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Ronaldinho is Overrated
shrek | 
Brazil Lulzilian 
Ronaldinho is the most overrated footballer of all time. He isn’t a top 10 player and is always remembered by flashes of dominance, while still being unable to fulfill his potential. Seeing players such as Ronaldo or Messi being compared to him is baffling and to think he’s the GOAT is utterly delusional. Now I ask you: do you disagree? If so, can you make a valid point to undermine Ronaldinho being extremely overrated outside of “huh he dribles good”, if dribbling won games, players such as Neymar or Denilson Show would have won 3 World Cups. /discuss
2020-07-05 22:16
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Ronaldinho is like KQLY of csgo. Lots of potential but retired early
2020-07-05 22:19
Except he didn't cheat?
2020-07-05 22:20
who?
2020-07-05 22:22
Ronaldinho
2020-07-05 22:22
neither of them cheated in profession matches
2020-07-05 22:24
KQLY = Cheater Ronaldinho = Not Why do you compare them?
2020-07-05 22:24
doesn't matter what you do in free time. You cant cheat of pro matches tho
2020-07-05 22:25
You make no sense, you know that?
2020-07-05 22:26
You know that KQLY got VAC ban? You can get vac ban by cheating in matchmaking
2020-07-05 22:30
Prove that he hasn't cheated in pro matches. And no, don't turn it around on me, he has been convicted for cheating so there's enough suspicion to assume he's cheated in pro matches as well.
2020-07-05 22:31
Wtf. You have to prove that he HAS cheated. How the hell can I prove that he hasn't if he has not?
2020-07-05 22:33
He has VAC ban + he got when he was already playing in the pro scene is enough evidence for me to assume he's cheated in the pro scene unless you can prove me otherwise. Assume I caught Lance Armstrong doping in his practice rides, you just assume that he's never done it in competition? And that's even a bad example since cycling anti-doping is much much more advanced than csgo tournament anti-cheats in 2014 lol.
2020-07-05 22:37
>He has VAC ban + he got when he was already playing in the pro scene is enough evidence for me to assume he's cheated in the pro scene unless you can prove me otherwise. That's not evidence. And your Armstrong analogy makes no sense because in sports you never dope DURING a race lmao. KQLY cheating in his free time doesn't affect his performance in pro matches.
2020-07-05 22:42
You don't have to cheat during the race to get caught???? The point is if he's cheating in his practice sessions he's 99% doing it in the races as well, same as KQLY. Stop trying to defend a cheater.
2020-07-05 23:14
#200
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Finland Kujis
Prove that Ronaldinho did not cheat, you cant.
2020-07-06 08:09
Prove that Ronaldinho did cheat, you can`t.
2020-07-06 16:27
that's not how it works. You cant compare doping in sports to cheating in meaningless matchmaking game
2020-07-07 11:05
You can never compare these two. With doping you can get the extra 1-2% that makes you top1 in a sport. With cheating in a virtual game you could actually be superman out of nowhere (for sure this way everybody would know immediatly, but still)
2020-07-17 13:10
after reading your comments here, am not surprised that youre an aleksib fan
2020-08-01 15:53
Wait so because kqly said that, you believed him ? Lmao
2020-08-04 19:18
You have proof of the opposite?
2020-08-04 20:33
Well its not hard to assume that he used it in pro play, tell me why would he only hack on pugs and risk his career that way
2020-08-05 05:24
because it's fun? Why would he risk his career by cheating in a pro game? Thats just stupid.
2020-08-05 16:54
you are risking your career in a pug match as well what? are you retarded ? lmao
2020-08-05 19:36
cool story newfag, KQLY is an idol for young morons
2020-07-05 23:25
What?? Also imagine being on this fucking forum for 12 year lmfao you must have a sad life
2020-07-05 23:44
i have a 3rd wife than u trashtalking about kid, and Im very glad that u worry about me, but from this u didnt become dumber
2020-07-06 00:27
#203
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Romania Iosif
So you are attacking the guy that said KQLY is a cheater by saying he is an idol for young "morons". Bitch, wtf is wrong with you?
2020-07-06 09:44
hahahaha, probably cuz it is an online garbage dump that played with hax. nt choker
2020-07-06 10:31
#207
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Romania Iosif
Bro, you are truly stupid. You do realise that the guy you first insulted said the same thing about KQLY right? Stop drinking and maybe your wives won't leave you from now on.
2020-07-06 11:01
Ahaha +1
2020-07-06 11:30
romania talking about, u and ur 2nd acc is really kidding, one plus one = one. knew? not try to prove the opposite, again choke lul.
2020-07-06 15:43
dude ur dumb
2020-07-06 20:05
#377
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Romania Iosif
There are already 4 people saying you are dumb, you better stop and go to sleep or smth
2020-07-06 20:54
#376
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United States Amerika!
Oldfag lol
2020-07-06 20:37
its actually fucking sad that you believe kqly would cheat on matchmaking. pro player and cheating in mm? he doesnt need to cheat, and if he would. he wouldve made a new account if it was just for mm. you are braindead retard
2020-08-05 19:39
he may have injected shit like that cyclist guy did, dont say that u cant cheat in pro football lmao, how mindless
2020-07-06 01:28
0/8
2020-07-06 15:34
Ronaldinho dribbling was basically cheating, ask Ramos(( youtu.be/Eh0NPsBXeHw
2020-07-05 22:27
Well Valve have not showed what they banned KQLY for. Could be just a manual ban because other pros cried and pressured them in to it.
2020-07-05 22:35
vac is not manual.
2020-07-05 22:38
Oh vac is open source now? Could easily just vac ban him by pressing a button. Or just change the secret vac ban threshold to something so specific the person you are targeting gets one. Unless they open source it and then show how, when and why the ban came, it can be petty personal decisions or even corruption.
2020-07-05 22:42
My uncle works at valve
2020-07-05 22:42
Nice try kukli
2020-07-17 13:17
You can’t cheat on VAR secured servers
2020-07-06 14:08
+1
2020-07-06 14:10
:DD
2020-08-01 16:03
Ronaldinho retired at the age of 35, that´s not that early.
2020-07-05 22:22
#284
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Denmark Notallama
Retired early? ROFL
2020-07-06 15:20
#441
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China KoreanFan
LMFAO. Would be true if Ronaldinho cheated.
2020-07-17 15:12
ronaldinho didnt retired early, he stoped playing on t1 early also kqly didnt retire, he got VAC
2020-08-01 15:02
idiot
2020-08-04 19:01
the thing that he didnt fulfill his potential doesnt mean that he wasnt awesome player. he was surely one of the best players individually in history but yea nowhere near the goat ofc
2020-07-05 22:21
Yes, he’s one of the greats, but people overrate/overhype him way too much. Overrated=/bad. +1
2020-07-31 17:14
i mean he is the goat ye , he is legendary , in that short amount of time before the injury he made himself known in the entire world even ppl that dont follow football know him. Thats goat lvl
2020-07-31 22:09
He isn't the goat. Just no
2020-08-01 03:37
U are a fucking stat padder , lmao .
2020-08-01 14:47
wut?
2020-08-01 14:53
They only reasson u are not putting him in the goat category is beacuse how short his prime was ? Which means u appreciate the stats more than the actual form and skill
2020-08-01 14:54
yes ofc. if we are talking about the goat=the greatest of ALL TIME you have to consider relevancy... he was individually one of the best without a doubt but not even close to being the greatest of ALL TIME
2020-08-01 14:56
No the greatest of all time means how known u are and what impact u left after ur career , and in his prime he was greatest of all time for atleast 10 years . Yes OBV AS WE PROGRESS PLAYERs GET BETTER BUT GOAT IS NOT LITERALLY GREATEST OF ALL TIME ITS GREATEST AT HIS TIME U CANT BE GREATEST OF ALL TIME ITS IMPOSSIBLE U DUMBASS HE IS ONE OF THE LEGENDS AND GOATS OF THE GAME PERIOD
2020-08-01 15:40
you clearly dont know what the goat means...and please more caps lock. i can see you malding lmao... no, ronaldinho isnt the goat at all. now another nerdreage please
2020-08-01 15:41
You are such a dumb statpadder , u rly think goat means literally goat LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO. Goat is something u use as a term to appreciate the game , ppl u call goats right now wont be the goats in like 10 years but that doesnt deny the fact that at THEIR TIME THEY WERE GOATS .
2020-08-01 15:43
ahahahahah so mad lmao. you didnt dissapoint me with your baby rage. stay clueless:)
2020-08-01 15:44
Yes now u are calling me dumb cause u have nothing against my point cause u are just a brainless hater .
2020-08-01 15:45
hater:D? he is my fav player BY FAR...but he is nowhere near the goat. learn the difference between the best and the greatest... enough. i dont want you cry even more so im rather out of here. bye and stay deluded
2020-08-01 15:46
He never had injury problems, wtf are you on? Any fact to back up the “GOAT” claim or just delusion from a fanboy?
2020-08-01 15:02
Are u retarded ? He literally got injured which caused him having problems with weight on top and ruined his career in the future . Thats why Barca sold him aswell .
2020-08-01 15:37
No. He just didn’t showed at practices and started getting fat because of his shit work ethic. Guardiola and the board disliked it and then sold him to Milan, where he was an even bigger fiasco. Nice try, tho.
2020-08-01 15:39
Because he got injured yes , this is what happends when u are on top of ur game this early on , we are not talking about that , we are talking about his form in his prime . And how many ppl he made fall in love with his game NOONE IN THE WORLD can do it the same way that Ronaldinho did , i dont care about his work ethic and shit , he got his golden ball he got championship wins and he made everyone love football which noone in the world can do nowadays .
2020-08-01 15:42
Ok, so which catastrophic injury he had? Oh, yes: Shit mentality. Now stop giving excuses because you’re a delusional fanboy.
2020-08-01 15:46
I dont care what mentality he had and what other stuff he had , this is not a point of this conversation. He is one of the gaots of the game PERIOD , he is the one ppl think of when ppl talk about legends of football , he is the one ppl know even without following football . He is the one ppl talk high about . And he is the one ppl forever remember .
2020-08-01 15:48
Ok, I see, Ronaldinho is prob your father or something, lol. You get the most delusional fan of the day award with a total of 0 arguments and lvl 100 of delusional fanboyism!
2020-08-01 15:49
Btw, great to see that you stopped lying to yourself about Ronaldinho getting injured, maybe in few years you won’t be this big of a cock rider, lol.
2020-08-01 15:51
pretty much this...he has no clue at all. ronaldinho is my fav player by far but his dedication was horrible. he was partying a lot and kinda threw his potential away
2020-08-01 15:43
LMAO now kiss both of you . BTW u are the minority in this conversation.
2020-08-01 15:44
yea i will kill myself bcs of random kid on hltv forum:DD more tears please
2020-08-01 15:45
Who said u should kys? Wait so are u an emo kid? Well u should have said that earlier i wouldnt even try to reply to you
2020-08-01 15:46
Ok, and? This just proves my point: Ronaldinho is overrated. There are tons of his fanboys here but none of them could make a valid point to why hems the GOAT, instead they just fanboyed over him just like you did. I know you’re mad because I called out your daddy, but there’s no reason to cry this hard.
2020-08-01 15:52
Dude, why is a retired footballers legacy so important to you?
2020-07-05 22:22
Reply needs to have actual content
2020-07-05 22:22
+1 very skilled but terrible mindset and wasn't a top player for long very high skill peak tho
2020-07-05 22:22
#455
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Brazil sakaaa
why do you say he had (or has) terrible mindset?
2020-07-17 20:46
he liked to party too much for a footballer and other stuff like that
2020-07-31 18:33
ronaldinho in his prime was the best and he will always be the goat with such a big impact as a middle field player not like every striker
2020-07-05 22:22
Ronaldinho was a winger and offensive midfielder, almost the same way Neymar plays now, except that Ney has way better numbers while doing the same role
2020-07-05 22:24
so what did neymar won compared to ronaldinho?
