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Australia Denial123 
Teams that will go up and down after online > = up < = down = = same NaVi = Vitality < G2 = FaZe < Fnatic = Furia < BIG < EG > Astralis < if the roster is kept the same Liquid > Comp < mouse > NIP = MIBR < SPIRIT < MAD LIONS < ENCE > Geng > 100T > C9 < OG > VP > Heroic < Nemiga < ForZe < Heretics < North > GODSENT > HARD < HAVU <
2020-07-05 05:48
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United States ShawnM
Col is better on lan likely
2020-07-05 05:49
2020-07-05 06:53
They've never done shit on lan, you're just making assumptions
2020-07-05 09:39
blast groups where they beat like astralis and navi?
2020-07-05 09:47
Greece sifounasGG
they didnt beat navi but yeh
2020-07-05 12:07
0/8 they demolished prime astralis in lan
2020-07-05 09:48
one bo3 doesnt mean shit + we haven't seen prime astralis since a long time lol, imagine thinking prime astralis would lose to this kind of team
2020-07-05 12:22
you are a huge idiot holy shit
2020-07-07 08:24
#64 got you good
2020-07-07 08:46
??????? lmao
2020-07-07 09:58
Denmark dyinbyran
You're the kind of guy who would say a 2-1 match with double ots in all three map as a domination by one team Btw how tf is 2020 astralis ,prime astralis ? You're ret*****
2020-07-05 15:17
maybe i exagerated but they were good in lan
2020-07-05 16:58
Denmark dyinbyran
yes i agree , col is a solid team i think it doesnt matter if its lan or online
2020-07-05 18:49
people still calling complexity onliners LUL
2020-07-05 05:52
biggest onliners lol
2020-07-05 06:46
beat vitality and astralis on lan btw
2020-07-05 06:50
renegades have beaten astralis on mirage at major and beat teams on lan that were just as good I still didn't think they were top 10 just because u beat 2 teams does not mean u can suddenly claim to be top 10.
2020-07-05 09:28
100Trash took Astralis permaban off them, and have done literally nothing after robbing OCE of talent.
2020-07-05 09:57
Stfu nerd
2020-07-05 22:36
I think ence is a team that will bounce up so much with lan, they are all lan players, and benefits a lot by lan ping aswell because of how they play. Also complexity is 100% lan team lmao
2020-07-05 05:53
I don't really like Ence but I agree with them being good at LAN.
2020-07-05 06:46
Does Germany has better ping, just asking??
2020-07-05 05:55
No they just have superior genetics
2020-07-05 06:53
United Kingdom iXuhi
German internet is one of the best in the world.
2020-07-05 09:33
2020-07-05 09:54
United Kingdom iXuhi
2020-07-05 10:08
No one is stopping you from providing a better source for your claims.
2020-07-05 11:21
United Kingdom iXuhi
I just thought it was, and anyways. People change wikipedia to things that are wrong all the time, admins just check if its a troll or not. I was wrong
2020-07-05 11:54
lmao turkey 75
2020-07-05 10:51
Dude German Internet is average at best
2020-07-05 10:22
United Kingdom iXuhi
i thought it was good?
2020-07-05 10:35
In some places yes, overall no I guess it's "good" but surely not best in the world
2020-07-05 10:38
United Kingdom iXuhi
was it better years ago? I could swear it was one of the best at one point
2020-07-05 10:40
No, a few years ago it was even worse overall :D Currently the government is in a process to modernize the connections
2020-07-05 11:02
United Kingdom iXuhi
oh, right. my bad. I thought it was better lmao
2020-07-05 11:54
Please stop right there. You can't travel in Germany without having some moments where you'll get into a hole w/o Wi-Fi. It's Hella expensive compared to other countries and the internet sometimes is very inconsistent. Countries like Romania have much better internet than we do.
2020-07-07 07:59
col is a better lan team wat
2020-07-05 06:05
col is trash
2020-07-05 06:46
username sums up what you're feeling
2020-07-05 06:47
yes it sure does :(
2020-07-05 06:50
United States notawaffle
North is just trash in general, probably sitting still
2020-07-05 06:12
Yeah but there experienced players so they will probs handle pressure on lan better.
2020-07-05 06:50
Dignitas might be able to come in top 30 if we go back to LAN =)))
2020-07-05 09:33
Also I think NiP will drop in form when we go to LAN, right now they have THREAT to call, and he is a fucking tactical genius =/ If he cant call then NiP wont be as organized
2020-07-05 09:37
Navi will go down. They won’t be playing cis meme teams like gambit youngsters all the time.
2020-07-05 09:34
They cant beat CIS meme teams anymore haha. When we were on LAN they were one of the best teams in the world, and they were competing against top opponents. They have to get better when we go back to offline CS
2020-07-05 09:38
2020-07-05 11:29
Well basically we will have the ranking from before corona back, no secret
2020-07-05 09:41
on lan bug is tier6
2020-07-05 09:49
Fnatic will go up imo cuz they are pretty bad online, same with astralis.
