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Worst Player to win a Major
Portugal HOLF 
Fifflaren for sure. hltv.org/stats/teams/players/4411/NiP?ev.. . Just look at the stats from ESL Cologne 2014
2020-07-10 17:21
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Mou
2020-07-10 17:21
muo played really well at Krakow. lol, what you smokin' brah?
2020-07-10 17:24
#28
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Brazil Fauchard
not mou he dominated Device in cobblestone Dosia is the worst player
2020-07-11 17:43
are u on crack??? check top 20 hltv 2013
2020-07-11 17:49
#57
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Canada ASH1
+1
2020-07-11 19:09
newfags dont know that dosia and adren have careers since 2013
2020-07-11 19:26
+1
2020-07-11 19:42
And semi-newfags dont know that Dosia and AdreN had careers way before 2013.
2020-07-11 20:16
Yea. Not sure why semi-newfags trying to lecture newfags when we oldfags know the real shit.
2020-07-12 10:14
#140
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Slovakia Lavend
That is the cycle, oldfags would be nothing without newfags and semi-newfags
2020-07-12 13:47
nice
2020-07-12 15:29
I was about to call BS on you being an oldfag and then I saw "<3 Bullen" and now I have respect for you, fellow oldfag.
2020-07-13 06:08
Hehe us oldfags is rare. Rip bullen. Respect to you brother!
2020-07-13 19:48
how can you support this drinker
2020-07-13 19:58
This dude used to rek me and my teamates online. Few months later he made it big..
2020-07-14 20:14
#341
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African Union fgxnNn
Rip bullen!! I remember playing against him on clanbase matches. Such a monster player he was.
2020-07-15 00:58
dosia 1 major s0mple 0 major
2020-07-13 23:21
+1 caralho
2020-07-15 00:14
#238
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Brazil Fauchard
Now I remember Hobbit is worst than Dosia
2020-07-13 16:26
nice london 0/8
2020-07-13 16:38
#127
Xyp9x | 
Russia Ypp1
Why? He was good on Krarow.
2020-07-12 11:13
mou was good when they won major
2020-07-13 23:13
#2
sh1ro | 
Russia R3YBAH
rush or zeus
2020-07-10 17:23
#5
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Portugal KuaZar
+1 on rush
2020-07-10 17:23
? Rush was super important in the major for c9.
2020-07-13 20:35
nt
2020-07-10 17:23
#8
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United States TrashPanda
Whut lol
2020-07-10 17:23
i dont agree, personally zeus wasnt worse individually than fifflaren + he had a great career and was a leader of a top team for much more time, rush is playing on a top team atm and delivering decently
2020-07-10 17:26
If u would follow him more u would agree with me cuz he's clearly the worst player from cis (INDIVIDUALLY)
2020-07-10 17:27
i kinda did, and fif is way worse
2020-07-10 17:28
+1
2020-07-13 05:06
apart from the fact that Zeus is pretty much the only reason Cis even has a Major you're on crack if you think Gambit could have done it without Zeus
2020-07-15 00:02
who the fuck cares he's the worst individually skilled player who won a major, and that's what Im trying to say here.
2020-07-15 00:05
pffffffffffffft
2020-07-15 00:54
Okey shiro is a good individually skilled player but where is his titles or major, he is just wasting his talent in youngsters Not everything in this game can be compared with skill
2020-07-15 01:01
I mean he's playing on the scene for like 2 years and have 1.26 rating, won lan tournament and a couple of online events. you're so dumb to even compare these 2 things.
2020-07-15 01:12
2 years are enough to win something big or join a good team but why he hasn't joined any team yet??? Maybe because there is something except skill? Nice bullying me for no reason, typical toxic player who is screaming after the first round if somebody doesn't kill lol
2020-07-16 20:37
because he has a contract and buyout is too big I suppose
2020-07-16 20:37
#58
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Canada ASH1
agreed on rush
2020-07-11 19:09
so?
2020-07-11 20:07
#83
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CIS bult0
can u compare that to 0.71 god Fifflaren?
2020-07-11 20:09
who the fuck cares about direct event stat, Im saying overall.
2020-07-11 20:12
#162
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Faroe Islands surni
+1
2020-07-12 14:20
i think you're very autistic.