2020-07-05 22:28
Only title Neymar haven´t won is the WC, but even in the Brazil´s team, Neymar´s number are far above of Ronaldinho´s ones, just a reminder that R10 was one of the worst players in 2006 and 2010 for Brazil.
2020-07-05 22:32
ronaldinho won the most important title with his country and won the ballon d´or so dont try to argue that neymar is better
2020-07-05 22:34
No, Ronaldinho won while being carried by Ronaldo and Rivaldo in the attack and Cafu in the defense, Neymar´s 15-16 season is better than any season Ronaldinho ever had
2020-07-05 22:37
so where is his ballon dór and his wc title
2020-07-05 22:47
0/8 horrible bait WC= Neymar´s best teammate in Brazil´s team is fucking Coutinho, lol, in 2014 alone he had more goals and assists than Ronaldinho in all WCs Ballon D´Or = Messi and CR7 are basically unbeatable ( Modric was a robbery and you know it), Neymar´s 14-15 season has better stats and titles than Ronaldinho ballon d or season.
2020-07-05 22:53
talking about bait makes you look like a max 18 year old not grown boy who cant discuss properly. so what? best player like c.ronaldo won with portugal a europe title and who was the best player? yeah exactly maybe pepe lmao
2020-07-06 14:55
Ok, and? If you want to talk about impact in their national team alone, Ozil is bigger than Ronaldinho, LOL. You refuted every single point that you made claiming Ronaldinho is even close to the level of Ronaldo and Messi and you want to say I can’t discuss? Cry is free, kid.
2020-07-06 14:56
This Brazilian guy is an idiot. Trying to compare Neymar with Ronaldinho LMAO...
2020-07-10 19:35
yeah, kids cant just compare stats if you didnt saw him on real life with his magic..
2020-07-10 20:45
he is at most 18 years old for sure, he never saw Ronaldinho live probably base his assumptions from youtube videos. When you see the entire world loving a player and stopping to watch him play you know he is special. He literally carried a very weak barça team full of nonamers to UCL. Sure you will bring xavi,etoo and etc you only dont take into account is that they were not at that time what they became later in their carrers.
2020-07-31 21:49
“They were not” what? Etoo as literally the leading striker for the Barca side, not Ronaldinho. Besides that, stop discrediting that Barça team to push this delusion of Ronaldinho carrying. I remember pretty well how he carried Brazil in 2006, lol.
2020-08-01 15:07
go check who was the top goal scorer of the UCL for barça my delusional child, check also who was the top assists... please just shut up you are making yourself look stupid. Valdés Márquez Puyol (C) Oleguer Gio Edmílson Giuly Ronaldinho Deco van Bommel Eto'o None of this players are top 10 of their position besides Ronaldinho and Puyol, maybe etoo so please go drink your warm milk and go sleep. But since you are a child and think you know anything you probably will still think you are right but that's ok it is normal to be stupid in your age, just don't remain stupid. Bye
2020-08-01 17:01
Ok, it’s time to educate a delusional fanboy: UCL 05/06 Ronaldinho goals in knock out stage: 2 goals Eto’o goals in knockout stage: 3 goals (1 one of them being in the finals, where Ronaldinho disappeared, as he often does in finals) And wtf do you mean Eto’o was maybe top 10? The guy was undoubtedly one of the top 5 strikers in the world atm 34 goals, 10 assists in 46 games and you’re saying he was “maybe top 10”? KKKKKKK, Ronaldinho fans showing their delusion once again. Discrediting Deco, Márquez and Valdés just shows how delusional you’re and exposing yourself as someone who didn’t watch football at that time. Yes, Ronaldinho was the best player of the team, yes, he was the best player in 05/06, but this “carrying act” fallacy is false in so many levels that it’s laughable. Go back to watching ronaldinho highlights with edm in the background, son, real football isn’t for you.
2020-08-01 17:20
Great arguments, dude. Murica showing once again their knowledge in football.
2020-08-01 15:08
L M F A O LMFAO THIS NEYMACACO FAN IS SO FUCKING DELUSIONAL, OH MY GOD by the way you fucking braindead, Neymar's best season wasn't 15/16, but 15/14. Oh my god. You are so fucking braindamaged.. that's insane.
2020-08-03 03:00
#259
2020-08-03 12:08
hltv.org/forums/threads/2333734/ronaldin.. what is it with you, neymacaco fan?
2020-08-05 18:12
WTF! It's like saying that S1mple sucks because he can't carry 3 players to the victory.
2020-07-06 01:21
never said that neymar sucks but ronaldinho had an awesome legacy and won the most important cups and awards and neymar dont
2020-07-06 08:21
can´t answer #55, baiter?
2020-07-06 14:28
i can but you still ignore the fact that ronaldinho has won more then neymar so your argument is invalid
2020-07-06 14:53
Ok, so you can’t and you’re making up excuses?
2020-07-06 14:54
excuses that ronaldinho has won more then neymar will ever will cuz he dont have the mentality too succes only mentality for money
2020-07-06 14:55
Ok, Ronaldinho got carried by Ronaldo and Rivaldo and had a shit work ethic, great player goat!!1!!11
2020-07-06 14:57
who cares about ethic if he still sucessfull and most talented individual players who touched football
2020-07-06 14:58
No, he isn’t. Messi has a better dribbling rate, there are dozens of better strikers and passers than him, not to mention defense and goalkeeping. He isn’t the best in a single area of the game, so keep crying, kid.
2020-07-06 14:59
if you didnt watched him playing then stfu u are too young to saw his raw skill, making look the best defenders silly with his technique and movement
2020-07-06 16:22
haha, imagine going ful ad hominem because you can´t make a single valid pointkkkkkkkkkkkk
2020-07-06 16:35
bro your replies conclude my mention that you are not older then 16 year and trying to argue against a legacy of brazil legend ronaldinho, neymar will never have a legend status cuz all he has done is playing with messi and suarez in a magic triangle where everyone can make their goals ez, ronaldinho showed on many teams that he is capable of skills and individual performance with good assist and goals
2020-07-06 17:08
All you can do is cry and ad hominem? Really, lol.
2020-07-06 19:15
hominem, ok kid
2020-07-06 19:29
Glad you understand you got rekt :D
2020-07-06 19:43
actually no but you are out of arguments cuz u cant compare someone with nearly no trophies with someone with every trophy possible so the legacy of ronaldinho will never be taken away by a lil neymar fanboi like you
2020-07-06 19:46
Ok, say one trophy Ronaldinho has(without being carried, so no Milan nor WC trophies) that Neymar has not. Btw, Dani Alves has more trophies than Pelé, so I guess he’s bigger than him, LUL.
2020-07-06 19:48
ballon d´or? or did he won it because he got carried?
2020-07-06 19:49
Ok, now look at Neymar’s 2015-2016 season numbers and Ronaldinho’s Ballon D’Or season numbers. Wow, Modric has a Ballon D Or, Henry adn Beckham don’t, I guess he’s better than them :/
2020-07-06 19:50
now you compare the importance of the trophy instead of saying that he wasn´t good enough to win that trophy
2020-07-06 19:58
what??? Trying to argue a different path just because Neymar had a better season than your idol? Yikes, just take the L.
2020-07-06 20:02
lol you are really out of arguments. in the period of time where ronaldinho played he was one of the best, the era of neymar he is not one of the best, if they playing in the same year on their prime ronaldinho would still rekt him because he is willing to win games with skills and enthusiasm and neymar is known for his diving, and selling his ass for psg instead of going for a prime so stfu kid and respect the legend instead someone who will never be something cuz he never won something with his own skill
2020-07-06 20:05
Ok, now explain how Ronaldinho would rekt Neymar if Ronaldinho’s best season is worse than Neymar’s best season? Cry some more, delusional kid.
2020-07-06 20:06
not only the goals matter, watch how much player have to cover ronaldinho back in the days, always +2 because you cant give him the freerom to make some assist or rather goals, neymar dont need that cover cuz he just laying on the floor if someone go to close to him
2020-07-07 05:54
0/8
2020-07-17 13:15
You gotta understand stats can be shown or seen how u want them to be... they dont show the entire truth to it. Like for example with michael laudrup he got worse ''stats'' too but there is many reason for that and one of them is like 2pac said, literally 2-3 ppl covering him 24/7 and constant tackles which made him retire early. But that itself makes him dangerous too bcus it gives more freedom to the other players and in ronaldinhos case it gave more freedom to rivaldo and ronaldo. But nobody are scared of neymar.. all they have to do is blow his direction for him to fall over and roll around 27 times and break a leg. Anyway dont look at stats too much, because in michael laudrups case he doesnt have the BEST stats but every team he was in he won every time, when he got in barcelona he won everytime, then he transfers to real madrid and win there too against barcelona.
2020-07-17 13:01
Wtf are you even saying? Stats don’t say everything? So I guess TACO is better than s1mple because “muh stats aren’t everything ok?”. That’s literally 0 arguments. You’re literally making up a excuse and talking out of your ass, prob never saw either neymar or Ronaldinho playing. Go back to ice hockey if you can’t give an argument, kid.
2020-07-17 13:07
Okey, guess its impossible to tell a 12 year old anything... shud have known from how u answered the other guy, ur beyond help. Clearly u didnt understand anything at all and the only thing u will understand is numbers which sadly will never tell the entire truth. But ur obviously that kind of kid who thinks that having the most goals makes u the best striker... If the stats shows that saying jump to a frog makes it jump and when cutting its legs off makes it not jump anymore then its obvious its hearing comes from the legs... thats how ur brain works... u sadly too stupid to understand there is more to it than just that.
2020-07-17 14:13
OK, now go back to watch ronaldinho nutmegging a eibar player and thinking he´s the goat because of that, delusional kid.
2020-07-17 14:14
Never said his goat?.. but he is better than neymar for sure and was worth more to his team than neymar. anyway kinda hilarious getting called a kid by a kid...
2020-07-17 14:15
So he was better than Neymar because he did some flashy dribbles against shit competitions while choking in WC and UCL, lol. Cry me a river, kid
2020-07-17 14:16
obviously u shud go back to school and start understand what words means.
2020-07-17 14:17
-1
2020-07-17 15:23
+1 finally someone with logical arguments, you cant teach this neymar fanboy
2020-07-17 15:21
lol
2020-07-31 17:41
you're the one who got rekted, by the way
2020-08-05 18:13
While Neymar isnt even trying hard and having fun on parties*
2020-07-06 14:52
#20
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Italy Wakkaa
tbh the only thing I remember of Ronaldinho was his freekick against Chelsea. Apart from that, yes he was flashy and all that, but flashy isn't efficient.
2020-07-05 22:25
+1 Ronaldinho was flashy and extremely entertaining, but wasn´t that much prolific nor efficient outside of his Barça peak
2020-07-05 22:29
#213
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Sweden flippig
Then u didnt watch him
2020-07-06 12:23
This guy is an idiot. Ronaldinho was a beast since he started in Grêmio, won everything, EVERYTHING!! Not like Messi and cr7 that has never won A WC
2020-07-10 19:36
Weren’t you the fakeflagger who got destroyed after claiming Ronaldinho was the GOAT in that other thread? LOOOOOOOOOOOL Hoes mad?
2020-08-01 15:10
Stopped reading at topic
2020-07-05 22:31
Romario >>>>
2020-07-05 22:32
#64
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Italy Wakkaa
Romario was truly special. I rate only van Basten higher
2020-07-05 23:01
van basten one of the best of all times and sadly not often mentioned
2020-07-06 11:16
#214
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Italy Wakkaa
too many injuries .. kinda same like R9, altho I would say van Basten was a little more complete as a striker. R9 was great aswell
2020-07-06 14:04
What about cruyff?
