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Valorant = Spyware
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Vietnam Sooaside 
Valorant AC installs a kernel driver on your pc that monitors EVERYTHING you do on your PC, and is always online. Valorant is a game made by a company owned by Chinese company which is doubtlessly heavily tied with the CCP.
2020-07-03 23:19
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#1
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North America joeS
Ok but better anti cheat than vac, period
2020-07-03 23:20
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#2
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Vietnam Sooaside
you want to get monitored by China to avoid cheaters?
2020-07-03 23:21
26 replies
#6
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North America joeS
We are monitored by China 100 other ways. I'd rather have no cheaters.
2020-07-03 23:23
20 replies
#7
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Vietnam Sooaside
sure kkkk
2020-07-03 23:23
13 replies
#20
KQLY | 
Czech Republic Regon
Microsoft monitoring u. Google too. And they are selling the data to other companies in China and other countries. Nothing new.
2020-07-03 23:28
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#21
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Vietnam Sooaside
who said otherwise??? I recommend you use Shut up windows 10 and runaroo search engine to avoid both
2020-07-03 23:29
7 replies
who the fuck cares, they know everything we do anyway. At this point let them do It.
2020-07-04 00:13
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#77
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Vietnam Sooaside
why are you so demoralized?
2020-07-04 00:13
4 replies
Because It is a lost battle and this is only the beginning, they are already using cameras on the streets that recognize faces, we are heading towards maximum control of every citizen. It is what's coming for us buddy
2020-07-04 00:14
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#81
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Vietnam Sooaside
kkk
2020-07-04 00:19
2 replies
nt brazilian
2020-07-04 00:22
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#86
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Vietnam Sooaside
k
2020-07-04 00:25
If you really don't want to have China (or any country for that matter) spy on you, you could suffice with NO electronics at all. Good luck with that pal.
2021-03-02 22:24
Only brainlet plebs like u use microsoft and google products
2020-07-04 00:13
3 replies
+1 Smart mens use Apple products
2021-03-02 22:26
2 replies
name checks out
2021-03-02 22:32
i thought you were gonna say linux and open source apps
2021-03-02 22:34
thats actually very true
2020-07-03 23:24
how exactly?
2020-07-03 23:25
+1 delusional kids still dont believe this lol imagine being so blind to think mofos dont know when you shower or even fap.
2020-07-04 00:04
kek this game had cheats after like 2 days when it was in beta
2020-07-04 00:36
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#106
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North America joeS
and they are being detected and banned a lot quicker than VACnet. Just yesterday there was a major ban wave that knocked out 3700+ cheaters, including a lot of top level players
2020-07-04 01:42
#97
mantuu | 
United Kingdom xkz0
Classic Americuck not using any privacy-bolstering techniques online
2020-07-04 00:54
what would china want from your PC anyway????
2020-07-03 23:42
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#105
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United States Amerika!
All my hentai and furry shit
2020-07-04 01:35
1 reply
Kkkkkkkkkkk
2021-03-02 22:22
#68
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Albania Quarkz
If you only knew how much hardware is produced in China. Videocards, smart phones, RAM, harddisks, motherboards etc. China has plenty of ways to spy on us via the hardware we use on a day to day basis. You can just take a look at how many people uses a Huawei telephone. And the worries people have with buying 5G equipment from that company. newatlas.com/huawei-ban-us-what-spy-evid..
2020-07-03 23:59
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#69
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Vietnam Sooaside
I do, Motherboards in Taiwan Ram in China and Japan smart phones in China samsung in Korea video cards in China as well
2020-07-04 00:02
#72
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Panama Bill_Bait
dumb=+???
2020-07-04 00:08
Are you stupid? If Valorant ac ever does anything like that they would get sued lol so they can't spy on you
2020-07-03 23:21
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#9
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Vietnam Sooaside
lol you are an npc, google prism nsa and go to techrights.org
2020-07-03 23:24
1 reply
+1
2021-03-02 23:29
your phone listens to what you say to get ads directed at you
2020-07-03 23:25
7 replies
Its not the phone, its Google, etc..Facebook does the same thing lol There is a difference between 3rd party anticheat & a websites/things like google :p also i'm pretty sure riot wouldn't want to destroy their reputation because if they would get caught, it would be a goodbye to any event and game thats linked to riot so would also mean rip league and rip pro scene
2020-07-03 23:32
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How is their difference between 3rd party gathering your personal information and a company like google and facebook gathering your information from listening. Remember when facebook got into that big scandal with taking information without stating it. Nobody seemed to give a shit so i don't see a reason for people to care about an anticheat
2020-07-04 01:21
4 replies
Rule difference and anti-cheat is meant to do only one thing (protect against cheats) so they are not allowed to do anything non cheat/game related stuff or interact with other things that have nothing to do with cheats/game
2020-07-04 01:23
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For me social media is too check what my friends are posting and google is for searching the web. They both show ads does not mean i want personal data stolen when im just searching up HLTV
2020-07-04 01:30
2 replies
incognito ez x)
2020-07-04 01:55
1 reply
LMAO
2021-03-02 22:19
Its true mate,I was at work and people said the word Milwaukee and guess what shows up on my Facebooks ads?Never before and after that one time
2021-03-02 22:30
Vanguard starts on Windows start-up and if you close it down, you have to reboot your PC before you can play Valorant, so you can say it's always running in the background, unless you really don't want it to. As for the spying, I have my doubts.