2020-07-13 23:51
I don't think I care about opinion of some inbreed :DDD
2020-07-14 00:15
dont fucking lie you ugly snowflake beta kid i know my comments will haunt your mind pussy
2020-07-14 00:16
dope
2020-07-14 00:17
ugly ass fuck
2020-07-14 00:17
Yeah rush +1
2020-07-12 10:10
#128
Xyp9x | 
Russia Ypp1
well, mechanically zeus is really bad, but he was the real leader in Gambit, Im pretty sure this wouldn`t have happened without zeus.
2020-07-12 11:14
+1
2020-07-15 05:02
idk about Rush, yeah he arguably probably did the worst on the team overall, but they all pretty much pulled their weight that major
2020-07-13 23:35
he's bad overall
2020-07-14 00:21
chel, v plane zevs bil plohim? hotya-bi vspomni raund na treine protiv astralis
2020-07-15 00:56
Zeus pereotsenenniy bot i eto fact.
2020-07-15 01:12
dyad', on spas gambit na majore, da i nastrelival neploho
2020-07-15 01:18
ti ne vidish 4to ya napisal? On pereotsenen. I to 4to on hudshiy igrok (individually) who won a major is a fact.
2020-07-15 01:20
on yavno ne hudshiy igrok individualno, dazhe ne berya vo vnimanie krakow
2020-07-15 08:54
How were devilwalk's stats?
2020-07-10 17:23
Much better than fiff but still shit edit: replied to wrong comment
2020-07-10 17:27
#246
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Europe the_NDR
only person to win a major as player and coach...
2020-07-13 20:02
devilwalk or fifflaren
2020-07-10 17:23
#7
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Peru TheJuan
none
2020-07-10 17:23
C9 players & Kjaerbye
2020-07-10 17:23
#26
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Slovakia veeellys
Kjaerbye was MVP, how he can be worst major winner?
2020-07-11 16:25
he didnt deserve the mvp.
2020-07-11 17:55
#40
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Israel SOEZ4NIK0
1.4 Rating in the Grand final??
2020-07-11 18:05
so?
2020-07-11 18:07
still how can you compare kjaeerbye with fifflaren
2020-07-11 18:41
since when is it called major finals mvp??????
2020-07-13 23:37
Lmao but still kjaerbye deserved that mvp cause he played really good at playoffs
2020-07-16 20:41
device was better than kjearbye until the finals it should say something that dev was negative in the finals, kjaerbye top fragged, and there was still a huge overall rating diff in favorite of dev in the end
2020-07-16 20:42
He won major for astralis , that's why he is mvp, he deserved his mvp but then he became snake
2020-07-12 05:02
he didnt deserve the mvp.
2020-07-12 10:08
Who else
2020-07-12 11:06
device
2020-07-12 13:49
0/8
2020-07-12 14:21
what???
2020-07-12 14:22
horrible bait :D
2020-07-12 14:22
wdym? he obviously deserved the mvp.
2020-07-12 14:22
device got robbed
2020-07-12 14:31
Not really, Kjærbye shew better performance
2020-07-12 14:35
Device carried them to the finals
2020-07-12 14:44
even in device was the true MVP, you cant deny kjaerbye was the 2nd best player at that major
2020-07-12 17:26
Snax was the 2nd. Kjaerbye was decent but you cant deny that he was overhyped
2020-07-12 17:34
sure he was overhyped but he was still not the worst major winner and he performed at the major with a 1.21 rating
2020-07-12 17:36
#229
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Finland R3ALMM
Nice bait but won't fall for it
2020-07-13 08:11
delusional.
2020-07-13 17:56
#304
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Finland R3ALMM
And how it the MVP not deserved for him?
2020-07-14 13:05
cause he wasnt the best player in the major out of the winning team?? :D
2020-07-14 14:30
#313
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Finland R3ALMM
Expect that he was
2020-07-14 23:54
lmfao. 2 players from the final were much better than him.
2020-07-14 23:54
#129
Xyp9x | 
Russia Ypp1
wtf? Kjaer was good on major!
2020-07-12 11:15
nt Cloud9 deserved
2020-07-12 14:33
Everyone except shit2k
2020-07-12 17:37
Cry more disgusting hate someone who was kicked by parents
2020-07-12 23:16
Stewie was kicked by parents????????? Deserved I bet his mom wished she kept her legs closed after seeing his face
2020-07-13 08:05
reported brainless polak
2020-07-13 18:58
#11
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China acr870
devilwalk
2020-07-10 17:25
devilwalk or pronax.