2020-07-06 14:42
he destroyed brazil 1974, damn cruyff Ruud Gullit also worth mentioning.
2020-07-06 14:50
He is the best midfielder in fifa mate
2020-07-06 14:55
true
2020-08-04 18:58
Maybe he is the top of raw skill. Hes like shroud or scream
2020-07-05 22:33
"Scream" 😂😂😂 Good only against Globals on MM.
2020-07-06 01:22
what are tou talking about? He was decent tier 1 player with the most entertaining aim style
2020-07-06 20:07
Aim style doesn't win games. What he did well was branding himself.
2020-07-06 20:07
But he WON some tournaments with entertaining style
2020-07-06 20:09
In 2015 when there was quite nobody good.
2020-07-06 20:10
2016 scream = best scream
2020-07-06 20:11
ScreaM was good for 2 years then fell off big time, literally Ronaldinho's career.
2020-08-04 18:58
Stop posting the same dumb sh1t, you're the same phaggutz that posted the "neymar > ronaldinho" the other day. Ronaldinho is a WC champion and won everything with Barca, Neymar is never going to be even close to his level.
2020-07-05 22:34
great argument, being carried by Ronaldo and Rivaldo made Ronaldinho the goat, LUL
2020-07-05 22:38
LULmar, pls dont compare him to ronaldinho, thats laughable.
2020-07-05 23:09
ok, now can you give a single valid point
2020-07-05 23:10
Wow! Great argument, a guy recovering from a ankle tear felt pain while running and getting kicked for 90 straight minutes? Haha, what a loser!
2020-07-05 23:14
0/8
2020-07-05 23:15
0/8
2020-07-05 23:15
mad coz neymar is a noob playing in a farmers league 😂
2020-07-05 23:15
0/8
2020-07-05 23:16
1/8?
2020-07-05 23:17
maybe, I actually thought you would give a valid point in #78, so yeah 1/8
2020-07-05 23:17
ty mens))
2020-07-05 23:18
gg wp mens((( 8/8 now
2020-07-05 23:18
Neymars biggest problem and maybe the reason why he cant be a goat is his mindset on the field. Constantly lying on the floor and receiving yellow cards for misbehaving (diving/complaining). He actually has a higher yellow&red card ratio than fucking Sergio Ramos. And he is a 50kg attacker. It's ridiculous.
2020-07-06 15:23
+1 This Brazilian flag guy is stupid. Ronaldinho never cared about numbers or stats, he entertained people. Won every single title their is to win and choose the party life, fuck you, you 13 year old piece of shit.
2020-07-10 19:38
Fakeflagger mad KKKKK. Crying here after getting rekt in “GOAT discussion thread” KKKKKKKKKKKK hoes mad
2020-08-01 15:14
Zinedine Zidane real goat
2020-07-05 22:35
Literally
2020-07-06 08:04
#38
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Brazil xaxaxaxax
NT, but pele is the most overrated footballer of all time
2020-07-05 22:37
+100
2020-07-05 22:40
debatable, more and more people are criticizing Pelé nowadays, but almost every single football fan act as Dinho is the goat or football Jesus
2020-07-05 22:40
create poll whos better let the ppl vote, i made thread for u
2020-07-05 23:25
People will usually go subjective and most people hate Neymar because of flopping (actually, even Brazillians hate him), Ronaldinho would win 9/10 times. But, if you actually go trough numbers and accolades, the only thing Dinho really has is a WC in his advantage, but this is while playing with peak Ronaldo and Peak Rivaldo, something most players couldn’t even think about doing.
2020-07-05 23:25
i made thread for u
2020-07-05 23:26
ok, thx, let’s see the results.
2020-07-05 23:26
2020-07-05 23:27
Neymar 1 vote(((
2020-07-05 23:27
bendtner>neymar
2020-07-05 23:28
Lingardinho>>>>>all
2020-07-05 23:29
he wouldnt even make brazils worst squad 😂
2020-07-05 23:30
seems bendtner best player ever
2020-07-05 23:35
true goat
2020-07-05 23:36
2020-07-06 20:10
2002 wasnt even close to being peak ronaldo
2020-07-05 23:32
8 goals, unbeatable in dribbling, scoring even in the final against the best GK at the time and one of the best of all time, maybe he wasn’t as good as before the knee surgery, but he basically tanked the entire competition while being clear cut the best player.
2020-07-05 23:36
that time in football had such more talent, passion and a special feel about it. :(
2020-07-05 23:39
I miss old Brazil team D:
2020-07-05 23:39
same tbh ;( modern day brazil get 7-1'd
2020-07-05 23:40
Tite is dumb coach and we had injury problems last WC, besides that, CBF is a clown fiesta. Pray for Brazil mens, may Vinicius Jr lead us to the hexa!
2020-07-05 23:42
i dont think you'll ever get back to that era, the raw talent was insane, seems like too much money nowadays and less passion for the game.
2020-07-05 23:44
Yes, this is specially true in Brazil’s case, CBF is literally all over money laundry schemes and corruption, this ended fucked the entirety of Brazil’s football. With the amount of talent, we could maybe be at the same lvl as European leagues, such as in the 80s or 90s, but we’re way too far now :/
2020-07-05 23:46
them times wont happen again anywhere tbh, the intensity has been taken out of the game with VAR and the pure roughness of the games isnt allowed anymore with fines and bans, whereas them days defenders were allowed to defend and people wanted to move the ball instead of diving when they feel air touch them.
2020-07-06 00:08
well sure, he was by far the best player in the competition but the pre injury ronaldo was still a bit better, he could go from 0 to 100 almost instantly and if that happens he would literally be uncatchable. that paired with his body strenght was just ridiculous
2020-07-05 23:40
when he was at inter 😎👌
2020-07-05 23:39
for me that 1 season at barcelona was his best season, but playing against the best defenders in the world in seria a and making them look like clowns was also insane.
2020-07-05 23:42
yeah, they had the best defence/defenders and he made them all look like amateurs lol
2020-07-05 23:43
fun fact, Ronaldo was into traps: youtu.be/PCx5LvE7gZo
2020-07-06 00:10
hes from brazil, he gets a pass xd
2020-07-06 00:12
Brazil best trans(((
2020-07-06 00:14
thailand better 😂
2020-07-06 00:14
Sad to see the injuries slowed his career, almost identical to Derrick Rose’s case.
2020-07-05 23:40
could have potentially been the greatest of all time, he probably would have won like 4-5 ballon d'or's between 2000-2006.
2020-07-05 23:44
I think he would be at minimum top 3 if not for the injuries, even with it he’s still top 10 (imo) so yeah, sad to see such a talent that not even his body could keep it up.
2020-07-05 23:45
#178
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Belgium Miiyata
Ronaldinho tore apart teams in UCL while neymar in UCL is doing legit nothing except cheating around.
2020-07-06 00:53
0/8
2020-07-06 00:55
Ehm I don't know where you got that from... Most football fans don't consider Ronaldinho as the GOAT
2020-07-06 03:33
check the replies in this thread
2020-07-31 17:29
What people reply on this thread is most certainly not what the majority of people think. It's a CSGO forum... you can't expect that most of this forum is football fans. The majority of people say either CR7 or Messi and you can find that through a quick google search. Ronaldinho isn't even among the top 4 contenders. It's CR7, Messi, Pelé, and Maradona that are most football fans top contenders for the GOAT conversation
2020-07-31 17:55
I know, still, as you can see in this thread, many really consider him the GOAT, but I think this is mostly because I’m from Brazil, so is far more likely that a a brazillian will fanboy Ronaldinho than an european, for example. In the greater spectrum, I highly doubt there’s a large amount of people who understand the game and still think that Ronaldinho is the GOAT.
2020-07-31 18:07
If you're a real football fan you don't consider him the GOAT. I don't really get why Brazilians think Ronaldinho is the GOAT, you've got Pelé which is the obvious choice for GOAT between the Brazilians
2020-07-31 18:22
Idk, delusion and fanboyism, I guess.
2020-07-31 18:23
Yeah, people that actually think he's the GOAT is either a fanboy or doesn't know anything about football. Yeah, he had INSANE Talent and no one says otherwise, but he wasted his career which is inevitably why he can't be considered the GOAT any reasonable way
2020-07-31 18:32
+1
2020-07-31 19:04
0/8 the only reason ronaldo and messi are better is because they are consistent (rightfully so) but ronaldinho at his best > ronaldo at his best, not sure about messi though.
2020-07-05 22:39
Ronaldinho´s best = 26 goals and 24 assists or 50 goals contribution (Messi achieved the double of this in a single year, btw) Cristiano´s 13-14 season (not even his best season) = 51 goals and 17 assists, while being the best UCl player and top scorer LUL
2020-07-05 22:43
I dont care about meaningless stats out of context i see what a player does in the pitch for 90 mins.
2020-07-05 23:09
great argument, "muh numbers worng me right i smart numbers dumb", LOL
2020-07-05 23:12
great argument by providing nothing but attacking what i said
2020-07-05 23:30
Care to explain how Ronaldinho is better than any of them if they basically doubled his stats while winning the same titles?
2020-07-05 23:33
Cuz you don't have to score 50+ goals and have 30+ assists a season to be a beast or the best player in the planet, stats don't say everything otherwise players like Zidane and Cruyff could never won a ballon d'or, or be considered in goat's discussion. During Ronaldinho's peak he was an INSANE player that the whole world would stop to watch, he was the maestro of his teams and creating chaos to defenses with his unreal skills and vision.
2020-07-06 20:18
No, Zidane and Cruyff were midfielders, Ronaldinho was a attacking midfielder and a wing, he’s supposed to score and assist a lot, ffs. Zidane won because, besides being one of the best in his club, he carried France many times, while Ronaldinho shitted himself in 2006 and 2010, while just playing “good” in one single match in 2002 (he was bad for the rest of the game and even got expelled, if not for his goal, he would be one of the worst players in that match against England), same thing with Cruyff. Messi and Ronaldo stop the entire world every time they play too, except they play better than Ronaldinho almost every single match (no, doing more dribbles isn’t the same as playing better. Better = contributions in winning, something you only achieve with goals and assists). Messi destroys teams every week, while putting crazier numbers and winning more titles, same thing with Ronaldo, Neymar and multiple other all time greats of today, such as Lewa, Robben and Ribery. C’mon, I asked a valid reason, not a Ronaldinho fanboy saying he was great because he nutmegged a Eibar played and you jerked off to it.
2020-07-06 20:27
lol i liked your comment, u atleast know what ur talking about (looks like). I never said he was "greater" than Messi or Cristiano. Their careers and achievements speaks for themselves. I'm not ronaldinho fanboy to begin with. I think he's overrated in general, people often getting him into top 10 or GOAT conversations and that's absolute bs. But i can recognize he was one of the greatest ever at his peak, and i would pick prime ronaldinho anyday ove prime CR7. He was rekting defenses with such a beautiful game that no other player i've ever seen come close, his style and creativity where on another level. Remember he was more of a streetstyle playmaker then a scorer midfield, he wasn't expected to score 50 goals a season anyway, he was expected to win and make his team the best while entertaining fans, and boy he did that, right? Won everything possible for a player (WC,UCL,National Leagues,Libertadores,Ballon D'or, etc.). He dominated matches just with his technique and vision, even way past his prime he was a consistent threat to defenses. In his golden years tho, he was pure magic, fans from teams all over the world would enjoy watch him play. About that England match in 2002, he actually made an great play and assist for the equalizer, then scored a magic fk to take the lead 2-1, then got wrongly ejected (imo) from the game. He was performing decently during that WC and when his team needed the most he had his best game. Remember that in 2002 he was not that big name yet, he was a very hot prospect but Rivaldo and Ronaldo where the big names on that team, he wasn't expected to carry the team like he was in 06, where only Kaka was focused and him and that entire clownfiesta team (Adriano, Ronaldo, Robinho, RC) flopped hard due to lack of commitment. We all wonder what Ronaldinho would've been if he had the commitment, but there's no doubt he was one of the most talented players ever.