2020-07-03 23:25
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#19
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Vietnam Sooaside
its a kernel driver, in other words everytime you turn on your PC you turn on the valorant anti cheat
2020-07-03 23:27
16 replies
so? a lot of shit is kernel but that doesn't mean shit
2020-07-03 23:29
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#28
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Vietnam Sooaside
lol sure, care to explain the high bandwidth on valorant as well?
2020-07-03 23:32
3 replies
Thats literally the same issue like with League difference being that Valorant is pretty badly optimized atm when it comes to network
2020-07-03 23:34
#103
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India bigdong
brazilian internet smh my head
2020-07-04 01:27
1 reply
nvm someone revived a 2020 post
2021-03-02 22:47
so basically what i just said. you can close down the anticheat if you want, but then you won't be able to play valorant before rebooting
2020-07-03 23:31
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#26
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Vietnam Sooaside
sure just trust Valorant to let you turn their KERNEL DRIVER on and off completely
2020-07-03 23:31
9 replies
if there's something fishy about it, they will get caught sooner or later remember esea bitcoin mining scandal? guess you weren't around back then it can hit companies haaaaard to get caught in shit like that
2020-07-03 23:33
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#30
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Vietnam Sooaside
I think you are an npc
2020-07-03 23:33
7 replies
7-1
2020-07-03 23:35
6 replies
#37
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Vietnam Sooaside
Im not from Brazil
2020-07-03 23:35
5 replies
beta
2020-07-03 23:36
4 replies
#40
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Vietnam Sooaside
just like Valorant beta software
2020-07-03 23:36
3 replies
and ur brain =D
2020-07-03 23:36
2 replies
#43
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Vietnam Sooaside
my brain stronk unlike EU
2020-07-03 23:37
1 reply
"Fan of BIG" Also 0/8
2020-07-04 00:13
#36
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Netherlands HetIsPatat
GL suing Winnie the Pooh 🤣
2020-07-03 23:35
1 reply
Can't cuz he is dead soon thanks to all the viruses starting in that country
2020-07-03 23:36
That's how it should be.
2020-07-03 23:22
trust me they dont need another spyware to know wtf is going on, on your pc. collecting data is like the new GOLD, the company i worked for sold all our data for 150 millions, and thats a restaurant with 10000000 names and big boy data.
2020-07-03 23:23
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#11
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Vietnam Sooaside
yeah but just because they can peer through windows doesn't mean you should open the front door
2020-07-03 23:24
2 replies
well thats true but they probably know already more about u, than urself :D
2020-07-03 23:47
1 reply
#64
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Vietnam Sooaside
true enough
2020-07-03 23:47
:D everything is spyware you tard
2020-07-03 23:25
18 replies
#18
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Vietnam Sooaside
not if you use Ubuntu
2020-07-03 23:26
16 replies
#23
i am | 
Yugoslavia bleaq
adware
2020-07-03 23:30
1 reply
#24
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Vietnam Sooaside
then use another build???
2020-07-03 23:31
another guy who has no clue about anything but read something about linux and now thinks he knows everything
2020-07-03 23:33
13 replies
#34
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Vietnam Sooaside
Windows makes it hard to avoid spyware, using Ubuntu works in 2020
2020-07-03 23:35
12 replies
never denied it. but ubuntu isnt safe either
2020-07-03 23:37
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#45
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Vietnam Sooaside
you said I somehow knew everything for suggesting linux? Obviously ubuntu isn't safe but its a magnitude safer than using Windows 10
2020-07-03 23:39
10 replies
you act like valorant ac is spying on everyone and ubuntu is a safe operating system. neither is true. and even if, doesnt matter. if china would want to spy on everyone, they dont need a ac for it.
2020-07-03 23:40
9 replies
#52
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Vietnam Sooaside
I never suggested any of those things. Only that privacy wise using Ubuntu is better than using win10
2020-07-03 23:42
8 replies
yeah, literally anything is better than win10
2020-07-03 23:46
7 replies
#63
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Vietnam Sooaside
even macOS?? I mean if you want to play games on Linux Ubuntu seems like the best option
2020-07-03 23:47
6 replies
yeah, mac is "safer" than win10. but still, both are shit
2020-07-03 23:50
5 replies
#66
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Vietnam Sooaside
yes
2020-07-03 23:51
would you consider any os safe or good today?
