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NiKo | 
United Kingdom p0mpouS 
Mercedes 1-2 so no point in watching.
2020-07-04 16:18
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Germany v0l1t
gonna be very interesting from place 3 - 15 though
2020-07-04 16:23
#3
NiKo | 
United Kingdom p0mpouS
Yay, most of the those positions dont matter, 5 of them get no point, the top 5 is what matters, and when 2 of the top 5 disappear it sucks.
2020-07-04 16:24
#45
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Germany v0l1t
ofc it does but complaining wont make mercedes fuck up just enjoy what you have and hope 2022 with new rules it gets better
2020-07-04 17:07
Why does it take that long? Its simple, less complex wings, more powerful ground effect, these arent new technologies, it shouldnt take that long, its pathetic, these are meant to be some of the best engineering in the world and it takes them this long to make a new body, not a new car, a new body for the car. We had these things in the 70s and early 80s.
2020-07-04 17:17
#61
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Germany v0l1t
They should have been implemented next year. Most of the work to design it therefore has - for a large part- already been done. And i think it is quite obvious why the parts/cars will not be ready for next season because all factories had a massive loss of prdouction in recent times. Further, it is a massive economic risk to implement changes when theyre not fully ready, a mistake/loophole in the rules can lose them billions. And the only thing that is the same in the current and 2022 car, will basically be the motor. So, pretty drastic changes. Just quit complaining, and if you know so much better, adress your concerns to the f1, not to hltv forum.
2020-07-04 17:19
But weve known these problem for years. Mandate the maximum number of win elements, id say 2, make the front wing less wide, remove the parts of the front wing to do with generating at vortexes, remove the complex barge boards, mandate a simple one with a maximum number of element and a maximum area. Remove anything on the rear of the car to do with separating flow as that cause turbulence, so no more slots in the wings or little fins. Take the floor design from old ground effect cars, make the diffuser longer and deeper. ITS REALLY THAT SIMPLE, take downforce away from the top of the car and replace it with downforce beneath the car, that shouldnt take 4 years. If you really want to make it simple, make the wing narrower and the area allowed for ground effect bigger, even that alone would have a positive impact.
2020-07-04 17:28
#67
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Germany v0l1t
well its coming now why are you still complaining? They have spent years on research to get it absolutely perfect. You also have to always have in mind, the teams always have a season to run, a car to build, they didnt have the 4 years to build the car. And 1 year is added onto it because factories stood still bevause of covid. The world isnt going to end because of this. And no offense, but i still think the people in F1 know better what theyre doing than you and me. Dont complain that its too late, be optimistic because its going to come.
2020-07-04 17:29
The engineers yes, the people at the FIA no, the FIA are fucking clueless. They are trying to make sure the cars dont get faster as they will have same tyres next year rather than a new compound, as you know as cars get faster pirelli have to adjust their tyres to make sure they dont fail. Do you know how they are going to do this, they are going to cut away a section of the floor from either side, reducing down force from ground effect, making the overtaking even harder as it will shift the balance of downforce even further towards the top of the car, they have no idea what they are doing and everything they have done since 2014 has made things worse. "well its coming now why are you still complaining?" 3-4 year too late, at minimum, you could argue more like 7 year too late. "They have spent years on research to get it absolutely perfect." Theyve years trying to figure a technology we had in the 70s, ground effect, its that simple, less down force from wings, more from the floor, its really that simple. "You also have to always have in mind, the teams always have a season to run, a car to build, they didnt have the 4 years to build the car." Why an entire new car, the aero is enough. "And no offense, but i still think the people in F1 know better what theyre doing than you and me. Dont complain that its too late, be optimistic because its going to come." Why would i be optimistic over a group that has done nothing but make bad choices, 2014 regulations were an awful choice, 2017 was also stupid, i could tell you a mile off with a cursory glance those were bad choices. Also 2022 is not now, thats about a year and a half away, it should have happened in about 2018/19.
2020-07-04 17:42
They also continue to make the car heavier and heavier, making them less agile, they made the cars wider and they are now longer having the same effect and making them harder to pass. i.redd.it/dzcbf2trrzd21.png They dont know what they are doing. Like in 2014 with these engines, they were extremely expensive, added nothing to show, sounded awful and still do, they did nothing for the sport at all.
