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Who could beat BIG ?
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United States jack4000 
BIG destroyed everyone in the last two tournaments and I dont know who could stop them after the break. Not even Vitality and G2 on their best days could beat them. They will have an even worse chance if cs goes back to lan. Maybe Astralis if they go back to their normal five? I think not though as the cs BIG played in the last month was imo better than Astralis cs ever was. Not only does BIG have better tactics than every EU team but also better firepower. I do think Liquid (once they come back) and EG could have a chance with their superior firepower but sadly they are stuck in NA trashing brazillian and australian noobs.
2020-07-08 19:42
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Germany Xirif
Didn‘t OG beat them?
2020-07-08 19:44
OG got rekt 2nd match after BIG noticed that they were cheating online as well.
2020-07-08 20:13
imagine making this thread when they havent proved that they are this good on LAN a single time
2020-07-08 19:44
T1-Lan* They were dominant on T2-Lan
2020-07-08 19:46
#13
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United States JoshDAA
Wasnt even t-2 lan, it was t3 lan
2020-07-08 19:46
Maybe true considering the best teams were Heroic and VP.
2020-07-08 19:50
Also pretty good form Renegades and Cloud9
2020-07-09 19:41
#4
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Poland Amirek
AVEZ 2-0 BIG
2020-07-08 19:45
#36
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Europe cyes
KEKKKKKKKK
2020-07-08 20:02
#40
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Poland Amirek
2020-07-08 20:04
#44
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Europe cyes
KKK didnt know this match. woww
2020-07-08 20:07
ye cause u r glory hunter fan men)?
2020-07-08 22:11
Meh.. onliners
2020-07-08 22:07
#74
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Poland Amirek
oh the irony
2020-07-08 22:10
*2-1 BIG was fresh built nothing special
2020-07-10 11:32
Imo worse teams like sprout, nemiga, etc.
2020-07-08 19:45
BIG is the best team in the world and probably best team of all time. Only prime Astralis could beat BIG with luck.
2020-07-08 19:45
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Russia reguix
Lulw flag checks out
2020-07-08 20:07
Ahahah good one
2020-07-08 20:22
#95
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India c0nsc10us
You should consider yourself lucky for how deluded and ignorant you are. Must be a very happy place, your make believe world.
2020-07-09 17:15
Better deluded and happy than malding over some thread someone made to trigger you m8
2020-07-09 18:01
#111
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India c0nsc10us
I agree with the sentiment. Just not with the implication.
2020-07-09 18:19
#131
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France daniel19
8/8
2020-07-10 09:53
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United States JeyyR
OpTic India
2020-07-08 19:45
we have a budget flusha ourselves you know xD
2020-07-08 19:48
forsaken has always been and will always be the god of counterstrike
2020-07-08 20:31
yes mens... He prob got beaten up by some Indians for what he did for our reputation tho XD
2020-07-08 21:33
The dude is 20kg he would be fucking dead if jumped by a highschooler lmao
2020-07-10 11:53
#96
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India c0nsc10us
Don't insult flusha, he's the senor
2020-07-09 17:16
i know bro sry(((
2020-07-09 22:05
EZ 4 Lukas "yb" Gröning
2020-07-10 11:46
Any top 10 team can be any team in the top 10
2020-07-08 19:45
explains the superior winrate of BIG against top 10 teams Mr 200 IQ
2020-07-08 19:46
My point was the top of the rankings are very open. I doubt big will beat top teams with as much ease once we reach lan
2020-07-08 19:49
You are maybe right. BIG probably won't replicate their form on LAN BUT your thesis is still wrong. BIG's winrate indicates that they are (at least in this online era) an exception to the rule. They + maybe Vitality are the only consistent teams !AT THE MOMENT! [["Any top 10 team can beat any team in the top 10", EXCEPT FOR BIG + maybe Vitality.]]
2020-07-08 19:55
I would still think that faze/Astralis/Furia/Fnatic would have a decent chance vs big or vitality Cologne will be a big indicator to who the best teams actually are
2020-07-08 20:03
+1 all of these teams could beat BIG on a good day but it would have to be something like a close 2-1. Right now BIG are the best in form team, lets see how long they can stay at the top. cologne might be online too sadly
2020-07-09 15:31
I think liquid faze or eg could 2-0 if all the individuals showed up
2020-07-09 15:37
thats just my opinion but i dont see any team 2-0ing BIG unless everything goes wrong (losing all pistols + the next 2 followup rounds on every half), also i dont think faze would be one of these teams, at least not in their current condition, totally missusing bymas, bad calls, not preparing enough vs BIG. Vitality could totally do it when zywoo is having one of these games and Furia can be hard to prepare against, especially when youre playing them for the first time.
