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Coldzera is the goat
coldzera | 
Asia SandiGOD 
Coldzera is the goat Device never been top 1 LET ALONE TWICE BACK TO BACK S0mple never been major winner or major mvp LET ALONE TWICE BACK TO BACK ez for GOATZERA cya in hell
2020-07-04 13:14
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stfu botshit
2020-07-04 13:18
Lol, you are so easy to trigger, I didn't evey try to.
2020-07-04 13:18
ill eat your ass frenchie fry
2020-07-04 13:19
I'd prefer gyal on my face, not some gay sorry.
2020-07-04 13:19
#19
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Moldova shawww
lol 1-0
2020-07-04 13:26
coldzera is not even a top 10 player in cs history
2020-07-04 13:20
I MEAN CSGO YOU FUCKING SCHNITZEL
2020-07-04 13:21
coldzera is not even a top 10 player in csgo history
2020-07-04 13:23
someone from HLTV, it might have been Striker or Prof not quite sure but anyways. They came out and said that Devices #2 in 2018 and #3 in 2019 would have been #1 in all the prior years so yea devve>cold
2020-07-04 13:23
Nice try BOTvice only holding angle with awp like faking noop
2020-07-04 13:24
0/8 coldzera is doing his job but hes not anywhere close to the top 10
2020-07-04 13:22
+1
2020-07-04 13:23
stfu ahmed
2020-07-04 13:24
#95
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Russia NSNdevv
Be careful, I got banned for almost the same comment :)
2020-07-04 14:17
oh no
2020-07-04 14:17
0/8 snakezera
2020-07-04 13:23
Ok, but Korone is better Proof : youtu.be/zqchJr3lRlk
2020-07-04 13:24
FUCK YOU
2020-07-04 13:25
GeT_RiGhT was the best player in the world back to back, in just CSGO. In CS history Coldzera doesnt even have a chance and in just CSGO I'd say he is far under plenty of other players, I'd say he isnt even the GOAT of CS in Brazil haha
2020-07-04 13:25
nt Borger brain Name people who are better than GOATzera
2020-07-04 13:27
By achievements or individual skill?
2020-07-04 13:28
Both S1mple never won a major Dev1ce was never the best GeT_RiGhT dominated early scene where the skill was low compared to now same for F0rest apart from 2015-2016 KennyS never the best Guardian never the best and never won a major Shox never the best
2020-07-04 13:29
By just achievements Fifflaren beats out Coldzera haha. Any Astralis player as well, also almost any Fnatic player that win in the team around 2015. So ignoring achievements I usually dont like comparing Device with Cold, completely different play styles and everything. S1mple and Cold have semi-similar styles, same with Zywoo so comparing them Cold would be the worst out of them. Just sheer mechanical skill, I'd honestly say players like Shroud and NiKo and Device are more "Mechanically skilled" Also Cold didnt really have an impact on CS as much as other players. So by just impact of the CS scene, he'd be beaten by the old NiP guys, much of his former Brazilian teammates, and other older players. Now I personally think that the GOAT should be a mix, they had a large impact on the CS scene in general, they were very individually skilled, and they won lots of events, here would be my list in particular order: F0rest Olofmeister GeT_RiGhT KRIMZ FalleN NEO (deserves a mention, although most people dont consider him the GOAT after 1.6, you need to understand that between 1.6 and GO, he changed his play style completely from fragger to support, much like Xizt) Xizt (again probably not, but the sheer amounts of tournament wins definitely gives him a mention) Shox Device S1mple GuardiaN and KennyS (also deserve mention due to their remarkably high skill ceiling) I'm sure you dont count these guys but HeatoN, Potti, SpawN, ahl, fisker, EleMent, shaGuar, XeqtR, frOd etc also deserve mentions, not the GOAT but their impact on CS is something Cold will never come close to
2020-07-04 13:43
Stopped reading at shroud
2020-07-04 13:44
#18
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United States jack4000
didnt even win 10 big events :D
2020-07-04 13:25
Same for LULquid
2020-07-04 13:28
#26
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United States jack4000
did I claim them to be goat?
2020-07-04 13:30
No I just love to hate on Borger brains
2020-07-04 13:30
#31
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United States jack4000
is it because of your inferiority complex ?
