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sAw top 30+?
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Portugal Fre1tasj 
I personally think that we can get even further and reach top 30 or even top 20 if we keep going like this. Our lineup is pretty good, of couse sometimes players dont performe well but i belive that we can make history on the portuguese cs. Imo this is the best portuguese lineup ever. What are your opinions on this?
2020-07-02 03:09
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i think that saw only plays well against riders and chokes against any other opponent
2020-07-02 03:13
#22
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Portugal Fre1tasj
I dont think so, sometimes they choke yes. But they've been performing very well this past months I mean, they won against vitality, lost 16-14 to ence (ngl , they choke a bit on that game), won against heretics after losing first map i belive 16-3, and won against Hard Legion .
2020-07-02 03:40
tbh they stand no change against top 20 teams, if a top #2 team can destroy 16-0 a top #7 team imagine what will happen to saw
2020-07-02 20:32
they just won to a top#2 team wdym
2020-07-03 01:05
who?
2020-07-03 01:09
vitality
2020-07-03 01:09
They we re not top 2 back then lul
2020-07-03 01:10
they are now, and the diference from that game to now is prob non existent
2020-07-03 01:37
oh wait i found the event at least saw got 10th place hltv.org/events/5205/blast-premier-sprin..
2020-07-03 01:41
tied with astralis and they got 9th. that was clearly a event to get experience and play tier 1 teams and it went nice
2020-07-03 01:43
"tied with astralis and they got 9th." who tf are you talking about? virtus pro?
2020-07-03 14:24
tied in points with astralis and got 9th because of round diference
2020-07-03 15:31
bro, the level of game now played in tier 2/3 is very balanced. and now that the only dominating team as changed key players even tier1 is super balanced. if tier 3 can win at tier 2 and tier 2 can win at tier 1 it's just normal that tier 3 will win games at tier 1 teams. but if a team can maintain consistency they reach top 20, maybe even further. Saw team as the capacity but it's not easy of course. there's so many good teams in the world
2020-07-03 08:41
They choked 2 maps in 6 months and both were against teams significantly ahead of them in the rankings
2020-07-02 20:26
#74
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Estonia babzkL
Meyern also fits in that catergory aswell 😎
2020-07-02 20:33
who?
2020-07-02 03:13
#10
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Portugal Charles220
the team that was on blast and won against vitality top 2 nowadays
2020-07-02 03:27
oh i remember, but i swear they beat vitality in a game that didnt matter + got rekt by everyone else no:D?
2020-07-02 04:15
#40
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Portugal Fre1tasj
It prob didn't mean to them but to us did, and a lot since we need experience playing against t1 and t2 teams, we lost 16-14 to ence too
2020-07-02 04:24
#54
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Portugal Charles220
I was answering to the who, I didn't said the game was important LMAO, but it actually was for us, the team status, and there confidance.
2020-07-02 20:21
Nono i don't mean to be rude i just said i mean i understand all underdogs take games very serious i wasn't rude:(
2020-07-02 23:04
nowadays but they were top 10 yet they played bo1 other CIS teams won against na vi and na vi was still top 1, and a team they lost against was top #54
2020-07-02 20:35
#3
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Peru Ra1zennnnn
maybe, they are playing very well, top 30 only if they win the MDL
2020-07-02 03:15
#11
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Portugal IuriGamer
They are not in mdl
2020-07-02 03:27
#109
JaCkz | 
Portugal eh_
yet
2020-07-03 01:13
#4
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Portugal S4ntoz25
They need to win the ESEA one but still i doubt they can reach top 30 right now. But overall i believe they will reach there at some point
2020-07-02 03:19
#5
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Yugoslavia RiggedShit
they will lose to nexus
2020-07-02 03:19
#6
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Portugal S4ntoz25
nahh
2020-07-02 03:20
ehehehe I hope u betted on nexus
2020-07-02 20:25
#70
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Switzerland noxer*
Lmao nice try fag
2020-07-02 20:32
top50 at best
2020-07-02 03:21
they are already top 50. #43 worldwide
2020-07-03 14:28
It's still weird for me to see a top PT roster without KillDream.
