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Why does cis get 2 legend status
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China Ching69 
Navi is the only team that deserves a legend status from cis. There is no other good teams there :D it should be 4 from europe, 3 from na and 1 from cis
2020-07-10 23:27
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#1
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Netherlands Boutdis
3 from NA? LOL 0 iq
2020-07-10 23:28
#2
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China Ching69
i mean i wouldn't mind 5 from europe but 3 from na is a lot better than 2 from cis
2020-07-10 23:29
#3
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Netherlands Boutdis
watch out for team spirit then mate, would probably beat all the NA teams maybe close games between EG/TL
2020-07-10 23:30
I can count more than 3 eu teams better than team spirit, so it doesnt make sense that eu gets only 3 teams
2020-07-10 23:34
#8
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China Ching69
they have been recently playing against tier 2-3 so dont know about that. Big and navi are only tier 1 teams they have played against recently and they got destroyed
2020-07-10 23:35
not really, two for NA would make more sense
2020-07-11 01:16
can you say 3 CIS teams better than liquid or EG?
2020-07-11 00:10
#37
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Peru TheJuan
NaVi VP Spirit
2020-07-11 00:29
i forgot to say other teams without navi because is obvius but VP and Spirit is a lie jajajaja
2020-07-11 00:35
#51
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United States nenemehta
vp LOL that team hasnt acomplished anything in a LONG time and only have good results in CIS fuckery where nonranked. teams beat best teams. Also, same. for spirit pretty much always losing to eu teams and only beating cis.
2020-07-11 00:43
Because they had 2 legends last major
2020-07-10 23:30
#5
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China Ching69
oh. that's why they have 2. Well i still think they don't deserve 2 rn
2020-07-10 23:32
yeah but that's the problem - last major was in september, valve made all of these RtR tournaments so the Berlin major doesn't matter that much but they kept the spot distribution haha. Avangar was in the finals of the last major, hard to believe but true
2020-07-10 23:35
#11
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China Ching69
Yea.
2020-07-10 23:37
Virtus pro and spirit are actually good teams.They need a lot of practice so everything will be fine
2020-07-10 23:37
#13
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China Ching69
yea. but there are a lot of eu teams that are better than them. so i think cis should get only 1 legend status
2020-07-10 23:40
Yeah but they made the spot distribution based on berlin major, where avangar(now vp) and navi were legends We cant compare regions so they have to use the old spot distribution
2020-07-11 03:22
#65
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China Ching69
yea but i think its just stupid to give spots based on what happened a year ago. but it might be just me
2020-07-11 03:23
They always had many good teams on major. Avangar, winstrike, gambit ...
2020-07-11 10:11
Asia deserve 0 slots for major objectively
2020-07-10 23:36
#12
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China Ching69
i agree :D
2020-07-10 23:37
i believe they deserve 0 legend slots but at least 1 challenger spot
2020-07-11 00:01
#24
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Brazil Arishock
they only get 1 spot as a challenger which is basically the minor.
2020-07-11 00:08
#56
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China Ching69
didnt they get like a contender spot or smth like that
2020-07-11 01:37
#62
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Brazil Arishock
oh yes, i meant contender, it's the equivalent of a minor challenger.
2020-07-11 03:14
They get 2 contenders
2020-07-11 10:37
I thought you were talking about CIS my bad
2020-07-11 14:37
Its miracle asia still gets spots at the major
2020-07-10 23:43
#15
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China Ching69
+1. tyloo occasionally had good runs in some tournaments but other than that what have asian teams achieved.
2020-07-10 23:51
#16
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Russia VelsVivard
Not to seem offensive but who cares what you think how it should be. Underrating has been for years, each time proving foam drooling nerds like you wrong.
