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WHO is the organisation that lied to cover China's ass aren't they? Good, they need defunding hopefully the UN is next given that they have pretty much every country that abuses human rights on their human rights panel.
2020-07-08 00:01
yessir
2020-07-08 00:00
+8
2020-07-08 08:54
#100
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Germany Jupe_Z
+1
2020-07-08 12:03
#102
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Germany Deli_88
Yessir
2020-07-08 12:04
+1
2020-07-08 12:08
+1
2020-07-08 12:18
+99999 U.N must be defeated, IMF must be destroyed.
2020-07-08 12:29
-un +unatco
2020-07-08 19:34
true
2020-07-08 12:37
+1
2020-07-08 12:43
+1
2020-07-08 13:45
#140
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Germany leftist
> "they have pretty much every country that abuses human rights on their human rights panel" just expel the USA and Israel from this panel??
2020-07-08 14:40
Obviously the person that hates jews would think Israel is the only country that abuses human rights, expected from a national socialist to be honest. I'm assuming you're also completely fine with China Sterilising minorities, the multiple countries that just kill gay people and atheists and so on too.
2020-07-08 14:41
+1
2020-07-08 15:04
did you see his name?
2020-07-08 15:55
#179
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North America Swboy1010
He is a socialist and the Nazis were socialist so....
2020-07-08 19:48
HEIL THE SOCIALISTS
2020-07-08 20:57
#207
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North America Swboy1010
For the volk comrade.
2020-07-08 21:42
+1
2020-07-08 20:58
wow I didn't know the UN has an hltv account
2020-07-08 18:04
#160
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Germany leftist
i do you have been expelled, please leave your chair
2020-07-08 18:05
the Iraqi parliament "expelled" us too but we're still in Iraq ;)
2020-07-08 18:06
+1
2020-07-08 18:03
... china is one of they bigest sponsors ofc they wont judge them and its not really they job to do so anyways leaving it is just dumb af if you acually understand what W.H.O is and how it works
2020-07-08 19:17
#165
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World Beard43
+1
2020-07-08 19:21
#185
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Brazil Arishock
+1
2020-07-08 20:10
+1
2020-07-08 20:57
#6
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China Wuhan
WHO and chinese government were behind covid19 plandemic
2020-07-08 00:00
probably it helps china strategically
2020-07-08 14:42
#11
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United States Frotha
Don’t worry Bill Gates gots us
2020-07-08 00:02
Lmao the retard with the first comment twitter.com/Davidbergmann23/status/12805..
2020-07-08 00:03
look at his profile picture ofc he is left winger
2020-07-08 00:04
#22
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North America aTTilla12
A random white guy on twitter states that our nation is screwed? fuck it has to be true.
2020-07-08 00:06
I genuinely wonder why that guy thinks that USA is fucked
2020-07-08 00:13
#76
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United States krawfish23
i see u found a flag
2020-07-08 01:02
what do u mean queen
2020-07-08 01:09
#82
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United States krawfish23
u were bulgaria for a while, and then u had no flag, and now u are the huge country of andorra. Praise you, Professor of the almighty study, Gender Studies
2020-07-08 01:49
probably because their president is currently doing nothing to stop the corona virus in the USA. they got 50k new infections every day, 130k dead people and over three million current infections and trump proceeds to downplay the whole situation so i get where that random twitter user is coming from but the WHO won't save them either
2020-07-08 12:36
It would be great if Trump left twitter and went to a competitor just because it would severely damage twitter's user base and force all of these moronic leftists that want to be first comment on a trump tweet to move there too.
2020-07-08 00:14
He should stick to Facebook
2020-07-08 00:17
nah parler or one of these other small sites that is a competitor not run by leftists.
2020-07-08 00:17
#40
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North America aTTilla12
Twitter is a leftist shithole, it is also cancel culture land were people think that they are morally superior to everyone and believe they have the right to "cancel" another person.
