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most undeserved #1 ever ?
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United States jack4000 
1. G2 (last few weeks) 2. Vitality (next week onwards) 3. NiP for one week in 2016 Thoughts?
2020-07-04 16:24
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France tostos
1. Liquid 2. Liquid 3. Liquid
2020-07-04 16:25
#3
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United States jack4000
nice flag
2020-07-04 16:26
nice flag
2020-07-04 16:30
#18
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France tostos
nice flag
2020-07-04 17:15
Nice flag
2020-07-04 17:23
#24
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United Kingdom iXuhi
nice flag
2020-07-04 17:25
nice flag
2020-07-07 20:25
Nice flag
2020-07-07 20:29
#68
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United States fowlyz
nice flag
2020-07-07 20:33
#76
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United Kingdom rywana
nice flag
2020-07-07 20:44
nice flag
2020-07-07 20:44
nice flag
2020-07-07 20:46
Nice flag
2020-07-07 20:51
Nice flag
2020-07-07 21:01
Nice cock Wait what?
2020-07-07 22:18
Reported for gay
2020-07-07 23:11
#106
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France tostos
Reported for being not gay, wtf men(((
2020-07-07 23:48
+1
2020-07-08 15:17
#187
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Brazil Jontsz
Don't even know why but I spent the last 3 minutes laughing about that.
2020-07-08 20:43
That was my point with the comment hahaha
2020-07-08 21:42
nice flag
2020-07-07 23:25
#109
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Sweden txshirx
nice flag
2020-07-07 23:50
Nice flag
2020-07-08 00:05
nice flag
2020-07-08 02:05
#123
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Other Ivangay
Nice flag
2020-07-08 02:19
#133
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Argentina WaSTe_D
I would like to write "nice fl*g" like everyone else, but some reason this jonathan E. guy keeps banning me for no apparent reason
2020-07-08 03:22
name checkouts
2020-07-08 03:23
ppl in this comment just being nice and supportive to other's flag so ... maybe no ban
2020-07-08 03:23
#136
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Argentina WaSTe_D
thx
2020-07-08 03:23
Nice flag bro
2020-07-08 04:55
#147
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Hungary Sklytsk
Nice flag
2020-07-08 09:17
Nice flag
2020-07-08 09:19
#149
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Germany Jupe_Z
Nice flag
2020-07-08 09:21
#188
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Brazil Jontsz
Nice flag
2020-07-08 20:43
Nice flag
2020-07-08 20:45
#199
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Latvia Natsuu1
Nice flag
2020-07-08 22:53
4. EG
2020-07-04 16:27
+1
2020-07-04 17:16
u're using the wrong flag, u should use the white one
2020-07-04 19:58
AHAHAHAAHAHA MADE MY DAY LMAO 8/8 SO HILARIOUS. BEST JOKE OF THE DECADE.
2020-07-04 20:01
#48
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Argentina iamNOTgay
XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD maximus trolleiro
2020-07-07 20:21
xddd bro u destroyed him like in 1814
2020-07-07 20:35
in 1812 yeah
2020-07-07 20:51
battle of paris mens))
2020-07-07 20:52
#32
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Romania sky27
+11111111111111
2020-07-04 20:01
marseille
2020-07-07 20:22
LUL Imagine saying Liquid when Fnatic and EG were top 1 for a week
2020-07-07 20:24
#56
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France tostos
Well now it's gotta be Big #1 though They won two online events and they become top1? n1 hltv
2020-07-07 20:26
I agree. BIG is literally top 1 with no lan wins at all lmao.
2020-07-07 20:27
and no lan success
2020-07-07 20:32
#161
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Argentina Joedash
Tier 1 LAN wins, cause they won tier 50 LAN events xd.
2020-07-08 10:43
True
2020-07-08 20:40
cry is free
2020-07-07 22:40
“fan of dignitas” HAAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAH liquid: 3 months of utter domination, 2nd highest team didn’t even have 500 points. that’s the most deserved top 1 if anything
2020-07-07 23:18
#105
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France tostos
>Utter domination >0-2 against Astralis @Berlin Major (16-8; 16-13) Pick one cry is free xxaxaxaxaxaxa
2020-07-07 23:41
"3 months" from may till august again, fan of dignitas AAHAHHAAAHHAHHA liquid 2019 would rape nip 2013 nt
2020-07-08 01:06
#118
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France tostos
they were top1 till the end of September, hallooooo? nt f0rest alphaest men)) username checks out
2020-07-08 01:28
they dominated from may till august, top 1 for longer and way better than eg during their stretch, navi in 2020, g2 in 2020, fnatic in 2020, and big in 2020
2020-07-08 03:32
Nope fam, astralis still the most dominant team ever.. also 3 month fluke cry is free xaxxaxaxax
2020-07-08 20:47
+1
2020-07-08 15:17
#2
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United States RAK47
1)naVi 2)liquid 3)EG
2020-07-04 16:26
Still mad lul
2020-07-04 16:35
#14
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France pol44r
+1
2020-07-04 16:46
#15
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United States jack4000
why?