2020-07-05 10:00
Switzerland Schwandi
All tier 1 teams will go up. All tier 2 teams will go down. Just based on motiviation. Tier 1 teams don't care about Online coin flips while tier 2 teams are hungry to finally win anything at all.
2020-07-05 10:12
Vitality top 1
2020-07-05 10:29
Europe N3sHie1k
2020-07-05 10:34
xaxaxa ZywOo top 1 and Vitality top 1 p0mple top 2 and Na'Vi top 10
2020-07-05 10:55
Europe N3sHie1k
2020-07-05 21:42
Vitality played like shit today but offline Na'Vi are t2, BIG T4 and Vitality t1
2020-07-05 21:42
Europe N3sHie1k
lan navi > online navi, you know that
2020-07-05 22:36
btw ZywOo 1.39 at summit nt
2020-07-05 21:42
Bro, Vitality will go down anyway cuz on LAN they won't be so good against T1 teams
2020-07-05 11:32
lol they will why are you so fucking dumb ?
2020-07-05 11:33
lol, another aggressive ZywOo fanboy 0 facts, only stupid replies Remember Kato 2020 and Blast Spring 2020: Regular Season (When it was on LAN)
2020-07-05 11:43
Not the same LU Only 2 events NaVi fluke first 3 months every year NaVi better rest of the year
2020-07-05 11:44
but vitality onliner and choked every online final
2020-07-07 08:00
Not onliners wtf
2020-07-07 08:02
Greece Petsos
that was months ago xD Vitality has improved a lot since then
2020-07-05 17:01
Europe N3sHie1k
navi up
2020-07-05 10:34
Higher than 1st place?😂
2020-07-05 11:34
Europe N3sHie1k
2020-07-05 22:35
Navi up for sure They are playing online almost after 2 years And you know what happened in blast spring and kato Liquid up omegalul they play VaLoRaNt more than cs now
2020-07-05 10:37
Higher than 1st place?😂
2020-07-05 12:07
Hmm they can not be seen as 1st Vitality is climbing as well as G2 On lan yep they are 1st
2020-07-05 15:12
Denmark dyinbyran
He didn't talk about hltv rankings ,he is talking about the performance lol ,navi won't be nr 1 once vitality wins the cs summit so does it mean that vitality is better than navi hvh wise ? No one knows
2020-07-05 15:19
"Teams that will go up and down". I think it means that the teams will go up and down in the rankings. If he said about performance, NaVi won't be at the same game level lol. They will play much better, as well as Astralis, Fnatic and other best teams
2020-07-05 15:34
Denmark dyinbyran
If he meant the rankings then that guy is stupid lol
2020-07-05 18:50
fnatic is much better on lan
2020-07-05 10:41
do you understand that u chose way more teams going down that ones going up?
2020-07-05 10:54
No logic, expected from Na'Vi fan tbh
2020-07-05 11:17
He obviously meant they will go down in form, not rankings. Expected from baguette
2020-07-05 18:53
I know That's why I said that they won't drop off Fucking dumbfuck
2020-07-05 19:08
Then your comment still makes no sense as a reply to #42 as it is logically possible for the amount of teams to go down in form be higher then the amountbof teams going up. And people s0mple fans are dumb, looks like ZyWho fans are no better 😂
2020-07-05 19:17
ZywOo fans bestest like GODWOO
2020-07-05 19:22
Faze is better on lan
2020-07-05 11:18
2020-07-05 11:19
Sweden raveN4s[A]
fnatic >>>>
2020-07-05 11:34
United States clockworkk
complexity down when LAN comes back? rofl ok they were way better on LAN
2020-07-05 15:13
Vitality has been nearly flawless since they got together on bootcamp nt
2020-07-05 15:14
Turkey PhauX
Actually Navi is not even top5 at LAN.
2020-07-05 15:30
"MIBR <" is that even possible? xd
2020-07-05 15:35
Greece Petsos
Stop with the Lan excuse , im sure it has impact on the teams but every team will be almost the same since they have been playing online for months now
2020-07-05 17:03
I don't have enough imagination to figure out how can mibr be even worse afterwards.
2020-07-05 22:39
Because MIBR disbands men’s and they sucked before online then online came around then out of knowwhere they start beating teams
2020-07-07 07:52
Pretty solid list in my book. GJ
2020-07-05 22:40
2020-07-07 07:51
good list imo cant wait to see liquid destroy everyone once lan returns again
2020-07-07 08:03
+111111111 agreed
2020-07-07 08:06
You can probably turn the rankings back to whatever they were after Katowice and with some changes based on form and current motivation levels see where things will be.
2020-07-07 08:11
Navi and fnatic >>>>>>>>>>>>
2020-07-07 08:17
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