2020-07-08 00:19
#108
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Germany Playboy51
tbh every big social media platform is a leftist shithole, reddit, twitter, facebook, youtube. why? because the majority of the users are leftist
2020-07-08 12:21
looks like a basement dweller lol
2020-07-08 00:31
Yeah, "WHO" fucked up just like the EU has, both will be dead in 10years, UP next is UN the bunch of imbeciles, first WHO then the entire UN.
2020-07-08 00:06
nah, EU needs to stay.
2020-07-08 00:08
for eastern countries to get free moneys from germany btw nt bulgaria
2020-07-08 00:09
nah, Germany will get swallowed by USA, Bulgaria by Russia, a lot of other countries will follow United we stand.
2020-07-08 00:13
lol if we wanted we can build our army like we did in 30s for 3 years we build up the army so much that we rekted half europe in 1 year
2020-07-08 00:15
U rekt half of Europe but then USA rekts you 🌹
2020-07-08 00:15
ussr* they raped us in 3 big battles moscow stalingrad kursk
2020-07-08 00:26
correct, but the world would be a different place if it wasn't for the absolutely ridiculous amount of funding, equipment, tanks, planes, ammo, etc. that the US gave to the USSR and other allied countries the Germans advanced through like 1/2 of the countryside WITH that support... imagine what it would have been like without it
2020-07-08 19:38
How do you disapear your flag? :O
2020-07-08 00:28
HLTV Premium
2020-07-08 00:33
you capitalist pig!
2020-07-08 12:29
germany benefits from eu more then anyone lmao
2020-07-08 00:23
i dont think so
2020-07-08 00:26
the EU is essential for germany's geopolitical protection, otherwise it wouldn't be carrying it
2020-07-08 00:27
You're 100% wrong.
2020-07-08 00:29
+1
2020-07-08 00:29
germany is otherwise exposed and isolated, surrounded by natural rivals, germany would not be so invested in it if it were not the case
2020-07-08 00:29
maybe there is another reason to be in eu?
2020-07-08 00:32
like?
2020-07-08 00:33
strengthen our economy have people within eu more freely
2020-07-08 00:35
exactly
2020-07-08 00:35
>EU is essential for germany's geopolitical protection there is nato you know?
2020-07-08 00:36
nato is nothing without the USA, the more safety nets for peace, the better youtu.be/ME_tV4849NQ?t=444 (7:24) how much of this is true? The EU is very important to many european countries, especially germany
2020-07-08 01:00
alot of germans go to crotia for vacation
2020-07-08 00:35
First of all, Germany doesn't have a serious army because they dont want to...not because they can't , Germans decided to do this social-democracy horrible nonsense and "equality tax the rich redistribute blablabla", if they slashed state expenditure and taxes by half, they could probably afford and produce an army that would match China's. The all-out populist countries in Latin Europe and Eastern Europe decided that they're not gonna develop their countries with the money they take from Germany, NL, Scandinavia and Austria, they rather just increase the welfare checks and run populist campaigns aside from very special exceptions such as Czechia or Estonia, They're not furthering development as they should, Greece. Hungary, Bulgaria and Romania were better and richer per capita countries than Uruguay and Panama 10 years ago...they no longer are today. Spain, France, Italy and Portugal are by far the absolutely most benefited countries in the Union, then Estonia has greatly benefited but has done the right things. The rest should be all burnt to the ground, this was a failure, Germans will have to come to peace with their past and accept that it is okay for them to be proud and somewhat even cocky of their country, it doesn't need to be racial or anything like that, just sheer accomplishments. France will defend the Union as long as the Union keep financing his deranged populism, and that wont be the case for much longer.
2020-07-08 00:46
The less money Germany has to spend on military the better. Germany doesn't need to flaunt it's strength; it shouldn't. The goal of a state should be to ensure it's own stability while improving the quality of life of it's citizens to the greatest degree possible.