2020-07-02 03:21
ye,that guy has to be on the best PT team but oh well, maybe in the future -arki +killdream will be done. arki is a beast though
2020-07-02 03:40
#33
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Portugal he1zen
Not possible tbh. Killdream left Giants with this core for lack of commitment (I believe) so they won't be adding someone they kicked 1 year ago. If they ever change the lineup thats because they stop improving and if they decide to kick arki they will for sure add someone they haven't played. The only player I would like to see at arki's (even if I totally disagree with changes rn) position would be alex from movistar.
2020-07-02 04:00
"lack of commitment" yeap thats true
2020-07-02 04:01
wasnt only zelin that lacked comitment? well kill has problems with fox but he is good friends with rmn AIm and even mut so i guess that could be a possibility. but yea im against changes to, they are playing so solid rn
2020-07-02 04:37
#62
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Portugal DeviphZ
After arki they will need a talent, not another almost 30 year old, or this team will fail, although the team is good, it will be needed new blood in 2-3 years
2020-07-02 20:27
#9
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Brazil Triarii
Navi #1 Faze #4 Furia#6 BIG#7 Everything can happen on ONLINE era
2020-07-02 03:25
these guys are fucking animals on lan they all have better stats on lan (yes, that's right)
2020-07-02 03:34
and Astralis, Vitality, Na Vi, Liquit, G2, fnatic are gods on lan
2020-07-02 20:37
pls stop
2020-07-03 11:22
no
2020-07-03 16:25
"Our lineup is pretty good, of couse sometimes players dont performe well but i belive that we can make history on the portuguese cs." Yep if you want to compete in the upper upper top you should be consistent. Consistency is the key but I am sure when sAw find a new orga or a sponsor they will be in the top 20 IF they will be playing as so far, get some consistencyand not losing to faceit pug nexus lmao
2020-07-02 03:27
#13
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Portugal Leg_day2
they will lose and win games but at the moment they are playing very good, top 30 its not impossible but its very very hard, at least they would get more invites and make more points.
2020-07-02 03:29
#31
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Portugal Fre1tasj
True, with time and patience i belive we can get there
2020-07-02 03:46
they cant get top 30 because ZywOo is there to stop them
2020-07-02 20:40
#101
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Portugal Leg_day2
but they are friend of s1mple and s1mple>zywoo
2020-07-03 01:03
2020-07-03 01:04
stats are everything to measure a player's performance
2020-07-03 14:33
if they get alex they can easily become top10
2020-07-02 03:31
even if it were possible, it would not be a big improvement for the igl role tbh mutiris and alex are very similar, both high fragging igls and yes i know that steel is igling movistar atm
2020-07-02 03:39
#36
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Portugal he1zen
I dont believe changes would be good but alex is such a beast, I believe its the only iberic player I would put in sAw but the lineup is so well built that we cant ask for changes tbh
2020-07-02 04:03
ATM: havu is #30 with 120 points saw is #43 with 59 points you can see that there is still a mountain that they need to climb the top 30 will only happen if they play more international tournaments CONSTANTLY in to order to earn more points
2020-07-02 03:34
#29
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Portugal Fre1tasj
Yes! i belive we can do it. #sAwtouadar
2020-07-02 03:45
#35
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Portugal he1zen
That's true, they have to win something big or slowly climb to 100 pts
2020-07-02 04:01
indeed and they have 3 good chances ongoing/upcoming malta vibes, esea playoffs and nine to five step by step
2020-07-02 04:04
#59
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Portugal MCDOUG
+1 you know
2020-07-02 20:25
#17
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South Africa @FyreCS
I think Arki is my only concern, but I like the roster. Staddado my fav player on that team. Muteris finding form I've never seen before holy I do want Kustom to join though to replace Arki? Arki isnt igl right?