2020-07-04 17:39
F1 needs to stop being a committee, one person or a few people needs to set out the rules and the teams obey them or they can go away. The teams should have less than no say.
2020-07-04 17:11
#63
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Germany v0l1t
The teams have as little to say as possible. They dont have anything to say per rules, just per money. The F1 can not survive without Ferrari, Red Bull, Mercedes. And imo they are on a good way to lessen influence of teams with budget caps etc.
2020-07-04 17:24
Again, why does this take, so long? Weve known about this issue for the best part of 2 decades, it takes on season to say, ok next year maximum spending is 160 million. Again the FIA are so lumbering and ineffective in comedic, they are trying to make sure the cars dont get faster and they will have same tyres next year rather than a new compound, as you know as cars get faster pirelli have to adjust their tyres to make sure they dont fail. Do you know how they are going to do this, they are going to cut away a section of the floor from either side, reducing down force from ground effect, making the overtaking even harder as it will shift the balance of downforce even further towards the top of the car. This is is how incompetent they are.
2020-07-04 17:30
#88
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Finland kkd69
Did you see ferrari? Verstappen easy 3rd
2020-07-04 17:57
#2
NiKo | 
United Kingdom p0mpouS
So basically hamilton is going to fly past Bottas and win.
2020-07-04 16:23
#28
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Netherlands SpiceNut
You didn't watch previous years, have ya?
2020-07-04 16:51
Yeah ive watched most of the last 5 seasons, i skipped 2014 because it was so painfully slow. The only way this will be a race is if mercedes fuck up big time.
2020-07-04 16:53
Austria is RedBull's playground. Verstappen will probably fuck both of them and finish #1. Hopefully Norris can surprise us with #3, Lewis will probably finish #2. Bottas will crash.
2020-07-04 16:57
#41
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Netherlands SpiceNut
Fair enough, we shall see
2020-07-04 17:00
Also if i remember rightly, last year mercedes were having issue due to heat so they werent running at 100%.
2020-07-04 17:02
#4
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India magizhchi
If it rain tomorrow during race, then gg for Mercedes, 2019 Jermany flashback
2020-07-04 16:24
#5
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Brazil raoGOD
Noris 4th tho
2020-07-04 16:25
#29
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Moldova nutel
Twitch pride
2020-07-04 16:51
Binotto is like the worst idiot in the world of motorsports right now... should have been -binotto not -vettel xdd
2020-07-04 16:25
#79
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World jvscf
Vettel is a great driver, but it's quite obvious that regardless of his several titles, he's not on the same level as the greats, he just had a faaaar superior car on Red Bull...
2020-07-04 17:45
#7
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Finland 4L3J4NR_0
only have to watch start where hamilton overtakes bottas in turn 2
2020-07-04 16:26
no it would be in lap30 with james call
2020-07-04 16:54
#89
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Finland kkd69
Valtteri its James
2020-07-04 17:58
2Head
2020-07-04 16:27
Lights out and away we go and look at Norris he got a lightning start, he is ahead of Verstappen, oooooh what a dive bomb and he makes a move past both of Mercedes and after turn 1 Norris takes the lead. But jokes aside that was so anticlimactic. Like Q1 was so competitive and I thought Max could challenge Mercedes. But well.. let’s hope for an exciting race. But with this BS DAS it ain’t happening.
2020-07-04 16:31
Its not BS its just the other teams arent coming up with anything good. Stop bitching and make it yourself, just like the blown diffuser, F duct, double diffuser, the wieght system in the renault in 2006, everyone complains when someone come sup with something and they didnt.
2020-07-04 16:34
No it’s fucking not. That’s BS. FIA fucked it up fully. Oh, it’s so innovative and good that we decided to make DAS illegal next year. But hey Ferrari engine is illegal as well as their 2018 battery. The inconsistency from FIA is ridiculous. MaKe iT YoUrSeLf Sorry not every team has top1 budget on the grid to play around grey zones of the regulations. Oh, they made it themselves that it gets banned the next season, yeah cool.
2020-07-04 16:40
The top teams can afford it, its not that complex.
2020-07-04 16:41
Yeah they can afford it. Doesn’t mean that integrating it into the car would be of any use 🤷🏿‍♂️. Still illegal tho.
