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BIG and Vitality
NiKo | 
Croatia mimi031 
Both teams are 6 man team. Their coaches call more than 80% of their rounds, no wonder that they are winning online. Especially BIG who have gob b behind them. When the lan starts i doubt that they will play the same. Coaches even make mid round calls, u just dont see them talking on camera.
2020-07-02 17:48
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hahaha when LAN starts they will play bad not because of gob b who achieved nothing in CSGO but because syrsoN will be back to 0.9 rating
2020-07-02 17:50
#5
NiKo | 
Croatia mimi031
Gob B is one of the smartes players in cs. And the reason why german cs is relevant. He wasnt a good player individually but he is a great igl. I guess u are to young to know him from cs 1.6 days.
2020-07-02 17:52
there is nothing common between 1.6 and csgo
2020-07-02 17:53
lmao 0/8
2020-07-02 17:53
1.6 doesnt even have molotovs, that alone changes every single thing
2020-07-02 17:54
hahahahah biggest troll ever 7-1
2020-07-02 17:56
0-2
2020-07-02 18:01
0/8
2020-07-02 18:02
0-2 ;)
2020-07-02 18:05
#22 7-1 > 0-2
2020-07-02 18:12
i'd rather lose a soccer game than 2 world wars, sorry
2020-07-02 21:57
Sry but actually 1-1 in terms of WW Germany won WW1 aiganst Russia (they even admitted defeat), you can thank france, england etc. later. But anyway... first learn history and then write those comments lmao
2020-07-02 22:06
Did you win the entirety of ww1? No. Nt retard.
2020-07-02 22:07
No Chance Germany can't pull of a 1v9 sry mens
2020-07-03 00:15
But France can lul
2020-07-03 16:04
Only Zywoo can
2020-07-03 16:59
Napoleon Bonaparte
2020-07-03 17:29
Zywoo's father
2020-07-03 17:51
i'd rather lose 2 world wars than being a 3rd world country tbh
2020-07-02 22:17
well you are both so lol
2020-07-02 22:18
at least try to make your bait believable
2020-07-02 22:19
ok third worlder
2020-07-02 22:44
name checks out
2020-07-02 23:05
#98
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Denmark 4vs0
depends on how you look at it tbh, short term, yes, long term, no in 1000 years, no one will remember the status of Germany and Russia in 3020, but they will still remember 0-2
2020-07-03 15:44
and what u are doing? Typing letters in internet forum. Jesus people are stupid.
2020-07-02 22:18
but at least i didn't lose two world wars :)
2020-07-02 22:18
he didnt lose and u didnt win. Stop talking like u were alive when grown mans fighted each others. Think, mans age of u fighted and look at u what u are doing. MANCHILD.
2020-07-02 22:22
uhh pretty sure the soviet union won the war decisively at the end lol
2020-07-02 22:44
Who cares? U DID NOTHING u are just taking honor of something u never did.
2020-07-02 22:57
war is a great thing isnt it? why are u even talking here? by far the dumbest thing ive read to day and its late.
2020-07-02 22:50
bro you made fun of a Brazilian guy but then you can't handle the banter? weak
2020-07-02 22:55
Show me where I cant handle the banter? Are you brazilian or why do you care tell me? You are comparing war with a game? Are you ok? So again, the by far dumbest thing ive read today. weak
2020-07-02 23:17
you got triggered over me saying 0-2 and you're still crying jerman iq has really plummeted since the fall of the berlin wall it seems.
2020-07-02 23:56
no I didnt, show me the comment please. im also not crying just arguing with you and you cant handle the facts.
2020-07-03 00:10
Considering all the countries they were up against, germany proved to be much better at war than possibly any other country lol. Much better than russia by any standard.
2020-07-03 18:16
you are right, they should have won either war
2020-07-03 19:49
bad b8
2020-07-02 17:54
0/8. Ask ur boy fallen and u will see haha
2020-07-02 17:55
#43
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Europe BIG_BIGFAN
ok well do u know that the only reason br cs is even relevant or even exists? its because of 1.6
2020-07-02 22:20
+1 especially cogu who was at some point beat awper in 1.6.
2020-07-03 18:08
What did you expect from this guy bro. He is fan of TACO he criea when mibr loses. He is stupid mibr fan. He still cries cuz of 7-1
2020-07-03 13:43
Thats what happens when u try not to judge people right away lol. Well its not his fault mens)))
2020-07-03 13:45
2020-07-02 23:10
#99
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Denmark 4vs0
do you see the level of teams he is playing against there im not saying he'll be 0.9 but he certainly wont be anywhere near 1.2 on lan vs t1 teams
2020-07-03 15:46
proof
2020-07-02 17:50
#6
NiKo | 
Croatia mimi031
Proof is that they dont perform on lan, only Online...
