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Italy IT_CS_BEST_CS 
Why do people have to say BIG aren't onliners? i like BIG but it doesn't mean they wpuld have achieved anything if everything was normal. syrsoN is playing great but he's never been even remotely close to how good he is rn on LAN plus they have one of the greatest online players ever XANTARES. it's not big's fault it's only online rn but don't say they aren't onliners when more than half of their players barely even reached the playoffs in a t1 lan event before this period
2020-07-07 10:26
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thoughts?
2020-07-07 10:27
Same goes for vitality. They didnt have any results in lan like BIG this year. 9-12th finnish on IEM Katowice and 7th-9th place on Blast. 2 lans that were played this year.
2020-07-07 11:51
ik dude #41
2020-07-07 12:26
Vitality turned into NaVi last year. 0% strats 100% individual skill. S1mple and zywoo dropping 30 kills on every map. Rest of the team is irrelevant to the outcome.
2020-07-07 12:45
Currently you cant tell if Big has ONLY sucess Online. In the beginning of the Year they had a roaster change (2new Players) so they needed some time playing together and since then they played no Offline Tours (because there wasnt any) lets wait for the next LAN Big is playing
2020-07-07 14:49
#2
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Germany theo_cs
The big fans just dont wanne believe that big are onliners... they still think that they would be 1. on lans too haha, just let them believe what they want
2020-07-07 10:28
+1
2020-07-07 10:30
#17
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Lithuania Extazis
In lan gamestyles will change a lot of players will play passive
2020-07-07 10:42
+1
2020-07-07 10:51
#40
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Turkey Rhenie
weird how some germans just cant appreciate the fact that they have a decent team that can contend for titles for once in 20 years I see this self hatred all the time...
2020-07-07 11:25
#43
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Germany theo_cs
Onliners nothing more, nb likes big
2020-07-07 11:27
Germans got brainwashed into selfhatred Nothing new
2020-07-07 16:47
Proof they wouldnt have done anything on lan?
2020-07-07 10:29
more than half of their players barely even reached the playoffs in a t1 lan event before this period
2020-07-07 10:30
So?....
2020-07-07 10:31
#58
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Turkey LantarEZ
Did they play together before? And you did not watch xanta at boston major. He aint no onliner.
2020-07-07 14:13
#7
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Azerbaijan orxanplayer
Have they done anything on lan?
2020-07-07 10:33
Yes they won their first lan together with the new roster at dreamhack open(Tier 2) and the online started
2020-07-07 10:34
beat heroic and renegades...
2020-07-07 10:36
So?????? It was a new roster,nobody was going to invite them to a T1 event because they were a T2 team before roster changes
2020-07-07 10:37
still a meaningless tournament? doesn't mean they had achieved anything
2020-07-07 10:40
So you ask for thoughts then dont accept facts,thick skull
2020-07-07 10:42
never asked for anything but you do you man
2020-07-07 10:45
#1????
2020-07-07 10:47
Prior to that north won what 3 dh opens in a row? Wtf does a dh open prove when only shit teams are attending xD
2020-07-07 11:27
Tier 2 man
2020-07-07 10:37
Navi fan brain omegalul Do you not know what new roster means?
2020-07-07 10:38
Stfu There was enough time to practice with new roster,and they played against t2s.Navi won t1 tournament with new roster with ease.Excuses ongoing
2020-07-07 10:42
Big wasnt invited to any T1 events... read #12... BIG changed 2 players and navi changed one
2020-07-07 10:44
They never get to the playoff with current core in a T1 lan
2020-07-07 10:52
#12....
2020-07-07 10:54
They were shit on T1 lan with the same core, especially Tizian and Xantares. They will find it difficult to replicate the same form on lan when these two play like bots
2020-07-07 10:56
What was liquid winning with elige twitzz and nitr0 before adding stewie and naf? Nothing
2020-07-07 10:57
They won nothing before +stewie but they were in final consistently, beating T1 teams consistently, getting to T1 playoffs consistently. That is the biggest difference between Liquid's core and BIG's core
2020-07-07 10:58
I said stewie and NAF not just stewie
2020-07-07 11:00
They can be in playoffs without NAF as well. When was the last time Xantares get into T1 lan playoff?
2020-07-07 11:01
+1
2020-07-07 11:50
#9
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India _Jazz_
It's early to say whether they will play good on LAN or not. We will see how they do. It's not accurate to say that they are Onliners/ Good on LAN rn.
