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Atheist bettors come
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Morocco bobby_j 
The most important bet of your life o.quizlet.com/duFMvb3Dw43p-hJF7Vi-aQ.png choose wisely
2020-07-06 22:58
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Lithuania Martis
Bullshit
2020-07-06 22:59
#7
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Morocco bobby_j
how so
2020-07-06 23:01
What about not wager for or against? What's the result in that case?
2020-07-06 23:04
depending on the faith.. eternal punishment, i suppose.
2020-07-06 23:05
If god exists, I will say "I didn_du_noffing"
2020-07-06 23:06
at this point if god exists he is the best player ever in hide & seek
2020-07-06 23:07
True
2020-07-06 23:07
#145
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Greece Noocklas
if you could see God u would be forced to believe in him, but God said that He gave freedom to people to believe what they want. I bilieve in god and He showed me many signs that He is there
2020-07-07 13:07
yesterday i saw allah he spoke of many things that he claimed were true. the other day vishnu and the same thing happened. last month i was abducted by aliens who claimed the galactic overlord xenu brought us to this planet. claim all you want.. that doesn't make it true. even if you see the signs.. romans used to see the birds flying and thought they were signs. if the things i claimed in the first paragraph were true or at least some of them were, i'd more likely say i was being insane or hallucinating.
2020-07-07 13:12
#155
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Greece Noocklas
Anyone could say what I said, dont remember this though, remember that If you dont try to find God He is not going to show up and then u will be forced to believe Him.
2020-07-07 13:15
if you dont worship the lord juju of the mountains you will be thrown down a volcano into the underworld where u will burn in the bowels of the earth until lord juju farts and throws you out.
2020-07-07 13:19
#158
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Greece Noocklas
If you choose not while u know He does exist then suddenly you will be punished, but God has plans for everyone, maybe u just have to wait until He gives you a sign. But please if you dont know much about God, I am an orthodox christian btw, you shouldn't talk about religional stuff, If you really want to find the God, I could litterally buy and send you a translated version of the Orthodox bible
2020-07-07 13:23
dont bother i will just use it as tinder next time i go to my summer cabin.
2020-07-07 13:28
#161
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Greece Noocklas
u see, u dont want to bileve there is god, you dont want to have that pressure of not doing sins, but I can't force you do anything, bye
2020-07-07 13:31
you sound like a zealot, therefore talking to you is useless. your morality is defined by your understanding as to what is sin, which makes debating ethics useless. you claim i don't want to believe, which is untrue. i don't believe, because there's no EVIDENCE indicating the existence of a deity. you claim i don't want to have the pressure of not doing sins, but thing is.. i just want to be a better person.. i sincerely think becoming religious is antithetical to that want. if you need religion to stop you from murdering everyone, then believe all you want.
2020-07-07 13:36
#163
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Greece Noocklas
I am sorry i can't help you anymore and that's why my english is not that strong, but I still think that u dont really want to believe, what if "my" God is real? U dont even want to discuss about His existence
2020-07-07 13:42
you were never helping anyone. i've read through the whole bible once and i gotta say it's definitely one thing i will never ever touch again. let someone else torment their brain cells with that shit. i'm willing to discuss the existence of any god at the same level as yours, which again leads me to the same point which i demonstrated in #30 he is the master in hide and seek. you're basically repeating the same mantra that every other evangelical christian is saying "YOU JUST GOTTA BELIEVE HARD ENOUGH AND THEN Y'ALL WILL FIND GAWD. HE'S EVERYWHERE. YOU JUST GOTTA LOOK AT ALL THE SIGNS! YESTERDAY I FOUND JESUS IN MY TOAST." i just put your god in the same basket with any other batshit crazy beliefs. aliens at roswell, flying discs, the celestial teapot, big juju of the mountain, allah, thor, zeus, etc. the difference between you and me is that i don't believe in any of them. you just chose ONE and thought it was correct.
2020-07-07 17:03
#178
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Greece Noocklas
rip you
2020-07-07 17:41
then comes the empty threat of stick and the carrot. do this x or else you will suffer y and z.