2020-07-04 16:54
#37
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United States RAK47
Navi 1 fluke iem nothing else Eg wins tourni with help of audience then become shit Liquid lost to astralis to many times win big events but still no major And all three of them don't have major G2 can also be counted as undeserving top 1
2020-07-04 20:58
You only watched IEM?
2020-07-07 20:22
they dropped to t2 CIS teams like gambit youngsters -_-
2020-07-08 03:33
And? You didnt watch the other tournaments?
2020-07-08 10:36
After IEM Katowice 2020: 4th ESL Pro League Season 11: almost didnt make it out of initial groups(lost bo3s to north and big before winning a very close bo3 to forze, won a decently close bo3 to complexity, and beat fnatic in a bo3) in the second group stage, very strong performance(beat OG, faze, and most importantly astralis in bo3s but lost to fnatic in a rematch as well as to mouz) 7th-8th ESL Road to Rio: this result should never happen, not making playoffs in a region where NaVi is miles ahead of the other teams by ranking(beat ESPADA in a bo3, lost to VP in a close bo3, beat pro100 in a bo3, lost to Syman in a bo3, lost to Hard Legion in a close bo3) When the #1 team is CIS and then fails to make top 6 in CIS LUL 4th Dreamhack Spring Europe: This result is fair enough, but it's not enough to be considered top 1, definitely enough to be top 3 tho(NaVi beat Vita in a bo3, good win, lost to ENCE in a bo3, bad loss, beat NiP in a bo3, lost to G2 in a close bo3, destroyed MAD Lions in a bo3, lost to FaZe in a bo3) in this case, navi beat the teams that they were meant to beat and lost to the teams that they were meant to lose to(G2, FaZe) 4th BLAST European Finals: NaVi dropped the ball on this one, they had a real shot of getting top 2(NaVi beat NiP in a bo3, lose to Complexity in a bo3, beat g2 in a bo3, very good win, lost to vitality in a bo3) In conclusion, NaVi has a trend of 1. losing to CIS teams or having extremely close matches against them and 2. beating the teams they are supposed to beat and losing to teams they are supposed to lose to but also add one a few teams that just outplay NaVi(Gambit Youngsters, Syman, Complexity, ENCE)
2020-07-08 17:45
You forgot before Kato
2020-07-08 18:08
1st-3rd BLAST: lost to vita in bo3, beat astralis in bo3, beat vita in bo3, beat col in bo3(almost #1 type material here, only the loss to vita hurt them) 2nd ICE challenge: beat GODSENT in a close bo3, beat OG in a bo3, beat GODSENT in a bo3, lost to mouz in a bo5 5th-6th EPICENTER 2019: very weak performance from navi, only 8 teams in the entire tournament and one of them I hadn't even heard of was in their group(EHOME) who looked entirely outmatched, beat Heroic in a bo3, lost to vita in a bo3, beat heroic in a bo3, lost to EG in a bo3(declining EG btw) 3rd-4th ESL Pro League Season 10: NaVi lucked out this tourney, 1. Played MIBR over FaZe because MIBR beat them in a close bo1, 2. Played EG over fnatic because a declining EG beat them in a bo1, 3. Was not put in the same group as either Astralis or Liquid(the top 2 teams at the time) NaVi beat TYLOO in a bo1, beat MIBR in a bo3, beat EG in a bo3, lost to fnatic in a bo3, could've easily been a group stage exit if either Astralis or Liquid had been in their side of the bracket or if faze had beaten mibr in a bo1 13th-16th StarSeries Season 8: Dead last at a big tourney, lost to g2 in a bo3(g2 less than a month after going international and having to adapt to english callouts and igling), lost to heroic in a bo3 IN conclusion, these results are not the results of a top 1 team
2020-07-08 18:58
When they got top1 after Kato they were the most consistent team in 2020. Then online started
2020-07-08 19:10
for 3 events they were the best team, then they dropped off when online hit, you cant change the fact that cs went online and navi dropped off
2020-07-08 19:23
I can't, but you can't change the fact that Na'Vi deserved top1
2020-07-08 19:30
they deserve top 1 for 2-3 events for 1 mont which is less than liquid/eg, however g2/fnatic/big are less deserving of top 1 than navi
2020-07-08 19:31
Why is Liquid more undeserving than EG? They won more events than EG in that time and they beat Astralis during ESL Pro league S10.
