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Finnish in Duolingo
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Canada Maple_Baron 
2020-07-08 04:04
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For starters, Duolingo is not very good And besides, who wants to learn fucking 15 noun cases? Not me, that's for sure.
2020-07-08 04:10
Well, I mean, it's interesting, but 15 cases is just too much. You could probably learn like 3 other languages in the time that it would take you to just learn how to introduce yourself in Finnish.
2020-07-08 04:12
I though Latin was bad, it only has 7.
2020-07-08 04:53
#34
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Hungary Sklytsk
Hungarian has like 15-34 noun cases. We can't even keep up with counting them
2020-07-08 12:58
wtf
2020-07-09 01:23
#151
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Finland hermion
Well hungarian and finnish are relative languages.
2020-07-09 22:35
#67
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Finland tonyi
And you're never going to use at least 10 of them. And no one speaks formally anyway.
2020-07-08 23:14
That's an another very off-putting aspect to learning Finnish. Imo if I can't speak formally in a language, I don't feel like I'm competant and with Finnish the difference between the formal and colloquial languages is extreme, at least from what I hear
2020-07-09 22:29
#57
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Netherlands HetIsPatat
I'm on a 65 days streak 🔥😎
2020-07-08 22:45
Literally anyone who has or has attempted to study languages in the past knows that duolingo is a meme.
2020-07-08 22:50
it actually helped me learn french, for the entirety of my life I thought Duolingo was good, but more and more people on hltv are saying that Duolingo is a joke, perhaps I was wrong for the whole time xD
2020-07-08 23:15
I mean, for languages with simple grammar it's not unusable, but if you're trying to learn Russian, Arabic or especially Mandarin for example, yeah... You're wasting your time.
2020-07-08 23:26
What about Swedish in duolinguo? I'm thinking of learning it.
2020-07-09 00:17
Look up "Days of French 'n' Swedish" He tried to do that exactly
2020-07-09 00:32
Mandarin actually has pretty simple grammar, but duolingo would not be good for learning it for other reasons.
2020-07-09 02:05
I didn't mean that Mandarin was difficult due to the grammar, it's difficult due to the pronounciation (tones) and the writing system. Like how are you supposed to learn that through duolingo?
2020-07-09 02:34
Depends on the course and what you expect from duolingo. It obviously won't teach you a language perfectly but it can be a fun way to learn languages to an extend
2020-07-08 23:38
quite possibly one of the most useless languages in the world
2020-07-08 04:13
Less useless than Swedish and more interesting for sure. Swedish sounds like beta Dutch.
2020-07-08 04:15
Swedish is undoubtedly better to learn than Finnish, mainly because it's part of the germanic language family. If you speak fluent Swedish you could quite easily understand and communicate in Norwegian, Danish, as well as a lot of words and simple sentences in German and Dutch etc. I'm fluent in Norwegian, Swedish and English all of which are germanic languages and thus I can understand a lot of german sentences. Suomi language on the other hand is really extremely useless, it is not part of the germanic family tree NOR the slavic one. It is uralic and doesn't connect to a lot of languages, just some of the Baltics and perhaps a few places in Russia.
2020-07-08 04:22
...Or you can just learn German and call it quits.
2020-07-08 04:23
Obviously, but any germanic language, or any slavic language, or any romance language are gonna be better to learn than Finnish. Unless you are an immigrant in Finland or something
2020-07-08 04:31
Lmao Swedes andGermans THEMSELVES don't care about their languages. If you wish to live in either country, just learn Arabic
2020-07-08 22:21
You're honestly just utterly retarded mate!
2020-07-08 22:46
Ok ahmet
2020-07-08 22:50
its ironic since most ahmeds are probably more educated than you
2020-07-08 22:50
Lmao Swedish delusions Ahmeds from literal warzones are more educated than me....
2020-07-08 22:58
definitely, show your flag then you little degenerate dog
2020-07-08 22:58
Your flag isn't even fucking Sweden
2020-07-08 23:33
No and that shows that he is more intelligent because he can defend another country from retarded arguments and remarks. You’re dumb, the end.
