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tabseN | 
Sweden wyv0 
Anyone here that plays with STONKS? Got any pro tips?
2020-07-08 22:21
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Denmark nrth_LUL
Buy high sell low
2020-07-08 22:21
+1 also comit tax fraud. stonks
2020-07-08 22:25
#3
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Denmark nrth_LUL
shhh don't tell him insider secrets like that
2020-07-08 22:26
#21
tabseN | 
Sweden wyv0
How do I do this?
2020-07-08 23:16
#23
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Denmark nrth_LUL
Sign up for a broker make sure they have the highest fees because high fees = good broker then see what has gain the most value during the market's open and buy that. then wait for it to be worth less than you paid for and sell it.
2020-07-08 23:18
#28
tabseN | 
Sweden wyv0
Idk mens)) Amazon has gone up real quick lately, it's got that momentum right now. But maybe you were talking about the pink sheets?
2020-07-08 23:21
He is trolling. Buy low fee index funds like s&p 500.
2020-07-12 13:57
what brokers do u recommend?
2020-07-09 03:02
#25
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North America retard2k
Commit insider trading
2020-07-08 23:20
stonks
2020-07-09 06:37
#4
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Portugal Surya
The FED is buying stocks like crazy. So its good investment choice. Fed wont let the US Stock Market go down, they just create money , and pump it in the market and the Treasury Bonds. It's a scam but it can make u money.
2020-07-08 22:27
yes its dis simple mens)))! market can not crash cus treasury bonds. 100% risk free cus dey just create more money = problem solved gogo invest mens
2020-07-08 22:28
#7
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Portugal Surya
Of course u have to know what to you're doing... Some basic education in finance and economics
2020-07-08 22:34
which you clearly do not possess
2020-07-08 22:34
#9
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Portugal Surya
You know nothing about me
2020-07-08 22:39
nah but your initial post was so uninformed and wrong that i sincerely hope you dont have a financial education. Glhf!
2020-07-08 22:41
Jeez dude he's only a kid...
2020-07-08 22:52
#19
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Portugal Surya
Really so the FED isn't buying stocks since March ?? bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-04-21/t..
2020-07-08 23:09
Told myself i wouldnt engage any further but ill spend a couple minutes educating you since its clearly needed. Dont even bother replying to this unless its "i get it now thanks". the FED does not buy stocks - in a twisted attempt at semantics you might be able to justify the use of that word, but its not correct. FED buys government BONDS. Bonds. They also purchase mortgage-backed securities and in addition to this they LEND money to businesses. They provide loans by buying obligations/bonds where they lend money, but they will receive every penny back + interests. So basically the government MAKES money and the company LOSES money - this is however still a good deal for both since no one is interested in the company going bankrupt. This would generally be known as fiscal policy. You also mentioned "creating money" i.e. increasing the money supply, this is the subject of monetary policy. Printing more money does not necessarily have a positive effect on the stock market and has nothing to do with fiscal policies. There im done, read a book or do some googling if you really want to learn this stuff.
2020-07-08 23:21
#31
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Portugal Surya
They are buying ETF's mostly. Those include a portfolio of stocks as i am sure u know. Haven't u heard of the SMCCF ? federalreserve.gov/monetarypolicy/smccf...
2020-07-08 23:26
The SMCCF doesn't buy equity ETFs. The Bank of Japan, however, does.
2020-07-12 10:44
#32
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Portugal Surya
If u still disagree or cant get it read this : thestreet.com/investing/fed-bond-buying-..
2020-07-08 23:28
Omfg you are actually infuriating. "Mostly"?? Rofl. Do you actually know what bonds are??? in relation to stocks??? First link says they are buying BONDS - just like i said. Ur second link says the purchase of these bonds MIGHT inflate the stocks because its a STIMULUS to the markets. ITS NO BUYING STOCKS ITS STIMULATING THE MARKET WHICH WILL MOST LIKELY RESULT IN GAINS YES! we literally saw the markets drop 40% MONTHS ago and ur still here saying stocks are safe cause "FED BUYS STOCKS LUL" Fml why am i trying to explain economics to a fcking google teenager who has no actual knowledge and no chance of actually understanding what hes reading. Fuck off i cba to debunk more of your shitty links or logic.
2020-07-08 23:33
#40
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Portugal Surya
Don't get infuriated by facts boy. You don't get it not my fault. Bye
2020-07-09 00:08
#60
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Portugal NabasKi
Chill out mate.
2020-07-10 23:27
I've made the same mistake here. Google experts and their "reliable" sources. Can't interpret information.
2020-07-11 03:11
whats with all the portugeese replying here? :D Tbh we have probably all been there, that is why it's so easy for me to spot a "google teenager" who has a vague and shallow understanding of some financial terms he learned on youtube and facebook. If only he would realise his shortcomings and listen instead of insisting that his misconceptions are facts.
2020-07-11 21:05
You're Surya from Portugal and a fan of OG.
2020-07-12 01:18
#147
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Portugal Surya
Huh so ?