2020-07-10 23:55
#17
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China Ching69
angry spirit fan spotted lmao
2020-07-11 00:00
#18
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Pakistan LoOuU2
3 for NA? CIS tier 2 scene is far better than NA's and can equally contest against their Tier 1 too. Also are you really neglicting the history of CIS teams in Majors? That's where they perform the best. CIS teams get shit thrown at them for no reason, they are pretty good
2020-07-11 00:00
#20
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China Ching69
i mean if spirit loses to teams like nemiga and virtus pro i dont think they deserve legend status. i expect legend status team to beat these kind of tier 3 teams.
2020-07-11 00:03
#23
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Pakistan LoOuU2
VP played the final of last Major and won a Blast tournament after that, Nemiga came close to beating NaVi and Gambit Youngsters even managed to beat them! By your logic Gambit Youngsters should be like Tier 0 above Tier 1 since they managed to beat the best CIS team. On what basis or comparison are you regarding Nemiga and VP as tier 3? They would easily run circles around likes of Chaos and Triumph and give a tough fight to Liquid and EG for sure
2020-07-11 00:07
#28
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China Ching69
why does it matter if they almost beat navi if they cant win against teams that are worse than navi?
2020-07-11 00:15
#29
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Pakistan LoOuU2
Mate are you an idiot or something? Why wouldn't it matter if a tier 2 team came close to beating a tier 1 team which basically implies that the tier 2 team has the ability to contest on the same level! Thats pretty simple thing to comprehend. Also they did won against Spirit like you mentioned, which is worse than NaVi, no? You are going against your own claims here mate
2020-07-11 00:18
#32
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China Ching69
spirit and nemiga both struggle against other cis teams so if they cant beat other cis how would they deserve an legend status spot :DDDD
2020-07-11 00:23
#34
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Pakistan LoOuU2
Every CIS team struggles against every other CIS team z that's how their scene has been the whole time. Are you really forgetting that NaVi stuggled and bombed out of the First RMR tournament and nearly got eliminated in the 2nd one as well? By your logic, how is NaVi deserving of a Legend spot when they struggle against other CIS teams too? You don't have the expertise to discuss why CIS deserves more Legends because your comments clearly show you got zero idea of the CIS scene. Watch more of it x then complain about it
2020-07-11 00:26
#40
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China Ching69
you are stupid if you think that spirit or vp deserves legend status more than teams like faze or big.
2020-07-11 00:31
#46
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Pakistan LoOuU2
Lmao I never said they deserve a spot over Faze or BIG, I didn't even said they deserved a spot over any EU team. You pulling out these team names out of your ass in this discussion just like all the other unthought shit you said so far? You are making yourself look like a fool. I only mentioned NA region and their teams for comparison you nincompoop. Idiots like you are half the reason why HLTV forums are a shit hole some times, talking about stuff they don't know shit about and then saying gibberish when they get rekt
2020-07-11 00:36
#48
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China Ching69
like i said before i dont care if na got only 2 legend status spots. im just saying that cis doesnt deserve 2 legend status spots
2020-07-11 00:37
#49
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Pakistan LoOuU2
I just went into a full length discussion and your dumb ass still wouldn't get why. Its like banging my head against a wall but instead it's not a wall but a stupid HLTV user on the other side who has zero sense of the topic he posted and can't think of logically anything else because he is mentally unable to. Just don't talk about stuff you know jackshit about, your foolishness is humorous
2020-07-11 00:40
#52
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China Ching69
cis just dont deserve 2 legend status spots. i can name like 7 na teams that are better than nemiga/spirit/vp. im sorry dude
2020-07-11 00:45
+1
2020-07-11 10:42
Last major 3 NA teams in legend stage EG,Liquid and renegades it's based on that.
2020-07-11 10:26
#76
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Pakistan LoOuU2
Yes I know the slots are according to the teams that made it to the Legends in the last Major but OP's claim that CIS teams are bad enough to not deserve spots is BS
2020-07-11 10:34
Well yes, according to how teams are currently playing NA nd CIS both should have a challenger spot instead of a legends spot and EU should have more legend spot. But it doesn't matter because it depends on last major rhey shouldn't change the rules.
