, o dono da chaos e afins apostaram muito dinheiro na chaos nas casas de apostas, pq ele tava xitado porraaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa
2020-06-30 23:56
this guy could be forsaken and ppl will say hes not cheating, just for the fact that ppl wanna trigger brazilians.
2020-06-30 23:56
#157
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Greece noFNXnoMajor 
+1
2020-07-02 11:14
#74
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Portugal cristomas74 
yes
2020-06-30 23:56
Do you even lift your mouse, bruh?
2020-06-30 23:59
they say leaf is not cheaeting. so who is cheating?
2020-07-01 00:00
#81
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Netherlands OGProtiny 
"not"
2020-07-01 00:01
#83
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France Wvimis 
I can put my dick to cut that he is cheating. It's been too many "coincidences" now
2020-07-01 00:02
#89
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Russia Boomboar 
no
2020-07-01 00:03
95% cheating.
2020-07-01 00:09
#119
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Norway Olemannen 
2020-07-01 03:43
Trying to justfy cheating with another cheater.
2020-07-01 03:44
i dont see shiet in this clip
2020-07-01 00:13
#96
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Croatia KrenZZie 
Can't say 100% that he cheated but he is suspicious to me, tho the backlash was nuts
2020-07-01 00:51
theres nothing lol
2020-07-01 00:52
Calm down jermans
2020-07-01 00:53
#102
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France Lili___ 
Leaf 100% legit like flusha Nt fake flagger
2020-07-01 01:10
flairs aside, the guy is the biggest cheater out there, hope he gets caught on lan. I heard his older brother (f0rsarken) is proud af.
2020-07-01 01:30
I was offline for 3 months. What happened to Astralis?
2020-07-01 03:05
#111
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Brazil fadefedora 
two astralis members sex assaulted a girl. Fer get vac ban Leaf joins mibr
2020-07-01 03:11
#112
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South America BalaNaKara 
16 years old and has more aimlock clips then flusha lol
2020-07-01 03:14
#116
Jamppi | 
Other Ame^v^ 
flag checkouts
2020-07-01 03:41
#128
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South America BalaNaKara 
"other"
2020-07-01 03:59
#117
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Brazil FreeLula 
leaf is not cheating he is good as fuck noobs
2020-07-01 03:42
😳 maybe... vanity told him that C0M was there 😳
2020-07-01 03:49
#140
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Canada gatssbyy 
and he can see him on the mini-map
2020-07-01 16:40
#136
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United States yghj 
holy fuck brasilians are so stupid
2020-07-01 06:18
#141
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Finland Wege 
no
2020-07-01 16:41
So if s1mple plays like this then s1mple is a cheater too? BR brain
2020-07-01 16:42
Too many of those in a short time, yes there's app behind those connectings. I'm just wondering why he continues using that.
2020-07-01 19:29
Imo it's clear and obvious that there's aim assist.
2020-07-01 19:36
#151
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Brunei cyLoL 
Leaf no cheater Brazil just mad MiBR loss to him and then when mens call them out for toxic and sending death threat they say well mens be mean on hltv and twitter ...
2020-07-01 19:35
at least gaules has an accurate name now mibrmemes
2020-07-01 20:03
#158
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Lithuania I_eat_kebabs 
memes mibr KKKKKKKK
2020-07-02 11:16
#159
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Poland TeaToxiC 
He cheats for sure.
2020-07-02 11:25
Pog
2020-07-03 00:55
K
2020-07-03 01:00
100% cheating
2020-07-04 09:12
#168
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Europe letqpena 
No. Everyone who thinks otherwise is delusional beyond the point of insanity.
2020-07-04 12:56
Dude wtf I don't see anything wrong here Calm down Brasilians
2020-07-04 12:59
literally nothing wrong stop crying just cuz mibr sucks
2020-07-04 19:50
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