2020-07-07 20:26
they didnt beat astralis at epl s10??? they lost 2-1 in the Upper bracket final
2020-07-08 03:18
anyways i agree that liquid>>>>>>>>eg in #1 placing
2020-07-08 03:33
#99
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United States clockworkk
>EG > help of audience pick one retard
2020-07-07 23:16
liquid during summer of 2019: 1000 pts 2nd best team had less than 500 points nt
2020-07-07 23:19
liquid beat astralis twice before the major
2020-07-08 03:33
true big wrong true
2020-07-04 21:00
Still ignorant. Still challenged. Bandwagon of LULSTRALIS and onlinew0o lmao
2020-07-08 00:01
when neither big nor g2 is above liquid -_-
2020-07-08 03:17
Literally every time Navi has been first LOL
2020-07-04 16:27
NaVi first for winning some bet trash tournament xdddddd niceone.
2020-07-04 17:24
+1
2020-07-04 18:16
Navi were top 1 and then they lost to all of CIS in the RMR tournament lmaoo
2020-07-07 20:32
Bad team xd
2020-07-07 22:14
They weren’t even top1 at this point. Yeah it is called anti strat. But what do you expect from an ignorant chokequid fanboi
2020-07-08 00:02
#125
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Latvia IzzoR
how shit is your team to get antistratted by cis t2?!?!?!?!?!?!? you should be able to win with 0 strats and just pure aim but oh wait thats not how NAVI works. they are 2 players and 3 decoys. ffs such a dogshit team lmao
2020-07-08 02:24
Why some random silver bandwagon speaking ? You started watching cs in 2018. Dogshit team that destroyed your overrated LULSTRALIS and didn’t lose to them once in 2020. HoW sHiT iS yOuR tEaM iF iT gEtS DeMoLiShEd bY sOmE NaVi tEaM wHiCh gEtS aNtiSTrAtEd bY sOmE t2 CiS tEaMs LmAo ???? Ffs such a dogshit team
2020-07-08 09:14
#170
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Latvia IzzoR
they are dogshit period. ive been watching way longer kid and they are the definition of fluke. if you google fluke they will give NAVI as the result. but nt.
2020-07-08 16:37
Wishful thinking
2020-07-08 22:51
So salty my dude. 90% of HLTV thinks that Navi fucked up when they were top 1.
2020-07-08 20:39
They weren’t top1 during CIS RtR, fact. The only way NaVi fucked up was bc of the scene went online. Still so delusional. I don’t care what 90% of this cancerous eutarded community thinks. They are in the same denial state as you. Always wrong. When hltv kids say NaVi was a fluke - it means they weren’t.
2020-07-08 22:53
fan of Astralis. Expected malding Btw, when was the last time Astralis won against NaVi
2020-07-08 09:40
+1
2020-07-08 20:39
Name a team that didn’t choke this year (except big they are gods)
2020-07-08 01:34
0/8, keep malding
2020-07-08 00:02
Eg navi g2
2020-07-04 16:29
#8
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Sri Lanka khorkalba
It's hard to argue about G2: Online CS No Astralis to compete with Lose every final they're in Somehow still made it to #1 Coincidentally their star player kennyS has only ever been #1 in the eyes of his fanboys too.
2020-07-04 16:33
imo best player of 2014 and even after had times where he was the best awper and player in the world.
2020-07-04 20:03
#47
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Bulgaria goshyy
Kenny was 6th best player in 2014, get_right was the best player.
2020-07-07 20:21
lmao.
2020-07-07 20:43
#160
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Germany 'ezpz
wtf, this #1 was a joke. 2014 kennyS deserved #1 the most, even flusha #1 and kennyS #2 would've been fine.
2020-07-08 10:42
#50
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Germany _PH1L
Start living in these dayz mens
2020-07-07 20:22
He was the best AWPer*, not the best player. GeT_RiGhT and flusha was clearly better than kennyS.
2020-07-08 09:25
EG 2019 and fnatic 2020 was a thing for a week
2020-07-04 16:34
#16
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United States jack4000
I know?
2020-07-04 16:58
Teams like Mousesports, EG, G2 and Fnatic imo in the last year.