2020-07-11 10:54
Vp and navi got legends at last major
2020-07-11 00:05
#27
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China Ching69
so? renegades qualified to berlin major trough asian minor so shouldn't asia have 1 legend status too if the berlin major matters so much?
2020-07-11 00:10
100 Thieves reside in NA, hence the extra spot for NA
2020-07-11 00:23
#35
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China Ching69
but they didn't back then. If the berlin major matters so much shouldn't asia have 1 legend status. im just trying to say that a lot have changed in a year so we shouldn't give legend status spots based on what happened a year ago.
2020-07-11 00:27
In Berlin
2020-07-11 00:28
TyLoo did not make it to the legends stage
2020-07-11 00:30
Renegades first got Top 8 in Katowice.
2020-07-11 00:33
#43
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China Ching69
oh. im sorry this is my stupidity lmao
2020-07-11 00:35
NP
2020-07-11 00:35
#45
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China Ching69
should have checked my facts more carefully first
2020-07-11 00:35
its ok
2020-07-11 00:36
It is all fair 2 cis vp navi 3 eu ence vitality Astralis 3 na liquid renegade nrg
2020-07-11 01:13
#55
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China Ching69
why they didnt just give legend status spots to rio major for those teams?
2020-07-11 01:33
Do you think vp deserves a spot after over 1 years
2020-07-11 01:40
#58
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China Ching69
no, navi is the only cis that deserves legend spot
2020-07-11 01:47
It’s not about who deserves it It’s about top 8. From last major
2020-07-11 01:56
#60
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China Ching69
yea and thats fucking stupid
2020-07-11 02:02
How else can it be decided
2020-07-11 02:15
i think 0 legends for cis wouldve been the best.
2020-07-11 00:06
0/8
2020-07-11 00:09
#33
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China HEIDASHUAi
0/8
2020-07-11 00:24
+1
2020-07-11 03:39
2 is normal 1 for Navi 2 spirit/vp bcus they play preety good like geng or c9 If they lose against t100 teams like nemiga it's doesn't matter, cis matches is bullshit, simple told like they are retarded they can play normal, they go on strange timings, they haven't normal tactics
2020-07-11 00:19
normal navi tactics are waiting until its 0:10 and failing to take the site.
2020-07-11 00:30
It's working..... sometimes
2020-07-11 09:57
#50
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Denmark nrth_LUL
Because navi played in the top 8 and avangar played the grand final last major.
2020-07-11 00:41
Because a major is like CSGO WorldCup. We do have WESG for CS but that's different. Much lower tier than majors. Major = Top tier pros to low tier pros. WESG = little top tier, mostly low tier pros and even semi-pros. And WESG doesn't pay 100%. I heard that Envy didn't receive winner prize yet.
2020-07-11 03:18
#68
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Turkey TheKaiser
Imo it should be like 4 EU, 2 NA, 1 CIS, 1 SA/BR.
2020-07-11 10:05
#69
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Denmark iLoVeReD
There's 3 for NA anyway, which should've been decreased to 1 at best, there are no better teams than in CIS, but on the same level probably.
2020-07-11 10:09
#70
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Russia anleet
XD China talking about good teams omegakek What can u say about VP or Spirit? Even Gambit Y and Espada is better than any Asian team
2020-07-11 10:10
#71
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Russia anleet
> 3 from NA xd only EG deserves
2020-07-11 10:10
#73
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Liechtenstein 2002GOD
cuz they bots like NA
2020-07-11 10:11
It's based on the last major placements, I think it's pretty fair. If the major happened right now I'd guess that there would be 3-4 EU, 2-3 NA (aka EG/Liquid/MIBR/FURIA, since they all practice from US, same way as CoL would be counted as EU team) and 2 CIS teams. Want more and better slots? Play better at a major.
2020-07-11 10:15
good bait
2020-07-11 10:35
yeah would be nice but on the other hand cis is also fun and has potential.
2020-07-11 14:11
+1
2020-07-11 14:38
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