2020-07-07 18:35
#185
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Greece Noocklas
It's not excaclty like this. Heaven is god being with you, but if you choose not to be with him, then you stay in earth which becomes hell
2020-07-08 09:02
M8 when you die you lose all consciousness
2020-07-08 09:07
#188
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Greece Noocklas
no you wont, you will not have that human mind or body but will be still you from your soul. It's hard to understand, even to explain but if we try to think like god we cant. Look around and see how harmoniously created is the world. It cant be a chance like the bing bang ppl say, even then there is a chance of infinite 0 and 1 at the end
2020-07-08 09:13
Even if a god created the world that doesnt change the fact that when your brain turns off you lose consciousness. Souls dont exist. Its just you and your consciousness until it shuts off and you go to sleep forever. Biology doesnt care about your beliefs
2020-07-08 09:18
it's no use. he's a zealot. there's not a single thing you can say to him that will even cause him to think about your arguments or the implications of them. * he's like look at all this harmonious world and i'm like the fuck are you talking about? there's chaos in abundance everywhere. he sounds even worse than a fucking hippie who wants to heal the world by overdosing himself on cannabis.
2020-07-08 10:10
#201
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Greece Noocklas
its so funny for you that have no idea
2020-07-08 13:39
bro, you aren't on the open minded side here, so shut the fuck up.
2020-07-08 15:47
#209
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Greece Noocklas
I talk to an older friend of mine how knows more stuff than me, he just told me dont talk to these people, if they really want god they will find him, bye
2020-07-08 21:44
your friend is an idiot. we need to talk to each other and understand our arguments, but you have no arguments. you are just saying what you feel. nothing you say is factual. and back to the part where your friend says, "don't talk to these people" enjoy your echo chambers. me, i'll still keep talking, because the most singular dangerous thing is a CHRISTIAN VOTER or a ISLAMIC VOTER or any person who votes on a religious basis.
2020-07-09 12:27
#211
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Greece Noocklas
lol u so dumb, i realise it now
2020-07-09 13:32
ok mr person who has an imaginary friendo
2020-07-10 01:25
There's no consciousness in the first place, there's a brain.
2020-07-08 13:45
*cough* The celestial teapot does exist *cough*
2020-07-07 17:46
kek
2020-07-07 18:44
What part of the plan has people that become school shooters, child rapists, serial killers, and have people be victims of such horrific acts? If god had a plan then there would be no free will and none of those things would have been capable of happening. You could do whatever you wanted to do right now because there is no fucking plan. Everything that happens just happens because humans have free will and can do whatever they want unless they are physically or mentally stopped
2020-07-08 09:43
#202
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Greece Noocklas
when I say plan I mean he will give opportiunities for these people to believe, and yes everyone is free to do anything, but I cant help anyone here, noone wants to believe, noone wants to believe in something called god. idk
2020-07-08 13:42
It’s not that people don’t want to believe. Some people are just not delusional and have broken thought processes
2020-07-08 18:37
#92
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Denmark iLoVeReD
If you suppose so, unlikely you don't believe in god, so you'll be fine if he does exist.
2020-07-06 23:40
In my teens years I used to deny his existance, now I just don't care if he does or doesn't
2020-07-06 23:43
#95
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Denmark iLoVeReD
Very true, I was on that too, but getting older I understood that I can't know this for sure.
2020-07-06 23:44
my sister says you have to be black for that to work
2020-07-07 17:05
Damn, I'm white. Can I at least get a kiss from her?
2020-07-07 17:20
Pascal is a moron
2020-07-06 23:06
yes it is a bad wager. if there's a 1000 drinks (gods) and 999 of them are piss (wrong) would you take this wager? i think the atheist wouldn't play this game.
2020-07-06 23:08
#37
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Morocco bobby_j
taking the 1 out of 1000 chance is still better than zero 👍
2020-07-06 23:11
but how do you know i didn't piss in the last drink?
2020-07-06 23:12
how do you know I don’t like pissed water?
2020-07-07 00:15
then you might as well say "i like to be wrong"
2020-07-07 13:01
No, I just like pee!
2020-07-07 13:04
ok u baitor. let's put this in another way: we make a 1000 bets and only one of them wins would u just say u like losing?
2020-07-07 13:06
I’m not a bettor, I just like pee!