2020-07-13 00:32
Check the charts and get back to us again. FED is the biggest scam ever. If you want to make some money for free, be the part of this scam too. You just need to buy, filter the noise and hold. Works for decades.
2020-07-11 00:15
#146
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Portugal Surya
Its this
2020-07-12 21:17
i think there are things where you can invest in top 20 companies increasing and make ez money from it.
2020-07-08 22:29
#11
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Germany shimmy227
stonk market will crash again in this year, mark my words. (idk really but you should be very cautious right now obviously) after that you could try and invest for short-term profit, like you could have after the crash in april. better to have stocks than money on the bank imo.
2020-07-08 22:46
Imagine investing money lmao Money made to spent
2020-07-08 22:47
#22
tabseN | 
Sweden wyv0
what you mean mens))
2020-07-08 23:17
#62
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Bulgaria goshyy
He is the type of guy to get his paycheck and spend it on toilet paper then starve for the next few weeks until he gets another paycheck to spend it on some more toilet paper!
2020-07-10 23:32
Lmao
2020-07-11 21:05
Imagine getting baited that easily.
2020-07-12 01:19
#135
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Lithuania Sedge
imagine using the exclamation point in 2022
2020-07-12 16:06
#153
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Bulgaria goshyy
Imagine you getting baited by me so easily axaxaxaxaxaxa
2020-07-13 09:34
#13
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Peru Rhenie
Invest in BIG and tabseN stickers ez profit
2020-07-08 22:51
index funds buddy you're not gonna beat the market if you just try to do quick buy/sell for profit if you're gonna put in the effort to learn value investing then by all means go do it(read Intelligent Investor, Security Analysis, common stocks and uncommon profits, and more), and actually follow it and spend time to research for undervalued stocks, then you will be able to beat the market, but otherwise index funds will outperform 80% of wall street people. just by SPY and earn a steady 6-9% per year, don't throw your money away on gambling
2020-07-08 22:54
#20
tabseN | 
Sweden wyv0
i got the intelligent investor on audible mens))
2020-07-08 23:15
nice, ben graham is jesus of stocks
2020-07-09 00:18
my stocks purchased during the pandemic would argue otherwise 😎
2020-07-08 23:28
+999999999999 mens index funds are for nubs lulz
2020-07-08 23:46
I mean they are good if you have lots of money to just let grow. Warren Buffet wants his children to put all his money in index funds when he dies. Me personally I am a short term gains kind of guy and I saw opportunity and went for it. I'm happy with what I made.
2020-07-09 02:53
#39
tabseN | 
Sweden wyv0
What's the percentage this year?
2020-07-08 23:47
yes, its obviously really good since we went into semi depression, i almost doubled my money in 2 months without even spending that much time researching since i have other stuff to do
2020-07-09 00:18
haha same. Im not really a trader. I just saw opportunity and gave it a try. Was really my first time investing tbh.
2020-07-09 02:54
nice, dont put too much money tho, lots of people throw away their savings to do this and screw around dont use stock options
2020-07-09 06:36
I threw some money at an OTC pharma company my tax attorney said was slated to have a vaccine for COVID. Currently I am down 10k... I would say your advise is pretty sound. I have never invested in SPY, seems like a good long term holding option though.
2020-07-11 01:01
stock values fluctuate very easily on short term, you wont be able to predict it only large events have a good chance of having a good impact(like lets say apple releases new phone), but you still wont be able to predict that since if apple releases a phone that people hate, then it will plunge, if its good, then it'll rise. it's still a risk nonetheless so thats why value investers will take in management quality as a factor. if you trust the management of the company to make good decisions(famous != good management), then it makes a company look better(more likely to make good decisions, like releasing a good product or smthn like that). if you dont have the time/commitment to learn this then you're better off going with indexes like SPY. also, dont listen to other people, no matter how "successful" their records are. even if they are on wall street, as i said indexes will outperform 80% of wall street money managers, so either you find a good money manager that follows value investing(most likely hard to find one if you dont know how value investing works, so not really viable), or you buy an index. trusting money managers is like trusting your money to a coin flip. plus, a lot of the ones on wall street have to deal with trying to keep their records positive most of the time, which will pressure them to make bad decisions which will ultimately make them lose money. the price of the stock will eventually return to the companies intrinsic value, but it could take a few years, so you have to be patient instead of panic selling after it drops for a week or so i gtg now, maybe i'll psot mroe later
2020-07-11 02:58
Makes sense. I am holding on to it and seeing what happens. I only put in what I was okay with potentially losing so I am going to ride the wave and hope for the best. My buddy who is a broker has said some of the same things that your mentioning. Long term holdings which will go up and down but in the end will grow seems to be the way to go. I took a look at SPY's 1 and 3 year seems to have dips of course but it has steadily risen.
2020-07-11 21:41
Just buy kambi and chill broder.
2020-07-08 22:54
Fuck STOCKS I'm investing in ROCKS They're only going to get rarer as we destroy the planet I got a 3 ton granite boulder in my garage, and I'm willing to sell it to a private buyer if the market keeps going up PM me if interested
2020-07-08 22:58
#30
tabseN | 
Sweden wyv0
This sounds like a wise choice
2020-07-08 23:25
you are the ultimate chad, gratz
2020-07-09 03:15
Nice, you can even come up with some stupid story to tell the buyers like people selling shitty skins with Katowice 2014 stickers that lose their price when applied on skins but people still buy them for some reason.