2020-07-10 17:27
#65
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Ireland Sodaking
your really calling the 3 time Major Champion the worst Major winner ... i'm not saying he's best but come on man if i had to say someone i'd say Adren or Hobbit cause like no offense but apart from that Freak year where they had Dosia Mou and Zeus wtf did they actually do in cs
2020-07-11 19:29
#131
Xyp9x | 
Russia Ypp1
dude, players like pronax or zeus are bad players, but great leaders.
2020-07-12 11:16
#247
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Europe the_NDR
teams need leaders... France will never win a major without Happy or Ex6tenz Sweden will never win a major without xizt or pronax Poland will never win a major without Neo or TaZ denmark shouldnt have won any majors...
2020-07-13 20:04
#249
Xyp9x | 
Russia Ypp1
gla1ve is a great leader + france can win major with nexa
2020-07-13 20:15
#250
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Europe the_NDR
he just frags, with the most basic strats, he doesnt read the enemy like trad igls
2020-07-13 20:16
#251
Xyp9x | 
Russia Ypp1
well, I see Astralis reading enemyes often :/
2020-07-13 20:18
sweden could easily win more majors with golden, g2 could win with nexa but idk if that counts, vitality could win with apex and could have won with alex
2020-07-13 20:25
ex6tenz 0 majors lmao
2020-07-13 23:38
Smithz 100%
2020-07-10 17:50
i mean he wasnt good but he was better than some other major winners
2020-07-11 16:01
+1
2020-07-11 16:07
0/8
2020-07-11 19:11
0/8 He was decent at the time
2020-07-11 20:18
0/8 he play bitch roles perfectly though he whiffed a lot
2020-07-12 14:33
did anyone forget znaider? was he good?
2020-07-11 16:05
#30
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Sweden txshirx
Actually yes, he had an important role back then. He did a great job
2020-07-11 17:48
he played in godsent a few years later right?
2020-07-12 09:19
Yes but he did rather poorly
2020-07-12 11:16
Solid player during the major. Later he got problem.
2020-07-12 10:16
yes he was a good player. very good player.
2020-07-12 10:31
zeus
2020-07-11 16:10
#25
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Russia Alpako228
why men(
2020-07-11 16:23
-1
2020-07-11 19:12
Autimatic & RUSH
2020-07-11 16:11
RUSH, yeah. Autimatic, no.
2020-07-11 17:57
#49
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United States xxxhoshi
newfags like you don't remember how integral RUSH was to c9's major winning lineup. even his complexity teammates speak super highly of him.
2020-07-11 18:51
Still worst major winner He is bottomplayer in tier2
2020-07-11 21:51
#222
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United States Fitzy0
Ur insane, his teams have had success as a support on every team he has played on, even had an offer to join Liquid back in his Optic days
2020-07-13 05:52
-1 autimatic literally made the top 20 that year and RUSH is always dissed Bc he’s a support player and doesn’t put up big stats
2020-07-11 21:11
20 place always placed by flucker 2018 autimatic 2019 valde 2020 Ethan
2020-07-11 21:50
autimatic was 17th in 2018 nt
2020-07-12 17:27
what are you talking about ethan was 20th in 2019, valde was 20th in 2018 and autimatic was 17th
2020-07-13 20:27
Who 🚗s about bites and bytes what store letters what was written by someone in internet
2020-07-13 21:34
autimatic lmao he was their best player at the major "overall" imo
2020-07-12 10:35
LOL best at flucking only
2020-07-12 18:17
#230
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Finland R3ALMM
Faze player mad bc of choke?
2020-07-13 08:13
Karrilul throwed final and c9 players at Boston did insane fluke Same was with AVANGAR at Berlin but Astralis players is not humans
2020-07-13 21:35
#305
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Finland R3ALMM
Karrigan isn't on faze anymore what's your excuse now?
2020-07-14 13:07
2020 major will be FaZe major
2020-07-14 18:19
#314
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Finland R3ALMM
0-3 in groups axaxa
2020-07-14 23:54
Zeus
2020-07-11 16:33
-1
2020-07-11 19:12
0/8
2020-07-13 05:25
#29
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Russia Raqer_Hill
c9 roster
2020-07-11 17:46
there were a few players in that roster who deserved it based off their performance at the time like autimatic. rush tho doesnt deserve it
2020-07-12 10:32
the entire gambit squad except adren and zeus were irrelevant after the gambit major but yeah c9 players fuckin clown
2020-07-13 05:53
how was adren not irrelevant after krakow?