2020-07-04 16:42
Mousesports were never number one on HLTV rankings
2020-07-04 16:43
Mouz peaked at #2 and then fell off HARD
2020-07-07 20:33
they should of been 1 but Astralis had built up a lot of points, also had one of the biggest fall offs in recent memory
2020-07-07 20:35
no EG bad list
2020-07-04 16:43
#17
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Turkey AstralisUP
EG EG EG LIQUID
2020-07-04 17:00
You put Liquid above Fnatic????? They were top 1 for a week lmaooo.
2020-07-07 20:28
#73
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Norway MD!
Flair checks out. EG was the only team able to beat astralis and probably the only team that has a positive matchup against them.
2020-07-07 20:38
why liquid? they won the grand slam (a prize bigger then a 1st place in a major) in 63 days. Btw it took astralis 323 days :). there are teams like g2 or fnatic that, are good teams but don't fit in the no1 spot by their placement in S tier tournaments, I like astralis, but liquid definitly deserved their no1 spot /closed
2020-07-07 20:39
winning 6 events in a row and people want to hate, also won 22 or something series in a row, second most of all time, just behind nip's 24
2020-07-08 03:19
#20
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Japan Peine
G2 deserved it, they were the best and most consistent team, but they dropped level the last two events Vitality is playing insane and beat everyone Nip 2016 The most undeserved top 1 was EG, they got top 1 from a dead event and after that had 20% win rate
2020-07-04 17:21
#28
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United States jack4000
G2 is only the biggest joke in esports history, nothing more Vitality is only playing well because their coach is calling LOL EG was dominant and won two big events. They are so overhated.
2020-07-04 19:51
#42
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Japan Peine
Vitality coach don't call to not take bad habits EG dominant ? American fan checkout
2020-07-05 00:44
#151
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Australia z3ro_
Dominant in NA doesn't really mean much, meanwhile G2 was consistently 2nd lots of times (although I do agree that g2 didn't really deserve it a lot). It wasn't that they were really good, but they were better than basically all the other teams and were pretty consistent at that time.
2020-07-08 09:29
Algorithms don't care about your feelings
2020-07-04 17:25
#29
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United States jack4000
has nothing to do with this thread but ok!
2020-07-04 19:56
Nice IQ
2020-07-04 19:59
nice iq
2020-07-07 20:37
nice iq
2020-07-07 22:19
nice IQ
2020-07-08 10:47
nice iq
2020-07-08 20:47
+1 Finally someone saying something sensible on hltv
2020-07-08 09:41
navi
2020-07-04 18:20
Next rank is LULstralis kick out from top 10!!! Great news for cs
2020-07-04 18:21
Cry is free xaxxaxaxax.. cry more when they again become #1
2020-07-08 20:51
1: EG 2: G2 3: NaVi's recent number 1 4: Liquid simply because they were #1 when everyone else were either not playing or in a massive slump 5: Pick any team that had week or two at #1 but never kept it
2020-07-04 20:02
I think your 4/5 should be switched. They atleast kept top 1 for 4 months compared to 1 week Fnatic and EG.
2020-07-07 20:30
There's little point in counting one week number 1s in general, the only reason why I included Na'Vi and G2 is the delusional idea that they suddently were true number 1s. I stick by Liquid though as appart from vitality and ence everyone else were either semi inactive (astralis) going through changes (Na'Vi and FaZe among others) or just being plain shit like fnatic with xizt.
2020-07-07 23:50
liquid still beat astralis twice in their "era" as well as not dropping a bo3 at a big event from iem sydney to iem chicago(20+ bo3s)
2020-07-08 03:29
Liquid argument LMAO Only team in slump was Astralis. You noob
2020-07-07 20:54
#85
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CIS kryto203
The argument isnt that bad. Astralis at slump, navi going through changes and training a new igl, ence was pretty good at that moment, yeah, vitality only started to gain expierence at big events, dead g2 with shox and faze with no igl at all. Iirc there was not as much competition at all but i think liquid number 1 still was deserved and shouldnt be close to this list at all
2020-07-07 21:16
That's a great list 8/8 To all the people saying Na'Vi, look at yourself in the mirror, and ask yourself, "what went wrong in my life?"