2020-07-04 13:32
no it's because na is trash and overrated EG shouldnt even be top 10 XD
2020-07-04 13:33
#34
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United States jack4000
you shouldnt say that with coldzera flair :D
2020-07-04 13:34
i say it proudly for the GOATZERA
2020-07-04 13:35
#40
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United States jack4000
2020-07-04 13:38
2020-07-04 13:40
#47
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Brazil Arishock
he literally did
2020-07-04 13:44
#49
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United States jack4000
name 10
2020-07-04 13:44
#86
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Brazil Arishock
2016: MLG, ESL One, ESL Pro League 2017: ESL One, ESL Pro League, IEM Sydney, EPICENTER, Blast Pro Series, ECS 2019: Blast Pro Series
2020-07-04 14:06
#87
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United States jack4000
>Blast Pro Series >Blast Pro Series nice try, better luck next time!
2020-07-04 14:09
hltv.org/stats/events?startDate=all&matc.. Technically it is a "Big Event"?
2020-07-04 14:11
#90
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United States jack4000
According to HLTV, yes.
2020-07-04 14:13
There you go :)
2020-07-04 14:14
#105
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United States jack4000
Anyone with an IQ above 60 knows that blast events dont count though Therefore coldzera is a loser and didnt even win 10 big events :)
2020-07-04 14:26
dev1ce 4 times world champion > coldzera 2. end of discussion.
2020-07-04 13:28
0/8 When was dev1ce the best player in the world?
2020-07-04 13:30
don't you understand what greatest of all time mean? No, I don't think so
2020-07-04 13:32
i think u are the one who does not understand
2020-07-04 13:32
so you agree that coldzera the guy who was the clear number one in 2016 -2017 and then being nowhere the rest of the time csgo has been yeah he's the best of all time deluded sausage german
2020-07-04 13:36
look at coldzs stats, achievments btw, reported for insulting ;)
2020-07-04 13:38
yeah the stats really sets cold apart from device 15 trophies against device's 25 yeah that's clear that he's achieved more than device there what about rating surely cold beats him there oh no device has 1.21 rating but cold has 1.07 so yeah and being in the top 5 for the last five years is not a good achievement for device but if that wasn't what you meant then tell me in what way does cold beat device
2020-07-04 13:46
Greatest of all time when he was never the greatest at one point in time hmmm
2020-07-04 13:32
So you're saying that you're only classified to be a goat if you've been the best at some year... Jesus christ
2020-07-04 13:41
yes Coldzera was the best in 2016-17 and a great player in 2018 and 2019. Only in 2020 did he drop off. The best for 2 years and great for 2 years. The same can't be said for Dev1ce was great for 6 years sure but I would say being number 1 2 times is worth more than being just great for an extra 2 years.
2020-07-04 13:48
but im just saying device has been top 5 for the past five years consistency always wins and if you ask any analyst he would say the same
2020-07-04 13:52
too bad he doesn't have taco to bait, he could've gotten maybe top1 again
2020-07-04 14:02
So Gla1ve > everyone out of Astralis????
2020-07-04 13:46
hum... no?
2020-07-04 14:03
he means "Gla1ve > Everyone not in Astralis"
2020-07-04 14:09
8/8 gr8 b8
2020-07-04 13:33
thanks mario
2020-07-04 13:34
baitzera XD
2020-07-04 13:37
ok s0mple fangay
2020-07-04 13:40
ok BRA71L
2020-07-04 13:42
Not brazil
2020-07-04 13:42
nt BRA71L
2020-07-04 13:46
nt 0KRAINE
2020-07-04 13:48
proof?
2020-07-04 13:53
So, is this coldzera? i.imgur.com/YlcRRns.jpg?1
2020-07-04 13:48
yes
2020-07-04 13:53
Ok, he can be an actual goat while s1mple is the real G.O.A.T aka the greatest of all time!
2020-07-04 13:49
No. S1mple is prnt.sc/t7xj86 Coldzera is the greatest of all time and a goat
2020-07-04 13:50
So s1mple is hot gamer girl + greatest of all time while coldzera is just a chained up goat. Im cool with that.
2020-07-04 13:51
No. Coldzera greatest Counter Strike Global Offensive Player of all time S1mple is a fucking femboy and thats it
2020-07-04 13:51
But you agreed with me when i showed you a picture of coldzera chained up as a goat and you responded with yes at #56
2020-07-04 13:52
when?
2020-07-04 13:52
nice edit.
