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#1
sAw | 
Portugal tiagoacf23 
the first clip is unbelievable
2020-07-01 03:16
exactly he saw him on the mini map
2020-07-01 03:25
#32
sAw | 
Portugal tiagoacf23 
still dont buy it, too many clips.
2020-07-01 03:28
#37
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Denmark Treogtredive 
0/8. Stop being a delusional kid and grow up. "sTiLl DoNt BuY iT", he has not done anything wrong, and this clip is not even suspicious at all, have you heard about INFORMATION FROM A TEAMMATE? Something you get when a teammate dies or sees an enemy.
2020-07-01 03:29
#61
sAw | 
Portugal tiagoacf23 
#54
2020-07-01 03:38
#62
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Denmark Treogtredive 
Hahahaha, get help bro, ur delusional.
2020-07-01 03:39
Sure dude, the concrete wall is so commonly wallbanged and of course it is common to aim on the center of the head because, you know, the sound clues and the radar. And the second clip is just because it is the most common prefire position so you have to look at it. The funny thing is that if you see an entire VOD you will notice that each one of those weird corrections "randomly" goes straight to one enemy, but you know, the luck factor... LEAF should buy some lottery tickets :D
2020-07-01 16:51
#267
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Denmark Treogtredive 
If there now is "evidence" that you believe that he cheats surely TO:s and Valve etc will go through it. But nah, hes not cheating. He had one good Bo3 vs MIBR then played very poorly for a lot of games, yet hes being hunted. I mean, people doesnt even attack s1mple, yet hes been banned for cheating before lol.
2020-07-01 16:56
hahahaha valve banning cheaters, bro, they are making millions from this game, why would valve or any TO ban anyone? there is no problem if they pretend it doesnt exist. there is no oversight committee. lmao. how do you think this world works. are you 15 or something? and plenty of ppl do attack simple, hes still cheating
2020-07-03 14:15
#393
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Denmark Treogtredive 
"hahahaha valve banning cheaters, bro, they are making millions from this game, why would valve or any TO ban anyone?" Then Valve wouldnt have banned Jamppi, V$M and so on, lol. "are you 15 or something?" No? But i could ask you that question because of your comment.
2020-07-03 14:56
jamppi fucked up too bad, got a vac banned account before his career even started. valve havent banned any cheating western pros in years.
2020-07-03 14:57
#397
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Denmark Treogtredive 
" valve havent banned any cheating western pros in years." Because no one in T1-T2 EU cs is cheating? lol.
2020-07-03 14:59
they are lol
2020-07-03 15:00
#402
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Denmark Treogtredive 
0/8. Delusional much. Tell me, how much money did you lose on that MIBR game?
2020-07-03 15:01
lmao why are you so butthurt, mad that astralis is cheating?
2020-07-03 15:03
#405
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Denmark Treogtredive 
>lmao why are you so butthurt >#379 Again: How much?
2020-07-03 15:04
i told you, 0
2020-07-03 15:04
The first clip he just wallbanged because he knew the guy was there. He was literally shooting in the middle of the wall how fucking stupid do you have to be. Second one was just him adjusting and literally why would anyone press an aimlock key in that situation
2020-07-01 18:50
+1. The only suspicious fact is that he repeats this behaivor almost every time he flicks or wallbangs. What a coincidence. I hope he really doesn't cheat and simply becomes the next "ropz" or something. Have a good day.
2020-07-02 17:30
Everytime im watching my own demos or even pro players demos i can see at least 1-3 so called aimlocks per game from every player.
2020-07-02 19:19
1-3 per player per game? What resolution do you play to see that? 196x128? You need more pixels dude. Anyways we don't need to explain no more... you are partially right and probably I am too. Have a nice day dude
2020-07-03 13:43
show me one of those aimlocks from your own demo. ppl have been saying this for years. i have asked dozens of you to prove it. you would be the first. i will buy you a beer.
2020-07-03 14:16
youtu.be/Jyvj6keWT24 Just watch the game
2020-07-03 16:21
there are so many lineups through that wall with the awp everyone knows that’s wallbangable
2020-07-04 00:10
Yes, with the AWP not with an AK :)) and one thing is a lineup and another is a lock to the head
2020-07-06 09:43
but people will know if there is lineups you can walk bang with it so he knows he can try and he’s probably gunna be lining it up with the minimap
2020-07-06 10:54
XD dude, I don't know if you are just trolling or something but a player of his level knows exactly all the walls he can wallbang with each gun. And the "minimap lining" I hope you are trolling lol
2020-07-06 11:31
you just said he knows which walls he can wallbang so why are you confused if he wallbangs the wall,
2020-07-06 11:41
have you heard about the difference between "knowing someone is somewhere there" and "exactly know his position?". you still don't get it: no one says it is fishy that he knows/predicts someone is there. that was never in doubt. yet he seems to know the exact position, by pixel!! if you say it is not suspicious at all then you are blind. sure each individual clip could be a coincidence (except for a few which cannot even be explained as coincidence, like the one in monster), I agree with that. but all these clips are at least suspicious since the aim is so precise for not knowing the exact position of the opponent (again: it's not about knowing someone is there!). however, the sheer amount of clips we have now, makes it very difficult to believe that it is just a coincidence that he was just aiming at a wall, exactly where an opponent is behind.
2020-07-01 10:22
#228
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Brazil Suxh1 
exactly bro, and more, this wall is not a fuckin wallbang, so why the fuq he started shoting?
2020-07-01 14:58
#229
curry | 
India Gamerz2 
yeah it is a wallbang lmao, this is a very common spray, Ts do it to the CTs when they push up, tf are you on about?
2020-07-01 15:02
#230
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Brazil Suxh1 
oh, so my bad, I haven’t played train for so long time But well, It is still hard to believe that he knew the enemy’s exactly position
2020-07-01 15:05
#236
curry | 
India Gamerz2 
Not really, factor in that Vanity can see the enemy AND it shows up on leafs radar. Aiming at head level when starting a spray is normal for pros, increases chance of hs right?
2020-07-01 15:06
as I pointed out in #234 this clip really doesn't indicate anything. It could still be he used an aimlock there, but I agree, that starting to shoot is reasonable here and the position is common for a wall-bang - yet it could still be that he locked on him - this clip just says nothing. the second clip however is super suspicious, like the one in monster on overpass vs mibr. I don't get this one... there are still to many clips similar to this.. i don't believe in so many coincidences like this given the precision of his aim through walls/smokes and to say aim at the head through a wall sounds kinda weird and would indicate a cheat. pros aim at the height of the head, and know angles quite well, which increase the chance to hit. yet they never aim at a person behind a wall, since they don't see them, they aim at positions/angles. this tiny difference in wording is kinda important here and show the thing, which ppl doesn't understand and shows why the clips from leaf are so suspicious. he aims at his opponent, not at angles
2020-07-01 15:18
You could look at demos from any player and there will be moments like the ones everyone are clipping from leaf. The only reason theyre getting so much attention is that there are thousands of brazilian 13 year olds with 100 hours played convinced that leaf is cheating because he destroyed mibr in one game. And of course you cant destroy the major winning brazilian core best team of all time without cheats.
2020-07-01 15:57
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2020-07-01 16:17
#264
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Portugal hybridz 
why does everyone has to be so toxic towards brazilians ?.. just admit that leaf is fishy ... there's just too many clips of him , admit it
2020-07-01 16:20
A very large portion of those clips cant be aimlock because the players hes "locking" on to arent even rendered. And that just shows how his aiming style is very snappy, which can lead to more clips. The only clip ive seen that cant be explained or disproved is the monster clip and thats only one clip. Im being toxic to the brazilians who are the ones making stupid accusations when they dont understand the game and sending death threats to a 16 year old kid. Not like thats toxic at all.
2020-07-01 17:16
first of all I disagree with your comment from #251 that you see these things on other pros (except for a few, which I consequently also consider to be suspicious). second: it gets so much attention, because it is necessary to get so much attention. forsaken has proven that you can cheat on LANs with admins behind you, without getting caught (he got later caught by anti-cheat software, not admins!). it is important to debate about this. third: whether a model is rendered or not doesn't matter, the cheat just needs to know the position, this is independent from the rendering (coordinates =!= rendered model). and by the way this would only apply to the inferno clip - none of the other clips. fourth: you didn't understand what I said. all the "explanations" just say why he possibly knew someone was there. yet that was never in doubt. it is the lock on players which is in doubt. in fact, none of this has ever been explained and just saying he knew someone was there is not enough to explain so many clips. think about the difference between aiming at a player (suspicious) or aiming at a position (not suspicious) - with the latter one occasionally coincide with the first one (yet not as often as we observe with leaf) fifth: accusing someone to not understand the game without knowing the person is kinda stupid. given my previous points it is not clear that these "accusations" by gaules and others are stupid. sixth: the death threats are just reflection of the general language here on HLTV, I don't see a big difference in seriousness to the death threats than to calling Brazillians m******s. Don't get me wrong, I disrespect these death threats, as well as all the other racist language here.