2020-07-13 20:28
Of course,because they kicked their coach and IGL C9 fell apart without any reason lul
2020-07-13 21:37
#31
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Sweden txshirx
Dosia 100%
2020-07-11 17:48
no, check top 20 hltv 2013
2020-07-11 17:51
#43
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Sweden txshirx
Bruh thats 7 years ago
2020-07-11 18:36
bruh with that logic the worst major winner player is someone from 2002 with 43 years old
2020-07-11 19:06
#198
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Sweden txshirx
How is a player that played good 1/8 years considered a good major winner? 0 Logic Edit: hltv.org/stats/players/735/Dosia?event=2.. 1.00 rating at the major he won, how does that make him a good major winner?
2020-07-12 17:22
I think you have single digit IQ
2020-07-11 20:11
+1
2020-07-12 10:34
#199
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Sweden txshirx
#198
2020-07-12 17:23
0/8
2020-07-12 10:16
#133
Xyp9x | 
Russia Ypp1
0/8
2020-07-12 11:17
0/8
2020-07-12 15:27
5/8
2020-07-13 05:07
rush dosia fiff devilwalk taco
2020-07-11 17:51
#67
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Ireland Sodaking
i think Taco is unfair ofc he's not a legendary player but back in 2016 during Brazil's Dominance of the Majors he played a big role for Luminosity and later Sk Gaming now he's a bot yea but he was pretty decent back then defo not worst major winner Fiff you have a good point i checked his stats for that tournament he was fucking trash he had like -71 kd the rest of Nip carried his ass to that major no fucking wonder Nip lost 3/4 of the major finals they were in carrying his ass and Rush is basically American Taco
2020-07-11 19:32
Rush was good tho He played the bitch role in that c9 lineup
2020-07-11 20:19
exact same as taco, but taco was better
2020-07-13 20:30
tbh wasnt watchin during the luminosity times i just put taco cuz it seems like he's been dogshit forever now
2020-07-11 20:38
#95
JW | 
Ireland Sodaking
yea but see i assume anyway the ranking goes worst Pro to win a Major based off their performance in said Major
2020-07-11 21:05
ahhh then yeah probably fiff
2020-07-11 21:23
#135
Xyp9x | 
Russia Ypp1
TACO and Dosia, LUL. 0/8
2020-07-12 11:18
C9
2020-07-11 17:54
Why do so many people roast RUSH? He played pretty well in major Fifflaren is the worst for sure. Devilvalk, pronax and taco are also honorable mentions
2020-07-11 18:00
idk pronax was bad but he won three majors so it wasnt a fluke how he won a major unlike some gambit players
2020-07-11 18:41
he won them thanks to his teammates tho. His individual performance was very bad
2020-07-11 18:44
ye ye for sure
2020-07-11 19:07
#39
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Greece Poor_Noob
me
2020-07-11 18:02
#42
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Finland HARD4ENCE
Rush or Dosia probably.
2020-07-11 18:32
#44
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Myanmar jXcKK1
imo fifflaren
2020-07-11 18:37
Happy and Maniac ( He won a major with LDLC right? think so )
2020-07-11 18:49
maniac didnt win a single major, happy won two and tbf he was very good at the time way better than devilwalk, pronax, fifflaren etc
2020-07-11 19:07
It's not hard to shoot people in the back or get the useless low hp leftover kills, a style which s1mple abused in fpl back in the day. Ain't buying it that he was good, there's a reason why his style worked for such a short period of time
2020-07-11 19:11
can you really compare a two time major winner that was the mvp in one of them, with fifflaren
2020-07-11 19:23
with the goat, absolutely, he didn't have kennyS with a highly OP gun at that time carrying him
2020-07-11 19:31
0/8
2020-07-13 20:32
happy 2 time hltv top 10 player of the year
2020-07-12 17:30
happy always was baiting bot with low impact
2020-07-13 23:15
#82
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CIS bult0
happy was MVP of his first major
2020-07-11 20:07
Happy won a major carrying envy bro
2020-07-11 20:20
happy was a baiter IGL. he is still a baiter to this day.
2020-07-12 10:34
happy did NOT carry envy lmaoo i mean he wasn't the worst major winner, but he wasn't even close to carrying envyus at Cluj napoca
2020-07-13 23:40
Wtf happy lul And maniac didn't win major
2020-07-12 14:32
Fifflaren_1_Major_S0mple_0_Major
2020-07-11 18:52
+1 GOD FIFFY
2020-07-12 10:33
Pronax?