2020-07-02 17:52
how can you say that if they only played 2 LANs with this line up and won both(lower tier but still), this is the first time they can actually play against good teams in this constellation. There's no way to predict how they will perform on LAN in the future espeacially with the confidence boost from these games. Just 0iq dud
2020-07-02 22:11
fact is that teams perform better online cuz they have can have their coach on teamspeak and he can basically 2nd igl.
2020-07-02 22:16
perfect example is FAZE KAPPA, but seriously it's been 4 months, everyone should have adepted by now. And if it's easier then it's easier for everyone so everyone should perform better not just one team, that's just stupid
2020-07-02 22:18
Coaches have big impact online. Since they are involved in every desicion. Ynk is one of the worst coaches. I would say he is almost as bad as adren from liquid.
2020-07-03 13:30
Maybe FaZe should also hire a coach then
2020-07-02 17:50
Not gonna happen since niko wants that his boy ynk gets pay checks. And actually thats fine for me since he is litteraly taking care of him.
2020-07-02 17:56
+1 let's see if tabsen can do the same without the coach
2020-07-02 17:52
+-1
2020-07-02 17:53
#9
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India iliketrains
Which team will win acc to you guys? Rooting for vitality :)
2020-07-02 17:53
This is a much bigger deal for BIG i think aswell, less so for Vitality who havent played top teams as much as BIG and just have other players stepping up more consistently. With BIG, gob b was a great igl for calling and i feel him being less involved on LAN will hinder BIG
2020-07-02 17:54
+1 i would like to see them perform on lan also. I like tabsen as a player and person he deserves more.
2020-07-02 18:05
Lel gobs impact is single coaching players in praccs he has 0 impact during their games... He even played a Valorant cuo during the DH final
2020-07-02 22:49
somehow people talk shit like gob b call BIG rounds while he didnt even watch the dreamhack final match
2020-07-02 23:08
Guess gob b didnt announce that he was looking into going pro in Valorant for BIG then cause im sure they would have had someone to work alongside him in regards to csgo. You know i think Tow b might be good for that position, and he can head coach while gob b is trying out Valorant. Must have been pointless hiring him to be the head of cs cause surely he would have hired a head coach on top of that for in game strats, but i guess its also impossible that he never works with the cs team at all and just doesnt do his job, oh well
2020-07-03 05:05
It is how it is, he didnt watch the final.
2020-07-03 12:59
Faze fans finding new excuse everyday after getting destroyed by BIG 0-8
2020-07-02 17:55
+1
2020-07-02 17:56
Its not excusse lol. Its just analysis of why are they doing great now. Go look stats of both teams on lan tournaments before corona started.
2020-07-02 17:59
What am I supposed to see for Big? They had a almost 100% win rate on Lan, only losing a bo1 against Detona
2020-07-02 23:02
Detona? Who the fuck are they? Some irrelevant tier 6 team. They have 100% win rate vs tier 6 teams.
2020-07-03 13:28
#17
NiKo | 
Russia reguix
+111111
2020-07-02 17:55
They dont have Gob B on the Server they have tow B on the server, their actual coach.
2020-07-02 18:07
He just reads the strats. Who do you think is the one making them. Even tho if gob B is not Coach on paper he is there.
2020-07-02 18:13
lol he was playing valorant during dreamhack grand final
2020-07-02 18:17
its not that hard to read strats from paper. Im not saying gob b came up with that alone, but he did most of the strats and analysis of other teams.
2020-07-02 20:38
That's a completely different thing than your claim that their coaches call in the mid rounds
2020-07-02 23:03
+1 he is a retard
2020-07-03 00:12
Wait do you think they dont? Go watch comms from astralis Online. And u will see zonic giving calls what to do in mid rounds, but not every round. If they do it why wouldnt everybody else lol.
2020-07-03 13:32
Because Astralis just lost their igl and Magisk is new to the role? Meanwhile Tabsen has been igling for over a year now
2020-07-03 13:38
Have u watched blast maybe? Where they give comms of some rounds. U have litteraly B1ad3 talking almost whole mid game round, ynk also( but his words are irrelevant since niko runs the show). G2 malek, and vitality xxxqtz or whatever his fucked up name is.
2020-07-03 13:42
That still doesn't mean that Big do it. They could, but you don't have any proof.
2020-07-03 13:48
I mean if ur the Coach and if u think that ur team are playing something wrong in that round. Wouldnt u jump in and said few words?
2020-07-03 13:55
It depends on the situation, but probably yes. Still nowhere near your initial claim that the coach does more than 80% of the calling
2020-07-03 13:57
Yea i said to much but the point is that coach can make impact with his calls in rounds. Dont get me wrong i like tabsen he is one of my favorite players its nice to see that finnaly his teamates are playing instead of him only. Just wanna see them prove that on lan. I want tabsen to join faze and igl there :)))
2020-07-03 14:42
#30
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Germany Enlay
tow B is on the server, bot gob b. Besides, every player from BIG is stepping up atm. They arent winning due to tactics and strats they are mostly winning due to individual performance.