2020-07-01 17:56
First: I think this could be because of his aiming style and people paying more attention to him but I agree to disagree. Second: I have to partly agree with you on this one. Its good to investigate fishy players but this has been more of a witch hunt. Third: when a player is not near you he doesnt get rendered which means the information about his location doesnt get sent to the client so the cheat cant know hes there. Fifth: I was talking about them not knowing how the game engine works when it doesnt even send the information about someones position to leaf. Sixth: Im talking about the death threats hes been getting on other platforms like twitter. I doubt he reads these hltv threads. Lastly its great to talk with someone like you who can actually have a nice conversation. Most of the accusators are really immature.
2020-07-01 18:02
I don't understand your answer to "first". second: some ppl definatley overdoing, from my point it's not a witch hunt, because it would indicate the hunt for something which is not there. however, as to my point of view, I find some of the clips really suspicious. thus it's not a witch hunt. third: as to my understanding, to render a model means to graphically model the player as how he appears in the game. yet the positional information are just 3d coordinates. the clients needs to have these information to know when it has to render a model or not. however, even if i am wrong on that: if you are connected to a server the cheat can also access the positional information directly from the server. and if this would be also wrong then there is one clip less. doesn't change things to much. Fifth: that also applys to not knowing the game engine? actually, I highly doubt that you understand it in detail.. however, as far as I understand these rendering starts when a player enters the overnext "box" - so close before he really can be physically seen ingame. this is the case for both overpass clips, it is the case on mirage, this is the case on the train clips here - even though the first clip doesn't evidently show anything. sixth: it doesn't matter which platform is used. most ppl sending these twitter messages might be also active here. however I think it is not just limited to hltv, it is also the ingame language and often the language generally used on the internet. and I agree with you, it is important to talk without insulting and so on. if I find any good explanations then I will be happy to be convinced that leaf is not cheating, yet so far I haven't seen any and there are a lot of suspicious clips.
2020-07-01 18:43
first of all you dont even know how the lock works. It is not wallhack. You client may not render the character but it has the information that he is there. Thats why you still have radar hacks, and locks from everywhere. You have hacker showing that in video. Even though wallhack doesn't see the player, the lock will.
2020-07-03 13:54
Where does it lock if the cheat doesnt know where the player model is?
2020-07-03 14:27
Your client has all information. It just block the render of the player so you can't use wall hack. But it's there. Blocking the render means your client wont show the 3d model. However the client have the info of everyone and their coordinates let's say. So if you actually have an aim assist that reads that info it will lock no matter what. You can go and do a deeper research on the matter yourself if you don't believe it.
2020-07-05 13:22
#318
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Brunei cyLoL 
+1
2020-07-01 19:47
Yes, we can tell you haven't played this game at all. Silver fuck.
2020-07-03 13:53
#451
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Brazil Suxh1 
Ok lmfao, and then guys like u are the first to call Brazilians toxics when some of them make a death threats
2020-07-04 00:07
it's only wallbangable by AWP
2020-07-03 15:38
#436
curry | 
India Gamerz2 
no, AK spam can do damage too
2020-07-03 16:21
no, it fucking can't, I've just test it. Prove it or I'll...
2020-07-03 20:00
actually the wall-bang I don't find to suspicious. just imagine he only looks at the minimap, ad he could do that since he was covered by his mate, and then as soon as there was the dot on the map (as seen by his mate) he went over and shooted, roughly at the time his mate starts shooting. however, it does not mean that no aimlock is used here, yet it is neither indicating anything. the second clip is however super suspicious! here the distance was much further and thus much less likely to exactly aim onto his opponent. and is was dead-on.
2020-07-01 15:06
#256
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Myanmar Stop_baiting 
Silvers dont understand how good you can be in this game. Its just sad.
2020-07-01 16:01
thanks for that insult. but you don't provide any insights. anyhow, he must be god-skilled to know the exact pixel of his opponents, even behind walls and smokes. do you know how ridiculous that sound? there is a difference between knowing and predicting. most pros predict positions and the accusations about leaf are knowing the exact positions. if you don't understand that, then I don't know what to say. I assume you are just angry that brazilians might be right. btw: why would it be sad to not understand how good ppl can be? especially, when you already insulted me as silver... wouldn't that be natural to not understand things as good as a global elite?
2020-07-01 17:53
clips.twitch.tv/BoringEnjoyableBubbletea.. clips.twitch.tv/MuddyGoodGazelleShazBots.. just some example of perfectly normal aiming these pros do every game
2020-07-03 15:02
and this looks similar to the leaf clips for you?! don't you see the unnatural/abrupt move of leaf, which doesn't happen for idisbalance or bubskji? as indeed believe that, from time to time the cross places right at an opponent as coincidence.. especially, if you do this professionally and play a lot. yet the fact that this happens too often for leaf within one match, at various also unlikely positions (such as monster, or the second clip here) is very suspicious. however neither idisbalance nor bubskji really flicked precisly at the opponent, and then abruptly moved the crosshair away.
2020-07-03 18:42
Like how n1's talking about his lock on the guy in hell before going into A main...
2020-07-01 16:06
I don't understand that comment...
2020-07-01 17:53
dude. this kid is blatant. you are either also cheating or a huge bot. give up.
2020-07-03 13:45
#395
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Denmark Treogtredive 
0/8. Give up? Why? Hes not blatant and hes not cheating. Stop being a crying kid and move on. "Huge bot", says the guy that says Leaf is cheating when hes not. Give up yourself.
2020-07-03 14:58
he is blatant and he is cheating, stop crying and move on
2020-07-03 14:58
#400
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Denmark Treogtredive 
HAHAHAHAHA. You probably lost money on a bet. Change flag to a Brazilian one dude.
2020-07-03 15:00
betting on this rigged scene full of matchfix and cheating? id rather go to casino or stock market than this trash scene.
2020-07-03 15:00
#458
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Germany GermanEmpire 
+1
2020-07-06 11:33
#429
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Portugal MufT4r 
too many coincidences
2020-07-03 15:39
#47
Jamppi | 
Other Ame^v^ 
ofc sAw fans. expected
2020-07-01 03:35
#180
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Portugal VirgemExtra 
you are fan of a guy who cant compete in majors because he cheated kekekekek
2020-07-01 10:15
#209
gAuLeS | 
Brazil fe090 
hahahahahahahahahhaha man, now you know you are on the right side hahahaha
2020-07-01 14:05
#52
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Germany SL3ID3R 
You do realize, if he plays 24/7 there are bound to be "too many clips" just because he plays so much lmao
2020-07-01 03:36
#181
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Portugal VirgemExtra 
thats the point, he doesnt
2020-07-01 10:15
flag checks out
2020-07-01 04:12
"Still don't buy it" is literally the same thing I'm saying about all these cheating allegations. Half of the clips you've seen have been disproven, and the rest might as well be coincidences. There is no aimlock as there literally is no lock. He moves his mouse over smoothly. Every player has clips like this in literally every game, it's just people target this kid because he had a few more. As for the first clip in this post, you have to think reasonably about this: vanity spotted him and could very well have called it out. We've already established that vanity saw him and if they have any decent comms he would tell leaf immediately. Why wouldn't leaf go for the spray? He's already thrown the nade to give away his position and he knows that they have an eco, so likely no helmet. Also, in the beginning of the clip we can see on the radar that C0M is running in T-spawn (aka making steps) and that vanity is in main, close enough to hear the steps. I would have gone for the same spray, and if you wouldn't, you aren't thinking smartly enough about your game. There is literally nothing fishy about this clip.
2020-07-01 14:37
the time between vanity seeing the player and leaf shooting is too short for vanity to give the comm (btw leaf shot at the same time vanity did, dont know if its relevant just wanted to point it out), I do believe leaf saw him on the minimap, but that time is like 200 ms which means the kid has fucking good reactions, dont forget about how precise he was... this is why i find this wierd. how they knew about the player its not what's bothering me, its his reaction and precision... if he is this good then i'm sorry for my comment.
2020-07-01 16:32
I don't necessarily think he reacted to WHAT vanity said, he knew a player might be in the area and he just reacted to vanity saying anything. Pros calling "I'm searching" is pretty common, and it means that any other nearby players are on edge for contact. And since he knows the map as well as any other CS pro, he knows where to spray. The wallbang through the inner A-main wall is pretty common both ways. For me there's a crucial piece of the puzzle that is missing, and it's the fact that the spray is completely logical and makes perfect sense. For me a clip is fishy once the player is doing illogical things. Had they had no info about C0M in T-spawn, and had leaf been alone, then the spray would have been illogical, and fishy to me.
2020-07-01 17:42
they knew he was there ,earlier in the round u can see on the minimap that vanity saw him and asked for help, but again knowing or not was never the problem for me. spraying the wall is also not a problem for me. i said on #265 what i found wierd, but maybe that is just a good reaction, because it really doesn't make sense to cheat in that round.