2020-07-08 01:29
I would like to see the USA cuts its army expenditure by as much as 50%, it's just not necessary for the security of the state. Germany isn't nearly as naturally secure, but the EU ensurses stability and relative friendlyness in neighboring countries (negating the need for a excessively strong military)
2020-07-08 01:29
Good god.... First of all, the expenditure U.S has on its military is a minority of the total budget despite the fact that this is the only legit function of government, +/- 700Bi military in 2019 , over 4T dollars in welfareism...absolutely repugnant. And did you just really just say that Germany is naturally insecure????????? U.S Borders with Mexico and is right next to cuba. The military expenditure ironically, does indeed need a huge cut, but the rest of the spending in U.S Federal government needs a far bigger cut.
2020-07-08 08:37
Disagree. The goal of a government should be to raise the quality of life of it's citizens, defend them, and defend it's natural beauty. I think bottom line Healthcare should be free, because you should never have to pay upwards of 1k for an ambulance ride... an ambulance that often you won't even have a choice of being in if you're ever unconscious. The USA is vast, linguistically homogeneous, and is bordered by no major powers. Canada is totally dependent on the USA economically. There are hundreds of miles of desert between mexico and the nearest major cities in the USA. Plenty of space to stage a defense, not even considering the sorry state mexico has been in for almost all of its history. Germany's Eastern and Western borders are geographically, totally exposed, with nothing but a few rivers standing between Paris and Cologne. It's right in between two traditional powers, powers that are traditionally hostile to Germany. It is in Germany's best interest to remain apart of the EU, that's one of the reasons why it's leadership has been so vehement on it's expansion and stability. That's why Germany balled out so many of those countries.
2020-07-08 10:44
That is because you are a statist collectivist with very little economic and historic knowledge. Anyone who stands for actual Liberty, Individualism and Private Property (which are basically the core Western Values that no longer are respected) will very easily tell that the biggest losers with the EU have been the Germanic countries. U.S south of the border has an horrendous barbarian society in Mexico and Cuba. Alaska to the west is right in front of Russia. Canada doesn't "depend" on the u.s in the way you mean it, they both benefit from eachother but Canada is now more globalized than U.S. France and UK would never be hostile to Germany today, firstly because both France and UK are developed countries that are extremely abiding of all international boundaries (for better or worse) and also, France and UK's armies have shown that their bellic interests lie far away from the Union. France UK and Israel have been U.S' little sidekicks during all the middle eastern cowboy fiesta in the last 30 years, from the 2010's onwards Germany has taken a far less interventionist stance. Germany bailing out populist broken economies absolutely destroyed those statist societies, you don't much care i can tell, but their politicians have largely dedicated to increasing the deficit spending and just calling any austerity-program fascism, they obviously can't all be bailed out, and the biggest actor in this shitstorm has been France, who is also the 2nd most important country in the EU...what exactly do you think is gonna happen??? France has 81Bi deficit every year and a huge breaking point is about to be reached, they hold a -3% fiscal deficit over GDP (which is literally South American Banana Republic levels of deficit) , French people want more welfare, more taxes for the rich, more free stuff and Macron will have the entire Parliament against him when he tries to make cuts for 100Bi /year....you cant possibly think EU will just keep drowning France in debt forever right?? they're at 2.6Trillions as it is.
2020-07-08 11:02
haha more like germany is paying more for eu then anyone :DDDD but yes we also benefit from it its win win i guess
2020-07-08 21:46
your government wouldnt be paying for it if it wasnt beneficial
2020-07-08 21:47
beneficial yes in terms of militay, prestige, right to be consulted etc but in terms of economy there is no way its beneficial to pulling up countrys which don't work economically like Greece
2020-07-08 22:01
Nah, it has already failed with brexit, just abolish everything, it have gone to shit, all of it. Then we can "reform" it again, creating free trades for all countries within "EU" or hopefully the entire world, as it should be already.
2020-07-08 00:13
What can I say except you're welcome?
2020-07-08 00:15
#SWEXIT
2020-07-08 09:43
i very much hope you will be free of the EU but i doubt that will happen
2020-07-08 00:33
Finally, who is corrupt af
2020-07-08 00:13
+1
2020-07-08 00:29
+9999999
2020-07-08 00:29
w-hy?