2020-07-12 01:24
If you took that an analogy I'm sorry I had you confused My ROCKS even if they have some KATOWICE GRAFFITI applied to them are worth just as much.
2020-07-13 06:15
wallstreetbets
2020-07-08 22:59
#26
tabseN | 
Sweden wyv0
I'm thinking Take Two Interactive boys, it's worth?
2020-07-08 23:20
Yeah it's a great company and stock. No idea how it will perform short term, but long term I think it will perform well. I have about 120k invested in them through Avanza. Think they offer no fees for new customers with max 100k sek or something.
2020-07-10 22:49
#74
tabseN | 
Sweden wyv0
Yeah mens)) im very proud of my portfolio now
2020-07-11 00:19
#27
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Finland Palomies
Now is really not the time to get into the markets. Please, for your own money's sake, sit in the sidelines for a while.
2020-07-08 23:20
#29
tabseN | 
Sweden wyv0
You sure mens)) Doesn't it depend on what you're buying, even though the market has gone down, there are stonks like Take Two Interactive and Amazon that been going up mens))
2020-07-08 23:25
#34
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Finland Palomies
True. This is only my opinion. I sold all my stocks in February just in time before the crash, and bought gold and silver with some of the money, the rest is sitting in the sidelines for now. If you wanna learn how to pick stocks, learn how to assign proper values to them. Read up on the P/E ratio and such. I lost a lot of money (back in the day) buying into some indebted shit company, even though it was "cheap". There was a reason it was cheap. Remember that stocks are for speculation, so you might lose all of your money if the company goes bankrupt. Good luck!
2020-07-08 23:29
#37
tabseN | 
Sweden wyv0
Thank you!
2020-07-08 23:38
you wanna wait another year for another bear, or find undervalued securities right after this one(i understand that a lot of stocks have bounced back, but some are still undervalued like always, there are just more opportuntiies)
2020-07-12 01:36
imagine investing in stocks lul invest in gold instead
2020-07-08 23:31
Gold Nova?
2020-07-12 01:25
I invest in socks.
2020-07-09 00:19
literally just BUY NOW. Every week its going up. Since ur swedish; Get Avanza account Buy Avanza OMXS30 Index Tracker (minimum 1000 SEK investment to avoid courtage fees) Ez profit, probably +5% in a couple of months
2020-07-09 03:04
There are no courtage fees on mutual/index funds, so you can invest any amount. But if were to invest only in index funds I would choose one that follows a much larger index. OMXS30 is like 60% industry and finance.
2020-07-10 22:43
I guess you can buy XACT, but I prefer avanza's trackers
2020-07-10 23:16
Are you Swedish? If so I see no point in buying trackers. There are no courtage fees on mutual funds, none what so ever. Many have management fees but Avanza offer their own index funds like this one for free. It follows omxs30. Viable option since it's free, although as I said in my above post I would prefer a wider index than omxs30. avanza.se/fonder/om-fonden.html/41567/av..
2020-07-10 23:20
Are you Swedish? If so I see no point in buying trackers. There are no courtage fees on mutual funds, none what so ever. Many have management fees but Avanza offer their own index funds like Avanza Zero, for free. It follows omxs30. Viable option since it's free, although as I said in my above post I would prefer a wider index than omxs30.
2020-07-11 00:34
avanza zero is a tracker in case you didnt know
2020-07-11 01:50
No, it’s an index fund.
2020-07-11 03:31
investing is fun and it is a way to build a passive income ie. an income where you make money without working in the normal sense. Don't expect to get rich over night, it can happen but nothing is guaranteed. 1. Do not invest if you can not afford to lose you investment. 2. Consider what things people will always need, going with that offers some "security". 3. Do not get ruled by emotions. The trick is to predict what is gonna happen and act on it before it happens, so you need to go by trends be it short term or long term. Like for example investing in Airbus or Boeing is not likely to be a good thing short term, but most likely that world will start flying again and eventually the airlines will want new planes. So if you got time maybe it is something to consider.
2020-07-09 03:08
Stocks in 2020 lol. There will be a great depression (see long term debt cycle). FED printing fake $$. Just inflated stocks. If you want to keep wealth and create wealth then the choice is obvious : gold/silver to keep your wealth. Bitcoin to increase yout wealth (21M coins only, deflationary, high stock to flow ratio).
2020-07-09 07:53
Yeah betting against FED is real smart. What you're saying is nothing new, ever since 07/08 when QE's were initiated in US there have been talks of that. Sure, gold works as an hedge against inflation, but when are we going to see it? If you wanna have a static portfolio with annual reallocation you could argue for 10-20% gold, not any silver. But if you're somewhat active, there is absolutely no point in having gold or silver in your portfolio. Stock market can continue to rally for many years. And if you really believe in the whole doomsday theory of everything crashing (bonds, real estate, stock market), the only hedge would be to own physical gold and store them in a safe vault. Well, that works if you're very rich, since the fees and taxes for physical gold investment are very high.