2020-07-01 19:39
Yeah I don't think it had anything to do with reactions. Maybe he decided to spray without even knowing? I mean it might just have been a coincidence that it happened at the same time. He does spray right after the nade lands, which isn't uncommon.
2020-07-01 19:47
Every player has clips like this in literally every game yes pro players, because they cheat
2020-07-03 14:59
Interesting opinion, I would love to hear more
2020-07-03 16:40
Inhuman reactions, he flicks to the guy's head BEFORE his teammate starts shooting
2020-07-01 03:53
#98
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Denmark Treogtredive 
oh....my....god... YES?!?! BECAUSE HE SAW HIM ON THE RADAR WHEN HIS TEAMMATE PEAKED?!?!?!?! Holy sh*t dude?!
2020-07-01 03:54
So he saw on the radar and flicked faster than his teammate started shooting.....?
2020-07-01 03:56
#105
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Denmark Treogtredive 
Omg....Dude...please...just stop...you are so delusional IT FUCKING HURTS ME dude...its pains me to see someone this delusional. Vanity is peaking the guy, which then lets Leaf know on radar AND in communications between him and Vanity lets him know an exact location of the enemy. I wish you the best bro, hope you get over this delusional syndrome you are having, but i cant talk with you anymore because its honestly mentally exhausting trying to talk some sense into you.
2020-07-01 04:00
Ok if you believe that vanity telling where the enemy is (or leaf seeing on the radar) and leaf flicking exactly to that spot can possibly be FASTER than vanity shooting the guy who he is seeing in front of him
2020-07-01 04:03
#114
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Denmark Treogtredive 
"and leaf flicking exactly to that spot can possibly be FASTER than vanity shooting the guy who he is seeing in front of him" Because the enemy is behind the spammable wall, and the little "room" the enemy is in is not more than.... 1½ meters long, which means Leaf got some sort of knowledge where the enemy is PLUS the information and red dot on the map, thats why hes spraying the wall.
2020-07-01 04:05
1. that huge wall is not sprayable by AK, only AVP 2. You can see that he flicks to the enemy BEFORE his teammate spots him and starts shooting Be unbiased, ffs
2020-07-01 04:08
#119
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Denmark Treogtredive 
"Huge wall" XD That wall is thin dude lmfao. "Be unbiased, ffs" I am? I am not a fan of Chaos, Leaf or any of the Chaos players. AND i am not a fan of anyone from MIBR or MIBR. But when i see the stupid shit you Brazilians are posting towards a child daily as well as these stupid "lOoK aT tHiS fLiCk" comments EDIT: Also, please, check out a "Wallbang" video of De_Train dude, you can literally wallbang 80% of the walls on Train lol.
2020-07-01 04:15
why are you wasting your time with a brazilian? they believe anything gaules and fallen feeds them there’s a reason mibr has been dogshit for years
2020-07-01 04:16
#128
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Denmark Treogtredive 
xD
2020-07-01 04:18
#187
Jamppi | 
Other Ame^v^ 
bro pls relax don't freaking waste all ur time on low brain ppl lol
2020-07-01 10:17
Don't even argue with Brazilians otherwise Gaules will call you Xenophobic and racist for not agreeing with Brazilians.
2020-07-01 10:06
#210
gAuLeS | 
Brazil fe090 
dont argue with leaf fans, otherwise they will call you threatening and bullying a kid for not agreeing with cheaters
2020-07-01 14:09
Nice calling someone cheater without any evidence.
2020-07-01 14:39
#225
gAuLeS | 
Brazil fe090 
hahahaha yes, the videos are super normal
2020-07-01 14:53
#170
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Hungary domcsa10 
What the clip again my Brazilian bro. Vanity already spotted the enemy before leaf throws a nade, to make the enemy get out from cover. The enemy didn't come out from there as they thought he will, so vanity was not able to see him, and the corner was between him and the enemy, so he couldn't shoot him throught the wall, that's the reason why leaf was spamming throught the wall, and he had a big chance of hitting the enemy, because the CT only had a small area to move.
2020-07-01 10:09
Lmao so you want me to believe this guy has inhuman reactions where he can react instantly with radar and know exactly where the enemy is just looking at the radar but he doesn't know that you can't wallbang this with AK ? the fucker just hit his aimlock key.
2020-07-01 10:11
Damn, delusional MIBR fans stil ongoing with their vendetta going into 8 Days after losing from underdog team like Chaos.
2020-07-01 10:16
#244
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Australia c0meatm3_Bro 
yes but have you seen this? gyazo.com/efd20e60574238808f8d5c3d57c430.. clearly shows leaf looking at someone through that wall
2020-07-01 15:16
#147
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United States p1mple_worst 
malding in brazil
2020-07-01 04:56
just lucky coincidence it was head. ofc pro keeps aim on head level to increase the probability of HS. if he does 1000 times the same kind of through the wall shoot (based on teammates information) of course some are gonna hit at first shot. this was not suspicious but flashy play IMO.
2020-07-01 10:16
#131
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Portugal Agricultor 
What about the other one?
2020-07-01 04:23
why is nobody talking about the really reason of the clip, the walbang was just the rest of it
2020-07-01 05:00
Lmao so you want me to believe this guy has inhuman reactions where he can react instantly with radar and know exactly where the enemy is just looking at the radar but he doesn't know that you can't wallbang this with AK ? the fucker just hit his aimlock key.
2020-07-01 10:11
#205
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Denmark Treogtredive 
"Inhuman" Lol, ur so delusional
2020-07-01 12:19
#252
HUNDEN | 
Iceland GranMa 
Inhuman = Better than random matchmaking players.
2020-07-01 15:58
What about the other 6-7 clips that also show him locking on heads?
2020-07-01 14:42
#232
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Denmark Treogtredive 
Wow, another delusional person. Leaf is not cheating, end of story.
2020-07-01 15:06
Call me delusional when you probably didn't even watch all the clips, nt
2020-07-01 15:08
#249
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Denmark Treogtredive 
I did. I probably watched around 100 clip past 2-3 weeks dude.
2020-07-01 15:48
Sure. Believable.
2020-07-01 15:54
#459
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Germany GermanEmpire 
link all 6-7 clips you are talking about pls
2020-07-06 11:34
I naturally dont have all the links at hand, they are easy to find, even if you dont find the raw clips you'll surely find people reacting to them, the 2 clips on overpass and the one on train when he is in the ladder room are the ones that really makes it obvious.
2020-07-06 12:23
#42
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Other DanDDuck 
1º clip you would check that angle normally when going forward or backwards in site or post plant situation. Stop, it's enough... Do u really think after all of this he would dare to Heck? i'm realising that you don t have game skill enough to understand this. 2º clip it's kind of odd but still, i don t think it's anything at all
2020-07-01 03:31
#135
North America TL0 
silvers are completely mind blown that you can shoot thru a wall when u know someone is around the corner lol
2020-07-01 04:25
#233
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Denmark Treogtredive 
+1 KEK
2020-07-01 15:06
#381
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India ROFLaala 
even fl0m justified that
2020-07-03 14:17
#2
floppy | 
United States Frotha 
Imagine being this retarded LUL. CSGO radar and teammates exist
2020-07-01 03:19
imagine defending a 16 yo unknown lul
2020-07-01 03:20
#14
floppy | 
United States Frotha 
Not defending lol, don’t need to defend someone who isn’t guilty and hasn’t been convicted
2020-07-01 03:24
Actually that's the whole point of defending somebody
2020-07-01 03:21
#20
floppy | 
United States Frotha 
True
2020-07-01 03:23
#115
BnTeT | 
Indonesia lukerey 
You must be the guy who send death threat to leaf. You act so tough online bro. Be careful
2020-07-01 04:07
didnt and wouldnt send death threats to anyone just dont like cheaters fucking up csgo
2020-07-01 04:10
#124
BnTeT | 
Indonesia lukerey 
Ironic coming up from flusha fan. Gtfo mate.
2020-07-01 04:16
so flusha cheated and leaf dont?
2020-07-01 04:18
#183
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Hungary domcsa10 
No, he just meant to say that, if you think leaf is cheating it is weird to be a fan of flusha, who has a similar playstyle, and you should think that he is also a cheater.
2020-07-01 10:16
#298
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Russia Oppai_senpai 
so u agree that flusha cheated ?/
2020-07-01 17:57
no i was asking if thats what he thinks i dont think flusha cheated he never got caught and won majors but we talking bout a 16 yo unknown player that never won anything with multiple suspicious clips and hes not on lan. i think ppl should forget their hate bout brazilians and focus on whats happening im not saying hes guilty im discussing those 2 clips and the other 15 or whatv that happened in 2 weeks, ig that we'll find if hes guilty or not in the next months or if he ever decide to go on lan
2020-07-01 19:14
#313
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Russia Oppai_senpai 
so you have to win something to be excused of cheating ??