2020-07-14 12:48
The only language that's really even remotely intelligible for Finns is Estonian, and even then that's really pushing it - the similarities aren't as close as those in Swedish and Norwegian, for example. As I said above, while I like our language, it's only worthwhile to bother learning it if you plan on moving here.
2020-07-08 22:26
Why would someone move to Finland when everyone around there seems to be so hateful?
2020-07-09 00:16
Exactly for that reason, you won't have to worry about stabbings and globalist control
2020-07-09 02:04
True. We're very isolationist - globalism will never take root here, thankfully.
2020-07-09 22:29
only champions know finnish
2020-07-08 04:21
#112
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Europe Niko0
No. Finnish swearwords are like curses if pronounced correctly. Doesnt matter if you are 140cm 40kg boy, but if you yell "perrrrrrrrkele" to your enemy, he will run away in fear, while shitting his pants.
2020-07-09 02:11
#141
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Belgium lil_vodka
KEKW expected from norway
2020-07-09 22:24
Seriously, how the fuck do you speak a language with 15 cases? 4 is difficult enough (German), 6 is just insane (Russian) and 15 must be like impossible
2020-07-08 04:19
#22
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Finland siloquez
Ez mode.
2020-07-08 04:26
yeah, its pretty hard along with estonian, but who cares if it hard or not if it sounds awful
2020-07-08 13:07
#106
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Finland siloquez
It's same as "for" "from" "to" "into" etc, but instead they are merged with the word (if I understood correctly about the problem. Didn't read the whole thread). But I've said it earlier too; In Finnish if you learn the alphabetic, it will be so easy, since every letter (there are couple veeeeeeeeeeeeeeeery minor exceptions) is pronounced exactly the same way every time. Not like "enough" "gary", you know, that G can be "anything". In Finnish it can sound only one way.
2020-07-09 01:55
finnish is hard cuz hasnt related words
2020-07-09 22:55
Multiple Finnish words have a (old) Russian root. Some also come from Swedish.
2020-07-10 14:36
#193
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Finland siloquez
Most of Finnish loan words are from Sweden, Germany and Russian in that order tho... But many ancient words are quite different. But I'd like to believe they have ancient roots to the same words as many others. German and Finnish has many exactly the same words :3
2020-07-10 21:49
but anyway finnish for the most part consists of their words cuz finnish if uralic language
2020-07-14 10:44
It's simple. You just don't use prepositions and the meaning migrates to the word ending.
2020-07-08 13:07
what does language having 15 cases actually mean?
2020-07-08 22:24
2020-07-08 22:28
cheers bro
2020-07-08 22:32
Just talk bruh
2020-07-08 22:31
#113
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Europe Niko0
It really isnt that hard to learn. Most of the cases are not so frequently used. And just speak the words as they are written. If you learn to pronounce alphabet in finnish, you are halfway ready. It took like 3-5months for me to learn finnish after i moved there. (half-finnish)
2020-07-09 02:14
Finnish cases are pretty easy and logical tho, it wont be that hard to learn the cases
2020-07-09 15:38
I am trying to learn Russian from Duolingo and it's going about as well as Liquid in the Major
2020-07-08 04:55
Forget forsaken for a moment and just imagine you were were NAF from Liquid. You've got to do whatever it takes to get your teammates over!
2020-07-08 07:03
Duolingo sucks, that's why. The only use you can get out of duolingo is from Tinycards.
2020-07-08 22:22
Also, Russian is a very difficult language, even for native speakers. The first months or so will not be kind by any means.
2020-07-08 22:28
Been doing Russian for the past 2 weeks (just started) you have any tips? On Duolingo btw gyazo.com/764532c70bb8cebab2389b0f5eb227..