2020-07-02 03:36
#18
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Portugal Fre1tasj
No, arki isnt the igl. Mutiris is.
2020-07-02 03:38
#23
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South Africa @FyreCS
Is he really? I thought it was Just or Roman! That's insane for him to frag and call! I like RMN a lot
2020-07-02 03:40
#26
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Portugal Fre1tasj
I know dude! He is doing well and if he keeps developing its gonna be insane Yeah, RMN is a beast
2020-07-02 03:43
ye mut does it all, most valuable PT player for sure, any team that has him is the #1 in portugal
2020-07-02 05:07
yes mutiris is a really good aimer, used to be a entry now igl, and if you like this team, wait until lans come around, they will be even better
2020-07-03 08:16
No, igl is mutiris, but arki is like TACO or coldzera for faze, that does the boring positions, holding the B sites. Also he is very good in pistol and force rounds (best weapons usp, deagle and scout) . he is like a foundation. True that his numbers arent great but you need a foundation in the team. Having 5 star good aimers doesnt mean good team.
2020-07-02 03:40
#159
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South Africa @FyreCS
True, makes sense that they need a clutch/Taco type of player
2020-07-06 19:55
Arki is so underrated mens he is top 10 on the peninsula and top 5 spanish Intelligence, aim and play for the team. he is gold in his role for some reason movistar tried to sign him before signing steel
2020-07-02 03:43
#64
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Portugal S!im*
Kustom needs exp, he played with good players in offset but without any sucess.
2020-07-02 20:29
#158
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South Africa @FyreCS
Ah, I see, I hope he develops well
2020-07-06 19:54
Hard Legion is top 29 and Saw > Hard Legion so ofc they are
2020-07-02 03:39
gracias hermano estamos juntos tio
2020-07-02 03:54
#25
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Panama Big88daddy
2020-07-02 03:42
#28
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Portugal Fre1tasj
Your point? this team was created in the beginning of this year and they have been perfoming very well .
2020-07-02 03:44
sAw bestest player 2020 hltv.org/player/7821/sAw
2020-07-02 04:21
hahahaha you know he is on their steam team group?
2020-07-03 08:17
no Fox no top 30, sorry
2020-07-02 04:26
they had fox last year and it didnt work..
2020-07-02 04:46
he should go to movistar. and I'm being totally honest here
2020-07-02 05:30
True he is handsome like moviestar)
2020-07-02 05:49
Ok if Saw top 30.Nexus will be top 20?Nexus Saw 16 10
2020-07-02 05:16
#53
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Portugal Fre1tasj
Did nexus reach the blast spring groups? did they won against vitality, heretics, hard legion? you are making a statment without foundation.
2020-07-02 14:43
the lost against cream real betis yesterday xD for winners league or stuff like that so ahahahaha .. saying no more
2020-07-02 20:29
u got at blast because u had regional qualifieres lul
2020-07-03 14:32
+1 portuguese cs deserves the best after all it had been through perhaps we gonna see saw top15 i mean, ence went from nothing top major finalists, so who knows saw wont?
2020-07-02 05:35
yeah, let's just keep it real here please mate LMAO
2020-07-02 05:37
everybody came from nothing, therefore they can besides, who knows namibia doesnt get a professional on pro scene soon?
2020-07-02 13:30
#79
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Portugal MCDOUG
It's very difficult to compete with T1 and T2 teams, but sAw are growing well, the roster was made in January 2020, and they are already rank#43, they climbed their way trough ESEA Open directly to Advance, wrecking the likes of S2V, Giants, Sinners and Heretics, and now they have the chance of qualifying to ESEA MDL, all in 6/7 months. That is crazy. During this 6 months they've accomplished the following: - Master League Portugal - 1 Place - Orange Unity League - 1 Place - ESL Masters Espana - 2 Place - RTP Arena Cup Iberian Blast Showdown Qualification - 1 Place - ESEA Open -1 Place - Dreamhack Open Summer 2020 Iberian Qualifier: 1 Place - Dreamhack Summer 2020 Closed Qualifier: 3/4 Place (Lost to OG)
2020-07-02 20:39
+1 probably on the next qualifier, they are going to win against OG
2020-07-02 20:45
i never saw them before
2020-07-02 05:46
who the fuck is sAw ? HAVU igl ?