2020-07-01 19:20
if everyone think flusha cheated then fallen cheated, the guys in astralis cheated, bunch of players did and our game is a joke and valve is allowing it i'd rather think they didn't
2020-07-01 19:50
still bitter about mibr bombing out last place in a na qualifier? XAXAXAXAXAXAXA
2020-07-01 04:17
stop talking shit pls
2020-07-01 05:00
#3
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North America retard2k 
Calling people suspicious with that flair kkkkkkkkk
2020-07-01 03:18
#314
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Russia Oppai_senpai 
lol XD
2020-07-01 19:21
Stop crying. Move on ffs.
2020-07-01 03:18
#5
sAw | 
Portugal tiagoacf23 
did you see the clips? see the first one at least
2020-07-01 03:19
just when vanity saw him it showed up on the map for leaf and its a common wallbang spot thats no way near anything ''suspicious''
2020-07-01 03:20
#21
sAw | 
Portugal tiagoacf23 
im not saying is cheating but u have to admit he's fishy
2020-07-01 03:22
#31
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Germany polycarp 
i wont stop saying otherwise unless you people stop calling the clips who arent suspicious at all "fishy" because thats annyoing as fuck.
2020-07-01 03:27
#54
sAw | 
Portugal tiagoacf23 
leaf started shooting at the same time as vanity did, i would like to see vanity's camera to see how long he took to shoot. also i don't know how much time it takes for the red dot to appear on the mini map, even if its instantaneous, then that would mean he has rly good reactions and very precise.
2020-07-01 03:37
#80
allu | 
Canada lunchies 
it's instant, and the dot would obviously appear before vanity shoots. He would looking directly at the map in that scenario, so obviously he's gonna see and shoot.
2020-07-01 03:47
You know about left and right eye peak right? And he isn't as slow as you bots.
2020-07-01 10:08
you still don't get it: no one says it is fishy that he knows/predicts someone is there. that was never in doubt. yet he seems to know the exact position, by pixel!! if you say it is not suspicious at all then you are blind. sure each individual clip could be a coincidence (except for a few which cannot even be explained as coincidence, like the one in monster), I agree with that. but all these clips are at least suspicious since the aim is so precise for not knowing the exact position of the opponent (again: it's not about knowing someone is there!). however, the sheer amount of clips we have now, makes it very difficult to believe that it is just a coincidence that he was just aiming at a wall, exactly where an opponent is behind. and I have to add, the second clip looks more suspicious then the first one. the first one I wouldn't even call suspicious, as to what was said here, he might have seen the dot on the minimap and he could afford to only focus on the minimap since his mate was there, he could really know where he is, it doesn't look suspicious, which on the other hand doesn't mean he didn't lock! yet the second clip is super weird - no matter if he knew someone is there around, the exact aim is so weird - you cannot deny that, right?
2020-07-01 10:28
Ak bullets cant penetrate that wall.
2020-07-03 14:14
"common wallbang" lmao you must be silver you can't bang this wall with an ak-47
2020-07-03 15:52
yes u can are u rly that stupid xaxaxaa
2020-07-03 16:06
The second one is more obvious lul
2020-07-01 03:21
#24
sAw | 
Portugal tiagoacf23 
maybe i didnt rly put much atention on that one, i was think about the first xd
2020-07-01 03:23
#300
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Russia Oppai_senpai 
finally someone
2020-07-01 17:58
is like half of brazil hate watching this guy now?
2020-07-01 03:19
#23
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Other Entry_ 
yeah, now every BR streamer looking for views streams Chaos matches XD
2020-07-01 03:23
at least chaos gets more views now I guess lol
2020-07-01 03:28
#7
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North America joeS 
peanut brain in op
2020-07-01 03:19
#30
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Denmark Treogtredive 
+1 xd #27 Vanity literally gave Leaf info and Leaf obv sees his teammate die xD
2020-07-01 03:25
#35
floppy | 
United States Frotha 
He is also probably on the radar
2020-07-01 03:29
#38
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Denmark Treogtredive 
Yeah.
2020-07-01 03:29
#8
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United Kingdom AuSieX 
Another brazitard
2020-07-01 03:19
Thnx for signing up for next Gaules video. xD
2020-07-01 10:09
#9
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Argentina w1NkehD 
wtf first clip xd?
2020-07-01 03:19
#28
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Denmark Treogtredive 
#27 Do you guys literally not fucking see Vanity die and Leaf knows the enemy is there so he spams the wall? Yikes.
2020-07-01 03:24
#39
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Argentina w1NkehD 
Can you just watch the clip? 0.5x speed if it is 2fast4u Yikes.
2020-07-01 03:30
#40
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Denmark Treogtredive 
0/8 delusional AF.
2020-07-01 03:30
#48
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Argentina w1NkehD 
mb
2020-07-01 03:35
1st of all Vanity didn't die from that guy behind the wall. Actually it was vanity who killed him, leaf was just shooting the guy because he saw him on radar. By the way stop replying to this braindamaged monkeys. They ain't worth talking.
2020-07-01 04:19
#132
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Denmark Treogtredive 
"1st of all Vanity didn't die from that guy behind the wall." Well my bad, you get me still. No need for that second part of your comment mate.
2020-07-01 04:24
Just read the comments, this is tooo much. This guy will mentality break leaf, he is just 16, I hope twitch ban gaules so that this retard haters will stfu
2020-07-01 04:26
#138
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Denmark Treogtredive 
Yupp, i also hope Gaules gets permanently banned, or at least a 1+ month ban and a HUGE warning. Because, he actually broke some Twitch rules/guidelines: "Hateful Conduct and Harassment Harassment is any content or activity that attempts to intimidate, degrade, abuse, or bully others, or creates a hostile environment for others, and is prohibited. Depending on the severity of the offense, your account may be indefinitely suspended on the first violation. We prohibit using Twitch to facilitate hateful conduct or harassment, whether the targets are on or off Twitch. Individuals, communities or organizations that do so are not allowed to use our services. We may take action against users for hateful conduct or harassment that occurs off Twitch services that is directed at Twitch users. Learn more about our hateful conduct and harassment policies and enforcement."
2020-07-01 04:29
Gaules never said to his viewers to go threat or hate Leaf. And by the reaction of this stupid racist french, I have sure there is no brains on this conversation.
2020-07-01 04:49
#157
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Denmark Treogtredive 
"Gaules never said to his viewers to go threat or hate Leaf." Oh really Sherlock? I know?! But what do you expect from the 100k+ viewers?? Even if he says "no no, dont attack him", he still triggered them to do it by watching Leaf VOD for like 1+ hour as well as tweeting 3-4-5 tweets about Leaf and his scoreboard etc. Well i told him that there is no need for that second part of his comment dude, what can i do?
2020-07-01 05:17
That's the point dude, he doesn't "officially" said for his viewers to did this, so he can defend himself on base he can't control his 100k+ viewers.
2020-07-01 13:16
#208
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Denmark Treogtredive 
"he can defend himself on base he can't control his 100k+ viewers." No? Twitch rules dude
2020-07-01 14:01
Maybe if you would understand Portuguese you will understand that gaules is an asshole who manipulate people to harrass leaf
2020-07-01 05:38
Lmao so you want me to believe this guy has inhuman reactions where he can react instantly with radar and know exactly where the enemy is just looking at the radar but he doesn't know that you can't wallbang this with AK ? the fucker just hit his aimlock key.
2020-07-01 10:11
Fuck you, stupid racist
2020-07-01 20:08
Lmao so you want me to believe this guy has inhuman reactions where he can react instantly with radar and know exactly where the enemy is just looking at the radar but he doesn't know that you can't wallbang this with AK ? the fucker just hit his aimlock key.
2020-07-01 10:11
2nd clip is so obvious that im totally convicted he is cheating.
2020-07-01 03:19
#133
kNgV- | 
Brazil Soulsix 
same 1st clip could have been he got the info from his teammate and tried te wall bang (even tho that wall isnt wallbangable by ak and everyone knows) but the 2nd for me is blatant
2020-07-01 04:24
#297
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Serbia Provizija 
imagine using aimlock for info on 15:7 lead...
2020-07-01 17:54
#255
HUNDEN | 
Iceland GranMa 
yes, you are totally convicted..
2020-07-01 16:01
And they dont stop coming wtf
2020-07-01 03:20
#15
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Chile esanchez47 
In the first one he has the info from vanity, nothing strange. BUT, shots were perfect, i mean that's VERY TEAM PRACTISED, or VERY LUCKY...
2020-07-01 03:21
How much "coincidence" clips already, 10? 20? I lost my count lul
2020-07-01 03:23
Like 4 so far kekw
2020-07-01 04:00
#161
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Argentina iamNOTgay 
it seems like you cant count at all
2020-07-01 05:47
and it isnt a point of wall shot...he didnt make any damage to the CT guy...vanity got the kill without assist...