2020-07-07 13:09
HERE, TAKE MY PEE. TOO DANGEROUS TO GO ALONE. *AAAAAH*
2020-07-07 13:13
Thanks for the pee, my friend. May the piss god be with you
2020-07-07 13:14
wut
2020-07-07 13:58
Nobody knows whats after life (and honestly, heaven for "good" poeple and hell for "bad" ones sounds a bit too good to be true) so this shit doesnt make sense anyway
2020-07-06 23:13
the concept of heaven doesn't really make sense anyway, if you start thinking about it rationally. besides why should someone experience eternal suffering in hell over simply being eradicated from existence? if someone designed such a system i would call that thing very immoral. there's a plausible situation where non-existence is preferable to existence or as in the case of us, humans, a situation where death is preferable to suffering. (eutanasia)
2020-07-06 23:20
I miss being an edgy 16 yo atheist 👌😟
2020-07-06 23:22
i miss being deluded enough that i would continue to live forever.. oh that's right, i don't. that never made sense. this life is finite and so is my existence anyway. when i went through confirmation more than ten years ago easily, cannot remember exactly when anyway nor don't i really care. the priest was talking about how our world came to be and that was the word he used, but he was actually referring to the universe and the big bang theory. while he was talking about the universe i thought about planetary formation. i realized that religion was not for me then, because it was so limited in its understanding of the natural world. i chose to go through with the confirmation anyway, because that was traditional and pretty much everyone around me did so as well. i know for a fact though that no one really cared much for it. it's not really about being edgy, though. it's about having as many people being secular about their worldviews as possible.. to prevent assholes from proselytizing their religious views in schools and on the streets.
2020-07-06 23:32
Im not going to read your shitty essay bruv 👌😒
2020-07-06 23:32
#57 you're the one being edgy, 'tis not me. besides i found that all religious people have an incredibly short attention span. you're simply following the formula like everyone else of your kind.
2020-07-06 23:38
lmao imagine getting trolled and baited by bozgor
2020-07-06 23:43
not trolled, just baited. maybe spent a little too much time responding to him. but what i say in #89 is truth. they do have extremely short attention spans, which is why they are religious and incapable of understanding longer arguments that effectively debunk their horseshit.
2020-07-06 23:48
i would advise you rewrite your statement as an opinion instead of a fact so you don't come across as ignorant
2020-07-06 23:49
why bother? i am ignorant of any religious people who don't have extremely short attention spans. there's no shame in this.
2020-07-06 23:58
#156
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Greece Noocklas
If you want to believe in God, not the God that everyone names in your counrt, but u want to find the real God, he will help you, the thing is that maybe u dont want to, because there annoying rules and things everyone is doing are considered sins. Good luck finding the thruth
2020-07-07 13:19
In short: its fucking bullshit but it works for some people.🙄👌
2020-07-06 23:58
Well it is not piss, you wont lose anything from being religious
2020-07-06 23:15
that's not really true. studies have shown that non-religious people are more capable of making the distinction between fact and fiction while religious people are worse at this.
2020-07-06 23:17
Probably because people born religious and most questioning ones are quitting. Also it wont matter anyway
2020-07-06 23:19
people are not born religious. children inherit the culture and religion of their parents. sometimes questions aren't allowed.
2020-07-06 23:21
Are you implying that God can't tell the difference between true belief and utility optimizing belief?
2020-07-06 23:05
#29
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Morocco bobby_j
this is only meant ti set your mind i to perspective and kickstart your true belief
2020-07-06 23:06
What if Christianity is not real and a Christian God doesn't exist, but some other religion is, and a non-Christian God exists? You will go to the non-Christian hell either way.
2020-07-06 23:18
#49
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Morocco bobby_j
Maybe the true God is understanding and you will be rewarded as long as you believe in the concept of God
2020-07-06 23:19
Christianity doesn’t allow you to reject Jesus though But if we assumed God was understanding and benevolent then he would probably give a "pass" to people that lived a virtuous life no matter what, even non believers (see: atheist's wager)
2020-07-06 23:35
Isn’t the Limbo something for atheist or other religion believers?
2020-07-07 00:19
#186
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Greece Noocklas
but this is not fair for these people, god wants to help everyone and He gives chanches to try something else, rhen if you dont want to believe in that and not because your parents were believing something different, then we dont know how God will judge them
2020-07-08 09:07
imagine thinking God cares 👌🙁
2020-07-06 22:59
i piss on god !