2020-07-08 00:23
They'll be back..
2020-07-08 00:42
UN is next
2020-07-08 00:46
hope nato after un xD
2020-07-08 00:50
hopefully not UN is acutally the onlything that keeps peace between china, eu, usa and russia i dont want ww3 :( didnt went good on last trys for germany
2020-07-08 19:23
It is just one more political move by Trump trying to pass the blame for the COVID19 disaster in the US. It is a bad move for everyone, we all need the World to deal the best possible with health issues, part of that is working together and with the US pulling back it is not bad for the US it is bad for all. Biden will have a long list of things to fix once he gets in office. I am sure the WHO membership will be once, another will be getting US back on the right track with climate change initiatives.
2020-07-08 00:51
Lmao, brainwashed spotted
2020-07-08 01:56
How am I wrong?
2020-07-08 03:55
"Biden will have a long list of things to fix once he gets in office." Hopefully you're indeed just baiting
2020-07-08 04:03
Certainly not. 1. I think it is almost a given that Biden is gonna win the election. 2. With all the shit Trump has done there is lots to rectify. Name one good thing Trump has done. And don't say the economy because that is just him taking credit for what Obama build, besides Trump bad handling of COVID19 has messed that up.
2020-07-08 12:01
#97
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Denmark dyinbyran
"Biden will have a long list of things to fix once he gets in office." 😂😂😂😂
2020-07-08 10:48
#117
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Belgium Miiyata
Brainwashed? If you look at Trump there is 1 common strategy hé used throughout all his time as president and before hé was president: shift the blame to another party by various methods(in this case leaving)
2020-07-08 12:52
You are insane
2020-07-08 19:16
Just like he and obama did with the swine flu kkkkkkkkkk
2020-07-08 14:45
Sure, remind us - how many died of the swine flu? Also, who was the president that disbanded a pandemic task force office setup by his predecessor while claiming it did not happen? As well as claiming the past administration had not arranged for a stockpile of ventilators and more?
2020-07-08 18:00
#78
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United States clockworkk
actually a good move
2020-07-08 01:12
Yeah good move dude, let's go against everything that is not american. It seems to be working out.
2020-07-08 12:16
how would you know in budget brazil? you guys are living off chinese stuff since day 1 cos yall too poor to do your own shit here we don't care about chinese shit cos we have our own products wtf banning chinese apps like tiktok is also a good move
2020-07-08 15:28
You can't even place Spain in a map. What do you even know about my country? budget Brazil? lmao We are not Germany but we are far from being a "budget Brazil" You probably think we are in South America but we are europeans :) just so you know low IQ chimp. I personally prefer United States to rule the world but your stupid president is shitting on everyone, especially on Europe (ofc his main focus is China) and that will force us to get along with China, do you understand what that means? that means to just give full power to China which is something I don't want, but It will clearly happen as your clown of a president keeps raising taxes and leaving every international organitzation, absolutely ridicolous.
2020-07-08 15:53
most EU countries are siding with Russia so what are you even on about lmfao noone likes China they're on their own spain is a fucking shithole which nobody likes and tbh even portugal is better which is your direct neighbor
2020-07-08 19:09
calling spain budget brazil hahaha i guess you mean portugal but nt
2020-07-08 19:25
spain = portugal in so many ways wtf
2020-07-08 19:42
xdd you really should stop you actually make americans look stupid
2020-07-08 19:44
you're just trying to defend your little EU shithole where one country couldn't live without the other LMFAO both portugal and spain are shit so why defend them?
2020-07-08 20:04
i didnt defend anyone just stated facts two different country with different languages ,different life quality, different cultures, different history, different eating habits ..etc like i said you have no clue as it seems and still you talking guess you learned from trump ?