2020-07-02 13:31
#61
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Russia _VaLT_
no max top 40-45
2020-07-02 20:26
they will be out of that next monday, they are already top 43 and they have won hard legion and ex-smash this week.
2020-07-02 20:29
#67
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Russia _VaLT_
then max top 35
2020-07-02 20:31
#71
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Portugal 34itaNz
hahahahah if next week we win against stronger teams will you say max top 25?? we are talking about potencial here bro not current rank
2020-07-02 20:33
#66
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Philippines B3nk4i
I mean they won a series against vitality and thats it. Like i guess they can make top 30 but that of a bit of a stretch. I mean they don’t even have a spot in MDL. Like compared to other teams that are outside the top 30 like havu, endpoint and tyloo. I don’t really see Saw beating them. In the future when they have more experience i guess they can. I’m not familiar with the Portuguese scene so correct me if im wrong
2020-07-02 20:31
#73
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Portugal IuriGamer
rmn, mut and arki have tons of experience but stadodo and just not that much
2020-07-02 20:33
#75
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Switzerland noxer*
They will have a spot on mdl pretty soon
2020-07-02 20:34
#69
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Russia ImAmnesiac
PT is a pretty awesome fanbase, you deserve top 30 team tbh
2020-07-02 20:32
How is it an awesome fanbase? Cry like BRS when getting destroyed by known players (iM from nexus) - saying that he cheats etc? Also, deserve =/= have.. saw is nowhere near a top team
2020-07-02 20:33
#83
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Russia ImAmnesiac
Didn't saw any trash-talk before, overall they seem pretty friendly
2020-07-02 20:44
so if someone german flame us , i assume every german is toxic and trash? nice logic
2020-07-02 20:45
Are you stupid? Beating tier 12 Nexus doesnt mean anything
2020-07-03 08:05
I was just proving that Nexus lost to sAw and btw see our recent games :P
2020-07-03 10:22
Wins vs a ton of ESEA Advanced Teams - gj
2020-07-03 12:13
Vitality?Heretics?Movistar?Hard Legion?
2020-07-03 22:10
They are fluke team unfortunately
2020-07-02 20:36
#80
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Romania RunnerB0Y
I can't believe how some of you get that hyped about winning against nexus
2020-07-02 20:39
i get hyped when ZywOo best csgo player of all time destroy faze
2020-07-02 20:42
#84
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Romania RunnerB0Y
Last time when Faze lost to vitality, ZywOo had a 1.12 rating. Do you call this "destroyed"? Btw flair doesn't check out
2020-07-02 20:44
No my friend, i was talking about ALL TIME STATS when GodwOo played against faze )
2020-07-02 20:45
#91
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Romania RunnerB0Y
Ntnt but faze won against vitality 3 times while the frenchmen won against Faze just 2 times. In neither of the cases ZywOo didn't destroyed faze he played just decent and now i think i shut your mouth
2020-07-02 20:49
No my son, he literally destroyed faze, 3-3 btw, now i don t wanna talk about astralis actually obliterating faze 16-0 16-2
2020-07-02 20:52
#97
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Romania RunnerB0Y
We were talking about Vitality XD astralis has no room in this discussion and we all know they are the best team of all time
2020-07-02 20:57
We we re talking about ZywOo destroying faze, son
2020-07-03 14:27
#140
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Romania RunnerB0Y
You wanna continue??? XD When tf ZywOo destroyed FaZe??? Tell me, son
2020-07-03 15:10
#146
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Romania RunnerB0Y
You showed me just 2 games whete vita won... And in just one of them ZywOo played really good i mean do you call 1.30 rating "destroyed" cmon man
2020-07-03 21:44
#142
2020-07-03 21:47
this thread was done today at 2 am, it has nothing to do with u guys, but you are right in a way, tbh they get hyped about wining against everyone, makes no sense, they should just be happy for the team if u are boring and wanna laugh a bit, after saw plays here in hltv pay attetion to the threads, 100% sure that atleast 1 is about saw being the best team in the world and getting to top 30.