2020-07-04 13:52
Reply needs to have actual content
2020-07-04 13:53
nt BRA71L
2020-07-04 13:53
Stop editing the comment, also if u reply to this saying "nice bait lmao" then ur a dog.
2020-07-04 13:59
nice bait lmao
2020-07-04 13:59
well, yes.. but s1mple is the real GOAT, i mean, 2 majors mvp and 2 times top 1 for sure he is in top 3 GOAT, but s1mple has the best aim and did what no one else could, for me, is just a matter of time to him be the solid GOAT.
2020-07-04 13:53
s1mple will be the goat when he wins major so never
2020-07-04 13:53
well, i really don't belive that, like, is just a matter of time, he will win, i don't know if is gonna be with navi or shit like that, but he will carry his team to another finals again
2020-07-04 13:54
you can't win a major with a 1 man army mentality it's just impossible.
2020-07-04 13:55
yup i agree with you, i belive that cold is gonna win a 3 major before s1mple, but s1mple still have the best AIM, and maybe game sense
2020-07-04 13:57
i think zywoo has better gamesense tbh zywoo's teammates say that in his head, it's like numbers and he knows every timing
2020-07-04 13:58
bro, zywoo in his first year in professional t1 t2 he became top 1, i mean, what else he can do? its not just hype, in 10 years what he will be?
2020-07-04 14:00
zywoo will probably become the goat in a few years if he keeps this up and gets more experience. For now the goat is cold
2020-07-04 14:01
agree 100 tbh
2020-07-04 14:19
cold is my favorite player, i'm brazillian, so i'm so proud for him representing our country so well, he made history
2020-07-04 13:55
but he betrayed mibr, by joining eu team
2020-07-04 14:05
betrayed? lol, he wasn't happy anymore, he make a good decision, and he is carrying faze with niko and broky
2020-07-04 14:19
>broky and carrying mens idk do you look at the scoreboard and decide that he carries?
2020-07-04 14:20
he's only 22, he has plenty of game left in his tank. one good run, and he'll get that major. it's not like it's very difficult or some shit. If teams like c9 and gambit did, navi can do it as well. We already saw glimpses of what potentially what navi can do, if they get in their rhytm
2020-07-04 14:05
thing is though gambit and c9 were actual teams in the sense of the word navi is seemingly the s1mple and electronic show
2020-07-04 14:06
what blet teams zeus admitted, that before krakow they lost 80% of practice, and they were no where near the major winning level. It's just so hapenned that they clicked at the same time and won C9 wasn't really a team, but a bunch of best na talent thrown together, so they weren't any favorites on anything to win, but maybe a dark horse contender, because of the pure raw skill that they had with them. But then again, idk if you read my reply. Yes, it's mostly elec's and s1mple's show, but only one good run, where everyone clicks, and s1mple gets his major. CS can be quite unpredictable sometimes, unlike sports like nba, where you have to get through bo7 series which pretty much guarantees that better team wins.
2020-07-04 14:14
#79
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Lithuania OGScales
coldzera is not even the best in faze, prob not even second best now, good one.
2020-07-04 14:03
"Of all time"
2020-07-04 14:04
#101
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Lithuania OGScales
good one actually made me laugh
2020-07-04 14:21
no he isn't. i agree with this thinking back in 2017 in all that hype, but with some years i saw that cold is one of the bests, top 5 in csgo, top20 cs maybe BUT get right still GOAT. device need prove himself without 4 stars in side. s1mple is boosted by navi gamestyle zywOo need time, maybe he downgrade as cold, then, time.
2020-07-04 14:16
get_right was playing in a lower tier tho. If you put 2014 GTR in the scene now he wouldnt even be top 10
2020-07-04 14:17
it's only supposition, it's like thinking how pelé would play today with all this tech. we won't have any conclusion thinking like that, we need objective things, GTR achieve more.
2020-07-04 14:21
But by the eye test, GTR wasn't really special in terms of mechanics. It was mostly his lurking style which helped him and that doesnt work anymore since roles are more fluid now
2020-07-04 14:21
but still inconclusive. you can't compare 2 differents generations, obivously a fighter froms 80s doesn't have any chance with jon jones. are 2 differents realities. we need facts to get a conclusion, and the fact is that GTR has more achieves, individual and with team.
2020-07-04 14:26
put 2013 gtr, 2014 gtr was already dropping off
2020-07-04 14:22
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