2020-07-08 20:21
gosh why am I even arguing with a dude who's still mad about his country not ruling the world and trying to force every EU country to be like them (same currency, same language) get over it man it's not 1945 anymore and germany isn't relevant anymore also NA >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> EU
2020-07-08 20:52
nice playing the 1945 card when you realize how stupid you where :)
2020-07-08 20:53
"i just stated facts" just accept the fact that eu sucks it doesn't matter if we're talking spain, portugal, ukraine or whatever yall just a big something where countries start meaningless wars and steal shit from each other and that's what you call a "union" rofl what a joke
2020-07-08 20:56
i really dont know if you bating or just brainwashed
2020-07-08 20:59
maybe get a bit more involved in politics and see how shit your little Europan Union is
2020-07-08 21:00
i know Europan Union is not a win - win for all countrys especially germany wich is paying way more then we gain from it but acutally its not allways about egoism even countrys like china and russia know that
2020-07-08 21:16
#84
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United States vip3r_k1ng
GOOD
2020-07-08 01:52
#93
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China SwooksarV2
Who?
2020-07-08 08:50
WHO cars
2020-07-08 12:03
#104
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Czech Republic bagin__
Win, W.H.O. backed china in multiple cases
2020-07-08 12:14
Most pathethic president the USA ever had. It is absolutely ridicolous, He has no manners, zero intelligence... and people still praise him... yikes
2020-07-08 12:18
Everything checks out.
2020-07-08 12:31
North American wannabe
2020-07-08 12:34
????? your iq checks your flag out.
2020-07-08 12:53
Nt juanme
2020-07-08 13:01
No...Donald Trump is not the worst president of all time in the history of the U.S . And if you knew anything at all about what's been going on in Spainiard politics since 2010 you'd be destroying that guy right now, they're literally a fucking Argentinian Circus with steroids, they're drooling to become Argentina of Europe , it's perverse, horrible...but hilarious. Some of their most relevant congresspeople are legit discussing if Private Property = Fascism or not.
2020-07-08 13:03
He is a clown, what does Spain has to do with trump anyway?
2020-07-08 13:07
That these Europeans who really love to act as if U.S had the most clownish politics in the entire planet are just taking advantage of the fact that U.S Americans have 0 clue of what goes on in their countries, U.S even with AOC, Trump, Biden, Bernie and characters like John Bolton is STILL a much more serious and civilized political enviroment between the elites than...at the very least, the entire Latin World, i would also add Greece and Turkey to that. Dude the congress of Argentina, Spain, France, Brasil and Chile are literal ghetto highschool meetings, when you see a guy with a Spain, France, Italy or any Latin American flag say stuff like that, know that he's full of shit.
2020-07-08 13:12
OK how does that make trump less of a clown though?
2020-07-08 13:16
Trump is less of a clown than 80% of OUR political leaders, yes. Trump is much more of a clown than the average Swedish, Danish or Japanese polician of course (though i dont think this is necessarily good). You're not gonna pull a gotcha on me my friend.
2020-07-08 13:17
You are talking non sense, when have we discussed here if private property is fascism? hahahahahaha you are an extreme right winged person I get It. Most of the argentinians talk shit all day about everything and especially against us for some odd reason and the funny thing is that we are surely not an example of how to do things properly, but life is good here, unlike in your country buddy. That being said I do NOT hate the United States, in fact I love their country but I still think Trump is a clown and not worthy of being the president of the dominant nation.
2020-07-08 13:43
????????? youtube.com/watch?v=EXN3DALmDHo This is your "social rights" minister. Most Argentinians love big government, as the 2019 elections proved, they're much more like you than you seem to be willing to admit. "life is good here" compared to???? Not compared to the U.S , South Korea, Hong Kong or Singapore, you get paid less and supplies are more expensive. Your congress is a joke, i've seen a bunch of videos of the clowns you've elected as representatives and i have no idea how can you act in such an elitist manner, are you even aware of what goes on in your congress??? What your leaders have stated in the past???? "Trump is a clown and not worthy of being the president of the dominant nation" Disagree, Trump is a clown and most U.S Americans are terribly dumb, primitive, basic and banal people...he's the perfect guy to represent them, politicians shouldn't be idealized, they're supposed to just be servants, not loyalty.