2020-07-04 16:45
Well it is of use as it changes the toe allows you to go faster on the straights and then have more grip on turn in.
2020-07-04 16:46
Not really. Concepts may vary and the effect of DAS will be different. Integrating just bc it is allowed serves zero use and wonder what kind of effect it will have on aero of RBR or Ferrari.
2020-07-04 16:53
Well DAS is very simple, it allow you to adjust the toe on the fly. "F1 cars are ordinarily set up with front tyres pointing very slightly outwards, almost duck-footed, because under braking the tyres are pushed slightly inwards. So with this set up, the tyres straighten up under braking. However, that means that aerodynamically the tyres have slightly more drag on the straights, which both loses the car speed and heats up the inside rim of the tyre which affects wear on the rubber. By using DAS on the straights, Mercedes appear able to straighten up the front wheels, removing that aerodynamically troublesome patch on the inside of each tyre, increasing speed and reducing tyre wear." Its not that hard to implement and will add another layer of driver skill as a driver who is better at this will gain an advantage.
2020-07-04 16:56
Its actually driver skill lead as you make the adjustment so drivers who are better at it will get a larger advantage.
2020-07-04 16:46
Max is on the mediums
2020-07-04 16:41
Doesnt matter, hell be in dirty air so those will just get destroyed by understeer.
2020-07-04 16:42
yeah and mercedes will be much faster overall, I didn't think ferrari or alfa would be this slow though, end of an era for vettel and kimi I guess... :'(
2020-07-04 16:47
just ban mercedes and its fixed.
2020-07-04 16:49
#15
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Latvia lniklavs
1-2-3 for mercedes
2020-07-04 16:42
And 4
2020-07-04 16:43
Basically its was Mercedes the V6 we got in 2014, so this shows why teams should no input on rules, the teams should be dictated to or told to get fucked. F1 without mercedes or Ferrari would be better.
2020-07-04 16:45
#20
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Netherlands HetIsPatat
who 🏎 🏎
2020-07-04 16:46
#23
kNgV- | 
Brazil sAA_
the front row is boring, but the middle is looking competitive. and btw twitter.com/brunoymasnada/status/1279421..
2020-07-04 16:47
But fuck the middle i want to see the best fighting for the champion ship, not the mid field fighting for some scraps.
2020-07-04 16:48
#27
kNgV- | 
Brazil sAA_
dude hopefully verstappen can win tomorrow P3 with mediums is looking hot!
2020-07-04 16:50
Lewis or Bottas will just fly away and if he does follow the dirty air will wreck his tyre with understeer.
2020-07-04 16:51
i wanna see if Norris can continue his form through the race from qualifying
2020-07-04 16:49
#31
kNgV- | 
Brazil sAA_
me2
2020-07-04 16:52
F1 has been like this for years... its always about the best cars
2020-07-04 16:53
It used to still require good drivers like 2006-2010
2020-07-04 16:54
so whos not the good drivers
2020-07-04 16:55
Bottas, take him out of Mercedes and put him in ferrari or Redbull hell be nowhere. Hes basically to Lewis what Barrichello was to Schumacher. Also look at 2007, won by one point. 2008, won on the last lap of the last race. 2009, won just before the last race. 2010, won in a 4 way shoot out in the last race, unfortunately abu dahbi had a negative effect. 2012 went down to the last race at brazil.
2020-07-04 16:59
none of these teams want 2 big money drivers because they know it gets too complicated for them. If Hamilton is in first place they wont let Bottas try and race him... if they had Hamilton and someone like Ricciardo or Verstappen they know they wont play into this team mentallity they will want to win
2020-07-04 17:02
#73
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Malaysia Suno[t]
kimi lucked out of that 2007 win. IF Schumy were driving the Ferrari he would have been 8x world champion
2020-07-04 17:41
ok but he still won. by 1 point.
2020-07-04 17:47
That qualifer was all about Engines, all the Ferrari engines literally ended last. and Vettel and Charles, did a bit better since they're more skilled drivers but still shit 7 and 11, Gg Mercedes go next, also Racing point used Mercedes engines i think.
2020-07-04 17:05
Fuck me I hope Hamilton crashes tomorrow
2020-07-04 17:09
season wasted
2020-07-04 17:10
maybe bottas can win this year?