2020-07-11 19:04
#69
JW | 
Ireland Sodaking
are you on crack sure he was not best pro ever but he won 3 fucking Majors and you must be really stoned if you think he didn't play a big part in that
2020-07-11 19:33
Lmao top 5 csgo igls of all time easily
2020-07-11 21:54
igl yes, skill no so stfu
2020-07-12 11:08
Imagine thinking that aim is all their is to skill in csgo lmao
2020-07-12 13:45
#53
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Mexico sneakyboy
device
2020-07-11 19:05
#70
JW | 
Ireland Sodaking
hahah very funny smartass
2020-07-11 19:33
#71
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Mexico sneakyboy
? what
2020-07-11 19:34
#73
JW | 
Ireland Sodaking
you think the 4 time Major Champion 2 Time Major MVP is worst pro to ever win the Major gtfo baiter
2020-07-11 19:34
#75
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Mexico sneakyboy
what's wrong with that
2020-07-11 19:36
#76
JW | 
Ireland Sodaking
so you really think he's worse then Fiff the guy who had a Negative 72 kdr at the major he won
2020-07-11 19:36
device is literally the best player to ever win a major. this guy is just delusional.
2020-07-12 13:57
I'm not gonna argue for Best Player to win a Major but it's massively insulting to say Dev1ce is even close to being worst to win a major i think the better way of deciding this is people who only won a single Major
2020-07-12 20:08
whos better then?
2020-07-13 20:36
well i assume this question is a particular major performance like how a player did in a major they won so i think Zeus could have a fair shout at that title like he brought together a team of nobody's and lead them through to a major title the role he played in their Major was incredible now Dev1ce also an incredible player but remember in all 4 majors he won he was surrounded by an incredibly stacked team who also did a fair part so point is i think Zeus did more for his team then Dev1ce because Zeus just straight up carried Gambit to that major Dev1ce had 4 incredible performances but not that much better then the rest of Astralis to take the top spot now if the question expands to multiple Majors won ofc Dev1ce Number 1 but if the question is only based off 1 Major Performance i'd say Zeus over Dev1ce and i hope you can understand my thoughts behind it cause Gambit was not a star studded team at all
2020-07-13 23:21
ok, i understand what you mean. he did a lot with very little.
2020-07-13 23:22
yes i am basing my answer on the assumption the question is based off the impact a player had in a major title Zeus had far less then Dev1ce team wise but for historical look back at all majors combined i think Dev1ce is the most under rated Awper in Csgo like a 4 time Major champion and not even considered in the goat debate and many prefer him over S1mple and Zwyoo who have never even won a flaming major like at what point does majors won start to get Dev1ce into the conversation
2020-07-13 23:25
a lot of people consider him the GOAT so i dont think hes underrated in terms of that. i think hes really underrated in terms of his mechanical skill though.
2020-07-13 23:27
i rarely see anyone calling him Goat tho but like us two right now are noobs compared to Pros if you had to choose would you rather be a " Goat " like S1mple or Zywoo and never win a Major or a mediocre player like NBK and Taco and win 2 Majors
2020-07-15 00:01
??? Reply needs to have actual content
2020-07-12 10:21
#124
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Mexico sneakyboy
the most overrated player got this titles only cuz of proper team and biggest team chemistry ever very passive player
2020-07-12 10:44
lmfao. so delusional.
2020-07-12 13:49
#144
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Mexico sneakyboy
explain now
2020-07-12 13:57
what is there to explain? anyone with a bit of common sense knows that what you said is absolute nonsense.
2020-07-12 13:58
#146
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Mexico sneakyboy
so my reply on #141: anyone with a bit of common sense knows that what you said is absolute nonsense.
2020-07-12 13:59
youre retarded.
2020-07-12 13:59
#149
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Mexico sneakyboy
anyone with a bit of common sense knows that what you said is absolute nonsense. btw i gave u facts u gave me this: anyone with a bit of common sense knows that what you said is absolute nonsense. negative iq spotted
2020-07-12 14:00
you didnt give any facts. you only gave some kinda theory you made up in your head. no stats, nothing. how is what you said a fact? :D
2020-07-12 14:01
#151
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Mexico sneakyboy
at least me explained why i think so and ur explaination: what is there to explain? anyone with a bit of common sense knows that what you said is absolute nonsense.
2020-07-12 14:02
problem is nothing of what you said is true. hes just as aggressive as he needs to be. they won multiple trophies even as tsm and that team wasnt nearly as good as this astralis, really big gap between device and the others. and show me one big event that was won by a team who only had one guy carrying them? literally never happened, there are always 2-3 players from the team stepping up big time.