2020-07-02 20:39
Nah they dont have a s1mple that destroys everything they have good teamwork and strats and the firepower to back them
2020-07-02 23:24
They are not better aimers than faze. They just outstrated them hard.
2020-07-03 13:48
#100
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Germany Enlay
Yes, but compared to a few month back you can ser the difference. Every big player doesnt choke as much as they uses to. Particularly K1to and tizi.
2020-07-03 16:02
Yea, its all part of the good strats. When i watched them vs faze they played rly nice CS. There wasnt much about individual skill.
2020-07-03 17:34
#106
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Germany Enlay
They arent comparable to a Niko or a Coldzera but all of BIGs players really improved their personal perfomance. Everyone stepped up. Just have a look at sysons or XANTARES recent performance, its not TabseN carying them like he sadly sometimes used to in the past.
2020-07-03 17:46
Yea, i rly like tabsen as a player. It was sad watching him geating beat up by tier 3 teams cuz nobody but him can perform. Finnaly they snaped out of it and started playing.
2020-07-03 18:06
#112
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Germany Enlay
+1 thats my point
2020-07-03 18:12
#42
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France Tytane
you really believe that vitality really needs their coatch to call when your apex and shox in your team NT
2020-07-02 22:20
Apex and shox? One is wannabe igl the other is a washed up bot. Zywoo is carrying them on his individual skill. There is very little strats, main strat is "zywoo kill"
2020-07-03 13:49
You don't know anything about BIG lol
2020-07-02 22:21
Actually Lenz (BIGs manager) said tabsen is doing all the calls on his own during the games and tow b only makes calls in timeouts if sth goes wrong or if someone forgets something but nt... Dont say bullshit about teams u have 0 knowledge about
2020-07-02 22:47
#107
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United States jack4000
trusting lenz ahahaha
2020-07-03 17:48
True mimi031 is much more trustworthy
2020-07-04 19:27
Vitality coach does not call 80% of the rounds at all,he specifically said that he was calling very little so the team would not take a bad habit with LANs coming back (on a french interview)
2020-07-02 22:52
Thats a good approach. But im sure that he gets involved if they are losing or if they are out of ideas. That part is crucial cuz u dont have that Online. Timeout is for 1 round not next 5.
2020-07-03 13:52
Where do you get that all that amazing insight from?? Hltv is such a joke seriously, only kids who talk shit about things they have no clue about and that all day long. Just for your info gob b isn't much involved with the players, he does other stuff for the BIG org. tow b is the coach of the team and the person who puts in insane amount of work into it.
2020-07-02 22:52
#55
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Turkey yasiN_
He doesn't know anything about BiG Org and/or roles in the team. Pure ignorant bullshitting here which he claims are "facts" and "pure analysis".
2020-07-02 22:57
this site really isn't good for my mental health. everyone who has some brain cells left should leave this site. it's filled with kids who only talk shit and spread hate without thinking for a second.
2020-07-02 23:13
#68
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Turkey yasiN_
True
2020-07-02 23:41
Thread finished. Can't wait for BIG to smash teams on LAN. It's great seeing German CS back at elite level like in 1.6
2020-07-02 23:03
Yea, i wonder what will be excusse if they dont.
2020-07-03 13:38
this
2020-07-03 00:13
If big sucks on lan this thread will check out or u guys will find some of the classic excusses (lucky, smoke kills, timings,big 3rd time on lan with this line up and every other bullshit)
2020-07-03 13:37
funny thing is its you are making excuses as to why faze got humilated by BIG in this thread, yet u predict BIG fans are gonna make excuses in the future if they dont succeed at LAN. hypocricisy at its finest
2020-07-03 13:49
Its analysis why are they good. Its not excusse lol. Excusse would be if i wrote "they have better Coach etc." im just saying that they need to prove themselfs on lan vs tier 1 teams not tier 5.
2020-07-03 13:53
gob b isnt their main coach its tow b
2020-07-02 22:59
Their coach doesn't do the mid round calls.
2020-07-02 23:04
I think BIG will win tomorrow, I would even expect a 2-0
2020-07-02 23:20
u know nothing...all speculation. useless thread /closed
2020-07-03 13:43
G2:3IG :D
2020-07-03 13:49
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2020-07-03 15:39
This man really calling TabseN a bad igl? lmao
2020-07-03 15:41
Lol i never said that. Im saying that in some rounds where they look lost. Coach steps in with calls.
2020-07-03 18:10
#102
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Russia NIETTV
BIG 2-0
2020-07-03 16:12
#114
RpK | 
France HippzZ
During an interview the Vita coach said that he tries to not speak that much in order to prepare the team for lans. But yeah I'm afraid that without the coach apex will be sometimes lost but there is still shox who can help with midround calls
2020-07-03 18:20
AVEZ
1.53
PACT
2.44
Nexus
2.16
SJ
1.70
FURIA
1.23
Chaos
4.02
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