2020-07-01 03:44
2020-07-01 03:21
#103
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Brazil Manella10 
if u dont know, i tell u ------->> FALLEN PROVE HIMSELF IN LAN A LOT OF TIMES /Closed
2020-07-01 03:59
2020-07-01 04:02
#330
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Brazil Manella10 
not finding edward lol
2020-07-02 02:50
why the fuck is his intro so fucking loud
2020-07-01 04:00
rofl op you ok?
2020-07-01 03:21
#22
autist | 
Finland vapaaxx 
neither of these clips are suspicious if you are even somewhat decent at the game and have good gamesense. stop fucking crying because your washed up team got beaten by na.
2020-07-01 03:23
play 2nd clip in 0,25 speed, looks fishy but i guess its just luck.... or maybe not ? idk
2020-07-01 03:44
#36
daps | 
United States wtcce4 
you do know pro teams actively talk together and use common sense, unlike what you see in your silver 2 mm games
2020-07-01 03:29
#41
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Brazil Triarii 
broh stop pls normal clip
2020-07-01 03:31
idk guys... maybe vanity tell him that C0M was there 😳😳
2020-07-01 03:32
+1 to comment +10000000 to name
2020-07-01 04:02
thx #EdwardComeback
2020-07-01 05:16
#45
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Norway nunz1o 
>dude he saw him on the radar XD >dude vanity told him the info >crosshair insta locks on the players head muh spam
2020-07-01 03:33
#46
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Argentina SirPatronia 
Both clips are disgusting... the 2nd clip shows obvious AIMLOCKING...very obvious, i dont know what are VALVE waiting for...or at least the tournament directors
2020-07-01 03:34
As long as white knighs defends him, valve will do nothing, they dont want to end a innocent american kid dream LOL
2020-07-01 03:36
#56
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Denmark Treogtredive 
Yes, we defend him because the "evidence" you show us is SHIT. Hes not even aimlocking in the "2nd clip". LMFAO
2020-07-01 03:37
Thanks for proving my point.
2020-07-01 03:39
#66
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Denmark Treogtredive 
Proving what point? You are attacking Leaf with "aImLoCk ClIpS" which shows nothing and i am laughing at you.
2020-07-01 03:40
Discussing his clips = attacking him lol
2020-07-01 03:42
#69
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Denmark Treogtredive 
Discussing....so...is that what the Brazilians on HLTV is doing? lol.
2020-07-01 03:43
Yeah? Explain how im attacking him please knight.
2020-07-01 03:46
#85
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Denmark Treogtredive 
"You are attacking" does not mean "xaxexixoxu is attacking". I mean "You" as in a group. EDIT: Also "Knight?" Its white knight, and how am i a whiteknight? Because i am standing up for a child that has gotten death threats? Nice one dude.
2020-07-01 03:49
Then stfu and come to me with a plausible reason why the fuck this guy is a "coincidence" clips machine, i want to believe hes legic but i cant. In fact im starting to not believe on the scene in general at this point.
2020-07-01 03:51
#94
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Denmark Treogtredive 
Why should i? Hes not cheating and you delusional Brazilians doesnt realize that. Just because he clapped MIBR in that match you have harassed him for almost 2 weeks. Pathetic.
2020-07-01 03:53
#145
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Brazil chuckdam 
Grimm did worse to us and we said he's a genious. No point in what you've said. Leaf is suffering because he have too many fishy clips and most of us is not dumb enough to think just because the anticheat didn't got it then it's legit. Also, I personally don't believe in coincidences, not at that level. 1 or 2 clips in one game, ok, but that many... can't find reasonable explanation for that, so, I'm calling him a cheater. Not defending any punishment until now tough, that's reserved for when we prove 100% he's cheating.
2020-07-01 04:52
#53
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Denmark Treogtredive 
AHAHAHAHAHA 0/8.
2020-07-01 03:36
#49
Jamppi | 
Other Ame^v^ 
flag checkouts
2020-07-01 03:35
can't believe there's people who supports this guy
2020-07-01 03:36
#55
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CIS cardison 
this has to be bait..
2020-07-01 03:37
#57
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Poland KozkowskyPL 
In 1st clip he just checked sandwitch ?
2020-07-01 03:37
clips.twitch.tv/FragileAmazingBeefSSSsss just a normal flusha's clip from 2016 xDDDD cebolão ativado
2020-07-01 03:37
#59
kNgV- | 
Europe imNTX 
LMAO LOOK AT THIS KID THIS FIRST CLIP IS... I DONT EVEN KNOW WHAT A BASTARD
2020-07-01 03:37
#257
HUNDEN | 
Iceland GranMa 
Yeah, you probably dont even know.
2020-07-01 16:03
Of course that tranny keiti has an overly sexualized anime picture
2020-07-01 03:38
Ironic coming from japan
2020-07-01 04:51
What does that have to do with trannies and their unhealthy obsession with anime?
2020-07-01 05:19
#64
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Romania Anonym20 
you guys must be trolling or something i don't even get how you find that weird
2020-07-01 03:40
#142
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Germany vchaim 
insta lock into the head through the wall, shooting faster than vanity himself 2nd clip crosshair "coincidentely" stopping at a players head through wall lul
2020-07-01 04:42
#222
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Romania Anonym20 
first clip, he checked sandwich and it happened that the ct was ivy area second clip, he swipe his mouse to check main corner, players with low sens or small mousepad has to swipe more then one time the mouse if we are talking about 90 degree angle or more, if you watch some pro demos you would say that 80% or pros are using wallhack, they react very fast to any info they get.
2020-07-01 14:50
but the problem that i find with that argument is that some of the flicks don't make sense for a player with low sense. thats the only thing that makes me wonder.
2020-07-01 17:47
this clip is absolutely normal, first guy passed info. C'mon, it's becoming annoying talk about it, can we just move on?
2020-07-01 03:40
#67
Jamppi | 
Other Ame^v^ 
BR brains LULW
2020-07-01 03:41
#70
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Brazil Arishock 
dude can't you fucking move on? MIBR year is over, nothing will be done, stop crying.
2020-07-01 03:43
idc about mibr just hate cheaters that are trying to ruin the game
2020-07-01 03:46
You guys are super young... Flusha had tons of this "clips" , just like shox and it was never proved they were cheating. Looking at the many leaf clips that have been posted here lately I still don't see anything out of the ordinary, just the same old shit as always..
2020-07-01 03:44
Flusha and shox clips was 1 here, one there, not every single one on one week.
2020-07-01 03:48
So you proved you are newcomer just by saying that lmao
2020-07-01 16:07
i remember well enough, flusha clips was spaced between tournaments, not all on 2-3 matches.
2020-07-01 17:21
shox clips are much fewer than flusha clips also.
2020-07-01 17:22
lol you dont know
2020-07-01 17:16
lmao you clearly werent around in 2016, it was 10 clips every game from each of these guys
2020-07-03 14:10
you wasnt around, in 2016 the amount of clips from them was low. people was already saying they was legit. their peak on these clips was in 2014-2015.
2020-07-03 15:27
lol i wasnt around in 2016. damn that must have been a really weird dream then, it seemed so real at the time.
2020-07-03 15:29
shox and flusha both aimlock 10 times every game in 2016. every game. watch one random demo and you will see.
2020-07-03 15:29
i do think they cheated but the peak for their witch hunt was 2014-2015 mostly flusha, then he stopped a bit in 2016. shox had some on 2016 but it was not even on every game.
2020-07-03 15:35
flusha never stopped, he just changed his config a bit to be less extremely blatant
2020-07-03 15:37
funny that now days they barely have any "lifting" moment.
2020-07-03 15:42
if not baiting then youre an actual moron
2020-07-01 03:45
#76
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Europe RiflerDash 
OMG SUSPISIOES CLIIIIP I GO SEND KILL THRET TO HIM AND TEAM RIGHT NOW FAKING CHETERS! OMG WAT FAK MAN! FAK CHETER BEACH! WE KILL HIM NOW FAK HIM! MADDER FAKKER!
2020-07-01 03:46
Can we just ban all brazilians? thx!
2020-07-01 03:47
there's nothing suspicious about these clips please never talk again /closed
2020-07-01 03:47
#88
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Denmark Treogtredive 
/open +1 bro /close
2020-07-01 03:49
#121
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Canada louna1238 
/open +1 /close
2020-07-01 04:13
in this thread: cheaters giving each other +1 for saying cheating doesnt exist
2020-07-03 14:09
#82
pava | 
Europe Raco_br 
those clips are nothing
2020-07-01 03:50
#87
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Denmark Treogtredive 
+1
2020-07-01 03:49
No matter if he shows up on minimap or teammate calls it, it's inhuman reaction to perfectly align the sight on the enemy so perfectly so quickly. Sometimes you get lucky but as there's so many clips of this guy makes it highly suspicious. Can't think of any other pro player where you could come up with as many fishy clips in matter of like one year as this guy has produced in matter of a month or two. How do the naysayers explain those two points?