2020-07-10 22:35
physical gold have no future, he told you the best investment.
2020-07-10 23:20
Bitcoin? Do you have any idea how much it is affected by stock market and USD? Perhaps it will be a viable long term investment, but it is certainly not a hedge against a market crash.
2020-07-10 23:24
Not a normal crash, perhaps it will do better, perhaps not. But for a big boi crash(depression?), or rather just a collapse of the current money policy, then it will most certainly out preform. In a way stocks themself are fake and hold no real value.
2020-07-10 23:31
A depression or long term recession doesn't happen over night, and in a recession it will be much more effective to be a stock picker compated to now when everything's going up. If the whole worlds current economic system would collapse, why would anyone want bitcoin? Try going into a shop asking if you can buy with bitcoins. Bitcoin just like gold has no real value, since they just depend on the USD. If USD collapses, so will them. Do you think central banks will even allow bitcoin? Governments and central banks want control of the money system for obvious reasons. Perhaps they will create their own e-currencies like a few central banks are already doing. Bitcoin has no real value, all it is at the moment is just another speculative asset.
2020-07-10 23:42
Obviously bitcoin is not ready for buying food in a shop etc, but developments occur quickly and in 10years the lightning network will be good enough for daily trxs. People won't even know what a bitcoin is. It will be like asking someone "how many millions do you have? Oh, I have 0.00034 millions" 1BTC = 100Million satoshis. why would anyone buy bitcoin? Greatest performing asset of the last decade, lower inflation rate than even gold, in 4 years its stock to flow ratio will be higher than golds' (highly correlated with market cap). Scarcity, proof of work and scalability accross time and space gives it value. It is not a cryptocurrency if it is centralised and produced by a bank. See what happened to facebook's libra haha. USD has no intrinsic value. Same logic. it is backed by nothing.
2020-07-11 00:57
"and in 10years the lightning network will be good enough for daily trxs" People said that 5 years ago. If a cryptocoin would be used in the future for most transactions, why would people use bitcoin which is based on old and slow technology compared to some of the newer cryptos? People buy bitcoin today only because they see it as digital gold, and in the end they wanna cash out in USD. "It is not a cryptocurrency if it is centralised and produced by a bank. See what happened to facebook's libra haha. USD has no intrinsic value. Same logic. it is backed by nothing." That comment makes no sense, seems like you lack basic understanding of central bank monetary policy and global trade. Almost everything in the world is traded in USD. Doesn't matter what speculative asset you invest in, in the end you wanna cash out and get USD. Facebook is a private company, not a central bank, I don't quite see the parallel.
2020-07-14 18:06
Bitcoin, USD, Gold and SEK hold no real value, but btc don't pretend it has. Everything depends on USD at the moment, but everything works without it. You will have a bigger chance of paying for something with bitcoin than gold during a collapse. Yes, they will ban bitcoin further but I doubt btc would care about it. Either way I don't hope or even believe in a total collapse, however I believe that the current money policy is broken and will be abolished soon enough, I suppose some sort of E-Currency from "countries" will replace it (hopefully a worldwide currency for all). Bitcoin will still remain during this, as will gold/silver and true value such as land and property on that land.
2020-07-11 10:03
The only Assets that will be useful AFTER a Big Boi depression is Gold/Silver. During the Depression, it is land that you can grow food on, water & power / medical services. If it's a really bad Depression/Collapse, then land for food, clean water & medical services (Dentistry, Minor Surgery, Remedial Medical Care etc.) In the USA in the Depression, it is estimated that an extra 7 million Died for lack of the 4 Basic needs, Food/Clean Water & Remedial Medical Care, also Housing/Homes that were somewhat water proof...
2020-07-10 23:57
its not 1930 anymore, people in the first world don't die of starvation, also a few years of depression might even improve the health for Americans forcing them to no longer drink soda and eat 5k kcal a day))) I would rather have 1 Bitcoin above 1 "kg" of physical gold, during a depression or anytime really.
2020-07-11 09:09
#129
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Finland Palomies
I'm not betting against the FED, I'm betting for the FED. And ECB, BoJ and BoE. Taxes on gold depend on the country. In Finland the VAT is 0% and you pay capital gains tax (if you report it) and in Estonia the VAT is 0% for both gold and silver.
2020-07-12 10:17
But can you even store them anywhere? If buying large amount of gold I mean. In Sweden banks have stopped customers from storing gold in safe vaults, so you either have to pay some company ridiculous amounts of money annually, or keep them at home with a super expensive home insurance if you don't wanna risk them getting stolen. From what I can find there is 20-25% VAT for buying silver in all EU countries, there was 0 for a while in Estonia due to some error but it's been fixed since 2016 so the same EU policies apply there. Buying physical gold or silver just don't seem worth it unless you're really rich and wanna hedge. And of course you can get exposure to gold through trackers or even ETCs like Xetra-Gold that say they store the gold in physical form for you and can guarantee it. But if the whole market economy as we know today would collapse and we would get a high stagflation, I wouldn't trust I would get out my gold that is said through some papers that they store somewhere in Switzerland. These ETCs could essentially be worth nothing when it comes to it.