2020-07-12 14:05
#156
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Mexico sneakyboy
coldzera carried mibr s1mple carrying navi solo zywoo carrying vitality solo
2020-07-12 14:08
coldzera carried MIBR lmfao. when? and i said show me an event they won solo carrying, not say they carried. device in 2016 has carried way harder than coldzera ever has and he hasnt had a statpadding role.
2020-07-12 14:09
lmao thats solo carrying i guess. none of those except the major is a big event and cold hasnt solocarried anyone at mlg. all of those prove my point, almost all players playing as if they were top 10. not one guy carrying.
2020-07-12 14:19
#161
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Mexico sneakyboy
how u can deny that fact? he is the only one and first in top10 players even it literally means he carried them solo to win are u fak you? hltv.org/stats?event=2027 hltv.org/stats?event=2027
2020-07-12 14:19
fnx LuminosityLuminosity 9 +36 1.22 1.18 BrazilFalleN LuminosityLuminosity 9 +48 1.33 1.18 fer LuminosityLuminosity 9 +2 1.01 1.14 true, hard carry. Opening kill rating 0.98 such an impactful player as well. hltv.org/stats/players?event=2130 hltv.org/matches/2303384/virtuspro-vs-as.. this is carrying
2020-07-12 14:21
#165
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Mexico sneakyboy
like if u're not an entryfragger you cant carry the games solo here's our discussion just ended bye
2020-07-12 14:21
device, s1mple, niko, zywoo etc arent entry fraggers, theyre just not the biggest baiters in the universe. + the opening kill rating wasnt even the primary part of the reply.
2020-07-12 14:24
#170
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Mexico sneakyboy
hltv.org/stats/players/openingkills?star.. you dont even know what are u talking about bye pls dont @ me more
2020-07-12 14:24
opening kill isnt necessarily an entryfrag though. a lot of those are also from ct side.
2020-07-12 14:25
#172
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Mexico sneakyboy
entry frag is just another name for oppening kill LMAO dude stop writing me u r shitted urself so much for this 10 minutes
2020-07-12 14:26
#174
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Mexico sneakyboy
>a lot of those are also from ct side. hltv.org/stats/players/openingkills?star.. shitted urself again, pls just bye
2020-07-12 14:26
lmfao the rating is way lower than ct side. and a lot of those are just awp kills, not entry frags. "Entry Fragging is where a player tries to get an entry pick (kill) to open up a bombsite for the team to play a strategy or take the site. It's used in every single pro team and is one of the vital roles for a player to have."
2020-07-12 14:28
#177
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Mexico sneakyboy
dont even gona read this after how much u shitted already, im sorry bye
2020-07-12 14:29
damn, you just rekt me.
2020-07-12 14:29
#180
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Mexico sneakyboy
sorry
2020-07-12 14:30
honestly a top 3 most delusional user.
2020-07-12 14:32
#185
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Mexico sneakyboy
same 2yu shitted and still trying to look normally (probably understanding that shitted urself) and after every reply shit urself more and more and more
2020-07-12 14:33
And what' s the problem ?? His playstyle works with the way astralis plays Maybe he doesn t hit crazy Flicks or crazy agression as simple but his team doesn't need that
2020-07-13 21:55
#302
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Mexico sneakyboy
we talk about player not a team btw im just baiting hes worst but not worstest jw worst
2020-07-14 07:26
lmao (jw worst) it was kinda obvious that you were baiting but i still had some good laugh
2020-07-15 00:59
#299
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France Insidium
Cs is a team game
2020-07-14 03:04
#303
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Mexico sneakyboy
o/8 men
2020-07-14 07:27
Every Cloud9 player except Autimatic and Stewie2k.
2020-07-11 19:32
#72
JW | 
Ireland Sodaking
Tarik Carried C9 in that Final and Skadoodle played a big role as well
2020-07-11 19:34
Tarik - good player, shit IGL. Skadoodle - he was inconsistent af, his peak was in 2015/16 and he felt down very hard after major. RUSH - even on major was useless, after major - more useless
2020-07-11 20:02
Tarik good player good enough igl to beat FUCKING G2 AND SK Skadoodle during that major was an important part and carried them during the final Rush played the bitch roles prefectly and even his teammates in complexity speak highly of him Automatic at the time was solid but not amazing and he was decent with every gun Stewie was a really entry fragger and could secondary awp very well
2020-07-11 20:23
#74
JW | 
Ireland Sodaking
you know when i read these stats it finally explains to me why they lost 3/4 Major finals they were in carrying that dude my god those stats were awful i think it's a great argument for worst Major winner if we are basing it off their stats at said major
2020-07-11 19:35
#77
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China SwooksarV2
Niko
2020-07-11 19:38
#90
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Europe 230IQUSER
wat
2020-07-11 20:20
#86
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Brazil Morkid
nbkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
2020-07-11 20:13
0/8888888
2020-07-11 20:23
Man znajder_1_major_zywho_and_p1mple_0_major
2020-07-11 21:55
karrigan oh wait
2020-07-11 21:56
Devilwalk_1_major_zywho_and_p1mple_0_major
2020-07-11 21:57
#112
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India bigdong
Bot2k
2020-07-12 10:16
stewie2k smithz fiffy devilwalk
2020-07-12 10:26
Bot2k didn't deserve major.