2021-03-02 22:38
3 replies
ms-dos
2021-03-02 23:20
2 replies
CP/M all the way
2021-03-03 00:15
1 reply
nah, GM-NAA I/O is much better
2021-03-03 00:17
0/8 I trust Apple
2021-03-02 22:29
#33
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Albania Quarkz
It is a very intrusive piece of anticheat that's for sure. But it's not unlike other anticheat systems we've seen in the past. The major concern is it installs itself as a kernel driver and could potentially be exploited leaving a very nice zero ring access point open for hackers. I'm less concerned with the chinese government knowing what lewd kind of material I watch or what shoes I'm considering to buy than I am of some rogue hacker eventually breaking the anticheat and deploy scripts via it onto my comp.
2020-07-03 23:35
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#42
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Vietnam Sooaside
I dont suspect that because there are easier ways to deploy malware, but I think that the fact Valorant is freeware and has no accountability means you shouldn't touch it. just the fact that it decides to be a kernel level driver is inexcusable
2020-07-03 23:40
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#51
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Albania Quarkz
No accountability? I'm not sure how you came to that conclusion unless it's stated in the TOS that you void any potential harm to your computer as a result of the company's code. I don't know whether the TOS says so or not. There are definitely easier ways to deploy malware but it being installed directly as a kernel driver, requiring nonstop reading of your computer makes it ripe for disguising malware. I have to admit I'm only speculating but everytime you add a process that has to be running nonstop, there's a distinct chance of it being exploited and used to hide potential malware. Not that many people go test what IP's are being called from the various processes that are running.
2020-07-03 23:44
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#57
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Vietnam Sooaside
not sure about the USA but definitely in China there will be no accountability.
2020-07-03 23:44
That's my main concern as well. Too easy for hackers to exploit. Game isn't good enough to be worth this imo.
2020-07-03 23:43
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#67
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Albania Quarkz
I'm not much of a computer whiz so I can't say whether it's easy or not. But almost all software has potential exploits and it is eventually just a matter of time before someone finds a hole in that piece of software. Fighting malware is always playing catch-up rather than being proactive.
2020-07-03 23:51
5 replies
I just don't trust Riot enough to protect their kernel software. I doubt their security team has the budget or capabilities required to keep it up.
2020-07-04 00:26
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#88
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Albania Quarkz
If people only knew what kind of flaws systems have. This guy did a speech on hacking air traffic controllers then got hired by companies to mitigate the damage and come up with safety protocols making it more safe. His message about how these open systems are being implemented in several European countries, ripe for exploitation was chilling though youtube.com/watch?v=CXv1j3GbgLk
2020-07-04 00:29
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Yea I think most people don't even think about it, or choose to ignore it. It is quite terrifying indeed, thanks for link will give it a watch. Personally, I don't really care if my habitual information is sold. I don't use my computer for anything out of the ordinary...my only fears are my trading accounts being hacked, as those aren't quite as protected as bank accounts or credit cards.
2020-07-04 00:33
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#91
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Albania Quarkz
It's from Defcon so it isn't that easy to follow the exact weaknesses and code but the overall message shines through. They had guys demonstrating how to shut off breaks on cars with wifi too. All sorts of scary stuff. But it's a bit technical and hard to follow at times if you aren't profecient in various scripting languages.
2020-07-04 00:36
#94
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Albania Quarkz
Let me recommend the documentary about Defcon conference in general too that they made at their 20 years of anniversary. youtube.com/watch?v=rVwaIe6CiHw
2020-07-04 00:38
Valorant = dead game in 2 years
2020-07-03 23:42
6 replies
#59
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Vietnam Sooaside
3 million daily users btw
2020-07-03 23:45
5 replies
who cares? justin bieber is selling more albums than dre. do u remember that quite a strange game named overwatch? that "cs killer"? me neither
2020-07-04 00:49
4 replies
Overwatch was never meant to be a cs killer lol, if someone says you that some game is meant to kill another game they are stupid Also look at who made overwatch, you really think Blizzard can make anything other than MMO games?
2020-07-04 01:26
3 replies
so you are rly trying to say, that valorant could be THAT game over cs?
2020-07-04 01:44
2 replies
Valorant is its own game CS is its own game both are same genre but different
2020-07-04 01:55
1 reply
true, im just triggered by the comparisons between them
2020-07-04 03:12
LMFAO
2020-07-03 23:43
People still playing this game?
2020-07-03 23:43
Don't trust china! China is asshoe!
2020-07-03 23:43
#58
NAF | 
Netherlands Ramskis
True
2020-07-03 23:45
Internet Explorerr?