2020-07-07 03:40
"Ronaldinho is the most overrated footballer of all time. He isn’t a top 10 player" Who the hell considers him a top10 player?
2020-07-05 22:41
Whole bunch of his delusional fans, you can see some claiming he's the goat in this same thread, my friend.
2020-08-04 19:05
The guy got a standing ovation from Real Madrid fans at Bernabeu for his performance. The guy was unstoppable and definitely not overrated when he was at his prime 04-07 or something but he just had such a short time at the top and started to decline quickly for some reason while Messi and Ronaldo have been banging in goals for a decade or so
2020-07-05 22:41
yeah, in his peak Dinho was a monster, but people overhype his 05-06 season waaay too much,
2020-07-05 22:46
"started to decline quickly for some reason" reason clearly was that he had no dedication to his "work". For him, football was a hobby next to partieng and drinking. Training played a very little part in his career, showing up late and hungover for trainingsessions etc.
2020-07-06 15:32
He was very skilled , but nowhere near the GOAT level of messi and cr7 obviously. Mb ill get hate but imo Neymar > Ronaldinho in terms of raw skill. Not talking about achievements such as wc or ballon dors , just skill Too bad neymar was born in the era of messi and ronaldo , otherwise he would have won atleast 1 ballon dor.
2020-07-05 22:49
+1, his 14-17 time span was absolutely insane
2020-07-05 22:50
if ney returns to barcelona he can win a balon d'or easily
2020-07-06 00:02
Do you think he will return ? I heard that PSG set a colosal price tag for barcelona. rakitic+semedo+dembele+100mil.
2020-07-06 10:20
i think its barcelona n1 objective
2020-07-06 21:20
bro thats a crazy amount of money , you can buy many other good players. just think about barca that they spend 120mil on dembele just to sell it now ? i dont think they are willing to spend that ridiculous amount of money for 1 player.
2020-07-07 20:30
yes but who cares when is not only for neymar, it is the incredible symbiosis with messi and suarez that no other player can have. Theres no price for more "tripletes"
2020-07-07 20:32
yeah but u should also consider that messi and suarez probably wont play anymore in about 2+ years or not on the same level and Neymar is getting to his 30es soon. Do you think its a good decision to let young players such as semedo and dembele? Also dont forget that they will leave griezmann on the bench which they spend around 120 mil also.
2020-07-07 20:37
He was one of the most talented players ever but his peak was short because bad mentality, i dont consider him one of the greatest ever.
2020-07-05 22:54
I fully agree
2020-07-05 22:55
#58
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Brazil JMB_17
I don't think anyone says he's the best of all time or anything like that. But he's definetely the most entertaining guy to ever play football in history ofc everyone wanted more of him but I think that his short peak is what made it so good and entertaining for the viewers, every match he would do something different and brilliant. He didn't play football as a job, he was having fun with it, if his peak lasted longer it would probably mean that he was treating it as his job and wouldn't be as fun as it was, always playing with a smile on his face
2020-07-05 22:55
cool story, bob.
2020-07-05 22:58
#60
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Brazil JMB_17
wtf
2020-07-05 22:59
yes
2020-07-05 22:59
#62
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Brazil JMB_17
my name is not bob
2020-07-05 22:59
nt bob
2020-07-05 22:59
#182
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Belgium Miiyata
Ronaldinho created a football movement bro. Ppl got inspired and motivated to play just watching him. Nobody gives a fk for messi or Cr7 whos half goals are from penalties and free kicks stat padding fks club mentality telling players to pass the ball always to those 2
2020-07-06 00:56
I only see that for CR, not for messi tbh
2020-07-06 15:33
You're dumb af lmao
2020-08-01 15:20
"always playing with a smile on his face" thats big plus one since he always seemed so happy and like he loved to do what he does on the pitch. This is what people loved a lot about him. Such a likeable guy tho.
2020-07-06 15:35
+1.
2020-08-01 16:04
#65
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Spain mokerz
discuss??? ronaldinho on his highest peak > Messi, zidane, cr7, ronaldo and all
2020-07-05 23:01
#50
2020-07-05 23:02
#71
alex | 
Spain mokerz
messi is messi because ronaldinho bro btw ronaldinhos life and skill better messi great family man ronaldinho 1234512345134 prostitutes, 2 wifes same time , party , party balon d'or , champions , world cup.... sorry but ronaldinho was in another lvl
2020-07-05 23:04
No. Messi is Messi because he’s Messi. Yes, Ronaldinho was a good mentor and a good figure for him in football, but even R10 himself already said he considers Messi above him, wtf.
2020-07-05 23:07
+1, Ronaldinho maybe inspired Messi and Messi looked up on him when he was young but Messi is a totally different player than Ronaldinho ever was on the pitch.
2020-07-06 15:34
Yes, it’s a case of a student surpassing the master. Indeed Ronaldinho creativity and love for the game might had influenced Messi, but people act as he would be Lindgard if not for R10, like wtf
2020-07-06 15:36
actually insane that he did it with such a life style. Party and screw hookers one night, tear ramos a new asshole the next
2020-07-05 23:08
Niko is Ronaldinho of cs confirmed
2020-07-05 23:19
hooking hookers till 8 am and then 81.004 persons on santiago bernabeu applauding you for rekting ramos and start the new era
2020-07-05 23:59
:D pretty true the only reason r10 was a beast is because he enjoyd playing and also enjoyd life what a player bradar whit that cute smile guardiola dfestroyed him just because of his diferent poin of view
2020-07-05 23:23
Ronaldinho at his peak was barely half as decisive/effective as Messi in his average season, so no.
2020-07-31 17:16
nah bro, ronalinho peak is shorter but higher in terms of skills and physical aspects
2020-07-31 17:50
you dont understand
2020-07-31 18:18
bro im fan of FCB since always, i know who is who, but more important thing, im spanish bro, out of here, your opinion about football is silver opinion ^^
2020-07-31 23:43
I repeat: Ronaldinho at his peak was barely half as decisive/effective as Messi in his average season, so no. effectivity > fancy skills
2020-08-01 00:06
a nice percentage for the messi effectivity borns because ronaldinho is godfather of messi. youtube.com/watch?v=tZL6uLQ9KIM youtube.com/watch?v=po5UbZ9NTtw
2020-08-01 00:18
Ok, and? FalleN also helped Coldzera become who he is, so FalleN is better than coldzera? Wtf is this logic? How can a guy with 0 goals in finals be the greatest? How can a guy who never scored over 30 in a season be the greatest? How can a guy destroyed Brazil’s chances in 2006 and couldn’t even get fit to play in 2010 the greatest?
2020-08-01 15:25
ronaldinho 0 finals bro? are you on this planet? gyazo.com/f666d700e658ccdd71436fc00bf623..
2020-08-01 16:08
“0 goals in finals” not “0 finals”
2020-08-01 16:10
Ronaldinho was the best player in the world at one point but there are a lot of names on the GOAT list before him
2020-07-05 23:02
+1
2020-07-05 23:02
Same as Snax tho
2020-07-05 23:04
I mean, Snax was never the clear cut the best player in the world, but I can see where you came from. I miss old Snax, mens((, he was one of the smartest player and had cool personality :(
2020-07-05 23:05
Snax was the best player in the world by for a few months in 2017.
2020-07-06 16:25
yea, but I meant for a whole year in my comment, indeed Snax was monstrous in those 3-4 early 2017 months
2020-07-06 16:47
r10 is the god of futboll sadly we never gonna see someone like him he enjoyed playing while others just play for fame money , i realy hope we see more players like him but i doubt it he is unique best of the world
2020-07-05 23:20
??? What? Yes, there’s players that play only for the money, but I’m sure if someone is going to work in the same shit for 15+ years, while risking your health and body in the process, you must AT LEAST like playing football. Like, wtf
2020-07-05 23:23
o cumon futboll now its only bussines and contacts there is far more players tht are players because they are son of some they dont deserved no skills no nothing
2020-07-05 23:24
nah, you’re just being nostalgic, dude.
2020-07-05 23:26
not realy stoped watching footbol since 2008 its just not enjoyable i just watch some finals and meh not even interesting expect some , last match i watched live was milan bcn 2-3 whit 2 non existence penalties for bcn and dont get me wrong i was a fan of bcn ore it was 2-2 but 1-0 on the previous
2020-07-05 23:33
Yes, indeed the refs are destroying the game, but at the same time, you’re losing some great matches! youtu.be/ix4aBxygbDo ^^^One of the best matches of all time, Imo
2020-07-05 23:38
i like sa futbol do thats why i loved watching r10 he just enjoyed playing even have a photo whit him he dit not even care taking the photo whit me just smiled and take it whit me, last match i enjoyed watching him play live was bcn-levski cl 5-0 and i was on levski outfit :D
2020-07-05 23:40
nice, men((( I once had a photo with Kaka when I was like 5 and since then he’s my favorite player ever!
2020-07-05 23:41
that foto was reason i started likeing bcn do i was never a fan of the big teams he just stoled me out
2020-07-05 23:43
My first team I started to cheer was Flamengo, because I thought Kaka played there since Milan’s kit is almost identical to them, Kkkkkkkk
2020-07-05 23:44
kaka was a monster but his fail was going to rm
2020-07-05 23:48
he had some injury problems and didn’t fit well at Madrid :/, still one of my favorite players to watch when I’m bored or I don’t have nothing to do.
2020-07-05 23:49
there is no players right now i can enjoy actualy they are all some balerinas and crybabes the last exeption were puyol ibra iniesta xavi and r10 all gone now sadly
2020-07-05 23:51
I like to watch Dortmund, Flamengo and Barça, but there’s too much flopping, Barcelona x Atlético last week was a shit ass match when it should be really entertaining, fucking 3 penalties and 1 own goal.
2020-07-05 23:52
i watched the repeat penalty by var what a shit i was just changing chanels and saw the 1-1 goal :D then changed again
2020-07-05 23:53
kkkkkkkkkk nice
2020-07-05 23:54
dortmut is nice to watch same as napoly but the big clubs only buy out players to destroy that team and never using the players such a shit bussines shit futboll is now days
2020-07-05 23:55
+1 I’m really worried that Sancho and Haaland might leave soon because of Premier League teams paying 100.000.000.000 euros for them, even Barcelona decided to say “fuck you” to La Masia and are now spending shit ton of money :(
2020-07-05 23:57
big teams just detroy talents whit money then they loan them to some shit tier 2 tier 3 team just because they scared of them thats the reality of football money talks
2020-07-06 00:14
ronaldinho is the niko of csgo wasted his prime by partying instead of praccing
2020-07-05 23:28
You crazy newfag. He was a beast before Lionel messi, please stop embarresing yourself saying shit
2020-07-05 23:31
Ok, and? Pelé was a beast before almost every one, therefore, he’s the GOAT?
2020-07-05 23:37
if you take only stats in discussion then Pele > anyone else ever, altought that is true, Pele is the GOAT, not only for his stats, but for his dominance
2020-07-06 20:25
Yes, he’s the GOAT for his dominance, not because he played before everyone, as this is commonly used to discredit Pelé’s legacy (“played against milkman’s”, “weaker era”, etc).
2020-07-06 20:29
double post, nice((
2020-07-06 20:35
At his prime 2005-2006? don't remember, he was unstoppable one of the best individual levels i ever seen the thing is Ronaldinho was very very fun to watch
2020-07-05 23:36
Super overrated player. People created the myth that in his prime he was incredible to watch, very skillfull , blah blah blah. Football is about goals , not fucking pana.Super average stats for a player. In his beste season , he scored 26 goals in 45 games...So average.
2020-07-05 23:36
Ronaldinho is the best example of a player legacy overtaking his actual production.