2020-07-13 00:54
#154
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Finland Palomies
Gold price per kilo is 58 000 $, one litre of gold is 19,3 kg which equals roughly 1 120 000 $. So you gotta have some serious money to run out of space. Those who know where I live don't know I own PM, and those who know I own PMs (like you right now) don't know where I live. Safe enough for me. My bad, silver coinage is VAT free in Estonia. (buysilvercoins.eu/bullion-vat-informatio.. ) And what comes to exposure through paper gold, there is some serious fuckery going on with COMEX paper claims to physical -issuance, as well as SLV and GLD ETF's. Here are some data from 2015 (ainsliebullion.com.au/Portals/0/COMEX-Si..https://www.ainsliebullion.com.au/Portals/0/COMEX-Silver-Owners-Per-Oz-060616.png (indigopreciousmetals.com/media/lazyload/..https://www.indigopreciousmetals.com/media/lazyload/cms_page/cache/1/650x/comex-cover-ratio.jpg). Old news, but the situation isn't any better now than it was then. Some are also speculating that just considering the massive demand for GLD and SLV ETFs, which are supposed to be backed by physical gold and silver in the banks' vaults, it is impossible for the banks to have bought, moved and verified the amount of precious metals required to back the ETF up. It could be a leasing scheme, or just plain innovative accounting. Paper isn't gold. So if you aren't holding gold in your hand, you don't own gold. You own paper. That means you are putting your trust into someone else in that they have your gold, somewhere. If you are filthy rich, I don't think having your gold stored inside a mountain in Switzerland is too much of an expense, considering the safety. Edit: Idk why the links are fucked up, can't fix em
2020-07-13 10:22
#155
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Finland Palomies
Just to clarify: you can mint a 1 kg coin, it's just bigger than a normal coin. VAT free, lol
2020-07-13 10:35
yeye already saw -20% and then everyone saying "soon second wave comes, -30/40% for the year inc" and then its still going up... Expect +10% at least after the year ends
2020-07-11 00:08
Tesla Amazon Apple FaceBook Google Those stocks have gone nuts recently, No Not The Price.... The Market Cap has gone bonkers. Those stocks have added over 1/2 A TRILLION FUCKING DOLLARS IN MARKET CAP IN SIX DAYS! An insane situation, as it makes no sense vs their earnings & profit forecast.
2020-07-10 23:43
You do realize the stock price reflects the market cap?
2020-07-10 23:47
Dude, why is the Market Cap so high? Answer this.... ?
2020-07-10 23:58
Oh yeah i forgot one other stock. MICROSOFT! Why has their market cap gone through the roof? I don't know why & neither does anyone else except the people who are pumping Microsoft's stock price to crazy levels.... Plenty of Theories out there but little hard info.
2020-07-11 00:07
#78
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Europe Rawrcakes
Mate I think you need to look up zero-sum economy.. Try and see how it applies to stocks and market caps.. I'd explain it further but i'm afraid I don't know the subject enough to nail down the point. Anyway, the answer you're looking for is in that subject.
2020-07-11 00:26
Thanks for the suggestion, am doing it :) All I've come up with so far is a crazier version of MMT, will look more. Ahh now i see, robbing Peter to pay Paul what he owe's Jack. Thank you for this. This sort of thing leads to incredible rage in the people who are the losers, rage leads to unspeakable acts that are carried out without mercy or second thoughts.
2020-07-11 00:32
#138
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Finland Palomies
Here's an explanation by Ray Dalio, butchered by me. The economy can be divided into two: the real economy and the financial economy. Stock prices are determined by the financial economy, and their earnings come from the real economy. Why are stock prices so high? Since they are determined by the financial economy, let's look at that more closely. Money in the financial economy is always looking for yield. It is invested into assets and products that generate cash flow, for example it is loaned forwards to someone and they pay interest for it. Another example would be investing in real estate, and pocketing the difference between maintenance costs and the rent from your tenant. As you may know, sovereign bond yields have dropped to near-zero in the US and have been there in much of Europe for some time. This means, the financial money cannot generate any returns from sovereign bonds, so it is driven to riskier, higher-yielding assets. For example the stock market. This drives everything up, and now because of the FED printing, money is slushing around in the financial economy. If you get a 0.624% yield from US 10-year bonds, that's a imaginary P/E of 160ish. So it's all about how low a return you are willing to get for your money. A P/E of 50 would mean that the expected return from that stock is 2% (simplified). Valuations could go anywhere.