2020-07-06 23:00
#5
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France ProfNori
bruh dont piss on people like that its uncool
2020-07-06 23:00
#8
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Morocco bobby_j
rude
2020-07-06 23:01
#4
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France ProfNori
hopefully I am christian ever since im born 😎👍
2020-07-06 23:00
stupid logic, because the odds of choosing the right god, even if one does exist, is almost zero.
2020-07-06 23:01
why would a god punish the most logical portion of the population, it's like punishing people for being smart, a shitty god imo, doesnt deserve to be worshiped
2020-07-06 23:01
why would a superior metaphysicial being care about your opinion and limited reasoning? 👌😟
2020-07-06 23:03
#15
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Morocco bobby_j
+1
2020-07-06 23:03
he doesnt but i dont care about him either 👌😟
2020-07-06 23:03
the difference you are irrelevant for Him while you suffer 👌😎
2020-07-06 23:04
i already suffer 👌😎
2020-07-06 23:05
ofcourse you do, because you dont care about Him... 👌😟
2020-07-06 23:05
#13
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Morocco bobby_j
why should god care about logic? he can do what he wants. go back to reddit
2020-07-06 23:03
then he is not a "loving" god, he's a hypocrite
2020-07-06 23:04
#10
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Morocco bobby_j
we all know Allah is the only true God
2020-07-06 23:02
prove it
2020-07-06 23:02
What proof do you want?
2020-07-06 23:23
proof that a god exists, like SOMETHING, because none exists as far as im aware
2020-07-06 23:24
I'm pretty sure billion other people have no clue that you exist either, don't worry about that. What type of proof would suffice to you?
2020-07-06 23:25
not really my job to figure that out, someone is making a claim, I expect them to be able to back it up ill take anything within reason
2020-07-06 23:27
"ill take anything within reason" No you clearly don't. Because there is proof all around you as edgy as it sounds - this becomes apparent when you reflect and contemplate about our and every existence. For example, I already know the answer but I'ma ask you anyway to prove you later that you've no clue. - Who created/manufactured you?
2020-07-06 23:30
No one was created, we're a series of semi-random mutations & selection caused by a cool thing called evolution We aren't created, seeing that there are lots of things about our bodies that are really poorly designed
2020-07-06 23:59
> No one was created, we're a series of semi-random mutations & selection caused by a cool thing called evolution ROFL this is a first "semi" random mutations. Where did you get this from? Saying it's random, you're presupposing SO much that you already know what "normal" macro-evolution would look like. Yes, evolution that has always existed within species in our freaking bodies. That's different from macroevolution in which; even if given billion upon billion of years - it would never amount to making macro evolutionary changes on someones body/feature. It's not observeable therefore it can't amount to being a fact.
2020-07-07 00:13
micro and macro evolution describes the same process on different scales they exist, it's a fact. micro evolution is observed on the daily in labs, we can track evolutionary progress through millions of years,
2020-07-07 00:15
"Same process" on different scales? Oh God, this is why I should stop with mindless people in here. Micro evolution is what happens in our body, in which the scientists today take a leap of faith or rather ironically use "God of the gap" to conclude with no actual scientific observable proof that micro evolution over million of years LEADS to enormous changes in a species body functioning & features. >micro evolution is observed on the daily ""Yes, evolution that has always existed within species in our freaking bodies" Yes, that is basically what I said, why repeat this?
2020-07-07 00:26
Micro evolution is minor changes. Minor changes over longer periods of time result in large changes. You know, natural selection. I'm sure you've heard of it. We can track the evolution of species through MILLIONS of years, species split with distance and time, some die out due to an inability to compete, many more adapt.
2020-07-07 01:14
> Micro evolution is minor changes. Minor changes over longer periods of time result in large changes. Stop with your fantasy. It is not science if you can't test nor obeserve that - it's an assumption at best, in which you can't, via use of the scientific method - call macroevolution a fact just because variations (micro-evo) happens in our genes. uncommondescent.com/intelligent-design/a.. Some quotes from elsewhere: ""Evolution" mixes two things together, one real, one imaginary. People are shown the real part, which makes them ready to believe the imaginary part. That is how the idea of biological evolution has spread since 1859. Variation (microevolution) is the real part. The types of bird beaks, the colors of moths, leg sizes, etc. are variation. Each type and length of beak a finch can have is ALREADY in the gene pool and adaptive mechanisms of finches." "As Franklin Harold, retired professor of biochemistry and molecular biology at Colorado State University, wrote in his 2001 book "The Way of the Cell" published by Oxford University Press, "There are presently no detailed Darwinian accounts of the evolution of any biological or cellular system, only a variety of wishful speculations."