2020-07-05 23:48
he was a playmaker, not a scorer...remember that
2020-07-06 20:26
only bra71l cars about fussball
2020-07-05 23:39
most watched sport in the world btw
2020-07-05 23:53
#184
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Brazil yureka
kkkkkkkkkkk
2020-07-06 00:58
keep dreaming and one day hakuho will have the same status as a football superstar
2020-07-06 20:27
keep watching footie bruv
2020-07-06 20:31
Never seen anybody run with the ball like he did. Felt like it was part of his body.
2020-07-05 23:42
I’ve two balls that are part of my body mens((( want to see I run with them?
2020-07-05 23:47
+1 I always talk with my dad about that, he had a unique way to carry the ball. Ronaldinho liked to set a show, while Messi and Ronaldo are more objective, focused and just wanna score to win the match. What I think that happened to Ronaldinho is that he just got tired, in his mind he had achieved everything, so he thought it was time to focus on booze and night time rather than playing soccer. Maybe if he was really competitive and wanted to keep his rythm and skill-level on the top he would've been a legend, more than he already is. Never seen someone playing like him in my life and treating the ball the way he did, but my favorite player is still Zinedine Dibrane.
2020-07-05 23:57
#146
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Bosnia and Herzegovina ajdinjr11
fuck off
2020-07-05 23:50
#159
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Brazil !vitor
i feel you're like 13 or something
2020-07-06 00:13
Ad hominem and 0 arguments given. I call 0/8
2020-07-06 00:20
#164
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Brazil !vitor
if u think ronaldinho is overrated u clearly never saw him playing, so u are probably under 15 and btw ronaldinho didn't even practice properly, if he did he'd still be playing like his prime
2020-07-06 00:24
Ok, now can you give a argument instead calling me a kid or saying “Ifs”?
2020-07-06 00:32
#167
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Brazil !vitor
have u ever seen him playing a full game ? and there's nothing wrong in being a kid
2020-07-06 00:35
Yes, I did, multiple games. He is nowhere near goat or even top 10 of all time, feel free to try disprove my statement.
2020-07-06 00:36
#171
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Brazil !vitor
if u saw multiple games, i meant 90min games btw not some highlights on youtube, and still think he is overrated, i won't try to change ur mind. Just out of curiosity, what is ur top 10 of all time ?
2020-07-06 00:40
1. Pele 2. Maradona 3. Messi 4. Cristiano 5. Cruyff 6. Ronaldo 7. Di Stefano 8. Beckenbauer 9. Zidane 10. George Best
2020-07-06 00:47
#183
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Brazil !vitor
its a good list but imo i'd put zidane higher and cr7 probably n.5
2020-07-06 00:57
Idk, Di Stéfano redefined Real Madrid and Beckenbauer is literally the best German player of all time imo, but I get your point, GG.
2020-07-06 00:59
he played the most beautiful football, noone can top the beauty of his moves, he made people fall into love in football, dont compare him to some dolphin please
2020-07-06 00:35
Cry me a river, if you want Freestyle football go watch some Falcão(brazillian one) highlights, ffs.
2020-07-06 00:36
just saying, he was special and different from others that made football much better sport to watch, just watch him solo carrying team against galacticos(real madrid's best squad) he just shits on them. neymar just cant solo carry to W.
2020-07-06 00:41
2020-07-06 00:49
#187
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Belgium Miiyata
Hé shouldnt have been on pitch even during this match. How hé escaped red card was criminal. But then again that match was cheated, bought refferee. Imagine opening this video and the first thing i see is this fking otter laying on the grass
2020-07-06 01:03
#191
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Belgium Miiyata
Neymar vs Cameroon but you dare to 0/8 me hahah.
2020-07-06 01:13
Cry is free!
2020-07-06 01:14
#193
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Belgium Miiyata
Cala a boca seu lixo. Dinho > otter😠😠😠
2020-07-06 01:16
KKKKKKK, goat with 20 goals a season! R10 fans have to be the most delusional of all time.
2020-07-06 01:17
idk why u posted this video, literally half of the video is him just passing around easily, while there are much longer videos where ronaldinho is just fooling top players in one single match
2020-07-06 01:07
ok.
2020-07-06 01:08
almost every Brazilian is overrated they can play serious football until the age of 27 max. after that is downhill ronaldinho adriano ronaldo could be the best players in history but a weak mindset f. them
2020-07-06 00:45
Ronaldo had a injury that most people who have can’t even walk after it, Adriano had depression after his father’s death.
2020-07-06 00:48
so did other players but it is too often with Brazilians that it happens cristiano ronaldos father died when he was 19 did he gave up? no Totti , Ruud Van Nistelrooy had also the same injuries and they came back Maicon could be the best right back in modern history but he partied too hard
2020-07-06 00:54
Cristiano didn’t developed depression and alcoholism, you know, some people get pretty fucked up when their parents dies. Ronaldo had a worse injury than Totti, it literally is one of the rarest and worst injuries to any sportsman, he took 2 years to come back from physiotherapy and still was the best player in the World Cup, after that he still developed other injuries that slowed him down, but nothing that has to do with “weak mindset”, wtf. Maicon, LOL
2020-07-06 01:03
you know sometimes you have a teammate who trolls with knife kills, zeus kills , buying stupid guns and getting multi-kills laughing when he loses or dies so Ronaldinho is that guy in the football
2020-07-06 00:56
wtf is that comparison 2X THE BEST FIFA MEN'S PLAYER 1X WINNER BALLON D'OR 2005 1X PLAYER OF THE YEAR 96/97 1X WORLD CUP WINNER 2001 1X COPA AMÉRICA WINNER Copa América winner 98/99 1X CHAMPIONS LEAGUE WINNER 2X SPANISH CHAMPION 05/06 04/05 2X SPANISH SUPER CUP WINNER Spanish Super Cup winner 06/07 05/06 1X ITALIAN CHAMPION 10/11 1X COPA LIBERTADORES WINNER 12/13 1X CONFEDERATIONS CUP WINNER 2005 1X UNDER-17 WORLD CUP CHAMPION 1997 1X RECOPA SUDAMERICANA WINNER 13/14 1X PLAYER OF THE YEAR Player of the Year 96/97 Then there are people like you who just dont know some sort of player and try to comment something to act smart but dont have any idea cuz u are not older then 18 and have no idea about some things
2020-07-06 08:27
I'm a Real Madrid supporter myself but I've never seen a dominance like Ronaldinho's had, It was absolutely amazing and a pleasure to watch him play. His problem was alcohol and bitches, something that ruins many brazilians players careers (seems to be way better nowadays)
2020-07-06 10:33
neymar is unlucky he play in messi and cr era thats why he didnt get any balon dor
2020-07-06 11:10
ok boomer and next post you gonna make called becham is overrated?
2020-07-06 11:31
wat
2020-07-06 12:22
-1
2020-07-06 14:08
-1
2020-07-06 14:17
-1
2020-07-06 14:29
Happy that we can agree.
2020-07-06 14:32
Indeed you, too, brought up some good points. Good day sir.
2020-07-06 14:34
Have a nice day too, dawg!
2020-07-06 14:34
Ronaldinho It's one of the most skilled player as ever touch the field, but he prefers to party instead of plays, so he waste his career
2020-07-06 14:15
How many of you were even at an age to be able to comprehend what Ronaldinho was doing on a pitch in the first place lol Hes bigger than Messi in my book. Barcelona were run by idiots and were extremely poor before Ronaldinho was picked up. He did exactly what fans were hoping Riquelme would do a season prior to his arrival. Ronaldinho essentially turned Barca around on his own. Yeah the first season wasn't the best, but the team had been run by so many poor managers before that. A complete overhaul was to be expected. Messi, as prolific as he is but he was essentially gifted an organization and a team that Ronaldinho had to build on his own. I'd definitely put Ronaldinho in the category of GOATs, but obviously in the long run he will be overshadowed by both C Ronaldo and Messi because their dominance lasted alot longer. Still one of the best brazilians ever. If I were to rate Brazilian players specifically I'd put Ronaldinho as #1 without a doubt. Did I even mention his incredible debut? youtube.com/watch?v=z9TpAIe31pg Literally lost my mind when this happened. What a god
2020-07-06 14:27
Lol, basically ignoring Cruyff, Rivaldo, Romário, Ronaldo and all the great players that played for Barca just to fit your delusional narrative that barca was like fucking Eibar and Ronaldinho alone turned the club all around. Quit baiting.
2020-07-06 14:31
The philosophy comes from Cruyff, but those other Brazilians you mention were years before Ronaldinho. Barca were in a long slump entering the 2000's and Ronaldinho helped them rebuild into the team they have been for the past years. They weren't quite Eibar, but compare Real Madrid from 99 -> 2004 and compare that to Barca...The Real Madrid of that time period was essentially what Barca used to have been. And I'm not ignoring anyone, but Ronaldinhos legacy was FAR greater than that of Rivaldo and Ronaldo in Barca, no doubt! Only Romario can compare
2020-07-06 14:47
Wow, Barca was bad from 2000-2004, Ronaldinho goat!!!1!!1!1 Ronaldinho himself said Messi is greater than him, wtf. There’s a quote from Barça that says: “Cruyff put Barcelona in the map, Ronaldinho made in world wide and Messi transcended” If taking a team from a four years slump is so significant, Griezmann is the actual goat for Atlético.
2020-07-06 14:50
Atletico is a good team, but they didn't win anything significant like UCL. Ronaldinho got Barca their first CL win since 92 cementing them as the #1 team in the world. And it takes something quite significant to turn a team like Barca around if you know how the team was run back in those days. Cruyffs legacy is an important part of Barca but it also meant alot of problems for the team as well. Remember the dutch mob of players that were brought into the team for YEARS? They had to get rid of every single one and rebuild from that which took them a long time. Ronaldinho was the only player that could do what he did in that time span to drag Barca out of their slump. Messi is in some sense lucky that he was brought onto a team of winners with a legend like Ronaldinho to look up to. Don't get me wrong, Messis legacy will be unbeatable at Barca, but even he would respect what Ronaldinho and the players before him did for the team. And I will single out Ronaldinho as the key factor to Barcas current success. Not Romario, not Ronaldo, not Rivaldo but Ronaldinho.
2020-07-06 15:03
Yes, Ronaldinho is one of the biggest players in club history, but is a false narrative that he changed the club alone, he had many other great player by his side, not to mention the fact that Barcelona just had a 4 YEARS slump, you’re treating them as if they were AC Milan lvl of slump, but they just had bad luck/played bad in the UCL. Ronaldinho is one of the greatest Barca players, but this fallacy that he managed to turn the club upside down alone is cancer.
2020-07-06 15:08
Bro, Ronaldinho is better than messi or cr7, but the problem is, Ronaldinho is brazilian, they dont care if he is the best or not, he only want money and womens, only
2020-07-06 14:32
so you´re literally praising him for having a shit work ethic, lol. Delusional R10 fans are so funny.
2020-07-06 14:35
I am not fan of him, u are talking this, because u are only a hater, i think. And yes, he has a shitted work ethic, like all the brazilian soccer players, maybe except for Kaká and Marcelo, i don't remember any story with womens, drinks and drugs with the both
2020-07-06 14:38
No. One thing is liking to party/having extra life, other thing is having shit work ethic, Ronaldinho had shit work ethic and will never be at the same level of the likes of Ronaldo, Messi, CR7, Romário and players that actually managed to be relevant for more than 4 years in their career.
2020-07-06 14:41
Romário ? KKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK COÉ Like i said, all Brazilian players ha a shitted work ethic, except for Kaká and Marcelo. Now u can breath little Enzo, stay calm, Ronaldinho and Neymar will never be like Halland too ?
2020-07-06 14:49
??? Great argument, call enzo (Ad hominem) and change the narrative in order to fit your delusional and be easier to refute by talking about Halland out of nowhere. You can’t compare Romario to Ronaldinho, more goals, more assists, didn’t choked in the WC. Cry me a river, delusional fanboy.