2020-07-09 15:43
Okay dude, i don't want to insult you cause you seem like a pretty calm and collective person. But don't you think its a bit delusional to think Faze could 2-0 BIG? i mean technically every team can 2-0 an opponent but in this case its very very very unlikely. I mean technically BIG can also get 2-0'ed by a random mm team. Just take the last maps between them into account and you should realize that Faze is hopeless atm (losing 8-0 to BIG is devastating). So your opinion is kinda biased (same for me maybe, I still think I am more objective tho). And I agree with this swag guy, its very unlikely to win 2-0 against BIG since their map pool is "BIG" af. I mean they are very proficient on Vertigo, Nuke and Dust 2 => This combination is literally always 1 map for free, at least at the moment. At the end of the day everything can happen obviously...
2020-07-10 12:10
8-0
2020-07-08 20:10
Anyone? BUG Clan = Fluke.
2020-07-08 19:46
#46
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Russia reguix
+1
2020-07-08 20:08
fluke? thats why they won 4 bo3s vs faze 2-0
2020-07-08 20:11
#97
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India c0nsc10us
I don't think you can call it fluke. It's just that all players have been able to perform at their respective peaks lately. Maybe because it's online or maybe because their going through a period of time similar to EG in ESL New York.
2020-07-09 17:19
"I don't think you can call it fluke" Of course you can? lol
2020-07-09 17:48
#112
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India c0nsc10us
Okay. Fantastic response. You're a genius.
2020-07-09 18:19
Thanks.
2020-07-09 18:20
Every team in LAN :*
2020-07-08 19:46
LAN could beat BIG and all teams there Sad but true
2020-07-08 19:47
#21
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Finland Alk0
yeah BIG is a great team but they would never win a big event
2020-07-08 19:50
also good anticheat could beat them but this is another story xD
2020-07-08 19:51
#32
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Finland Alk0
Yeah :D
2020-07-08 19:58
XD
2020-07-08 22:14
seeing how far the 0 firepower version of big came in cologne 2 years ago this team can totally win a big LAN. they won 2 T1 online events in a row, thats not the usual bo1 online upset that we all know but shows that they are a great team. I hope cologne will be on lan so they can prove everyone wrong
2020-07-09 15:35
#91
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Finland Alk0
There is not ”T1 online events” online events are never tier1
2020-07-09 15:53
of course they are, especially in times where these are the most important events. i can comprehend though why an ence fan would be mad, one day they will be a top20 team again, dont worry
2020-07-09 16:00
#101
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India c0nsc10us
+1
2020-07-09 17:21
#110
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Finland Alk0
Yeah you don't obviously know shit about cs, you are probably yellow level on faceit :D No point to argue with you since you don't have any valid arguments you are just blind fanboy.
2020-07-09 18:10
unlike you i actually have some arguments. the only thing you say is "online is not T1, doesnt count xddddd" The most important tournaments are being played online since 4 months, unlike before, online means something now, teams are trying their hardest, not saving strats for lans, preparing for online games. if you dont see the quality of this big lineup you honestly are clueless about csgo esports.
2020-07-09 19:06
+1
2020-07-10 11:39
#15
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Germany Proofenemy
noone /closed
2020-07-08 19:48
No one
2020-07-08 19:48
#20
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Finland Alk0
Anyone on lan
2020-07-08 19:50
#22
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Czech Republic cortan
whoever
2020-07-08 19:51
0/8 Literally anyone on LAN would beat them.
2020-07-08 19:52
+1
2020-07-08 20:11
#26
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Serbia DjapeZ
GERMAN SERVERS
2020-07-08 19:54
I dont think current big is better than prime EG/mouz. So not even close to prime Liquid/ astralis
2020-07-08 19:54
#121
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India c0nsc10us
So true.
2020-07-09 22:10
BIG Academy ez
2020-07-08 19:55
BIG Academy ez
2020-07-08 19:55
nobody obv. astralis on their peak maybe....
2020-07-08 19:56
0/8
2020-07-08 20:10
Vitality beat them, OG beat them. When lan comes back, BIG is old news.....
2020-07-08 20:00
#35
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Europe cyes
Lan is history for next 5 years. AT LEAST. Welcome to new world order my dude
2020-07-08 20:02
#88
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Latvia latvianguy
What are you nuts?
2020-07-09 15:39
#93
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Europe cyes
This is new world order
2020-07-09 17:11
#122
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India c0nsc10us
I really hope you're very wrong. Can't imagine another 5 years like this.
2020-07-09 22:11
#34
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Europe cyes
Noone atm
2020-07-08 20:01
#38
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China Xi_Jinping
yeah no one really they're just the best. everyone on the team has such humongous dicks it's not even close
2020-07-08 20:03
Blitzkrieg international gaming
2020-07-08 20:03
NaVi and other on LAN
2020-07-08 20:05
#47
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Malaysia Suno[t]
LAN tournament
2020-07-08 20:08
#48
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Germany ezidus
i think EG would be a hard match
2020-07-08 20:08
#49
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Norway Martin2310
one tournament like summit does not prove enough for me atleast
2020-07-08 20:09
Dreamhack?