2020-07-07 01:32
If you concede the existence of micro evolution, then you HAVE to concede the existence of macro evolution, Because there's no reason why lots of minor changes wouldn't result in big changes with time. Again. we can accurately track the evolution of species through time, and we can accurately predict when and where we will find certain species before we know of their existence.
2020-07-07 01:37
I don't concede "the existence of micro evolution". I know variations in our bodies is proven to be a fact via use of scientific method to arrive to this based on observations from biochemists, chemists - scientists. It's not "minor changes" it's MICRO changes, nice attempt in trying to closen the gap between these two. > Again. we can accurately track the evolution of species through time, and we can accurately predict when and where we will find certain species before we know of their existence. This is probably the most BS I've read in quite some time. Either you expressed everything wrong there or you've no clue what you're on about.
2020-07-07 02:01
Micro changes, whatever, It's semantics. MICRO changes over the course of 2 or so billion years is plenty of time to account for the biodiversity we see on earth. How else do you explain the apparent rise and fall and change in species over time?
2020-07-07 07:35
+1
2020-07-06 23:04
so dumb
2020-07-06 23:03
K, which one do i choose when i want that "infinite gain" mister?
2020-07-06 23:06
the gain of placebo and infinite ignorance
2020-07-06 23:05
#33
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Morocco bobby_j
but what if you're wrong?
2020-07-06 23:07
The chances of there being a god, small. The chances of there being a god who is like like Christianity or Islam? Zero. If there was a real god and religion was not a load of bullshit then religion would be consistent. When people "talk to god" its just them talking to themselves in their head so "god" agrees with everyone
2020-07-06 23:22
#31
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Morocco bobby_j
go for God 😎
2020-07-06 23:07
I think believing gives you more of an advantage when you are alone or feel like you need help. You have someone greater behind you so that makes you happier, and more calm. Also if god aint real, after you die it wont matter anymore so just take that lil advantage IF YOU WANT
2020-07-06 23:08
#36
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Morocco bobby_j
+1 westerners abandon their gods and replace them with watered down science then complain about depression and high suicide rates
2020-07-06 23:10
It is their choice bro, also science is amazing and has nothing to do with god
2020-07-06 23:11
i would rather be depressed and not deluded then live in an ignorant bliss 👌😐
2020-07-06 23:25
I don’t care about myself so why should I care about life after death lol
2020-07-06 23:11
Its not about gain or loss, its is about truth. And the truth is that existence of god illogical
2020-07-06 23:13
#45
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Morocco bobby_j
how do you know that? we still don't know anything about how our universe came to be, what is the nature of the void itself, what are particles ultimately made of. dont blindly believe in science "theories". they are theories for a reason
2020-07-06 23:17
the logic is that even if there is a "god" or some powerful being, the likelihood of him or it giving any kind of shit of my opinion or yours are almost guaranteed to be 0%, just like we don't give a shit about ants. if god existed he's pretty useless, gotta admit
2020-07-06 23:20
#54
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Morocco bobby_j
That's why it's a wager
2020-07-06 23:21
well, the wager is useless since he won't give a shit about you or your fucking wager mate
2020-07-06 23:22
#63
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Morocco bobby_j
what if he does though? you'll never know until you are dead
2020-07-06 23:24
then what? i'll already be dead. i will cease to exist. and let me guess you also believe in an afterlife: then you're saying that your god is so fucking evil, that just because a person who has done good his entire life, but just haven't chosen to believe in him, will be punished eternally for that simple fact? what kind of fucked up god is that, and who would worship such an awful being that would rather give priests who sexually abused children a "pass" because of the mere fact that they believe in him, over a person that have done nothing wrong except for not believing in him? you do realize how fucked up your supposed god sounds, right? nah, i'd rather suffer then mate
2020-07-06 23:36
#88
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Morocco bobby_j
don't apply your system of morals on a higher being. good and evil are subjective concepts. what you consider good others might consider evil. God doesn't owe you anything
2020-07-06 23:37
so you're saying raping children isn't an evil concept to your god? nice god, gtfo
2020-07-06 23:38
19. Generalize the Matter, Then Argue Against it 12. Choose Metaphors Favourable to Your Proposition 15. Use Seemingly Absurd Propositions 38. Become Personal, Insulting, Rude (argumentum ad personam) All of this in a single comment, Holy fucking shit KKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK
2020-07-07 00:30
so far with more knowledge about the idea of god is getting more and more delusional, and I dont see why would that change
2020-07-07 00:55
even science "theories" are not even related to God or consciousness, it is outside of observation and so science cannot comment on it
2020-07-07 13:47
Pascals wager is a TERRIBLE argument for religion or faith.