2020-07-08 13:53
he is i bet he didnt never past 1 day without publicly lying about something
2020-07-08 19:33
Really??? Trump is worse than Bush son??? come on boys....at least try.
2020-07-08 19:40
i think so tbh he fucked us economy he fucked us relationships he fucked nuclear deal(most stupid thing ever he had no proof that they broke it he just assumed it ... and now a country like iran can freely build nuclear weapons) he fucked trade agreements wich where acutally very well thought out he didnt escalate BLM conflicts he even incite them he keeps blaming his misstakes on people and organizations wich obviously have nothing to say.. he does he made even trust worthy us news look like fake news with his twitter lies --- etc and he worste part of all is that are people that acutally worship him like wtffff???
2020-07-08 20:10
No he didn't .-. wtf??? The economy of the U.S broke apart when the fed was created and it went to shit when they got off the gold pattern in the 70's. Relationships are largely the same. Everything else you said is just cringeworthy leftist npc talking which you clearly haven't thought through and havent self-challenged on, if you truly believe that Trump is worse than FDR, Woodrow Wilson or any Bush then you have no clue what you're talking about, you clearly haven't looked at what these people have done and you are not interested in having a serious exchange about what their elites have done-are doing , you are just a child.
2020-07-08 20:35
i dont live in the past and acutally obama had nothing of his dramas or Scandal problems he didnt need to blame others like turmp does but it seems as for this trump worshipers its all just fake news
2020-07-08 20:46
"obama had nothing of his dramas or Scandal problems" How old are you actually?
2020-07-08 20:54
wierd that its kinda a common thing for trump supportes to attack people with "just a child.", "How old are you actually?", "leftish" etc instead of talking about facts people posted
2020-07-08 20:58
I am not a Trump supporter at all, in fact im largely against democracy and fully anarchist. You haven't posted any facts, and as i read you i can tell you're a very innocent and good-hearther young one, i just wish you could question the EVIL nonsense that they put into your head in your horrendous public school grid. You're German right? READ HAYEK, Read Carl Menger, everything will make much more sense. Trump is just not anywhere near the levels of fucked up shit, when you learn U.S history (which is relatively easy to be fair) you realize how borderline satanic their elites have been from the 20th century onwards.
2020-07-08 21:03
+1 so true blaming it on who that he failed as an President ... WHO didnt simply they job and its acutally not they job to blame someone for an flu
2020-07-08 19:32
China locked down Wuhan in January "just a flu","over-react","inhumane" Now blame WHO omegalul
2020-07-08 12:41
Doesnt matter if they locked down or not, the virus was already spreading, and the commies supressed every information about it because they want to look "Powerful" what a bunch of children.
2020-07-08 14:47
#119
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Belgium Miiyata
I like how all you mongols are falling for trumps dividing and making anything non american a sort of opposition. China did not invent or brought the virus to the world on purpose. There are evidences the virus already appeared in places outside China before wuhan outbreak. China also warned the world, yet nobody listened. Now Trump is trying to shift blame on WHO and China so the massive, badly handled, outbreak in USA isn't looking like americans' own fault. Trump is a lying maniac with serious issues, just check out his own niece's book.
2020-07-08 12:59
Although I agree, nt fakeflagger
2020-07-08 13:00
#124
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Belgium Miiyata
Not fakeflagging, even if China didn't fuck up at start the virus was going to come and hit us. Spanish sewers alrdy had corona, france alrdy had a corona case in november.
2020-07-08 13:06
You know analysing sewer samples is not the most credible method for something like this. Plus propably 10-20% of the EU and the USA pop already has had coronga antibodies so it definitely started way before January.
2020-07-08 13:11
trump is the reason for usa but for europe WHO has to be questioned as they didnt say jackshit
2020-07-08 13:12
#129
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Belgium Miiyata
They did but the virus was already spreading. Thing is, instead of blaming and pointing fingers for own political agenda why not work all together and bring an end to his virus?
