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IGL AWPers
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France SirC44 
I have always thought being an IGL and an AWPer takes too much concentration to do both at the same time. Any other example than MSL making it work?
2020-07-01 01:34
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CadiaN, Niko apparently, Fallen
2020-07-01 01:35
#6
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France SirC44 
NiKo only AWPs on D2 CT side but Fallen and CadiaN are good calls CadiaN has not been able to achieve much as an IGL though
2020-07-01 01:38
yeP
2020-07-01 01:39
Also arT and he is doing such a huge job.
2020-07-01 02:33
hen1 is the 1st awper in furia
2020-07-01 03:06
Before hen1 arT was awper but still he is doing great job with it.
2020-07-01 03:23
#54
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Norway LeTankT34 
i dont think so. when furia plays i feel like art awp more
2020-07-01 03:23
they do double awp just like fallen and kng, but fallen is better with rifles than him so usually kng gets the awp more frequently
2020-07-01 03:33
you can do it, i believe in you bro, you got it
2020-07-01 01:35
fl0m ;)
2020-07-01 01:35
who is this person
2020-07-01 01:38
famous stream who also plays in a team
2020-07-01 01:39
famous fl0m pick one
2020-07-01 02:11
Pro player/streamer who plays mdl with mythic
2020-07-01 01:50
#4
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Germany Neckarstadion 
Wait are you saying that msl is making it work?
2020-07-01 01:38
#10
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France SirC44 
his output is not as high as a dedicated AWPer but I am pretty sure he still has the 2nd rating after aizy
2020-07-01 01:40
#12
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Germany Neckarstadion 
He does have the 2nd highest rating, but imo that's not a big achievement on a team with cajunb, kristou and gade. I just feel like in the current day in csgo you have to have an awper who is more than just decent in order to be a good team. But msl is not the main problem in north, I can agree on that
2020-07-01 01:44
cadian plays for heroic not north lul bro wtf
2020-07-01 01:43
#16
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Germany Neckarstadion 
Oh i mistyped lol
2020-07-01 01:44
#17
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France SirC44 
true AWPer should be around 1.10 I think considering how much is invested in them
2020-07-01 01:44
FalleN Jame cadiaN nitr0/stewie both were awpers at some point and IGLs chrisJ ? old karrigan ? allu Maka kRYSTAL there you go
2020-07-01 01:39
#14
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France SirC44 
Fallen > yes Jame > isnt adren IGL? cadian > yes but hasnt achieved a lot nitro/stewie > not dedicated, liquid is weird but ok chrisj > didnt do much as igl karrigan > was main awper? I have bad memory allu > he sucked hard so he gave it to sunny maka > lucky is IGL i am pretty sure krystal > nowhere near main awper
2020-07-01 01:45
after they added yekindar jame igl again karrigan was awping a lot when he was playing in tsm i think he was main awper and device rifler maka was igling at some point im pretty sure.. maybe before lucky came krystal is historically a main awper but in this team he doesnt awp yea
2020-07-01 01:45
#21
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France SirC44 
oh yeah there was a time karrigan would awp over device, lmao, thats so dumb imagine if some player like shox were to play AWP over the best AWPer in the world
2020-07-01 01:47
Kappa
2020-07-01 01:49
well yesterday on inferno shox was taking awp all the time :D 1 round zywoo saved awp and gave it to shox, but when they started losing zywoo took it and won the game :DD
2020-07-01 02:09
#27
Jame | 
Estonia retzyy 
>after they added yekindar jame igl again rly? i mean such a shame for me if im actually wrong but i think adren is still igling in vp
2020-07-01 01:53
#28
Jame | 
Estonia retzyy 
any source tho? like liquidpedia says that adren is still an igl
2020-07-01 01:54
ive seen it somewhere just recently, idk bro.. could be fake but why
2020-07-01 02:00
#33
Jame | 
Estonia retzyy 
im not indicting u but i dont want to be wrong in some argues and i dont want to be seen as a fake fan and stuff u know
2020-07-01 02:01
no i understand lol, im not sure as well, i think someone on hltv wrote that after they added yekindar jame is igling again, i took that as a truth because normally it is makes sense kinda, their results were really bad so maybe they wanted a change in that sense too
2020-07-01 02:04
#38
Jame | 
Estonia retzyy 
well yeah anyway jame was an igl for a long time and he was sick ngl
2020-07-01 02:06
yep, tbh i would kick adren and bring back buster
2020-07-01 02:07
#42
Jame | 
Estonia retzyy 
this topic is pure demagogy imo but i really think that vp need to get a change in their roster
2020-07-01 02:10
#43
Jame | 
Estonia retzyy 
i mean results are getting better but bruhhhh this is not 'summer/fall 2019' play
2020-07-01 02:10
does he stream? i think u can ask him
2020-07-01 02:05
#40
Jame | 
Estonia retzyy 
rarely because of tournaments but as far as i know soon he will stream more
2020-07-01 02:07
fallen, jame and nitr0
2020-07-01 01:42
Honestly, it's only Jame who kinda was able to make it work
2020-07-01 01:43
nah, fallen or nitro achieved way more being igl awpers
2020-07-01 01:45
Yeah well nitro pretty much just played awp on ct cides only and even then he just sits there and holds an angle without doing anything that an awper supposed to do. Fallen maybe in his glory days, now his biggest achievement is having the most excuses
2020-07-01 01:51
#29
FalleN | 
Other YamiS_ 
can be a hundred years from now but jaime's biggest achivement is saving the awp over and over again...and ur putting him over FalleN.... ok XD XD XD
2020-07-01 01:56
#20
daps | 
United States wtcce4 
I mean fallen won two majors doing both so yeah it can work, that being said 90% of the people who try *ahem* allu, are bound to be terrible
2020-07-01 01:46
#35
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Argentina MyMatkhev 
allu terrible? What game do you watch mate?
2020-07-01 02:04
#36
daps | 
United States wtcce4 
not as a player, but as an igl he caused his team to nearly fall out of the top 30, theres also the whole bot allu meme too
2020-07-01 02:05
#45
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Argentina MyMatkhev 
Agree with the iGL part, but, not with the meme, he never played like bot, i think he deserved so much respect, have a great career and put up decent to big numbers.
2020-07-01 02:12
FalleN but bad IGL nitr0 a few months ago Happy awped a bit
2020-07-01 01:49
#24
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Argentina Demonark 
art before hen1, and still in some maps/situations
2020-07-01 01:50
#30
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France SirC44 
I'd call arT more of an entry fragger than an AWP even though he often uses the AWP to entryfrag, I think he is closer to apEX than MSL
2020-07-01 01:57
#32
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Argentina MrNans 
Old Karrigan
2020-07-01 02:00
Fallen?
2020-07-01 02:28
#47
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Portugal DeviphZ 
cadian, fallen, Art, nitr0(altough right now he isn't), and I'm sure there are a lot more out there
2020-07-01 02:30
rock
2020-07-01 02:32
#50
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Bosnia and Herzegovina mirzach0W 
art rn is just playing godlike and probably the best cs of his life
2020-07-01 02:56
#52
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Sweden crittaN 
5/8
2020-07-01 03:19
#56
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North America Straf3R 
Nitr0, Stew, Fallen, Cadian, Jame, etc.
2020-07-01 03:38
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