2020-07-06 23:18
So you believe in god just because you're afraid of hell? So basically you were threatened to believe: either you believe or you will suffer in hell for the whole eternity!! (flag doesn't check out but) I hate threats
2020-07-06 23:19
#56
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Morocco bobby_j
i'm a true believer since birth, this is a last resort to set the non believer's mind i to perspective so they can start believing for real
2020-07-06 23:22
You are Muslim I suppose? Or people are Christian in Morrocos?
2020-07-06 23:23
#65
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Morocco bobby_j
Muslim brother 😎👍
2020-07-06 23:24
So if you were born in a Christian country and had Christian parents you would most likely be a Christian? Cuz your parents and everyone around you would make you believe that Christianity is the true religion... have you ever think about this? I think that religions are more a cultural thing that you are kinda forced to follow since your birth than a true belief that you have because you saw or experienced or read something that made sense to you
2020-07-06 23:28
The last resort is fearing someone into believing something. How dumb does someone have to be to not see "not believing in god means you will go to hell" as the most blatant manipulation tactic
2020-07-06 23:33
Prove it or...
2020-07-06 23:22
Why would it be the fault of atheists that god didn't prove to them that she existed? Imagine you literally make a planet, run it like an authoritarian dictator and have people killed for not worshipping you then you fuck off for a couple thousands years, literally no interaction what so ever apart from like giving aids to children and bone cancer to them and so on and then when people die you'r like sorry bud you're going to hell for not believing in me and I'm supposed to be like well mate you were sat up here on your fat lazy ass doing fuck all focused on people putting their private parts in places they shouldn't apparently why is it my fault that you're such a lazy piece of shit and your followers are the most disgusting people on earth that do the most awful things to other people? Why would I even want to worship such a piece of trash?
2020-07-06 23:23
#69
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Morocco bobby_j
if god real what bad thing happen 😭😭 the existence of the universe is in itself a proof that a higher being exists. what else do you need?
2020-07-06 23:27
That's not evidence because there is no proof a god made it or causes it to function, we even have a working theory that the universe was created via a big bang where all matter was contained in a single point in space and then exploded, which is why the universe is constantly expanding. Plus the fact that there isn't even a part in the religious books where they say god created the universe, he created earth then he created light and then for some reason he created the sun and that's pretty much it and apparently he created in 5,000 years ago according to the religious teachings of the Abrahamic religions, which is false we know the earth is billions of years old. Try again.
2020-07-06 23:30
#76
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Morocco bobby_j
stopped reading at "theory".
2020-07-06 23:30
I know you did because you're a religious moron that will worship an ideology tfor the rest of your life and when you die it will lead to nothing and you've only excluded yourself from life as a result and I don;t care that you've done that it's your choice but keep it to yourself I don't want to hear your moronic beliefs.
2020-07-06 23:32
#83
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Morocco bobby_j
calm down brother your fedora is falling. i just want the best for you
2020-07-06 23:35
Nice ad hom that seems to be all you religious morons are good at these days all of your arguments have fallen through so you result to the shittest ones, the wager, the god of the gaps and ad homs. Expected from people as low IQ and brainwashed as you tbh.
2020-07-06 23:36
#91
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Morocco bobby_j
keep malding i'll enjo seeing you burn in hell for eternity. Maybe them Neil degrass tyson or richard dickens can save you
2020-07-06 23:39
Yet science exists now and there is enough evidence to show that no higher power is needed. Religion was a band aid reason for the things that could not be explained way back in the day. So your statement is purely based on ignorance
2020-07-06 23:36
inshallah brother, you wont persuade anyone sadly, but with time, they will understand.
2020-07-06 23:25
#71
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Morocco bobby_j
Inshallah brother. Alas i fear it will be too late for them by then
2020-07-06 23:27
Never to late I pray, God is almighty and forgiving.