2020-07-06 14:51
based on your reasoning, s1mple and zywoo are also overrated cuz they didnt win any major
2020-07-06 14:34
what?
2020-07-06 14:36
U said that Ronaldinho is overrated because he didnt win anyhting and dribbling doesnt win games.Based on this, Zywoo and Simple are also overrated cuz they didnt win any major and getting 30+ frags every game doesnt win games. If u still dont understand, all i want to say is that u are wrong and ronaldinho is not overrated.
2020-07-06 14:41
No. The closest thing in this conception is ScreaM, I’m not criticizing Ronaldinho for not winning, that’s dumb as he won basically every trophy in football, I’m criticizing his fans for praising him as the GOAT or top 10 just because he dribbled a lot and forget that football is won trough goals and assists, no by doing a “elástico” or nutmegging players. If your only argument is CSGO, a totally different game from football, fuck off and quit baiting.
2020-07-06 14:43
did i say that u criticized ronaldinho for not winning ? .I only drew a parallel to your reasoning.Football has and has had many great players and its hard to make a top 10.Everyone is free to have an opinion.Thinking Ronaldinho's fans are delusional and stupid because some people say that ronaldinho is the goat or top is so wrong.U are the only one who is stupid.
2020-07-06 14:49
Ok, now show me why he’s top 10 or the GOAT, back up your claim, if you can’t you’re just delusional.
2020-07-06 14:52
dude are u actually retarded ? I just wanted to explain to you that everyone is free to have an opinion and your reasoning is wrong.I dont want to believe that u are a brazilian cuz the brazilians know football
2020-07-06 14:58
So everyone is free to have a opinion, but if I have a opinion diferent than yours I don’t know football? 8/8 logic
2020-07-06 15:00
lol, u said that u criticized Ronaldinho's fans for praising him.Aren't they allowed to have an opinion ?
2020-07-06 15:03
Yes, they’re. But their opinion is wrong as it can’t be proven by fact or numbers, same thing with Flat earth believers or anti vaxxers.
2020-07-06 15:10
they will say the same thing about your opinion.Btw u told me to fuck off when i compared your reasoning with csgo and now u compared Ronaldinho's fans opinion with the flat earth believers.Congrats
2020-07-06 15:13
No, my opinion can be proven by numbers, number of trophies and interviews where Ronaldinho himself said Messi and Ronaldo are greater and better than him, same thing with flat earthers, as they can’t disprove gravity or Nasa pics or make a single valid reason to Earth be flat.
2020-07-06 15:15
Btw, I told you to fuck off because you’re only crying about “muh it’s their opinion respect plzzz :(“ instead of giving a argument to explain how Ronaldinho is not overrated.
2020-07-06 15:16
imgur.com/vX4dfD6 do i need to say more ?
2020-07-06 15:18
Yes, he won a bunch of trophies, wow. I never denied he’s a great player, now how some minor trophies everywhere outside of Barca and Atlético Mineiro prove him as the GOAT? You want me to picture Dani Alves trophies just to make your point even more invalid or you good?
2020-07-06 15:20
i forgot to mention his dribbling skills youtube.com/watch?v=_dBz4dTZocg
2020-07-06 15:26
Meanwhile original Brazilian Ronaldo is underrated. He is one of the best ever.
2020-07-06 14:35
people forgot how he was a natural force before his injuries
2020-07-06 14:36
Yall forget about my boi adriano who is now a gang member and can kill u anytime lmao
2020-07-06 14:51
Adriano was a monster too, Didico is Flamengo’s herokkkkkkkkk. Sadly he got pretty affected by his father’s death.
2020-07-06 14:53
He had the pontential to be the greatest to ever live
2020-07-06 14:57
Indeed, he remembered a pre injury Ronaldo, tbh.
2020-07-06 14:57
Skill-wise he is undeniably the best. He was a true magician. Messi and Ronaldo are overall better and more consistent players, but I miss watching R10 play with his opponents.
2020-07-06 14:43
what do you mean skill wise? I mean, Peak Ozil was prob the best passer ever, not to mention the likes of De Bruyne and Zico. Can’t be talking about goals, as he never even got more than 40 goals a season, dribbling is understandable, but Messi has better dribbling rate than him, and just by freestyling alone, you have players such as Neymar who literally toys and literally freestylers who do trick for living.
2020-07-06 14:47
2020-07-06 14:45
messi is trash, in important games hes always absent
2020-07-06 14:59
name + flag checks out
2020-07-06 15:00
where was messi against liverpool and roma? where was messi when they drew 3 times in the last 5 games so they lost 6 points? real is a lock now to win the league
2020-07-06 15:07
#266
2020-07-06 15:08
as expected by a messi fan, no arguements because you know im saying the truth
2020-07-06 15:11
Yes, poor choker Messi with only 4 UCL trophies and 6 Ballon D’Or :((((
2020-07-06 15:11
ronaldinho, br ronaldo, roberto carlos, rivaldo and others .. i miss 2002 br squad xd btw he is not overrated, one of greatest footbaler ever lived, its only shame he dont take a game half seriously as messi or por ronaldo
2020-07-06 15:03
Yes, he is. You can see many people in this exact thread saying he’s either the GOAT or bigger than Ronaldo, Messi and other true top players. If two years at the top and making unnecessary plays makes you the goat, Scream is the best player in Counter Strike History followed by Markeloff.
2020-07-06 15:10
except for one thing scream 0 major ronaldinho 1 major
2020-07-06 15:15
Ronaldinho carried in the World Cup ;)
2020-07-06 15:16
#269
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Portugal astacp
ronaldinho was a man that made every cent of the ticket worth it just to watch him. he was a magician, ronaldo and messi are nothing compared to his talent.
2020-07-06 15:05
id love to hear what you have to say about other players.. Especially older players like Di Stefano, Cryuff, Puskas, Eusebio etc.. Your take on Zidane may be interesting, your top3 is probably dogshit. Ronaldinho was MAGIC and his attitude on the pitch and that smile (those teeth) will always be remembered fondly, in the top 10 for some for sure.My brother he LOVED watching ronaldinho play and he doesnt watch much football
2020-07-06 15:20
#174
2020-07-06 15:41
after pele yes
2020-07-06 15:28
I think Pele production is overrated, but he’s impact in the game it’s huge af, basically the thing people say about Ronaldinho putting Barça in the world map, Pele did the same, but for Brazil. It’s still one of the biggest lies with that 1000 goal shit, tho.
2020-07-06 15:37
#295
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Lithuania Janbob
You are right, ronaldinho is just bad, C. Ronaldo goat
2020-07-06 15:37
#297
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Europe Amne_cs
Mundial Ronaldinho Soccer 64
2020-07-06 15:38
HAHAHA
2020-08-01 16:23
#298
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Brazil nkL1
cala boca vei
2020-07-06 15:39
cry is free
2020-07-06 15:40
#302
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Brazil nkL1
cara foi 2x seguidas melhor do mundo para de falar asneiras, ganhou tudo q tinha direito
2020-07-06 16:01
will you give a argument or just cry?
2020-07-06 16:02
There is no GOAT of football in general, due to the very different positions and roles in the team which require completely different skill sets. However, I will say that regarding ball control, Ronaldinho in his short prime was the most skilled player ever.
2020-07-06 16:43
#242
2020-07-06 16:52
#309
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Malaysia Suno[t]
neymar will never beat ronaldinho simply because he falls like paper and acts like a scary cat when he gets dinked by defenders. This is different from R10 because he played in one of the most violent leagues in the world but don't even need to pretend to score cheap penalties.
2020-07-06 16:45
cry is free
2020-07-06 16:54
#318
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Malaysia Suno[t]
italian league would destroy neymar easily.
2020-07-06 16:55
#316
2020-07-06 16:56
#322
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Malaysia Suno[t]
dude the very fact that he does this repeatedly just degrades him as a player. idk why people like you respect him so much.
2020-07-06 16:58
neymar has better numbers than ronaldinho tho
2020-07-06 20:20
#362
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Malaysia Suno[t]
but then again he has better numbers than most tier 1 brasilian players like rivaldo, romario etc would that make him better than them?
2020-07-06 20:22
No, as Romário and Rivaldo backed up their individual performances with NT accolades, Ronaldinho cried like a bitch in 2006 and 2010 and was one of the biggest chokers of the 00s. Neymar has been great for the NT, but his lack of a WC has a impact in his legacy.
2020-07-17 12:24
Its true but his peak is unmatchable
2020-07-06 16:47
of course dribbles can win games
2020-07-06 16:48
No, they can´t. You win by scoring, not by dribbling.
2020-07-06 16:55
lol , a lot of goals have they origin in a dribble
2020-07-06 16:56
#326
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Malaysia Suno[t]
brasil squad of 82': hold my pace
2020-07-06 17:02
#327
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Malaysia Suno[t]
they lost because they did not defend well after getting the equalizer. Same thing happened with klopp's 76 team against germany. They look down on the italians because they lost or draw their previous games. Also they would never have qualified for WC anyway if what you say is true
2020-07-06 17:08
so they lost because the other team... scored? No, it can´t be!
2020-07-06 17:27
#313
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Malaysia Suno[t]
just say neymar is better than R9 this is the same logic your making. 5 years peak vs neymar's 9 or whatever
2020-07-06 16:49
No, Ronaldo has 3 ballon d ors, WC winner, one of the best WC players of all time, one of the best inter players of all time, 40 goals in 46 games as a teen in Cruzeiro, R9>>Neymar>Ronaldinho
2020-07-06 16:56
#320
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Malaysia Suno[t]
still 5 years peak only. Whatever he does is irrelevant since neymar played longer more consistently.
2020-07-06 16:56
0/8
2020-07-06 19:17
Ronaldo had a serious injury, even tho he got all of this. Ronaldinho's only problem was alcohol and night clubs xd Maybe if Ronaldinho had a Cristiano Ronaldo mentality, he could be the g.o.a.t.
2020-07-06 20:19
football is geh
2020-07-06 16:59
#324
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Malaysia Suno[t]
OMEGALUL nt shakiri
2020-07-06 17:01
who?
2020-07-06 21:55
#325
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Brazil ftf123
ronaldinho is better than neymar with one leg
2020-07-06 17:02
maybe in dribbling, but I don't really think he is way better, Neymar is a great dribbler too and is a lot more efficient
2020-07-06 20:18
#330
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Sweden Zolity
He isn't overrated. Just because he didn't fulfil his potential doesn't mean he's overrated. He was such a good dribbler, playmaker and goalscorer.
2020-07-06 17:30
Many people in this same thread already called him the GOAT or better than Messi/Ronaldo. His delusional fans made him overrated.
2020-07-06 19:17
I’m old enough to remember his top performances... He had few real fucking good seasons with Barça... but he was losing too many balls trying impossible dribbles or passes... Yet, it was really a joy to watch him. When he could make those impossible plays, it was like the best thing you could ever see in the game of football. Still, it is true that he wasn’t as efficient as messi or ronaldo. With Messi and Ronaldo you get results... Ronaldinho is more on the show side of the business. But again, statwise he still has the numbers: 70 goals 50 assists in 145 la liga games is not bad at all.
2020-07-06 19:39
Yep, his Barça times was great, but after that it was just downhill until he went to Atlético Mineiro. I’m not denying his greatness, as he inspired a entire generation and is one of the most famous footballers worldwide, nevertheless, his fanbase is deluded cancer, sadly :(
2020-07-06 19:45
how old are you. he is the god of modern football..
2020-07-06 19:41
no, he isn’t.