2020-07-07 10:36
#38
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Germany Empeeh
Thanks. Everyone seems to know exactly how they´ll be on LAN. The only fact is that they have done very well online with this lineup in the last few months. Hopefully they can keep the level. Just the fact that they didn´t play on a t1 LAN event with this lineup, doesn´t mean that they will be struggle for sure.
2020-07-07 11:19
if they can't keep it up on lan, CHEATERS!
2020-07-07 10:50
Onliners are teams that only performe in online tournaments and cant perform on LAN. BIG won both LAN events which they attended this year. I know that these were just tier 2 events but they didnt have the chance to proof themselves on tier 1 lan events because they werent invited to any. Calling them onliners already is just not fair. They should have the same chances as every other team to prove themselves
2020-07-07 10:51
So they will remain onliners until they prove themselves on lan (beating T1 team consistently)
2020-07-07 10:53
No they will be onliners if they wont beat t1 teams on lan Calling them onliners now is simply wrong
2020-07-07 10:57
Nah, they will remain onliners until they proved themselves on lan. The core of the team has too many chances to prove themselves on T1 lan
2020-07-07 11:00
This team has a completley differnt dynamic compared to last year You cant compare their former team to the team which they have now Also the whole corona situation makes playing on LAN impossible
2020-07-07 11:08
Tier3 events
2020-07-07 11:28
Doesnt really matter Still proves my point
2020-07-07 12:07
So BIG Will win tier1 Lan events because they managed to win 2x tier3 events Makes sense!
2020-07-07 13:03
i didnt say that read the thread and try again
2020-07-07 14:05
Me an intellectual: “well surely Big cant #1 as they never achieved anything offline, didnt quality for shit offline, won against t1 teams offline” Germans: “Well they won 2 dreamhack opens!!!! And they never got invited to tier1 tournaments, so they never got the chance to play tier1!!! - good teams Can actually manage to qualify for tier1 events and dont need invites. You gotta crawl before you can Walk buddy
2020-07-07 14:24
0 iq read the thread and try again buddy )))
2020-07-07 14:36
"Onliners are teams that only performe in online tournaments and cant perform on LAN. BIG won both LAN events which they attended this year. I know that these were just tier 2 events but they didnt have the chance to proof themselves on tier 1 lan events because they werent invited to any. Calling them onliners already is just not fair. They should have the same chances as every other team to prove themselves" - They cant perform on lan in tier1 events. They couldn't even qualify for any haahah
2020-07-07 15:28
+1
2020-07-07 11:51
+1
2020-07-07 10:53
#36
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Germany TrTafitson
Why do people have to say BIG are onliners? i know BIG got to #1 online but it doesn't mean they would'nt have achieved anything if everything was normal. syrsoN is playing great and he's been improving a lot within the last 6 months so how would you know, he couldnt do the same on LAN plus they have one of the greatest players ever XANTARES. it's not big's fault it's only online rn sodon't say they are onliners when 2 of their players already even reached 2nd spot in cologne and playoffs in faceit major (and tabsen also in krakow major) before this period
2020-07-07 11:14
#37
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Germany TrTafitson
thoughts?
2020-07-07 11:14
why does it have to be so controversial that a tean that has only beaten t1 teams online is called onliner?
2020-07-07 11:22
same goes for vitality even though zywoo will continue to drop 30 frags a game on lan cause he's always done it
2020-07-07 11:25
They would have also smacked them on LAN tbh. History shows that if you consitently beat tier 1 teams online, you can also beat them on LAN. Sadly there are no lan tournaments due to corona.
2020-07-07 11:52
It's too early to say that they are onliners or not. They didn't achieve many things beside 2nd at ESL colonge 2018 and some major Playoffs. But this roster hasn't played big LAN Events so you literally can't say of they are just onliners or not. We'll see in the future... Also: tabseN-good at LAN tiziaN-Ok (a bit worse than online :D) XANTARES-onliner syrsoN-Isn't that good in LAN as he's online but he can still perform( hltv.org/matches/2336710/vitality-vs-spr.. ) K1to-idk hasn't played that much LAN events
2020-07-07 11:45
#56
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Sweden MANDlNGO
Why people have to say they are onliners? I mean its just a game not real life. They just happen to run over all opponents right now. Just Accept it and move on.
2020-07-07 13:25
Another mad Vita fan because BIG won even though the beguettes had a 1 map advantage
2020-07-07 14:17
just let us enjoy... i will not start with : WE ARE SMART WE ARE LOYAL and etc i believe we (BIG) can still do something on LAN like the way we win tournaments (we will see)
2020-07-07 14:18
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