2020-07-06 23:29
inshallah i can't wait to get my 72 virgins
2020-07-06 23:32
#86
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Finland jUPPE!
Does God know whether you really believed in Him or just worshiped in hope for getting into paradise? And does he care? Does Allah care whether you are sincere in your faith or not? Or is it enough for Him that you just perform all necessary rituals but don't really believe? At least I can say to God that I was 100% sincere even though I didn't believe in supernatural.
2020-07-06 23:36
+1 good questions my friend, I am with you on this one
2020-07-06 23:45
#99
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Malaysia Suno[t]
interesting questions, those are definitely scrutinized in the day of judgement for the Muslim.
2020-07-06 23:48
yeah i hear you get beheaded for infidelity like that
2020-07-07 07:43
I asked the same question and he answered in #29 It kinda makes sense, the idea is that you seek God and attain true belief. The problem comes with the "existence" of multiple gods and religions.
2020-07-06 23:55
what do you lose from believeing
2020-07-06 23:46
my reddit privilege
2020-07-07 07:43
sanity
2020-07-07 13:03
#101
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France CKs1
Yes but if god exist maybe he loves atheists you don’t know how god thinks
2020-07-06 23:49
even if there is a god (i dont think so) , he/she/it probably having so much fun looking at you little humans trying to understand the mysterious paths of god. God knows the meaning of existence, if it really has any meaning, and you trying to understand it is just a funny joke.
2020-07-06 23:50
But I don't wager against god. I hope that there is an eternal afterlife(which might just be because I am young) because I am scared of death. The thought of having NO thought terrifies me. Simply because I cannot agree with the idea of a god does not mean that I do not hope there is one.
2020-07-06 23:51
What? A smart sentence on HLTV? Can it be?
2020-07-07 00:15
It is impossible to experience non-experience so you do not need to worry
2020-07-07 13:50
Yes that is the fallacy of aristotle's theory of actuality
2020-07-07 20:25
Let's say that there is a God (I don't believe) and that I am sent to Hell or whatever for "eternal suffering." So what? Assuming I retain my memories from living, I would be satisfied enough in death that I had made some positive impact (whatever it may be) on the people around me or the world that I'd be ignorant of any suffering I would have in the afterlife.
2020-07-06 23:57
name 9/10
2020-07-07 20:25
YHWH is originally just a war god. The son of El and his wife Asherah. It's all just bs invented by humans.
2020-07-07 00:06
edgy atheist teens discussing with conservative extremely religious baiters is some of the best content HLTV has to offer
2020-07-07 00:34
+1 better than BR vs the community
2020-07-07 01:30
BR and the community got pretty saturated, people were trying to replicate MiBR_IS_OVERRATED baiting style and most failed, but this shit never gets old, maybe because instead of multiple thread a day, you get only 1-2 a week about this topic, so you won’t stop enjoying that easily. Is my favorite kinda of bait threads to follow, tbh.
2020-07-07 01:44
If God exists and he's just he won't send you to hell only cause you weren't a believer mens
2020-07-07 01:18
Its like a game developer heavily punishing the players for not being able to solve puzzles without any clues or direction
2020-07-07 01:32
so in dark souls 2, there’s this boss you have to fight while your movement is slowed in status-inflicting poison sludge. the developers solution to draining the poison was to have to walk over to this windmill completely out of the way of the level design, and burn the windmill with a torch (which essentially only had the purpose of burning that windmill). god is a japanese game dev
2020-07-07 07:41
The dumbest pic i've ever seen.
2020-07-07 01:22
You really think Pascal's wager is a good argument? Damn.
2020-07-07 01:36
Except if you believe in God you can have infine loss too : be sent to hell anyway, believe in a false God, etc.
2020-07-07 07:31
Here is the issue with this wager. It assumes that god doesnt know that your faith in him isnt true, you are essentially telling a lie by saying you believe when you dont, now tell me who do you think he will treat better, a good person who lead a good life who simple didnt believe because of the evidence, or someone who just said he believed so he could get into heaven, one is a liar one is not. Im pretty sure lying is a sin. Then theres one other small issue....... Which god? Lets say there are 2500 gods, you pick one and you have a 0.04% chance of being correct, and if you choose wrong that god will see you as a member of another faith and send you too hell, someone who believes in no god also doesnt have this issue and many atheist dont claim there is no god, they say there is no evidence so many dont deny the existence, whereas if you believe in a god you are either denying the existence of all other god or saying they are false. So nice try, but no.