2020-07-12 19:56
Before the coronavirus a lot of people judged or questioned why tech stocks had so high valuation. Then boom we have the crash because of the virus, and people realize the tech stocks valuations were not anything at all like the dotcom-bubble. Companies like Amazon, Google, Netflix and Apple, whole tech sector really, thrived in the crisis because they all had products or services used by people working or studying from home. Their businesses were not as affected as say heavy industry or real estate. This in combination with greed, a lot of FOMO and TINA, and passive ETF's pumping in enormous amount of money in NASDAQ stocks lead to a rally. The new "internet of things" companies have usually a very high gross margin since their business ideas are very cheap to scale up. Best example is Adobe. They invest money to develop their programs once. Then they can scale up their sales with no cost at all once the product is made. Through subscription plans they have a very steady income, which is very good and safe for investors. Sure most of the tech stocks have very high valuations, on the other hand they all have a high growth rate, have a steady cash flow and good finances. Tesla on the other hand is just a highly specualtive stock atm where a lot of small private investors are putting their money because of positive momentum (just like bitcoin before it crashed at 20k). Just take a look at twitter and r/wallstreetbets and tesla is everything they talk about.
2020-07-11 00:31
Their projected income does not warrant their stock price. Even in the most wildly optimistic forecast. All I can think of is an Avalanche of Hot Money looking for a temporary home. How much did the FED print this year? Was it 3 or 6 Trillion?
2020-07-11 00:42
Well projections aren't always right and it's not all about this quarter or this year. Will be interesting when reports start coming in. Well from FEDs QEs there's not so much going into the stock market directly. More of a positive psychological effect. Most of the money has gone into government bonds, although FED will now also start buying corporate bonds, even high-yield which is a very high risk debt where companies have a low credit rating.
2020-07-11 00:52
Thanks for this, I mean it. Thank you for the time and care you've put into answering my questions :) I don't have any really useful info for you except to tell you that I work in Manufacturing commercial & domestic appliances and suddenly we are really busy, people are upgrading their equipment or getting it serviced. I do not normally follow, look at the Stock markets but the last few months have been a bit weird and that got me to thinking about what happens when the shit hits the fan or when the people who are in control over reach themselves or they stop paying attention to the fundamentals.
2020-07-11 01:06
Yeah people are spending more money on their homes now when they can't travel this summer, either buying things or renovating. Thanks, have a good day :)
2020-07-14 17:53
They all do the the same thing, they are tech companies that have tracking. They will be pioneers of the new world.
2020-07-11 00:27
Yeah, we are gona be tracked to the bog and back... All I can see are Corp's that are close to the .Gov's & the Central Banks.
2020-07-11 00:35
That's our choice.
2020-07-11 00:47
We are mesmerised by the shiny thing? So easy to distract by the scary thing? I don't want to live in a virtual form of the Lockdown for the rest of my life... *must get some land and a Tiny house far away....
2020-07-11 00:53
Whoever invested in the beginning of april is doing great right now, where are all the bros?
2020-07-10 23:47
#72
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Europe Rawrcakes
I'm laughing all the way to the bank because I bought Better Collective stonks when they announced they bought HLTV and expanded into e-sports. So far i've doubled my investment.
2020-07-11 00:14
Nice brother, hit me five
2020-07-11 01:49
#71
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Europe Rawrcakes
First of all, take any advice you get from teenagers on hltv.org, especially when it comes to money, with a grain of salt. Second of all, investing in stocks is a marathon, not a sprint. Third. If you have debt, paying it off is always a better alternative to stocks. Always. In reality, Mar/April was (In some cases for swedish stocks still is a little bit) - THE best opportunity in the past 12 years to invest. We need to look at 2007 before we find a similar opportunity. That being said, if you consistently allocate a certain amount of money to buy stocks, eventually you'll accumulate enough, to make the dividend payments worth it over time. Many people believe that you need to actively buy and sell stocks to make money, and believe that it is all a rigged hoax as a result of this need. This is a false perception, very radical among some of the younger internet users. Stocks also pay dividends, and this is one of the key factors when you're hand picking stocks. A dividend is a monthly / quarterly / annual payment that all shareholders receive, if the dividend policy was reached. (In gamer terms - If your company scored high enough, everyone gets paid $$$) As a Swede, you should have more than enough opportunity to "cut" your monthly expenses and luxuries to make room for a 500-1000 SEK investment monthly. If you do this, over the next 20-30 years you'll probably accumulate enough wealth to be financially independent. Consider each of these monthly investments into whatever you decide it to be, as you, lending your future self money. As for which stocks to buy, I'd look into actively managed funds, both on the swedish, danish and norwegian markets. An actively managed fund is a group of investors that hire professionals to manage larger amounts of money. The fund managers will actively trade and sell stocks based on their strategy, and as a stakeholder you gain from their trades. They'll do the brain and practical work for you. Alternatively, you can hand pick your own companies based on what you believe will have a future. This is far more risky however. Finally i'll leave you with this nugget: The banks are actually paid to advice you on this, for free. Call them and get a crashcourse
2020-07-11 00:10
#76
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Europe Rawrcakes
Us nordics have great opportunities and relatively low fees when investing in our own backyard. I'm personally looking to expand even further into the swedish market. Specifically I want a piece of Cloetta's business because I don't think BILAR will ever go out of fashion.