2020-07-08 22:34
Well, I don't think that I could give you many tips specifically for Russian aside from trying not to get too caught up with the noun cases, at least in the beginning, but as for some more general tips... Well, for one, duolingo is a gimmick, it's too basic to be a primary language resource. I wouldn't know what resources are considered best for learning Russian and there is of course a degree of personal preference, though I'd imagine that getting yourself a starter book such as those from the "Teach yourself: Complete" series could be an idea, perhaps. Some other starters may be resources like the ones provided by Pimsleur or Michel Thomas.
2020-07-08 23:11
Alright, I am steadily progressing and will try to complete the whole of the Duolingo course, maybe at least I will be used to some of the phrases and typical words. Cheers for the references!
2020-07-08 23:26
Udachi
2020-07-09 18:08
Once you get to an intermediate level, all it takes to get to complete fluency is one bottle of vodka
2020-07-09 22:31
#33
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Finland Goble81
Why learn Finnish? Because then you can join the alpha Elves gang, no one else but few Finns and Elves from the middle earth speak Finnish. Let's ask from the all mighty professor of linguistic and author J.R.R. Tolkien what he thinks. The sound of Finnish especially attracted Tolkien. Because of dominating vowels and soft consonants this language sounds like music. Quote from J.R.R. Tolkien: "There is melody even in common, everyday sentences when no poetry is intended. Finnish flows smoothly, graciously, reminding of the music of water. It was very difficult to make Finnish sound more beautiful because beauty is its default quality". middleearthreflections.com/2018/09/04/in.. You just need a little bit of Finnish "sisu" to learn Finnish. The word SISU is a good place to start learning Finnish (if you get the mental level of that word). en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sisu /Closed because why ask "experts" of HLTV when Tolkien has already answered the question.
2020-07-08 13:03
My friend said he's like top 3 on some leaderboard on that lol
2020-07-08 12:59
#142
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Belgium lil_vodka
flag checks out
2020-07-09 22:25
that's the point he's retarded ofc he wouldn't be top 3 if he didn't speak it fluently already
2020-07-09 22:40
#176
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Finland Faifainei
dude be like smurfing in silver with newbs while being global elite
2020-07-09 23:26
yeah but he's actually silver 1 lmao, he just got his rank today :D
2020-07-09 23:29
i hate the idea that someone non finnish would try to learn our language, sign a petition to delete this course.
2020-07-08 13:02
#37
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Finland Goble81
Why? On contrast you should take your hat off and salute the brave one.
2020-07-08 13:06
they will never understand spoken finnish anyways so i guess it doesnt matter
2020-07-08 13:07
WDYM? I've played with finnish friends for like 8 years or something and understand every call and basic conversation.
2020-07-09 00:02
the finnish you can learn from a book is like another language to the one spoken casually in everyday life
2020-07-09 01:18
#107
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Finland siloquez
I've cousin who can and there are many others who can too. But if I was british or smth I'd never learn Finnish :D. But it's the best language in the worlld tho.
2020-07-09 01:57
You don't want mere mortals trying to learn the language of the gods?
2020-07-08 22:23
+1
2020-07-09 01:21
How finnish do you have to be?
2020-07-08 23:41
Me too
2020-07-09 15:36
Don't learn this useless dead in 20 years language
2020-07-08 22:23
How come? Swedish becoming more popular?
2020-07-08 23:37
english rather and if you live here I mean yes then go for it but its hard to learn finnish and you are not going to use it mostly before you have like mastered it :D because spoken finnish can differ from the one you learn so much sometimes
2020-07-09 11:12
Yeah I don't think i'm gonna learn it, sounds cool in songs tho.
2020-07-09 19:38
Swedish is gonna die out in 5 years and everyone will just speak Arabic in Sweden lmao
2020-07-09 22:32
vittu haistaa paskan
2020-07-08 22:31
pussy smells the shit
2020-07-08 22:32
lmaooo
2020-07-08 22:43
Hahaha
2020-07-08 23:30
lol
2020-07-09 22:50
all the other nordic countryes > finland
2020-07-08 22:38
Sweden trash.