2020-07-10 11:41
NaVi will demolish them on LAN.
2020-07-08 20:10
flair checks out
2020-07-08 20:16
+1
2020-07-08 20:19
+100
2020-07-08 22:14
+1, no doubts
2020-07-08 22:18
#56
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Finland kaurapuuro
Sj gaming
2020-07-08 20:15
#57
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Macau Be_Happier
Astralis with normal lineup
2020-07-08 20:15
saw ez
2020-07-08 20:17
Navi or eg
2020-07-08 20:17
ENCE
2020-07-08 22:04
Pretty much every true top 10 team, wait for cologne man ull see
2020-07-08 22:05
#69
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Norway apx-
LAN
2020-07-08 22:05
literally every team in LAN
2020-07-08 22:07
online - none lan - every top30 team
2020-07-08 22:09
Chaos ofc Leaf +50 kills
2020-07-08 22:10
#81
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United States jack4000
still not over it ?
2020-07-09 15:25
Buffdadys paypal team
2020-07-08 22:13
#82
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Brazil zzzzzzznt
a LAN cable
2020-07-09 15:26
axaxaxa
2020-07-09 15:43
MsLul will rape Bug clan like they did with Optic
2020-07-09 15:34
#94
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Brazil Ferba
MA BOI LEAF WILL DESTROY BIG
2020-07-09 17:13
Na`Vi will dismantle them on LAN..
2020-07-09 17:20
BIG will rekt on LAN...
2020-07-09 17:20
word.exe
2020-07-09 17:51
#107
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Norway zaiiK
just a fluke, most top 10 teams will beat BIG after the break.
2020-07-09 18:04
#108
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Malta easyBets
I guess nobody?
2020-07-09 18:04
#109
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Sweden kAED
TYLOO, because they are the best team in the world
2020-07-09 18:05
a BIG dick
2020-07-09 18:20
Honestly? Imo Fnatic on a good day.
2020-07-09 18:23
#116
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Europe HumbleGuy
5 lvl 10 randoms on a LAN event
2020-07-09 19:04
idk why anyone thinks that big is good
2020-07-09 19:04
Any top 10 team on LAN
2020-07-09 22:16
Why do you think it would be harder to beat them on lan? Xantares is literally known as being the most online player for his skill ceiling. I think if anything it gets harder for them on lan.
2020-07-09 22:18
#130
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Bulgaria MuggzZ
+1
2020-07-10 09:50
Probably even CLG Red on LAN
2020-07-09 22:22
#134
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Austria SplasJ
funny even I could beat CLG red kek
2020-07-10 10:37
That means you could beat big on lan men)
2020-07-10 10:38
#139
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Austria SplasJ
hell yeah
2020-07-10 11:16
Astralis... so ezzy for them. Already counting 5th major ez4astralis
2020-07-09 22:22
Yes
2020-07-10 09:46
LAN > BIG
2020-07-09 22:25
BIG onliners, they will drop off at LAN (syrsonline and onlinetares cry xaxaxa) G2 would beat them if they stop playing like clowns. G2 LAN> BIG online
2020-07-10 09:46
vitality and OG won against BIG in the last tournament btw
2020-07-10 10:20
#133
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Romania decis1ve
well, astralis with all 5 players. Even astralis now bcs they ve been training for some time. Also g2 if its not a final, also na'vi . And the last team that would beat them is furia.
2020-07-10 10:36
#135
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Finland ok_men
ence
2020-07-10 10:37
#153
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Europe Lupuu
+1 TUPLABOSSI KABANOSSI
2020-07-10 11:58
I do think Liquid (once they come back) and EG could have a chance with their superior firepower but sadly they are stuck in NA trashing brazillian and australian noobs. Hahahahaha 0/8
2020-07-10 10:38
Every team in LAN will win this online bots
2020-07-10 10:51
#140
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Other stekin
Tier one event at "LAN". BIG are onliners who don't deserve the no 1 spot at all
2020-07-10 11:24
#141
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Brunei cyLoL
BIG can won B I G
2020-07-10 11:26
#142
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Russia SW@G
FaZe
2020-07-10 11:27
spirit
2020-07-10 11:28
Detona can beat them, they already have a few months ago
2020-07-10 11:36
#150
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Europe Lupuu
EZ4ENCE
2020-07-10 11:48
#154
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Estonia Sn4pzhat
OG beat them so og can win them
2020-07-10 12:04
my premade of gold novas KEKW
2020-07-10 12:13
complexity can beat big. a 100 %
2020-07-10 12:30
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