2020-07-11 00:24
"Third. If you have debt, paying it off is always a better alternative to stocks. Always." Cant agree with this one. There are basically no succesful companies or investors without debt. As long as the interest rates are this low, depending on how risk tolerant you are investing is often a lot better than paying back loans with low interest. I took a substantial loan (while already having student debt and mortgage) to invest during the dip which has been very lucrative. Why would i pay off a 1-3 % loan when stocks generally give 7% annual yield and 50%+ in the last 3 months? "Finally i'll leave you with this nugget: The banks are actually paid to advice you on this, for free. Call them and get a crashcourse" PLEASE do not take advices from your local bankers. If you didnt know, Banks generally have "overall" stock picks. It seems weird if you go to one department and they tell you to buy tesla and then you go to another of their departments and they say "dont buy tesla, buy apple" or w/e. So basically they are all told what to recommend/not to by the top. And if ANY of these people actually knew anything about being a succesful trader they would NOT be working a 9-17 job at a bank, they would be trading 24/7. Also, there is nothing they can teach you that you cant learn on google/youtube yourself. As you said, if you dont want too much involvement or risk, put your money in funds or indexes. Otherwise you have to make your own research and i would MUCH rather get all the data online and try to make a decision based on that rather than listening to your bank
2020-07-11 21:42
#140
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Europe Rawrcakes
Well Estonian banking doesn't really have the best reputation - That's why the scandinavian banks divested from the market - Corrupt. If you can't agree, then you're fundamental understanding of an investment is flawed, hence why I said that you should always take advice from HLTV with a grain of salt. If you have debt, your net gain on that "investment" is always negative. If you have debt, and you invest in any asset, you are investing into the hope of a positive gain, but you can't guarantee it - When you cover your debts, your profit from the investment is guaranteed. But since you can't agree with it, i'll use the example based on the artificial numbers you provided. You claim a +50% in the last 3 months from stocks. Sure, we'll go with this as the gain. You also claim that a loan is 1-3%. Not even the banks loan money at these rates. How can you? - Most loans carry 8% annual interest, and are compounding in nature. In Denmark we have a max of 38% on loans. But, even with your flawed math, paying off investments is still better. In your case, the 50% gain is actually achieved over 12 years. That's the amount of time since the last time an opportunity like that came around. So, lets take your 3% loan, and times it up over 12 years. If you have a debt of 10.000, and you pay 3% interest a year, your yearly loss is 300 The first year, your debt is 10300, then 10609 Keep going like this eventually your total payment on the debt is around 14257. Luckily, you're the kind of person who catches that one stock with a 10.000 investment and make 50% gain, and the debt wasn't a sound investment.. Right?
2020-07-12 20:07
Jeg er skam fra DK min ven :D And im not sure we get to talk about dysfunctional and corrupt banks when Danske Bank is in the midst of the biggest banking scandal in years. I will keep it short since you start out by saying im completely wrong but imo (and objectively really) YOU are incredibly wrong. Not that it matters but i got a master in business and economis from CBS btw. Again, this didnt really teach me anything about this stuff, i learned it myself, but im definitely qualified to say you have no or very limited knowledge and experience with this stuff. The mortgage rate is around 1% atm. I have loaned money at everything between 1-3% during the last year. 8%+ would only be for small "consumer loans" and if you have a bad credit line. I have assets which makes me able to loan at a low interest rate, along with MANY other people. If you ACTUALLY think its hard to get loans at 1-3% and that 8% is the norm, there is no point in continuing, you are clueless or have only experience this world from a very limited perspective resource-wise. And i do know what compound interest is, theres no need for you to explain it with an 8th grade example :D If you really want, i can show you my nordnet and handelsbanken accounts in private, and you will see that the 1-2% interest rate that i pay is NOTHING compared to having bought stocks during this panic. Anyway, as i said we most likely have very different experience and perspectives on this, so im not sure theres any constructive conditions to continue.
2020-07-12 20:17
#142
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Europe Rawrcakes
You're still taking advantage of once in a decade opportunities with assets and money that you don't technically own. Should your investments fail, suddenly you're indebted and your investments are no longer paying dividends. What then? Your debt isn't going away. I also hope that you, even though you pump yourself up high and mighty with your private once in a lifetime results, are realizing that you're arguing against Warren Buffet's advice. I'm honestly surprised that CBS student has such a terrible grasp on compounding & the dangers of investing with loaned money. For christ's sake, you've had the past 12 years to study the errors of 2007, and you. Yes, you mr. 420blazeit, went and did the exact same thing that caused the banking crisis 12 years ago. What confounds me, is that you have the audacity to sit and actually pass on the advice as both legitimate and good. Perhaps you aren't old enough to remember what happened? While we might be in different places financially, the path you're advocating for we've already seen the results of. Just don't forget to sell when we hit November pal.