2020-07-08 23:33
argentina>brazil
2020-07-08 23:47
argentina economy is almost worst than venezuela LMAO
2020-07-09 00:56
#88
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Finland Grograman
nice bait
2020-07-08 23:51
not a bait just a fack norway > all
2020-07-09 00:57
Finlandia > all the other nordic countries
2020-07-09 15:33
norway have the best hores :))
2020-07-09 22:19
don't try, even i failed finnish classes in school cus it's too hard
2020-07-08 22:52
#143
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Belgium lil_vodka
KEKW
2020-07-09 22:27
rly not joking xD check this shit, lmao en.wiktionary.org/wiki/Appendix:Finnish_..
2020-07-09 23:17
Far from being useful if you don't plan on moving to Finland
2020-07-08 23:18
ye, maybe some might try it just for fun. not really practical aspects but if you are moving, going there.
2020-07-10 10:27
good luck everyone who start to learn finnish
2020-07-08 23:22
don't bother with duolingo pls
2020-07-08 23:27
#185
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Russia win73ry
why tho
2020-07-10 10:13
Fucking finally. Aight let's try it out.
2020-07-08 23:32
#82
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Lebanon Dogman69
Finnish is like Estonian language with cancer
2020-07-08 23:39
#85
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Finland Etmos
There's no point in learning finnish.
2020-07-08 23:42
#89
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Finland Grograman
While its very useless worldwide, the same time its one of the most unique, difficult and interesting (many say beautiful too) language in the world. But 60 iq muslim hltv user shouldnt even try. Quote from J.R.R. Tolkien: "There is melody even in common, everyday sentences when no poetry is intended. Finnish flows smoothly, graciously, reminding of the music of water. It was very difficult to make Finnish sound more beautiful because beauty is its default quality".
2020-07-08 23:56
I am extremely interested in Finland and would like to move there someday but the language is such a drawback for being so extremely difficult... what a shame.
2020-07-09 00:00
#121
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Finland Palomies
You don't have to learn all the cases. Even if you just blurt out the words in some order, a native can probably string together what you are saying. Best (only?) way to learn Finnish is to speak and listen to it.
2020-07-09 11:17
Yeah but everyone in Finland seems to be so hateful towards outsiders, specially non-whites (which I am).
2020-07-09 14:49
#134
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Finland Palomies
HLTV is full of edgy 15 year olds, so don't make your judgement based on them. We also don't mind joking about skin color/ethnicity, whereas most of the world has become all touchy-feely lately. In the end they're jokes. In short, we have an extensive welfare state, and some people see refugees as a burden to that system. There is also a narrative that the only reason we are taking refugees is actually a sinister plan to import low-income workers. Most of the racists aim their hatred towards these refugees. If you come to study/work, you're welcomed by everyone, excluding the absolute bigots of course.
2020-07-09 17:49
I dream about Finland but the language is such a pain... I have some friends living in Finland and they say it is great, except the weather most of the time. I wish I could experience this country permanently, to enjoy being actually safe away from this shithole I live and be in a good place where I can live in peace without much worry.
2020-07-09 17:53
#136
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Finland Palomies
English will work just fine, but landing a job will require you to cut some options out. A tech job is totally landable with just English. Also, there could be options where you could utilize your native language. But I guess that's always the case when you switch countries. If you plan on studying in the university, you can apply for Finnish universities' programs from abroad. I've studied with people from SEA, Middle East and Africa, who all applied from their home countries. So good luck with that, and bear in mind we're not the only option. Other Nordics are awesome too!
2020-07-09 18:02
Thanks for this and for being kind, unlike 99% of Finnish users on this website who seem to have their mind stuck in 1620 with their blatant hatred and backwards mentality.
2020-07-09 18:04
Wtf is this hatred towards Finnish users? The only awful user who even used the Finnish flag was trashsports, who has been banned a long time ago and wasn't even Finnish
2020-07-09 22:39
First time ever I see a good interaction with a Finnish user on HLTV. I'm glad I found cool Finns in 1.6 who were very kind.