2020-07-01 03:50
#91
pava | 
Europe Raco_br 
if you download any clip of CS 1.6 which there were a lot of wallbaging you would see many shots like that, I dont think the first clip is suspicious but the second one is kinda. However I still think they cheated agaisnt mibr and teamone. Maybe they are still cheating but maybe someone configurate their cheating to get less obvius
2020-07-01 03:53
i dont think any other pro has been so heavily scrutinized like this in recent memory, neither of these are suspicious, don't underestimate the ability of cs pros...
2020-07-01 03:52
I watch like 95% of tournaments where at least one top-10 team plays, can't recognise seeing anyone doing stuff like this in the leaf clips. You get suspicious xhair placement at times sure but quickly dragging and stopping perfectly on the player I barely ever remember happening, about 3 times a year or so maybe but that also from 3 different players which I'd put down to randomness which occurs at times but leaf does it a lot of times. This to me looks like an aimbot that is coded to operate within allowed specs to not catch a VAC ban. Didn't the source code get leaked a little while ago? Would be easy for hackers to perfect aimbots to operate more according to game mechanics if they know exactly how it's coded.
2020-07-01 04:01
the clips vs mibr/to were sus as fuck, but these just arent i see pros lock/kinda lock on to people trough walls all the time, cus shit just happens, neither of these clips are at all suspect
2020-07-01 04:02
sorry but stuff like the 2nd clip in the OP of this thread, locking on to ppl behind the wall in A main there is something literally every A site player in top50 teams does on train. swedes, danes, brazilians, americans, everyone locks through that wall lol. its bingelabangable so the cheat activates through it. pretty good spot to pay attention to. you seriously wont believe how often ppl aim exactly at an enemt through it and stop their crosshair and then dont spam because they know it would be too blatant so they just use it for info.
2020-07-03 14:09
#140
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North America joeS 
"let me just shoot thru the wall with my cheats on so you guys can laugh that im unbanned" - leaf you br fans are ACTUALLY idiots
2020-07-01 04:32
Lmao so you want me to believe this guy has inhuman reactions where he can react instantly with radar and know exactly where the enemy is just looking at the radar but he doesn't know that you can't wallbang this with AK ? the fucker just hit his aimlock key.
2020-07-01 10:10
#86
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Bulgaria ohmeingutness 
just stfu
2020-07-01 03:49
lmao how can a single player have that many clips.
2020-07-01 03:53
because people clip everything he does. You could easily find suspicous clips about the other pros but everyone is focused on leaf
2020-07-01 15:06
ok what if you do that... what if you pick zywoo or s1mple and every game you try to clip as many "fishy" clips that you can. maybe if you find that many you could counter the allegations. just a thought
2020-07-01 17:52
people clip everything he does because he keeps cheating, just like with flusha in 2015.
2020-07-03 14:07
#96
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Faroe Islands juStTs 
he's obviously cheating at the first clip, people that don't recognise it are literally random cheating defenders
2020-07-01 03:53
I guess you've never used a radar lol
2020-07-01 04:00
#113
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Faroe Islands juStTs 
There's a difference between having a radar and locking your aim instantly where the enemy is, you should understand that
2020-07-01 04:03
If the guy is standing in a wideopen area - sure. But if he's right behind the wall that is very often wallbanged - I dont see anything unsual about that. People are getting wallbanged in con, window or bench on mirage literally every second round, for example. Noone ever is surprised.
2020-07-01 04:11
#123
BnTeT | 
Indonesia lukerey 
I doubt you play the game more than 100hours. Please come back after get your mm rank bro. You're so dumb.
2020-07-01 04:15
#162
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Faroe Islands juStTs 
Yeah, less than 2k hours and I've got global elite & faceitlvl 10. OF COURSE, I'm really dumb.
2020-07-01 09:54
#207
BnTeT | 
Indonesia lukerey 
where did you buy that account bro?
2020-07-01 13:26
#218
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Australia |bruh| 
You are kinda fucking dumb doe 😳
2020-07-01 14:39
bro now all from this guy is cheat, ksajdksajkdjasdasjkosdjaskldjsakldjklas lul
2020-07-01 03:54
People are 100% just gonna close their eyes and pretend like they don't see any suspicious clips because they hate Brazilians. I think Brazilians just need to move on and accept this for now. I think people will start to suspect cheats once Leaf starts doing this against major European teams.
2020-07-01 03:56
+1 we dont care if people hate us, they would do no matter what anyway.
2020-07-01 04:29
if you guys are actually serious about this cheating thing then you should clean up your own scene first. just like in EU and NA all your teams are cheating
2020-07-03 14:06
true and also there are alot of innocent ppl who thinks a cheater is that guy wallhacking searching and following enemys through the walls or some1 with aimbot in ragemode, they dont understand all the others features such as trigger, aimlock... and you can change values to make it as legit as possible
2020-07-01 19:31
Are all brazilian casters this stupid?
2020-07-01 03:59
#192
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Canada sodai 
You wont like the answer
2020-07-01 10:21
#122
BnTeT | 
Indonesia lukerey 
This kind of thread isnt about leaf cheating or not anymore. They just still can't move on how mibr lose the game against chaos. Glad to see some Brazilian getting tired too of this kind of thread. At least some of them have brain and know how to behave. This is pathetic.
2020-07-01 04:13
+11111111 they can’t stand seeing their once legendary team go from back to back major winners to losing to na mdl teams LMFAO
2020-07-01 04:21
Lol mibr is trash losing since 2018, why would we care just now?
2020-07-01 04:24
#149
Xyp9x | 
Russia Ypp1 
So why are you hating this leaf guy so much?? He isn`t cheating for sure.
2020-07-01 04:58
he clearly is
2020-07-03 14:05
The only thing that caught my attention in these clips is the small aim adjustment "he makes" in clip 1 at 6 seconds (in the enemy hidden next to the wagons). This clip by itself is nothing, but added to collection he has, you can see the pattern. This guy is using aimlock to find enemies through walls.
2020-07-01 04:27
#150
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Brazil chuckdam 
Look the seccond clip, my consagrated. The "ajustment" is even more blatant. The circle movements to disguise the flick... that's nasty af!
2020-07-01 04:59
Indeed. Not the first time I see him going for that exact same wall spot.
2020-07-01 05:12
every a site player in top50 teams locks on in that spot, from flusha to fallen
2020-07-03 14:05
Lmao so you want me to believe this guy has inhuman reactions where he can react instantly with radar and know exactly where the enemy is just looking at the radar but he doesn't know that you can't wallbang this with AK ? the fucker just hit his aimlock key.
2020-07-01 04:54
+1
2020-07-01 10:10
Yeah, it's very simple. If a pro was this good he would know that you can't wallbang there.
2020-07-01 17:57
you can though
2020-07-03 14:04
#148
Xyp9x | 
Russia Ypp1 
He just got the info from mate and tryed to make VAC :D
2020-07-01 04:57
bro, to post this here, this guy is just going to say shit, or the sheet has 10 suspicious clips in 2 weeks, they keep saying that everything is normal, this can be envy because this leaf is very scolded. omegalul
2020-07-01 05:45
You don't care about looking like absolute morons, right?
2020-07-01 09:59
do you?
2020-07-03 14:04
#164
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Lithuania I_eat_kebabs 
CRY IS FREE
2020-07-01 10:04
#166
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Portugal dracø 
at least chaos's marketability will increase af with this retarded witch hunt, they are getting much more viewership than they would normally LUL
2020-07-01 10:06
#167
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Poland Dorocek 
I mean people believing he has cheats because he wallbangs someone is so fucking stupid. "Oh I can get banned if they spot my cheats, better shoot enemies through the wall lol"
2020-07-01 10:08
the thing is that he acted exactly the same way has he did in the mid mirage clip. it seems that when he recieves info of a player in a wallbangable area he just locks and tries to wallbang. and if you see he aims to the head but he misses always because of the deviation.
2020-07-01 17:59
implying there is actually any chance of him getting banned lol he could rat out his whole org and team and then dominos could start falling. what will happen is same as what happened with tenz, and what astralis did with kjaerbye. he is too blatant, so they will just drop hm quietly and he will continue to cheat in lower tier.
2020-07-03 14:03
Lmao so you want me to believe this guy has inhuman reactions where he can react instantly with radar and know exactly where the enemy is just looking at the radar but he doesn't know that you can't wallbang this with AK ? the fucker just hit his aimlock key.
2020-07-01 10:10
you can bang it with ak, it just does like 5 damage on a headshot if you are shooting straight at the wall, at an angle it will do 0, i have seen ppl do damage through it with ak
2020-07-03 14:01
#178
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Myanmar Guzhas 
brazil brain :dd newbies would call all of that cheats, play a bit more to understand what skillfull pre-fires and angles are:D
2020-07-01 10:12
brazil strikes again
2020-07-01 10:12
you guys are so dumb lol
2020-07-01 10:15
#185
Jamppi | 
Other Ame^v^ 
xD BR brains
2020-07-01 10:19
#188
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Japan eternaL_ 
I mean people have already shown that he clearly had info... but realistically if you’re currently under the radar for cheating why on earth would you shoot someone blatantly through the wall with hacks? That’s literally the same as confessing you cheated lol
2020-07-01 10:18
Yeah, if he is cheating it's a dumb move, if not dumb as well. LUL
2020-07-01 17:59
can we get all the Brazilians deluded silver muppet banned?