2020-07-12 10:31
he literally saved c9 on the last round
2020-07-13 05:55
Bot2k didn't deserve major.
2020-07-13 10:35
he literally had worst rating of the team
2020-07-13 22:09
pretty sure "worst rating" was still above 1.1 cant compare that to players like devilwalk, fifflaren, and smithzz who were trash when they won the major
2020-07-13 23:43
true but i mean that rush cant be worst if he was better than stewie
2020-07-14 13:44
stewie was a better player, rush had a slightly better event (barely)
2020-07-14 19:19
Devilwalk was the worst
2020-07-12 10:33
Fifflaren is the GOAT!!!
2020-07-12 11:15
+1 GOAT FIFFY
2020-07-12 11:28
+1
2020-07-12 13:59
#134
jL | 
Estonia pj4
Fifflaren was so bad he should had not been handed the throphey and maybe get a participants diploma instead. So yeah fifflaren is your worst major winner
2020-07-12 11:18
100% -72 KDR for the entire Major that is just terrible i am almost certain no pro player has ever got anywhere close to that for a major they won
2020-07-13 04:53
also dont forget he was single digit kills in a bo3 major final at Katowice 2014 which i don't think will ever happen again
2020-07-13 23:43
dear god that's terrible Get Right really deserved that Major
2020-07-14 02:50
#136
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Germany Constikdw
dosia, devilwalk, znajder, fiffllaren
2020-07-12 11:22
D OMEGALUL SIA
2020-07-12 11:31
znajder
2020-07-12 14:03
He was decent then, watch the major
2020-07-12 14:29
if he was decent he was still in tier 1
2020-07-12 15:12
He just fell off slowly since 2014
2020-07-13 04:46
Fiflarren even worse than kRYSTAL and god knows it's hard...
2020-07-12 14:04
Statswise Fifflaren for sure. Couldn't believe my eyes when OP linked his profile and 0.71 is laughable when you're on the winning team really. Pronax & devilwalk were carried but they were WAY better than this. What a joke!
2020-07-12 14:07
+1
2020-07-12 15:13
#158
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Poland JKG
In terms of individual skill it's either Fifflaren, Devilwalk, Zeus or Pronax but the thing is that Zeus and Pronax were super useful, cuz of IGLing So it's either Fiffy or Devilwalk IMO
2020-07-12 14:13
Zeus is not the worst this guy was honestly the most Under rated igl in csgo history he lead his teams to 4 Major finals like that's no fluke he was an incredible strat dude yes he did not frag well but he is the main reason Gambit won that Major
2020-07-14 23:59
#326
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Poland JKG
Yeah I said that
2020-07-15 00:07
its easily fifflaren
2020-07-12 14:26
Fifflaren
2020-07-12 14:29
#187
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Germany KeKaz
Rush
2020-07-12 14:34
Devilwalk by a long shot, really not mentioned enough in this thread. That fnatic major was really crazy , how could a team with devilwalk win
2020-07-12 14:50
Then again hes 0.2 rating higher than Fifflaren when NiP won...
2020-07-12 15:14
he's worse than fifflaren tho lol
2020-07-12 15:24
Fifflaren Has very bad stats with a whopping win rate
2020-07-15 00:43
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2020-07-12 15:14
#209
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Denmark Dust_2_Go
Xist RUSH Schneider Devilwalk AdreN idk Kjaerbye when he won the Atlanta major he was better than dev1ce, now he got kicked from agruebly Denmark 4th best team. How does someone fall that far. World championship I I I V Trash
2020-07-12 23:22
AdreN played not bad in Krakow. So 0/8
2020-07-13 05:04
AdreN played insane in Krakow...