2020-07-02 20:54
#85
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Hungary subzera
top 20 eu, sure
2020-07-02 20:45
#88
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Portugal wEagle
agreed
2020-07-02 20:45
saw is in top 30 wtf, he plays in havu
2020-07-02 20:46
top 30, for sure. but I think they aren’t quite at the level to compete and win consistently against top 20 teams
2020-07-02 20:51
I agree, they still have to show more but i believe that they can, one day, be a more known team ;)
2020-07-02 20:54
solid top30 team already in my opinion, hope they can do much more, i really like underdogs to rise no matter where they are from, i remember 2 years ago, space soldiers went from nothing to top12, it was really amazing for me and turkish people.
2020-07-02 20:54
+1
2020-07-03 11:21
delusional fan
2020-07-02 20:58
Portuguese cs scene doesnt even exist and is dead since 2013 in this game, so that's it. (The same on spanish scene)
2020-07-02 20:59
And Polish scene which is dead since 2017
2020-07-03 01:29
dont even bother to answer dude
2020-07-03 08:24
I did not even care about polish scene cause i hated and still hate polish "pro" teams and even VP in the past ))
2020-07-03 11:13
you hate your own country? that's cringe bro
2020-07-03 11:18
Did he said he gate his country? You need your eyes checked, bet you re that type of 9y kid
2020-07-03 14:26
#108
JaCkz | 
Portugal eh_
this lineup has already made history, whatever comes after this is pure bonus
2020-07-03 01:11
what history?
2020-07-03 11:20
#130
JaCkz | 
Portugal eh_
best hltv rank a portuguese team has had. almost making it into dreamhack. yet to see if they're going to mdl. trash giants and movistar in finals. i mean you name it.
2020-07-03 11:22
thats not history, son
2020-07-03 14:25
That is history, not for an international point of view but for our point of view based on our current and previous progress... To us, this is excelent news because it means all the work made specially since 2018 was worth it and showing results... but we still have a long way to go to make internacional history. Tell me something, is it true that in Denmark there are csgo tournaments between colleges or even earlier academic courses? And that those tournaments get lots of teams participating?
2020-07-03 22:17
WRONG son
2020-07-03 22:17
#154
JaCkz | 
Portugal eh_
you're either baiting or have little to no IQ so ima leave u here
2020-07-03 23:54
why mad no scene?
2020-07-04 02:26
#157
JaCkz | 
Portugal eh_
ur mad
2020-07-04 06:06
i wouldn't take any of this as an achievement ever
2020-07-03 15:33
#152
JaCkz | 
Portugal eh_
Our scene never got too far. This is an achievement, not a goal. Our goal is to go as far as we can and make our country proud. Don't think sAw will stop here, they might be getting old but they can still go wild in the server.
2020-07-03 23:53
our? we? Nt. You aint in saw
2020-07-03 01:39
They trash , barelly can win 100# teams .
2020-07-03 01:43
what? where are you watching that
2020-07-03 08:25
I personally think that we can get even further and reach top 30 or even top 20 if we keep going like this. Our lineup is pretty good, of couse sometimes players dont performe well but i belive that we can make history on the portuguese cs. Imo this is the best portuguese lineup ever. What are your opinions on this?
2020-07-03 21:46
#153
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Portugal ProudT
que puta de chato dass
2020-07-03 23:54
They dont have The fire power needed to be a consistent top 30
2020-07-04 00:30
#160
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Russia _VaLT_
no.
2020-07-06 19:56
We'll see. Depends if they wanna take long vacations. If take like at most 1-2 weeks off they have good chance at jumping in front of teams who take like a month off
2020-07-06 19:59
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