2020-07-01 10:18
#190
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Europe twitchy_ 
1st one is obvious wallbang if he knows someone is behind, anyone further than mge or something would try it. 2nd one doesn't even lock, so I don't know what we have to see there. By the way, if the kid ever cheated, he's not gonna cheat right now knowing everyone is gonna watch his clips at 0,25x, I mean, it's fucking obvious, if you really think he was cheating you should be watching streams before MIBR game, not after.
2020-07-01 10:19
why would he stop, its not like anyone from a first world country ever gets banned in this corrupt scene
2020-07-03 14:00
#389
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Europe twitchy_ 
I guess he have more than 10iq and the normal behavior is stop now and restart in some weeks after all the brazilians have a new victim to blame mibr loses.
2020-07-03 14:40
First clip sus alright but there is not really anything in 2nd clip
2020-07-01 10:19
:DDD DELUSIONAL_LEAF_HATERS
2020-07-01 10:21
leave the kid alone ffs
2020-07-01 10:29
#198
ZywOo | 
India babyno$ 
Yeah what a great logic right? Person will continue to blatant cheat when he knows the whole world got eyes on him and especially after receiving death threats.
2020-07-01 10:32
#242
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Brazil rafazaba 
But if he stops everybody will ask: why he just stopped with all those clips from day to night
2020-07-01 15:12
stopped lifting his mouse
2020-07-03 14:00
#199
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Estonia kapsXD 
brazil smol brain
2020-07-01 10:42
#200
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Estonia kapsXD 
leave the kid alone jesus fuck
2020-07-01 10:42
Valve need kick brazil teams
2020-07-01 10:48
Bro, please go to a mental health institution. It's already 8 days since MIBR losing from underdog team like Chaos and leaf have a game of 2020.
2020-07-01 10:51
#203
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Finland (RANE) 
why is this guy still allowed to play in tournaments
2020-07-01 10:53
#213
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Poland mlodzier 
I thought finns are smart......
2020-07-01 14:23
#216
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Finland (RANE) 
I mean the guy is hacking
2020-07-01 14:36
#261
HUNDEN | 
Iceland GranMa 
Jamppi was hacking.. Not this guy
2020-07-01 16:09
#270
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Poland mlodzier 
This guy is literally not that good to call him a cheater, I thought only brazilians are so biased after that MIBR's loss but im afraid i was wrong
2020-07-01 17:05
#273
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Finland (RANE) 
have you seen the other clips or are you just that lazy to draw conclusions based on nothing.
2020-07-01 17:18
#286
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Poland mlodzier 
Dude i saw like billions of this clips and surely that what is called fishy for me is like luck that he had this game. Also 3v1 postplant situation on A at Overpass was just pure calculation, if you staying like this in the corner and you hear they coming you are aware that none is on your back and you had people on bomb, long and bank to clear it up. People 2-3 months ago were praising him and surely steel wouldnt play with cheater but some people doesnt realize someone can had a game of the life
2020-07-01 17:41
#308
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Finland (RANE) 
those are just some clips but the clips where he's aim jumps to another unsprayaple position and still continues to fire are the clips that we all know and love
2020-07-01 18:56
If Mibr is losing, maybe the reason for it isn't opponent cheating. Mibr is just shit....
2020-07-01 10:59
CRY IS FREE AHHAHAHAHA
2020-07-01 14:22
#212
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Norway thenewdagon 
brazilians have lost their minds
2020-07-01 14:22
Wouldn't it be stupid af to keep cheating on the middle of the shitstorm that's going on? 🤣
2020-07-01 14:24
#215
ropz | 
Croatia KrenZZie 
First clip is normal, you can wallbang that and he knew he was there, 2nd one seems like a weaponswitch info-lock to me
2020-07-01 14:26
Lol, how is it normal to fucking flick so fast on somebodies head through the wall? Even if he knew, you just dont do that + too many clips already. I've watched so many games and this is not normal.
2020-07-01 14:52
also you do shit damage through that wall and he could just strafe and help his teammate
2020-07-03 13:59
#221
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Europe DeaTHZZEU 
in Bulgaria we say "neshto tuka neshto neshto"
2020-07-01 14:45
the truth is, leaf and co are cheating, everybody here knows it, its impossible for a player to lock in the other players head behind the wall that much in a match BY PIXEL and that fast. But everybody will defend the cheaters, first because its happening against a Brazilian team who f''ed american and European teams for years, second because it messed with their chances to go to the major. But hear that, we dont give a fu** about your pet cheaters, fallen and co leaved our country and conquered everything in yours, and when LAN comes back you will have to swallow their shots again. Must be tough :)
2020-07-01 14:53
#226
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Europe bestest_team 
Stop playing the victim card, people are only hating on mibr for the stupid decisions they've made lmao.
2020-07-01 14:56
You are so right about everything man. The death threats are too much but he's clearly cheating and supposed to be banned. Doesn't matter that he's 16 yo, why would you defend him against legends of this game who have entertained us longer than this leaf guy has lived.
2020-07-01 15:05
the legends are all cheating too
2020-07-03 13:58
#363
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Brazil JackJackJack 
+1 TY
2020-07-03 14:03
lg/sk/mibr cheated their balls off too when they were winning, just like every eu and na team
2020-07-03 13:59
I mean his teammate saw him so he clearly showed up on minimap and its a commonly wallbanged wall so nt silver second is what?
2020-07-01 14:57
second is him locking to the enemy model because he is behind a bangable wall instead of aiming at a main in one movement like everyone who is above MGE would be able to do there
2020-07-03 13:57
Remember these? youtube.com/watch?time_continue=201&v=PI.. This is the same as the second one. It happens to everyone when you play a lot, you of course get suspicious demos. The first one, he sees through radar/comms or if you're talking about the earlier part he is clearly checking the green train sandwich/olof area.
2020-07-01 15:06
yes i remember, this spot on the wall on train is a very popular spot for accidental aimlocks through walls because it is bingelebangable just like that spot from cache CT to B main where flusha got busted. almost every a site player on train in top50 teams aimlocks through that wall regularly. and then they dont spam it because it would be too blatant. because they all cheat. leaf cheats. every other NA player cheats. every BR and EU player too.
2020-07-03 13:56
Well, tbh, either they all cheat (which I personally believe they don't) or none of them cheat. I don't think there is enough evidence for them all cheating and also the fact that none of them ever got leaked for it is just highly unlikely. Like kqly got banned and he didn't say that all pros were cheating.
2020-07-03 18:48
#238
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Sweden GeT_CoRrEcT 
They aren’t locks though.
2020-07-01 15:07
yes he is using something amost fully automated, all he has to do is move his mouse around in general direction of the enemy and press movement buttons and LMB and it does everything else same shit tenz was using
2020-07-03 13:55
#240
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Denmark ma3rsk 
LOL nothing wrong with neither clips. Try downloading your own demo, put on x-ray. Youll be surprised how often you clear normal angles but because you (as a spectator) can see the opponent, it looks fishy.
2020-07-01 15:10
#243
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Spain Lunschu(r) 
Cheaaaaaaaater , dont care if he´s 16 or 76 , someone needs to ban him ASAP
2020-07-01 15:13
#245
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Brazil LenonBerg 
anyone who believes that the leaf is not cheating is very foolish. He doesn't even know how to disguise, he could shoot in the enemy's side and then in the head, but he went straight in the head.
2020-07-01 15:31
No grown up man loses sleep over if a player of his favourite esports is cheating. Generally speaking, when shady clips are posted, people lose their minds because "NOT IN MY HOBBY!!!!!111"
2020-07-01 15:44
okay so you are content to just watch these hvh matches and watch fat cheating cunts like jw and flusha and coldzera walk away with millions that they only get because they press the aimbot button more often? if you genuinely like cs as a hobby, you should care. the quality of the games has gone down rapidly ever since flusha didnt get banned and everyone and their grandma started using his cheat.
2020-07-03 13:53
he saw him on the radar, why would he cheat when called out like this from brazillians grow up mens
2020-07-01 15:46
because he literally cant play without it
2020-07-03 13:52
nt bra71l
2020-07-03 14:11
nt fan of random 16yo cheater faze picked up most recently
2020-07-03 14:13
"cheater" lmao hes a bot
2020-07-03 14:44
since when are those 2 things mutually exclusive?