2020-07-07 08:04
>now tell me who do you think he will treat better, a good person who lead a good life who simple didnt believe because of the evidence, or someone who just said he believed so he could get into heaven, one is a liar one is not. according to catholic christianity, the latter will be accepted into heaven and the former will not.
2020-07-07 13:02
the catholic god sounds like a cunt
2020-07-08 09:18
#152
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Greece Noocklas
man u dont pick a god by the luck, this man: huffpost.com/entry/andrew-bowen-12-relig.. tried all religions and found that there is only 1 God, If you want to believe to something stronger than humans you have to try all
2020-07-07 13:13
You do realise there's millions of people on this planet who claim to have found "god" and true peace and all of those sorts of claims?
2020-07-08 09:22
It's 2020 and people still believe in magical ghosts. So sad.
2020-07-07 11:04
#146
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Greece Noocklas
this is so dumb, noone can think like God
2020-07-07 13:09
That's the most retarded thing I've even seen
2020-07-07 13:10
#149
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Poland Hanse
Except chances for first collumns are equal to 0% so it's either finite loss or finite gain
2020-07-07 13:10
#150
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Denmark Ulver
Oh okay. I better worship all the gods mentioned throughout human history, because I don't want to risk worshiping the incorrect one.
2020-07-07 13:10
#159
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Germany Booya
everyone who passed out (e.g. running pretty fast against a rod) pretty much knows what comes after life ... its a black nothing and you couldnt care less because you´re dead
2020-07-07 13:24
What if you bet on the wrong god? Do you think he will forgive you? Or rather forgive someone who just didnt decide for one as there is no sign telling me which god to bet on whatsoever? Whom would a god rather forgive? The one who blindly followed a lie or the one who didnt beliveve in him as he didnt give them signs?
2020-07-07 13:49
#167
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Panama FUN4ENCE
Lmao 0/8
2020-07-07 13:53
so i can be in the valhalla and hell at the same time? interesting
2020-07-07 13:59
Its not like its a choice of believing or not, if i tell you or force you to believe in santa or Thor Zeus etc, will you be able to force yourself to believe? Wouldnt almight god know if ur faking your belief? As much as i would want to believe, i just can't and this is the case for most people.
2020-07-07 14:41
i always try to avoid religious people because they are just dumb troglodytes, talking to them is just a waste of time
2020-07-07 14:44
ok so which god should i worship
2020-07-07 15:20
If you believe in god only because of Pascal's wager, you are actually not believing and most likely get more punished by god if it exists.
2020-07-07 17:09
I witness that there is no God worthy of worship except Allaah.
2020-07-07 17:11
Classic Pascal Wager, based on the assumption that your god is the only real god, and not the +/- 5000 other gods that people speak of
2020-07-08 09:21
so you bet on god exists? too bad yo go to hell because you don't believe in flying spaghetti monster
2020-07-08 09:27
Finite loss if you bet on god and He doesn't exist? I think not. You only get one chance at life. If you spend all of it bound, and not doing what you actually want to due to some stupid belief in non-existent entity, that is infinite loss
2020-07-08 10:03
If god exists(50% chance in my view), he wouldnt want to be praised anyways as he made no attemot to tell anyone of his existence.
2020-07-08 10:11
I think everybody have the right to believe in whatever he/she wants, and we shouldn't kill, beat, disrespect or etc. other people only because they believe in other things than you. *everybody have the right to believe or don't believe * in whatever he/she wants
2020-07-08 10:14
+1111
2020-07-08 13:43
This is such retarded logic. You can't force faith. If you were to fake faith in order to not risk hell, an omnipotent being would be on to you and send your ass straight to hell for trying to fool it.
2020-07-08 10:14
who cars what people say about non existing stuff. If you want to gain some faith, go try to read mongolian names. Batbayardabalamanan Kuntulgumubunamatanan. Oh shit. Its raining here now
2020-07-08 10:19
Muslims are the happiest people on Earth. Maybe they’re doing something right.
2020-07-08 13:50
scandinavistan finally confirmed
2020-07-08 16:15
I'm happy that I ain't that dumb to think that there's a guy in the cloud that I would have to fear
2020-07-09 13:41
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