2020-07-09 22:40
Idk imo pretty much all Finns are chill, aside from Snakellu fanboys
2020-07-09 22:41
I see Finns here on HLTV acting as the most hateful people I've seen in my life along with Polaks. Difference being that Finland is a developed, advanced country and Poland is extremely backwards with their religitard mind, so that's kinda expected. I just wish Finns would portray what their country exhales, beauty. But all I see here on HLTV is the opposite of that. I wish I knew where such hatred comes from when we talk about Finns on HLTV.
2020-07-09 22:50
Its hltv --__--
2020-07-09 22:48
Name me at least 3 users
2020-07-09 23:11
I don't know dude, how would I remember the name of Finnish users I've seen being extremely toxic and hateful? lol My memory is beyond shit, but I can remember the names of some HLTV users I see around a lot in random threads.
2020-07-09 23:13
I have to kind of agree with you, but to be fair, "everyone" seems to be douchebag on hltv. Guess it has something to do with the nature of the site?
2020-07-14 11:10
Maybe. I just hope Finns are really not what they portray to be here in real life. The Finns I have added on Steam are very good dudes.
2020-07-14 12:43
#93
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Lebanon Dogman69
#82
2020-07-09 00:05
Ok have fun spending 10 years learning it.
2020-07-08 23:59
#95
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Europe Vallon4
Bit unrelated, but how difficult is Jerman language to learn?
2020-07-09 00:16
one of the easiest. if you can learn english you can deutsch as well.
2020-07-09 01:24
The grammar is on the harder side and the huge amount of irregularities are annoying to learn, but you get a lot for free if you know english, which makes it easy for those. Quite hard to learn otherwise, though.
2020-07-09 02:08
I basically understand 90% from german netflix series just from knowing swedish
2020-07-09 15:26
Yes, because vocabulary is pretty much all you need for that, which is given to you for free since you are able to speak english and swedish.
2020-07-09 15:58
nominatiivi genetiivi inessiivi elatiivi illatiivi adessiivi ablatiivi allatiivi essiivi komitatiivi partitiivi shit i only know 11 cases out of 15 :( I think you can quite fluently speak in finnish without knowing them all. Pretty special cases some.
2020-07-09 15:17
Tfw a native speaker struggles to name even 2/3rds of the cases in their language
2020-07-09 22:33
#178
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Finland Faifainei
it is more the fact that the names are so hard to remember and you dont never ever need them outside of that one test in school where you learn them for the test and forget the following week.
2020-07-09 23:32
Yes and mostly you don't need to even know the details of the grammar, when it just "sounds right". This is more like machine learning approach to learning. You don't even know the details but data you have gained so far says what is right.
2020-07-10 10:22
#175
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Finland t0ki
Did you actually learn these? I could probably name only like 2 or 3 of these
2020-07-09 23:22
I remembered the jingle "mikä minkä missä mistä mihin millä miltä mille" which are the first ones and then couple outside that (after hard thinking).
2020-07-10 10:19
jamppi: fake it till you make it
2020-07-09 17:02
ypsi klapsi kyse
2020-07-09 22:36
#163
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Sweden Fizze
I'm learning russian so I'm fine
2020-07-09 22:44
congratz i have been waited this for a long time
2020-07-09 22:47
i'm learning finnish too :)
2020-07-09 23:00
Why would any1 request Finnish, lol.
2020-07-09 23:32
Finnish most useless and hardest language :D why would anyone want to even try to learn it?
2020-07-10 03:13
#184
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Finland Jodecast
To prove u big brain alpha :)
2020-07-10 10:11
FINNALy!
2020-07-10 10:35
#191
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Sweden TomPony
ALL YOU NEED TO KNOW IS AS FOLLOWS; HALUATKO SINÄ RINTAMAITOA?
2020-07-10 11:58
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