2020-07-03 23:46
1 reply
#70
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Vietnam Sooaside
yes
2020-07-04 00:03
Anyone still plays that?
2020-07-04 00:12
7 replies
#76
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Vietnam Sooaside
no only 3 million people
2020-07-04 00:13
6 replies
those arent people
2020-07-04 00:14
5 replies
#82
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Vietnam Sooaside
ok
2020-07-04 00:19
If we being honest I would say currently Valorant has more daily players then CSGO but, CSGO has the MUCCH stronger esport/competitive scene... BUT... even with a tournament going on though (-gaules) Valorant is winning in viewership... As of 8:51pm EST Valorant - 99.2k & CSGO 70.7k... Even on twitter/IG Valorant has more followers and engagement. Look, I know CS fans want to act like Valorant is garbage and no one plays it... But that's just not the case. They have a Mexican tournament going on w/ like 2k viewers. I dont even think CSGO has a mexican team LOL. Anyways, I would force Valve to care more about the game. Use this as a way to eliminate this "valve time" we've been accustomed to.
2020-07-04 02:56
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#141
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United States Slyckz
guarantee cs has a decent amount more also i see u on every thread defending valorant super hard
2021-03-02 23:22
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This was from 7/03/20... And I'm using logic and data lol. Never have I said CSGO is terrible and also, Im a huge fan of the esport scene but, I enjoy Valorant as well... People make 30,000 topics on Val here and I give my opinion on a few. Who cares bro... Ignore it
2021-03-02 23:28
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#149
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United States Slyckz
i had no idea it was a bumped thread I just be scrolling through threads but i dont think at any point valorant has had more players than cs maybe a little in the open beta
2021-03-03 01:13
#83
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Italy cele87
cry more cheater
2020-07-04 00:20
1 reply
#93
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Vietnam Sooaside
ok can I get a tissue tho
2020-07-04 00:37
#84
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Portugal astacp
why bother? you have some pedo stuff to hide? or its just about your nudes?
2020-07-04 00:21
4 replies
#92
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Vietnam Sooaside
yeah your moms nudes, dont want the CCP to leak the hottest female ever
2020-07-04 00:36
They don't wanna see your nudes, but if they know things about you and your tastes, they can sell and makes you think whatever they want, pretty easy. All this data paired with a good IA algorithm it's like Goebbels dreams.
2020-07-04 00:53
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#102
nope | 
Finland zntei
they are after money, it's not like they'll make you go bankrupt... so why bother
2020-07-04 01:26
#117
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Portugal astacp
dude i dont care if they steal my email to sell for ads and make some money, i dont care what they see in my computer and they already said they are not doing such things basicly because thats a CRIME and you are accusing them for that. personally i support all kind of this intrusive AC because if there's thing i rly hate is seeing hackers and play agaisnt them and this ACs are the only way to prevent it at an efficient way.
2020-07-04 03:05
Most anticheats install drivers on your PC too. Also, most of them are initialized on boot as well. The difference with valorant is that they don't allow you to disable that.
2020-07-04 01:26
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#108
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Vietnam Sooaside
sure sure
2020-07-04 01:44
DuckDuckGo + Linux Fuck the Chinese Government xD
2020-07-04 01:51
3 replies
You mean fuck winnie the pooh?
2020-07-04 01:56
2 replies
YEAH
2020-07-04 01:56
1 reply
#114
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Vietnam Sooaside
thats hot
2020-07-04 02:37
dude Google is literally taking your info from your pc every day Facebook all these companies do it they have been doing it for decades now
2021-03-02 22:21
So why do you play Valorant then?
2021-03-02 22:37
who cares? i play in valorant since beta and I saw only 2 cheaters with spinbot
2021-03-02 22:37
#131
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Australia Cheesle2
You know faceit does the same thing right?
2021-03-02 22:39
1 reply
no it doesn't
2021-03-02 22:50
I thought they changed it? Maybe run it in a virtual machine then?
2021-03-02 22:50
1 reply
Even better thing: don’t play at all...
2021-03-02 23:16
Your brain = slow
2021-03-02 22:54
nice
2021-03-02 23:13
#138
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Czech Republic rusteDD
Same as faceit, but u dont care wbout it xdd Or esea
2021-03-02 23:19
You're fucking retarded. First of all, AC is only active when game is launched. A driver is just driver, it does absolutely nothing on its own. Vanguard AC is not the same as Vanguard driver. Where the fuck you 10 IQ morons even crawling from?
2021-03-02 23:24
1 reply
Yeah call him retarded man, look at the fucking date when the thread was made and then rethink who's retarded, I believe back when this thread was made Vanguard AC was still running all the time.
2021-03-02 23:24
same as faceit and esea btc miners LUL
2021-03-02 23:23
Who cars about valorant it's dogshit
2021-03-03 00:19
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