2020-07-12 20:27
No offence my friend, but i cant be bothered to read more than the first line. I actually work with this stuff, and the world is literally BUILT on debt. Can you please tell me why Apple has debt?? They basically have a treasury chest bigger than the US government. WHY do they have loans and debts when they cant guarantee that their investments, take-overs etc will be succesful??? ffs i cba, ill just tell you that i work with and know a lot of VERY rich people (500m-2B DKK) and EVERY SINGLE ONE OF THEM HAVE DEBT. And i really dont care if you believe me, its common knowledge anyway. You dont pay out your mortgage or credit lines at 1-3 % when stocks historically give 7% annual yield... its just bad business and simple economics. You can continue answering, but ill stop reading and make my reply at the first sight of a serious error and misunderstanding on your part, which in your latest post was about 2-3 lines in. edit: i gave you the benefit of the doubt and read a little further... the fact you mention WB which every penny-stock pocket-change private investor does, while he has been horrendous at making investments in the last 10+ years and missed huges opportunities during corona
2020-07-12 20:34
#144
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Europe Rawrcakes
Læg Mary Jane fra dig og gå i seng kammerat, tror du har fået lidt for meget.
2020-07-12 20:33
Det bare synd at jeg VED jeg har ret, og du tror du har ret fordi du engang har læst en eller anden artikel eller set en youtube video :D Det svarer lidt til når en CT pusher og trader 1-1 og så mener han gjorde det godt fordi han "fik entry". Dit udgangspunkt og logik er mindst lige så dum, så der er ingen grund til at fortsætte :D at du ikke fatter noget så basalt som at ALLE store virksomheder og investors har gæld, så er du i sandhed fuldstændig clueless! Pas på dig selv og dine penge min ven! edit: kom lige i tanke om du også anbefalede at spørge sin bank..... hahahaha ved ikke hvorfor jeg overhovedet prøver
2020-07-12 20:37
Buy Astralis stocks
2020-07-11 00:19
#79
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Sweden wyv0
never mate
2020-07-11 00:27
Everything will crash in late December, bookmark it. Sell before December at the moment it's the fools greedy catcher. At the moment buy buy now pay later type of stocks.
2020-07-11 00:25
#85
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Norway at0mic_cs
buy stonks in december when the stock market crashes
2020-07-11 00:35
#92
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Poland JKG
Better make some bets I mean you will lose money anyway (cosidering that you are a total newbie at investing in stocks) and at least you will have some exciment
2020-07-11 01:03
Are you out of you're mind? google.com/search?q=average+return+s%26p.. Actually just invest in an snp500 index. I mean tell me when you find a bank with 9.8% interest rate! xD
2020-07-11 03:09
#94
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Denmark KalasYoP
1. Buy at the right time. For example, when you know a company is going to launch a new product, that will make the stocks grow, in the near future. 2. Watch for EPS and E/P ratio, since these values give you a great insight in the stocks
2020-07-11 01:07
"buy at the right time" what a great advice :D and when YOU know that a company is about to launch something the chances are that the market has this information too. And this information is already priced into the stock. So you can take a guess and decide that the launch will be even more profitable than the market/analysts have concluded. But to think that futures launches/pipeline ideas are not priced into the stock already is delusional. P/E and EPS give absolutely no info about the stock or company. Sure its data, but how do you compare the P/E of Tesla with that of Novo Nordisk? Or Ørsted? You cant, hence you have to understand the company and their product and only then can you factor in P/E, EPS etc.
2020-07-11 22:52
#113
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Denmark KalasYoP
For example Apple Stocks. Apple stocks usually rise a lot at the end of September, because of their launch. Every launch has increased stock value except 2 launches.
2020-07-11 23:26
Invest in investment companies and follow the portfolios of smart people. DONT choose specific stocks on your own. You are NOT any smarter than the experts. Also invest in index fonds whos only task is to follow the snp500 or something, these often have low commisions!
2020-07-11 03:02
Nobody here is a pro. They are just being lucky because Fed is behind their backs. What if Fed doesn't pump but creates shortage line like Nasdaq 7500(doesn't go below this)? IF that happens, then I wonder how many can actually make money here.
2020-07-11 03:07
just stonks bro. ez stonks.
2020-07-11 03:26
Name checks out
2020-07-12 01:15
buy $SOLO free money thank me later my avg is @ $1.08
2020-07-11 23:28
just invest in valve and sell when they release source 2/new skins
2020-07-11 23:38
Take a look at some of the sectors of the economy that have taken a big hit. For example, financials. Be aware of the risks going into it. Most likely, the big companies will make it through the pandemic, and there is a lot more risk attached to smaller companies. If you are looking for short term gains and don't plan on holding onto you're stocks long, then I would suggest hopping into the tech bubble. If you're really interested, I'd suggest martin shkreli's stock investment series you can find on youtube. He's a scumbag, but those particular videos are good.
2020-07-11 23:42
Ill better invest in knee socks :sunglasses:
2020-07-12 03:29
why not socks?
2020-07-12 16:07
I just started. I put in like $1300 into into my investment fund and Carona hit like immediately after lol. Anyway I've put in about $1750 now since I put in $100 every month and my balance is still $1715 so it's not so bad I guess. I just let my investment company take care of investing so I guess that would be my advice since they've only lost me at most $35 despite this economy.
2020-07-12 20:12
#152
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India St3elSh0t
You should invest in Rossari Biotech investolingo.com/rossari-biotech-ipo-lat..
2020-07-13 07:23
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