2020-07-08 13:16
yeah you are right that he did that for his policies but most of the people here agreeing are not american and supporting him in this because who could have done so much more like at least closing airports
2020-07-08 14:13
#138
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Belgium Miiyata
But closing airports is not in power of WHO. They only give recommendations + informations in combination with guidelines.
2020-07-08 14:19
if they recommended that probably every country would have listened(apart from usa maybe lol),that is why im cutting the middleman and say that they could have closed airports
2020-07-08 14:59
china warned very late. also it takes some time until the countries enforce NPIs...
2020-07-08 20:12
"China did not invent or brought the virus to the world on purpose. There are evidences the virus already appeared in places outside China before wuhan outbreak." False. "China also warned the world, yet nobody listened." True. "Now Trump is trying to shift blame on WHO and China so the massive, badly handled, outbreak in USA isn't looking like americans' own fault." False. U.S isn't a centralized shithole where Washington decides what is done in the +9.000.000 KM2 for the +330.000.000 citizens, Come on Miiyi .... i know you have the capital-dictatorial mindset and i can totally understand why, but don't you think it'd be at least very concerning if the federal level just dictated how to react??? +The worst spot in U.S for Corona was NYC ... im not sure what you think they did there, but they enforced very tough quarintine from the beginning. To be quite frank looking at the data, South Carolina, Wyoming and Idaho...the more lax states, seemed to have done just fine. Sweden has the freest reaction to corona in the world yet your country, spain, UK and Italy have higher death rates. Sweden still hasn't gone martial law quarintine at all and i dont think they will. You were wrong, the scientists that you chose to believe were wrong, and the scientists that you chose to ignore were right and you should admit it now because you'll eventually admit it 30 years from now.
2020-07-08 13:20
#137
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Belgium Miiyata
I meant more on Trump's own political agenda level, not about results of corona stats there. About results, then a lot of countries handled it badly not only USA. Talking about results is pointless as it has too many variables. For example Sweden: 8mil population in a territory as big as france, belgium and netherlands combined. Yet when you look only in stockholm, the death ratio is just the same. I mean, look at Germany's death ratio with lockdown... Their death ratio is low af Belgium? High, but that's nothing to do with lockdown/free/population density. Japan? Have to use masks yet there have been few regions on a lockdown when it spread. Both you and i know that trump is doing all this fingerpointing and dumbfuckery to win his next presidential election. But any leader of a country using these methods is a liability to every country and the world. And i'm basing my source on an english oxford based scientist. Don't know if he is wrong or right, but how are you so sure who's right?
2020-07-08 14:17
By ratio i assume you're talking about the rate at which it spreads? because adjusting the deaths per capita are precisely what is done to compare different countries of different sizes, and multiple anti-lockdown countries including sweden come out pretty good. In EU as i guess this is the one you care about the most: Sweden has 51K deaths of Covid per 539 citizens and Netherlands has 358 , these are the most lax countries in this covid enviroment. Now the countries pro lockdown: Belgium : 843 UK : 654 Spain : 607 Italy : 577 France : 459 This doesn't mean there are winners and losers, everybody loses and having to kiss our grannies a goodbye before we could have expected is devastating this i know very well, but to pander to panic and hatred as the corporate press elites of Europe and N.A have is such a terribly idea, specially when the supposedly evil anti-lockdowners genocidal maniacs have shown to have better results than the Pro-Lockdown alternatives. "to win his next presidential election" Obviously, U.S has been a populist shithole for over 100 years now, Trump is just the purest and most honest representation of it. worldometers.info/coronavirus/ "Don't know if he is wrong or right, but how are you so sure who's right?" Here's a couple foundational problems, first you must understand that there is no such thing as consensus in science for literally...+90% of the issues they take on, it really is just which school convinces you the most and why, i've heard the arguments of the scientists who advocate for powerful lockdowns and they seemed rather arbitrary, these ones have convinced me more: youtube.com/watch?v=59JwT08mhFI thestreet.com/etffocus/market-intelligen.. Also, if you agree with me with the premise that power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely, you shouldn't feel guilty or afraid of having just a tad bit of scepticism towards the scientific-academic elites, this doesnt make you a religious zealot conservative, this doesnt make you an anti-vaccer , this doesn't make you a conspiracy theorist...this is what such elites want you to think, to be afraid of not even dissent..just questioning, doubt. My friend, the WHO has literally practically taken a 180 degree turn on everything related to Corona in the year 2020, not to mention their resilience against recognizing Taiwan, if they are not living proof of "Power corrupts and absolute power corrupts absolutely" then i dont know what is.