2020-07-03 14:45
since when you asked
2020-07-03 14:47
#253
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Poland iDRYTOWEL 
imagine forsaken didnt get banned looking at his clips, when hes not banned would u protect him too? its obvious kids using some shit, just like flusha and others used to
2020-07-01 15:58
Yes ofc, go back to cleaning toilets now
2020-07-01 17:20
#279
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Poland iDRYTOWEL 
Reported, you're so racist it doesnt bother me but you dont answer to show me a logical argument, u just answer to hate me
2020-07-01 17:24
#254
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Russia lemuig 
Even I have tried that shit what the first clip shows its not cheating Lmao Nt BRA71L
2020-07-01 15:58
hes gonna hvh the whole server
2020-07-01 16:04
please, thats been happening every game for at least 5 years
2020-07-03 13:51
legit
2020-07-01 16:18
#268
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Sweden Emmanu3liY 
first clip he might have seen mini map i guess?
2020-07-01 16:58
#269
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Sweden Emmanu3liY 
second clip is nothing
2020-07-01 16:59
holy shit some people are retarded imagine calling cheats because of these 2 clips LMFAO
2020-07-01 17:22
check the other 20 clips then
2020-07-01 17:31
the other 20 clips are also nothing at all, its just a witchhunt and you guys think any clip where he moves his crosshair over a guy through a wall is suspicious
2020-07-01 17:32
nt germany, he is chiting
2020-07-03 13:51
#280
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Poland Hanse 
These clips may look suspicious only for silvers
2020-07-01 17:25
nt silver
2020-07-03 13:50
#382
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Poland Hanse 
nt Gaules, go and cry me a river
2020-07-03 14:26
nt hansel go fuck ur sister in a sugarbread cottage
2020-07-03 14:29
#386
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Poland Hanse 
2020-07-03 14:33
at least you got taste in music i guess but im missing the point
2020-07-03 14:34
#281
Magisk | 
Romania ryuu_ 
you're probably baiting, you can't be this delusional to think that this clips are suspicious.
2020-07-01 17:26
They unironically think that this is suspicious twitter.com/MemesMIBR/status/12781316882..
2020-07-01 17:33
theres other 20 clips u can have fun with
2020-07-01 17:35
#287
Magisk | 
Romania ryuu_ 
I saw some suspicious clips from him but these 2 are not suspicious at all.
2020-07-01 17:41
if you think this isnt suspicious you shouldnt be using ryu's name
2020-07-03 13:50
ok
2020-07-01 17:42
#292
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Portugal CrappyJayPee 
lmao the second clip...
2020-07-01 17:49
#294
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Portugal ByeTeR 
first clip is normal, he's xair was on sandwich but the second one not so much, but he is innocent until valve does something
2020-07-01 17:52
he is still clearly cheating even if no ban, you dont need permission from gaben to have eyes and a brain.
2020-07-03 13:50
Give this guy a break let him play.
2020-07-01 18:00
leave him alone, i get that you are salty bcs your favorite team sucks ass but you know watching every leaf game trying so hard to find anything suspicious is fucking pathetic.
2020-07-01 18:01
#309
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Finland Rygnyr 
What about these?
2020-07-01 19:06
back to reddit
2020-07-03 13:49
#310
MICHU | 
Poland theven 
what's suspicious here?
2020-07-01 19:09
your lack of brain
2020-07-03 13:49
#320
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Brunei cyLoL 
Yet another br men that think leaf cheater cuz he better than all them and made fallen look like silver 1
2020-07-01 19:49
wtf 0/8 bait
2020-07-01 19:54
#323
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Brazil Goecker 
the 2nd clip man... he just lock the aim in the guy in such a retarded angle and the guy even is behind the wall wtf man
2020-07-01 20:01
he started shooting after his mate spotted him tho.......
2020-07-01 20:07
#327
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Brazil Goecker 
It's not the one I'm talking about
2020-07-01 21:36
lol just noticed it.. i mean sry m8 but this is probably one of the most unspectacular clips ive ever seen therefore i didnt even think u could mean this one lol
2020-07-01 22:50
its a very strange angle where you would never aim if you can get peeked from main at that moment unless you are using aimbot to find ppl through walls leaf is far from the only pro player to constantly stop on enemies through walls, they all do it, but he is very new and very blatant.
2020-07-03 13:49
lmao are u serious? the only thig he did there was aiming at main, not everyone is playing 1000 sens like u mate lol
2020-07-03 15:09
yes he just lifted his mouse and it happened to stop on enemy through a wall again, he is probably a bastard son of flusha
2020-07-03 15:10
hahaha, i mean there are probably cheaters in the proscene who knows but why do u guys only look for "aimlocks" all the time? as if pros had to use cheats of this ridiculoulsy obv kind
2020-07-03 15:17
they dont need to, but this is clearly what theyre using for the past 5 years, and flusha got away with it so why would anyone use anything less obvious?
2020-07-03 15:20
well u use less obv cheats because they are less obv i guess 😅😅
2020-07-03 15:21
but why bother if you wont get banned anyway
2020-07-03 15:22
that spot behind the metal wall in A main on train is EXTREMELY common aimlock spot, you can find clips of literally every A site player in top50 teams locking on to ppl through that wall for info and then not spamming it because it would be too blatant. flusha fucking loves that wall.
2020-07-03 13:47
u probably just should stop watching csgo if u aee that hard brainfucked by it
2020-07-03 15:20
yes i will let these cheating idiots influence my life decisions and what hobbies i have
2020-07-03 15:22
are u flatearther?
2020-07-03 15:26
of course not, i only believe in good conspiracy theories not the shitty ones
2020-07-03 15:26
i see, nothing more exciting than aimlocks
2020-07-03 15:29
its a pretty good conspiracy theory, i mean all it requires is for the players to cheat and know that everyone else is cheating and know that they cant get anything by talking about it except getting fired and losing their sponsorships and streaming deals, same goes for all the casters, and all the TOs and valve and teams need to do is look the other way and have plausible deniability and let niko plug in usb drives on stage: youtu.be/JyDGFSBsxLE?t=261 show me a better conspiracy than this, i'll wait.
2020-07-03 15:32
as i said, u agree that probably there are cheaters. it is ridiculous tho that every little crosshair trough wall moment is commented like that by some silver
2020-07-03 15:35
well thats what you get when valve looks the other way for 5 fucking years while theres clearly fishy shit going on, blame gaben
2020-07-03 15:36
srsly why are u watching it then even. i wouldnt have fun like that. enjoy life and dont stress urself with such unimportant shit mate 👍🏻
2020-07-03 15:52
holy fuck you delusional brazilians stop this witchhunt, your team lost get over it :D
2020-07-01 20:10
they lost and this kid is blatant. its okay to call someone out if hes being this blatant bro. or do you believe csgo is the only game in history of mankind where ppl wouldnt cheat for money?
2020-07-03 13:46
OMG First clip: he saw him on the radar and tried to wallbang Second is just some random shit C'mon, I saw like 10 clips of leaf's "hacking" and none of it look fishy to me.
2020-07-03 13:58
#354
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Australia Yomenik 
BRAZIL STOP IT CHAOS WAS BETTER THAN MIBR
2020-07-03 13:57
No
2020-07-03 15:21
HLTV censoring 4,3,2,1.....
2020-07-03 14:01
#374
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United States LULW_KEKW 
Flag+flair...
2020-07-03 14:11
The more you post these, the more motivation I feel to watch all MIBR players in all their recent matches and post a full video of the "locks through wall". Main thing keeping me from doing it is that its a fucking waste of time, since it will not convince anyone, even if I find 10 min worth of locks.
2020-07-03 14:12
This is nothing, doesn't change that he did cheat vs mibr and team oNe of course.
2020-07-03 14:30
Imagine being bra71l and reveal to the world you don't know how you play csgo even at silver 1 level
2020-07-03 14:36
#420
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Portugal joaosenra 
The best player who ever touch this game i mean look to is game sense unreal the new ZywOo
2020-07-03 15:29
THIS WALL IS NOT WALL-BANGABLE BY AK-47 (and any pro should've know this, he tried to bang another non-bangable overpass wall too) /close
2020-07-03 15:46
Every Gold Nova+ knows it's only possible with Deagle I think, Scout, Autos and AWP. Jesus this kid is cheating and I hate MIBR and Brazils
2020-07-06 09:47
idiots thinking leaf is cheating haha lmao.. he got brains! his brain can calculate these kind of things in the game so fuck off with this bullshit
2020-07-03 16:25
#440
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Brazil STKill 
perfect argument..closed! HAHA he Got brains guys.. he got branis.. how any one though that before? genial...
2020-07-03 16:42
yes, seems like your brains are not enough developed to think about such things.
2020-07-03 16:48
#442
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Brazil STKill 
explain... please enlighten us with your so huge wizard....
2020-07-03 17:06
first learn to speak english, then study how human brains work.
2020-07-03 17:12
Leaf = Huge Brains
2020-07-03 17:56
all human brains are basically the same size, but the point is how to use ur brains.
2020-07-03 19:00
#438
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Finland hermion 
First clip he saw him in minimap second clip cant be aimlock because you dont lock on someone for fucking milliseconds
2020-07-03 16:28
cheats don't pro.
2020-07-03 17:08
#445
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Bulgaria untiltabl3 
salty bra71L ?
2020-07-03 17:34
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