2020-07-06 19:46
Ronaldinho's peak was really good, but like, it was for 1-2 years, and when he could be the star player and win the world cup, he didn't perform and already was in his downfall. He lacked responsability imo. But his impact in barcelona was huge, he pretty much revived that team. He is on the top 10 players, but Cristiano Ronaldo, Messi, Ronaldo and maybe Neymar are above him
2020-07-06 20:17
not even close to top 10
2020-07-06 20:20
2 ballon d'ors, champions league and wc are enough to put him on top 10, but not on top10, maybe he's like the 8 or 9
2020-07-06 20:23
maybe top 30
2020-07-06 20:25
+1
2020-07-31 17:12
*1 ballon d or, carried in the WC, dozens of players have won multiple CL titles.
2020-07-06 20:30
#358
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Brazil gabeeee
how many world cups does your country have? sorry ronaldinho has 1 brazil name here a country with most championship (colonized ones - because colonizers doesnt count)
2020-07-06 20:19
My country has 5, thanks for asking. Ronaldinho hard carried by Ronaldo and RivaldoKKKKKKK, shitted himself in 2006 and 2010KKKKKK
2020-07-06 20:38
#390
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Brazil gabeeee
hahahaha tu nem sabe ver bandeiramermao
2020-07-10 19:29
cry, kid.
2020-07-17 14:22
True ++++
2020-07-06 20:26
ronaldinho was pure football. if you say hes overrated your just a sad person
2020-07-06 20:31
0 arguments, nice
2020-07-06 21:31
nice joke thread, I laughed
2020-07-06 21:21
+1
2020-07-07 11:06
hltv.org/forums/threads/2335240/goat-of-.. for those who say Ronaldinho isn't overrated, look at this kid.
2020-07-09 20:32
-10/10
2020-07-17 12:31
#399
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Czech Republic Kwido
Always been saying this. Ronaldinho is the flashiest player but nowhere near where people put him. Just reading those replies tells me so. “Hes magic, hes pure football, his style, his smile etc”. Those are just emotions people should rather look at numbers and actual impact instead of just the eye test. Im sure i could name like 10 brazilians who were better than Ronaldinho.
2020-07-17 12:44
+1,sad truth is most of these people never saw him playing themselves, only heard stories and watched few clips of him. Is kinda like ScreaM, imo
2020-07-17 13:10
DELUSION 100
2020-07-17 14:37
#427
2020-07-17 15:31
#401
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Other delmaszm
Peak Ronie was godlike, you'd turn on the TV just to see him shit on players, but his work ethic was bad. Dude was probably high or drunk most of the time by the end of Barcelona. He was here to have fun and get money
2020-07-17 13:04
One of the most gifted of all time but i dont think he worked hard at all, thats why he was in bad shape most of the time and indeed wasted his potential, still one of the most memorable players of all time but not even close to being in the race for GOAT
2020-07-17 13:16
+1111, he lacked Work Ethic and Winning Mentality, could you imagine Ronaldinho with Kobeish dedication? That would be a different breed of footballer, but that’s just a “what if”, sadly.
2020-07-17 13:39
do not count goal numbers and title numbers. well, he also has many of those. go watch him play. remember this, football is just a part of entertainment industry. if football cirtus is not funny to watch, it wont make money.
2020-07-17 13:33
??? There are freestylers that do exactly that and even more flashy stuff. You have guys like Neymar, Saint-Maximin and others that do amazing dribbles. If your argument is because he does flashy youtube highlights, therefore he’s the GOAT, I must say it’s a 8/8.
2020-07-17 13:38
remember this, association football is not a performance game like diving or figure skating, in which players do nonantagonistic shows and then referees rate them. so freestylers are no use at all. who does those amazing plays in top-level competitive yards is the true goat. neymar also does flashy dribbles and passes, so he is the most expensive player ever in history, any problem? but as to GOAT or something, i don’t like to call him greatest, i’d rather call him best. and i definitely accept other opinions that he’s not the best. performance is more like art rather than competition, and art can hardly be rated as 1st 2nd 3rd.
2020-07-17 20:42
I see your point. I’m totally fine with people calling him the best ever or one of the best (even if I disagree, as I do not believe flashy dribbling alone equals skill), but I strongly disagree with calling him the greatest.
2020-08-04 14:19
#413
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Sweden Trkmag
I mean he had an insane peak, he was chosen as the footballer as the year, but as you say he probably lost a bit of hunger after winning ballon d'or, CL and World Cup. If he pushed himself he would absolutely be in the GOAT debate, but as it played out a player like Ronaldo with good skills and insane consistency or a player like Messi with insane skill level and insane consistency will always be better.
2020-07-17 14:15
at his peak he was greatest player to ever touch the ball but his peak was too short cuz of bad mentality.
2020-07-17 14:19
No, he wasn´t. There have been players with more goals, assists and dribble ratio than peak Ronaldinho, so yeah, he is far away from being the greatest in anything.
2020-07-17 14:22
Seek help.
2020-07-17 14:36
can’t give an argument, huh?
2020-07-17 14:37
Trying to be edgy and cool, huh?
2020-07-17 14:43
#427
2020-07-17 15:21
+1
2020-07-17 14:23
I don't think his mentality was "bad". I mean, it was bad for performance, but he always've looked very happy, in and out of the field. Even in prision, the guy is full of joy and smiles
2020-07-17 14:33
When he was 26 (At 2006) he had won an World Cup, a Champions League, two times ballon D'or. More money than he could've ever imagined. How to keep motivated after that? He was never a guy that enjoyed that fierceless competition like CR7 and Messi. He didn't want to retire at the time, but he clearly didn't have anything else to win and wouldn't put any big effort into anything. He just wanted to enjoy life. I don't know about you, but I don't feel joy in athletes that put everything into winning. Just look at Astralis burn out.
2020-07-17 14:31
Ok, so what? Everyone knows he had a shit mentality, is he the GOAT because he won things early? Wtf is this logic, lul.
2020-07-17 14:34
No, he isn't the GOAT, he didn't wanted to be and wouldn't be because he isn't this kind of person. The thing about him is that he don't even wanted to be this "myth" people talk about it. He just wanted to be happy. His mentality is shit for soccer, but for himself is good. What I mean is that he is overrated. Mainly because didn't even wanted and neither tried to be the things people talk about him.
2020-07-17 14:39
Yes, I agree. Ronaldinho’s legacy and the myth/hype is bigger than the actual player itself. I said earlier in this thread, but Ronaldinho with a Kobe or Ronaldo mentality would be the GOAT
2020-07-17 14:40
But I don't see nothing wrong with it. Most of CS players give up at some age. Neuroscientists showed there isn't that big of a physical difference between e-sports players from an 16 to a 40 yo. But they just don't have the motivation to keep going. Sometimes you just want to move on to something else. But people keep saying "if Ronaldinho had...." but he would never do things differently, sometimes people get tired of trying hard.
2020-07-17 14:46
Idk why are you comparing e-sports to actual sports(last is more demanding both physically and mentally, higher stakes, higher body demanding, etc). But yeah, the whole “what if Ronaldinho...” is cancer.
2020-07-17 14:48
I'm comparing because one is sitting on a chair, and even considering this, people still get tired. (Also because it is a argument I know everyone on forum can understand)
2020-07-17 14:53
Ok, I got u.
2020-07-17 15:11
no he is not cry is free
2020-07-17 14:34
Overrated when he was probably the most talented player to play the sport? You absolute degenerate, seek medical help before its too late. You can always use a rope tho. LMAO.
2020-07-17 14:35
#427
2020-07-17 14:37
He wasnt Overrated. Everyone remembers him because of his skill, not achievements. This guy got a standing ovation from Madrid fans while playing for Barcelona. I dont need to add more. Dont let your delusion take over your mind LMAO. I know, you are trying to be super cool and edgy by sharing your useless and uncommon opinion. It won’t make you special. Get well soon LULW.
2020-07-17 14:42
What? Ronaldo got a standing ovation from Juventus in a UCL semi final while scoring one of the most beatiful goals (imo, that Zidane volley is the best in UCL’s history, but Ronaldo’s bicycle is up there) in UCL history, Ronaldo (Fenômeno) got a standing ovation from ManU fans while trashing them in the UCL (I think it was a quarter final) while scoring a hat-trick. Is this really your only argument? I mean, it’s pretty weak, even for delusional Ronaldinho fans. Anyways, great chat, kid, you clearly showed you can’t make an argument or write 3 lines without insult or ad hominem, so I don’t see why should I take this discussion any further if you won’t give a single valid point.
2020-07-17 14:49
So we are talking about Ronaldo or Ronaldinho? Can’t use any other argument so you start writing about Ronaldo? I never said Ronaldinho was the best player to ever play. He was the most talented one. Looks like you have some sort of brain tumor pressing on one of your vital nerves and it affects your ability to read. Like I’ve said before. Get some help before it’s too late, you absolute degenerate kid. Can’t fucking believe how braindead you are. Actual neurological phenomenon.
2020-07-17 14:52
You said Ronaldinho was the best because he got a standing ovation, I just showed many players did the same with greater performances in greater stages. I know is hard to you to understand basic english or think, but if you want I can draw it to you. Also, showing toxicity again trying to cover the lack of arguments, KKKKKKKK
2020-07-17 14:55
Ignore the child... he is beyond help.
2020-07-17 15:20
Mad and without arguments KKKKKKKKKK
2020-07-17 15:21
without? told you stats doesnt show everything and u start crying on pm...
2020-07-17 15:26
yes, ronaldinho goat because he nutmeggs trash players and chokes in UCL and WC, KKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK
2020-07-17 15:27
That’s what I am doing now. Poor child.
2020-07-17 15:53
#427
2020-07-17 16:14
dude his playstyle is fucking legendary, he didnt fullfill his potential because of money, do u know how it feels as a broke man becoming a millionaire, this guy was partying and coming late to training so yea he threw it all away but fuck that he became a rich bish, but anyway isnt he in jail rn
2020-07-17 15:33
I'm pretty sure he's still in jail, but I don't really know tbh
2020-07-17 16:14
#458
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Australia CLEGGY
soccer is overrated.
2020-07-31 17:15
nt murica
2020-07-31 17:27
#462
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Australia CLEGGY
play an actual sport like australian football not lady sports
2020-07-31 17:28
Australia chad country, play rugby and killing giant spiders in the same afternoon after eating some nice kangaroo steak
2020-07-31 17:31
#466
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Australia CLEGGY
nice brazil soccer playing iq go back to living in poverty k thx
2020-07-31 17:33
why so agressive, dude. I was actually for real, Australia is a great place to live, but yeah, keep malding, I guess
2020-07-31 17:34
#468
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Australia CLEGGY
you mad mibr will not make it to major sadsad 😥
2020-07-31 17:35
poor attempt at baiting or you’re still malding?
2020-07-31 17:36
#470
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Australia CLEGGY
lul really got you riled up now bra71lian
2020-07-31 17:37
Poor attempt at baiting, I guess. Idk, man, you sound really tryharding for this one so I give you an 1/8
2020-07-31 17:38
#472
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Australia CLEGGY
is this meant to be humorous?
2020-07-31 17:39
Not really. You tried to bait some reaction, you failed, but it’s a 1/8 out of your effort. Cheers.
2020-07-31 17:41
#479
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Australia CLEGGY
BAHAHAHAH embarrassing...
2020-07-31 17:58
Dunno if someone didn't tell you before but you aren't funny
2020-07-31 18:03
+1
2020-07-31 23:14
#527
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Australia CLEGGY
and who are you snowflake?
2020-08-01 04:02
0/8
2020-07-31 23:55
No my dude. Ballon d'Or made the most overrated footballer of all time out of Modric. But I agree about Ronaldinho. No matter how joyful it was watching him play, his numbers at his peak dont come even close to Messi's average season. Ronaldinho wasnt decisive enough to be compared to Messi or Ronaldo.