2020-07-08 14:38
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Belgium Miiyata
Wait you came up with a whole statistic about the spread of corona? We are misunderstanding each other then. To be blunt, i don't know why you are even derailing my initial point to corona spreading stats or corruption in power. When i said scientist, i meant this for example of Jefferson: expressandstar.com/news/uk-news/2020/07/.. Whether WHO is corrupted or not is a debate left for another topic, here i am talking about Trump and his methods. And yes, absolutely agreed. When there is power there is corruption. Just a little sidenote to your post #139: I said above already, look at stockholm only if you use Sweden. It's not fair to use a small populated country with that big of a territory. Also, Belgium? Don't use this as example. It's a different situation here than in rest of EU which i won't be bothered to explain as it's a long story.
2020-07-08 14:54
worldometers.info/coronavirus/ I didn't come up with anything this website compiles the cases, deaths, and calculates the Deaths by Covid per 1.000.000 inhabitants of each country, this is the best method to properly assess the virus lethality. You can see that Sweden has shown better results than Spain Italy and UK if you click in the row that says "deaths/1M pop" , dont want to include Belgium? fair enough im sure you boys must be a special case, you are a very special country indeed, but SE still shows better results than Italy Spain and UK and NL shows better results than all of these +U.S and France as far as lethality goes, which is the main issue here. This is what i've concluded: Sweden and Nederland never entered lockdown, France Italy Spain and UK have very serious lockdowns, Sweden and Netherlands still have less deaths adjusting per population than all of these countries, therefore, this proves that going the Lax route is NOT "genocidal" as U.S American media suggested, doesn't mean its right or good, it just means that it isn't the absolute evil that all the elites suggested. As far as my links go, having Fauci admit at one point that it's time to start reopenig + ABC's interview to Doctor Daniel Erickson just convinced me that a horrible lockdown such as the one currently being enforced in my country is NOT the right way nor "inherently virtuous".
2020-07-08 15:02
WH OMEGALUL
2020-07-08 13:02
UsA have 0 proofs vs Chine, Trump didn't know about Italy? He did mistake and he find "enemy" for hate.
2020-07-08 15:13
ok who did they leave?
2020-07-08 15:14
They are the one with most cases and that number is still increasing while the entire world is recovering...
2020-07-08 15:55
BuT iTs cHiNaS aNd WHOs fAuLt!!!1!!1!1!!
2020-07-08 20:09
what an idiot
2020-07-08 15:58
#157
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Panama Bill_Bait
who is corrupt
2020-07-08 18:01
I don't know. Who is corrupt?
2020-07-08 21:00
#168
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World Beard43
The WHO is severely corrupt, good move.
2020-07-08 19:26
#169
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Sweden flippig
trump is a clown
2020-07-08 19:30
#189
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United States Amerika!
??? The who is a fucking joke bro
2020-07-08 20:37
trump is usually a clown but this is a good move. fuck WHO and their stupid lies
2020-07-08 19:37
good move 200 IQ
2020-07-08 19:47
#180
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Finland ToxicDUD
Disban WHO Re-establish it without giving China power Ez
2020-07-08 19:53
#184
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Turkey Rhenie
+111111111 disband pls
2020-07-08 20:10
el chapo hes my friend free big meech and guzman
2020-07-08 21:33
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