2020-07-13 06:11
Retard Detected
2020-07-13 08:24
kjaerbye was not better than device at Atlanta, he had a better final, his mvp was stolen and should've been renamed to finals mvp
2020-07-13 23:44
#210
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Slovakia weedko222
Actually there is not only 1 imo there is the whole cloud9 roster
2020-07-12 23:27
#212
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Argentina XaiDN
Fifflaren and devilwalk, i can't decide
2020-07-13 04:48
Fifflaren had -72 kdr Devilwalk had -7 Kdr for the Major he won it's really fucking obvious who was worse i know Kdr does not mean everything but for fuck sake Fifflaren had -65 more kdr that is easily worse
2020-07-13 04:52
#350
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Argentina XaiDN
Yeah, i think is fiff xd
2020-07-15 02:59
Definitely Devilwalk.
2020-07-13 04:51
nobody will ever win and be as bad as fiffy, not even close lol...
2020-07-13 05:08
+1
2020-07-13 19:54
ikr like when i saw that stat i immediately said ohhhhhh so that's why Nip lost 3/4 Major finals trying to carry Fifflaren
2020-07-14 23:57
literally won 4v5 it's incredible.
2020-07-14 23:58
and it's not just the 4V5 they beat an incredible Fnatic team
2020-07-14 23:59
true the glory days of csgo
2020-07-15 00:05
Low IQ thread Fiffy god
2020-07-13 05:31
Ofc s1mple. Oh wait
2020-07-13 08:09
No one "deserves" to win a major, the best team at an event is the team that deserves to win the major if you don't win one then you don't deserve to win one.
2020-07-13 08:14
i get what you mean but that isnt true in every case, cause there are good player who would have been major winners for sure if they werent in their current teams
2020-07-13 12:12
if they werent in teams, they wouldntve won any events.
2020-07-13 20:35
thats nonsense. "if" x player was in a better team he wouldve won a major. "if" x team had that round they wouldve won the game. U cant use what didnt happen to predict what couldve happened.
2020-07-13 23:32
Coldzera KennyS Zeus Filfarren Devilwalk
2020-07-13 08:30
nice bait
2020-07-13 12:11
#237
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Poland @P3tr@
s1mple, OH wait
2020-07-13 12:15
Worst pro csgo players if they make one team? Maybe: Taz, Mightymax, MSL, Hunden RUSH?
2020-07-13 19:18
Rush / Byali / Xizt / Happy
2020-07-13 20:14
Obvious bait, try again maybe.
2020-07-13 20:43
flusha / forest / smithZz
2020-07-13 23:11
jerman / 8
2020-07-14 05:33
Fifflaren/devilwalk
2020-07-13 20:34
this
2020-07-13 21:41
factor/hobbit
2020-07-13 21:57
tarik.
2020-07-13 21:58
rush
2020-07-13 21:59
zeus
2020-07-13 23:17
AZR: uuh, i think... Simple
2020-07-13 23:22
Sorry but cs is dead and become trash to look matches.
2020-07-13 23:36
nt cs_is_shit
2020-07-13 23:47
zeus
2020-07-13 23:57
your either bating hard or just retarded to the impact Zeus had with Gambit
2020-07-14 23:56
devilwalk ?
2020-07-14 03:16
for reference Devilwalk was like -7 kdr for the major he won Fifflaren was -72 ............... come on man i know KDR is not everything but that stat alone when comparing these 2 has to decide it
2020-07-14 23:56
Pasha
2020-07-14 19:30
Pasha was good for some years
2020-07-15 00:41
Dosia
2020-07-14 19:31
Was fifflaren IGL? My G those are horrible stats. Literal deadweight
2020-07-15 00:31
Yeah he was
2020-07-15 00:41
no he wasnt.
2020-07-15 00:44
He was the igl for sure
2020-07-15 00:45
no he wasnt. that was xizt.
2020-07-15 00:47
EMS One Katowice 2014 was the major Fiff IGL'd, they were expected to win easily and lost to VP, so they didnt let Fiff IGL again =/
2020-07-15 00:52
taco
2020-07-15 00:48
All major winners deserved to win the major. Thats why they won
2020-07-15 00:51
Taco
2020-07-15 00:53
#346
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Russia ToughGuy
Probably someone from 2013 majors cuz it wasnt on the same lvl as nowadays
2020-07-15 01:15
Statistically I think you are correct. My only beef with your post is "worst", he was amazing in 2012/2013... Obviously those who win a major deserve to win a major.
2020-07-15 01:20
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