2020-07-31 17:27
Idk, most people started to hate Modric (Ronaldo fans) after the Ballon D'Or and nobody even talks about him in GOAT conversations, but yeah, I agree that BDO was insanely dumb
2020-07-31 17:30
Messi and cr7 has good numbers cause modern football is total shit There were 10 times better players maradona, ronaldo, maldini, zidane, ronaldinho peak
2020-08-01 07:03
LMAO
2020-08-01 12:16
0/8 or extremely low football knowledge
2020-08-01 14:50
You are max 18 retarded kid
2020-08-01 18:53
#529
2020-08-01 18:56
I get your point Ronaldinho is not even close CR7 or Messi (no one is) You are also right when you say he never fufilled his potential, he was simply to lazy and at 27-28 years old he was just done. BUT in his prime years at Barcelona he was a sensational, no one can deny that. But then again some people actually believe Maradona is better than Messi. That is the definition of being delusional.
2020-07-31 17:39
Agreed, my friend.
2020-08-02 00:36
#477
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Europe L30n@rd0
well, there is being great, and then there is being great year after year after year so imo he was definitely up there with the best of the bests when he played at his peak, but cant compare with messi or cr7 because of consistency factor, i guess was beautiful to watch him though
2020-07-31 17:50
But Ronaldinho’s best season isn’t comparable even to an average season from Messi or Cristiano, for consistency basis, there are tons of players who managed to put the same numbers as Ronaldinho’s peak, but in multiple seasons.
2020-07-31 18:09
#498
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Europe L30n@rd0
football is not just numbers
2020-07-31 22:49
bad bait.
2020-07-31 23:06
#502
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Europe L30n@rd0
whatever man if you are going to just go full on htlv in a discussion, just dont reply
2020-07-31 23:51
Not really, if football isn’t numbers, let’s take a look: NT team: Messi hard carried Argentina to a WC final, won the Olympics with them and is also the top striker for his country and top playmaker Cristiano had one of the most legendary showings against Spain, won 2 titles with his NT while playing in EU, undoubtedly the greatest player in PT’s history. Ronaldinho: has 1 good game for the NT in his entire career, played like shit in 2006 and wasn’t even called in 2010 Clutch factor: Ronaldinho has basically no goals in finals at all, he lacks decisive moments or last minute goals Ronaldo: I mean, the Atlético match is fresh in your memory, isn’t it? Messi: most goals in El Classico, 2nd in UCL knock out goals just behind... Ronaldo! It can’t be how big they’re for the teams, Messi is literally considered Jesus in Barcelona and Ronaldo dominated the UCL while at Real, fucking 3 champions in a row. Only Di Stefano is more of a idol than him and even some might consider him the greatest Real player ever, but let’s not forget that he also managed to be a idol in United (arguably the biggest club in England) and will most likely go down as an idol for Juve considering what he accomplished in two seasons there at 34 (Ronaldinho was retired at this age, btw). And if you fucking seriously saying Ronaldinho is better because he did flashy dribbles, I must say you’re a moron.
2020-08-01 00:02
Ronaldinho’s best season: 24 goals, 18 assists. Messi, in this season, managed to get better numbers with equally shitty team, playing in a far more competitive league. Not to mention what Ronaldo is doing at 35. So you have any argument or your just will come up with excuses like “football isn’t numbers” or that “ronaldinho’s magic” and because of it he’s the goat
2020-08-01 00:15
GOAT in terms of peak, his actual skills and skill set unmatched by anyone before or after him thusfar, the most complete player to ever touch a ball and most of it was natural talent because he didn't train like the way players like CR7 does. He could of been so much more but that was his decision.
2020-08-01 03:01
So skill=flashy dribbling? Lul. Messi has better dribble ratio than Ronaldinho, better seasons both scoring wise and assisting wise. But yeah, keep with this false narrative of “unmatched peak” of 40 goals contributions :D
2020-08-01 03:53
Ronaldinho gaucho was the most fun to watch, and if saw the complete games, not video of youtube, of his seasons in paris saint-german and barcelona you can see why people think his one of the best players in history..people say he didnt achive his potential because he didnt put the work as professional player like christiano or messi djd...considering ability and capacity to create chance of goals he was one of the best...
2020-07-31 18:06
lol
2020-07-31 18:10
lol
2020-07-31 18:11
glad we agree
2020-08-01 01:15
not really
2020-08-01 02:35
lol
2020-08-01 02:37
lol
2020-08-01 17:02
#489
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Brazil hugoooo
Think in mind that Ronaldinho was a god while partying all around the world as a single, training less than others, drinking, doing shit... C. Ronaldo and Messi are gods while being good guys focused, married... only god knows how good Ronaldinho would be if he was a serious guy, that trained at least 50% of what C. Ronaldo trains.
2020-07-31 18:31
Great story, but he’s still massively overrated.
2020-07-31 19:05
no one considers him the goat. he is the favorite player of some but except for like 1% of the population no one says he is the goat. he is one of the greatest players and he has the ballon d'or to confirm that. messi is the goat and cr7 is the 2nd best. the most overrated player is pele because people actually think he is the goat despite not even being top5.
2020-08-05 18:18
I loved seeing clips of Ronaldinho. Out of all the footballers I've watched, his clips and tricks stick in my memory. Won't say he's the GOAT or anything, but I'll remember Ronaldinho before CR7 or Messi.
2020-07-31 19:45
ok
2020-07-31 21:02
Not going to discuss about it with someone that didn't even watch his matches cuz weren't even born in the time.
2020-08-01 00:06
/thread
2020-08-01 00:11
No arguments, expected from “saudosista”
2020-08-01 00:15
You don't know much about football, there's no point to discuss it with you. Probably a Enzo CR7 fan.
2020-08-01 03:30
so... crying and ad hominem? Mad saudosista, kek
2020-08-01 03:54
"ad hominem" "sudosista" "kek" That's what I'm talking about.
2020-08-02 04:14
??? I know “ad hominem” might sound a little complicated, but I guess you should try reading about it, Schopenhauer is a great mind. So, can you give a single valid point to back up your delusion of Ronaldinho? No? Ok, then stop posting dumb shit and embarrassing yourself.
2020-08-02 04:52
You're so funny kkkkkkkkkkk
2020-08-03 02:02
Expected.
2020-08-03 02:57
>"fan of shrek" >discussing about football that's what I'm talking about
2020-08-03 23:34
Shrek> FalleN
2020-08-03 23:56
#509
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United States girls
ronaldinho = skadoodle except skadoodle hasn't gone to prison yet
2020-08-01 00:15
Ronaldinho = ScreaM Flashy plays, delusional fans, never showed up in finals
2020-08-01 00:16
Hes one of the most talented players of all time
2020-08-01 01:43
true
2020-08-01 02:35
I guess his prime was short but when he hit his peak his skill with a football was unlike any other I've seen even Messi & Cr7 don't have skill with a football like that I've never seen someone who was just a god at every aspect of the game from dribbling to long shots, free kicks, passing, speed, he had everything and could score anyway no players have that package but his career at the top was to short.
2020-08-01 02:50
passing/speed = not the fastest player not even at his peak, idk wtf are you on Free kicks = Messi literally broke FK record like last season, lol long shots = there are stats that show there are a multitude of players better than him at this, but yeah Dribbling= Messi has better ratio, I’m pretty sure Neymar has a similar ratio and is just as flashy while playing against better defenders overall. again, keep with your delusional narrative of “unmatched peak” consisted of 40 goals contributions and the biggest choke art in WC history! :D
2020-08-01 03:59
I actually thought passing=pacing when writing this, my bad. But yeah, Pirlo, De Bruyne, Ozil, Zidane and many others have showed what truly is a playmaker in football. Not to mention how Messi broke an assist record this season.
2020-08-01 15:15
I actually can’t answer this, first good argument in this thread. +1
2020-08-01 03:54
#544
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Poland yanzie
>overrated >Ronaldinho pick one im not a barca fan but Ronaldinho was pure magic,such a talented player that made difference,unlucky that he chose to party but still his decision tho
2020-08-01 15:31
Just look at this thread, mad fanboys all around claiming he’s the goat without anything to back up this claim. I’m not saying he was a bad player, far from it, but he has one of the worse fanbases in football because of their delusion.
2020-08-01 15:48
#579
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Poland yanzie
dont think he is the goat aswell but more people more views
2020-08-01 17:36
I'm a Real Madrid supporter and I have to admit I've never seen someone with his skill. I honestly believe He could have been the best ever, but he went for the party and drugs route, truly a shame but watching him play was a true spectacle.
2020-08-01 16:01
The greatest showman
2020-08-01 16:16
basically s1mple ?
2020-08-01 16:06
basically ScreaM
2020-08-01 16:10
ok that's probably more accurate
2020-08-01 16:12
#588
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Poland JKG
Well yes I agree he is super overrated, but if we are talking about pure skill here only then you can easily compare Ronaldinho with every single footballer of all time He has shitty stats tho, played only few years on the highest level and overall was remembered as much better than he actually was. It's all because of how likeable and iconic he was (Polish Virtus Pro is the best example of that in CS scene) You can watch his highlights on YT and say that he was godlike, but you can also watch Giroud's goals and say that he is the best of all time. Being one of the best footballers of all time is something more than having great highlights
2020-08-03 03:18
#593
2020-08-03 23:57
#589
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Germany G3er
He wasn't the most objective based player nor a technique centered one but in terms of being familiarized with the ball, control and will he was the best there ever was, it seemed like he wasn't even playing, it was so easy for him
2020-08-03 03:23
I agree that he was one of the best ever, but one of the greats? It’s kinda a stretch.
2020-08-03 23:57
In what sense??? He's clearly the most raw-skilled player to ever have played the game, but nobody claims he was the most successful or anything.
2020-08-04 19:06
Too much hype, in this same thread there are delusional claims of him being the GOAT, or better than Messi or Ronaldo. I don't think he's bad by any means, but his fans are delusional and none of them is able to give an argument disproving what I said.
2020-08-04 19:09
The control and sheer fluidity he had with the ball is what engrave his image in our heads so strongly. I love Messi but to claim that Messi's movement is anywhere near as fluid, beautiful, cohesive and smooth as Dinho would be delusional, to be Frank, any serious old Argentinian journalist will rank Di Stefano higher skill-wise. For example, Messi can run 40M and dribble past 3 rivals , then pass a great long ball centro. Dinho will only run 20M and dribble around 2 rivals, but the way he moves will be much more aesthetically pleasing, Messi is effectively +200% better player, but Dinho ranks higher on the eye test. This is all there is to him, nobody says he's a greater player than Messi, Zidane, CR7 or Ronaldo Nazario, but his raw-skill is still largely unmatched, i doubt a player with better skill than him has been even born yet.
2020-08-04 20:05
I do agree that Ronaldinho is prob the most plastic, inventive and creative player with the ball of all time, as I said above, he was the perfect and greatest showman football has ever seen, his entertainment value is just huge. However, I do not believe in him being the best of all time (well, not alone), why? Because I don’t consider dribbling and dribbling alone the only factor into deciding who’s the best. For me, scoring, assisting, playmaking, pacing, leadership and stepping up when it matters, all of these listed are necessary for the perfect player, some of which Ronaldinho either lacks (leadership and stepping up) or just has some better than him (scoring). This said, I do consider Ronaldinho one of the best, however, I believe players such as Messi, Zidane, Neymar (yes, Neymar I know this sounds absurd, but if you want, I can perfectly back this up), Maradona, Zico, Pelé, George Best and few others all in the same category as Dinho. As for the second statements, mens(( there were so many claims that he’s the GOAT here in this post or claiming some of those you listed are trash compared to him. I know that it sounds obvious that he isn’t the GOAT, that’s why I was impressed by the amount of backlash this thread recieved.
2020-08-04 22:20
I agree with you 100%
2020-08-04 19:12
thanks, manito.
2020-08-04 19:16
btw, what's your view in Messi and specially Neymar?
2020-08-04 19:18
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