2020-07-04 20:03
1) Navi
2020-07-08 03:08
#39
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Czech Republic Prevodovka
baitzera
2020-07-04 21:00
i mean G2 is obv they struggle but why vitality ? they good rn winning almost everything
2020-07-04 21:03
+1, they complain about navi when navi won at least smth, when g2 playing very bad rn, vitality only became good on blast
2020-07-04 21:06
#44
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Hungary subzera
navi natus vincere navi natus vincere navi natus vincere navi natus vincere navi natus vincere navi natus vincere navi natus vincere navi natus vincere navi natus vincere
2020-07-07 20:14
#45
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Nepal sasukeee
Vitality lol they don't even deserve no 2 😂
2020-07-07 20:17
#46
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Denmark Jeffersond
why is no one saying BIG?!? Theyre the worst #1 ever lol
2020-07-07 20:21
#51
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Denmark Jeffersond
Okay maybe not the worst ever but it’s not a true image of the scene... I like BIG, but they arent the best in the world
2020-07-07 20:22
True Winning 2 online events = Top 1 = BIG era Yikes.
2020-07-07 20:31
0/8
2020-07-07 22:37
#59
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Europe Drofwer
yeah
2020-07-07 20:27
1. BUG
2020-07-07 20:33
0/8
2020-07-07 22:37
Click it if ur BiG fan
2020-07-08 02:11
+1
2020-07-08 09:32
1. eg 2. g2 3. big 4. fnatic
2020-07-07 20:47
that #1 EG team was way better than any of these other #1s, esp big
2020-07-07 22:16
Navi were better, even big better
2020-07-07 22:20
navi > eg
2020-07-08 10:15
you didn't list Na'Vi above
2020-07-09 01:28
berlin international gaming
2020-07-07 22:39
1. eg 2. nip 2016 3. fnatic 2020
2020-07-07 23:16
1. G2 2. NiP 2016 3. SK in September/October 2016 4. EG 5. NAVI
2020-07-07 23:21
Tbf NiP in 2016 kicked everyones ass and looked like they were on top of the world until the next week
2020-07-07 23:22
was that following their win at iem oakland
2020-07-08 03:31
exactly, they seemed like they were on top of the world. Go rewatch Oakland 2016 if you forgot. FaZe (in the semi) played great, and NiP bested them. And in the final against SK it was one hell of a show. SK didn't choke, or play bad. SK played wonderfully, a wonderful mixture of individual talent and strategy and preparation. NiP just played great CS. They played everything to perfection, whether it was a retake on a site or a execute it was beautiful. The #1 was deserved, 100% They played some of the best CS you could imagine.
2020-07-08 07:34
Yes
2020-07-08 10:17
#107
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Panama Bill_Bait
1. BUG
2020-07-07 23:49
Astralis
2020-07-07 23:52
#111
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Finland HARD4ENCE
Has to be EG. They won ESL One New York and then almost completely dissapeared off the radar..
2020-07-07 23:59
Navi. That team do not deserve no1. That is not even a team. Always simple carrying and others baiting for him. Sick of it. Just build a team
2020-07-08 00:04
1. BIG (lucky win) 2. NiP (1 tournament era) 3. FaZe 2018
2020-07-08 02:15
1) Astralis (entire 2018) 2) Astralis (from january 2019 to may 2019) 3) Astralis (rest 2019 and may 2020) Any thoughts? I dont think so! Ofc everyone agree with me That's it
2020-07-08 02:21
Hmm hmm hmm OK
2020-07-08 20:54
Navi last week
2020-07-08 02:55
BIG cuz online era
2020-07-08 03:13
0/8
2020-07-08 10:22
#132
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Indonesia rezrex
EG
2020-07-08 03:22
Flukus for sure. Very trashy team
2020-07-08 04:53
Who
2020-07-08 10:17
flukus botus
2020-07-08 15:46
Flukus botsere
2020-07-08 20:54
#162
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Denmark dyinbyran
EG Obviously
2020-07-08 10:43
EG NaVi BIG
2020-07-08 10:43
1. G2 2. Fnatic who cars
2020-07-08 10:45
Evil Geniuses and NaVi (last week)
2020-07-08 10:47
shit'vi (last week)
2020-07-08 16:40
EG last year
2020-07-08 18:09
#175
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France Niinyop
Navi last week
2020-07-08 18:16
1.Navi 2.Navi 3. Fnatic at the beginning of online
2020-07-08 19:17
#179
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Slovakia weedko222
-Nip +Eg
2020-07-08 19:19
Obviously BI_IG? lol
2020-07-08 19:31
EG and navi Liquid was okay
2020-07-08 20:55
Rooster
2.65
AVANT
1.46
BIG
1.45
Heroic
2.74
Cloud9
4.12
Liquid
1.22
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