2020-07-04 17:10
No Chance lul, hes mentally weak and not as fast as Hamilton.
2020-07-04 17:12
Hamilton champ easy peasy just give him the trophy. Leclerc second if Ferrari can step up if not it's Verstappen or Bottas coz of the car(hes pretty average tho)
2020-07-04 17:11
Mercedes goat, people say this is boring but would you trifle the best to have slow cars race for first? Doesn't make any sense. F1 is a meritocracy. It will be that more impressive when they are not at the top anymore (if that ever happens).
2020-07-04 17:12
in the 80's --> the better driver wins now --> the better car wins lol
2020-07-04 17:13
#56
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Brazil ny00l
Mercedes just fucking ruined the sport, there's no point on watching it anymore cuz everybody already knows what the result will be. F for F1.
2020-07-04 17:13
It's about Hamilton.. it's not that big gap as it was with RBR(Vettel), in 2018 Ferrari was even faster imo and still lost coz Hamilton is just too good. He won anywhere he went.
2020-07-04 17:16
Those RBs weren't as dominant as the Mercedes of 2014-2016 and 2019. 17-18 was a different story. Just look at the amount of podiums and race wins they got compared to RB.
2020-07-04 17:38
2012 was close atleast so was 2010. 2014, 15, 16, 17, 18 and 19 has all done to mercedes by a landslide.
2020-07-04 17:44
Mercedes Farming championships
2020-07-04 17:15
Ferrari trash team. Leclerc and Vettel deserve a better team around them
2020-07-04 17:18
its all about the money anyways
2020-07-04 17:18
I hope McLaren can suprise tomorrow with some good driving. F1 is back !!
2020-07-04 17:20
Ferrari is a team full of clowns holy fuck. They're 0.5seconds slower compared to last year. But my boi Lando is coming in hot this season and I'm glad Mclaren is at least on par with Racing Point. Poor Vettel and Leclerc, idk what the hell Ferrari does with it's budget
2020-07-04 17:35
0,5s? more like 0,9-1,2s slower XD
2020-07-04 17:42
Yeah, sorry. Holy fuck they are so incompetent. Not even best of the midfield. 2009 all over again xd
2020-07-04 17:46
The FIA is aswell, it takes them like 4 years to figure out how to reduce downforce from the wings and increase it from the floor, how dumb can you get. They are trying to make sure the cars dont get faster and they will have same tyres next year rather than a new compound, as you know as cars get faster pirelli have to adjust their tyres to make sure they dont fail. Do you know how they are going to do this, they are going to cut away a section of the floor from either side, reducing down force from ground effect, making the overtaking even harder as it will shift the balance of downforce even further towards the top of the car. This is is how incompetent they are.
2020-07-04 17:52
Mercedes #1 and #2 is just how things are for now, the competition of 3-10 will be very interesting this year though, I think
2020-07-04 17:37
If Vettel gets Ricciardo spot at Renault next year he will feel very good. Lets go Mclaren!
2020-07-04 17:41
I think he wants the Aston seat tbh
2020-07-04 17:47
I dont know anything about formula one, but I think I will watch the Austrian grand prix tomorrow.
2020-07-04 17:43
Austrian
2020-07-04 17:43
Thank you, fixed
2020-07-04 17:49
Good idea, just pretend there are no Mercs at the front xd
2020-07-04 17:47
why do you say that?
2020-07-04 17:54
Because they are half a second ahead of everybody/lap
2020-07-04 18:19
I have have a pretty good or atleast i think pretty good answer to this issue. Dont tie drivers to a team, have 20 races and 10 teams and each driver spends 2 races at each team, each drivers get to use the best car twice and has to also use the worst cars, and the lesser teams get better drivers so they have a chance. This mean the FIA pays the salary, this costs the teams less money.
2020-07-04 19:05
I am so excited F1 is back!! I don't care if 1-2 for mercedes hopefully Bottas wins
2020-07-04 17:57
#90
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Russia M13F
go Bottas, sosat' chernomaziy
2020-07-04 17:59
This gay colors looks horrible on every car. On board with rainbow on Halo system looks bad...
2020-07-04 18:22
Yeah and mercedes virtue signalling.
2020-07-04 18:36
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