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blameF | 
Denmark McMuffin 
2300 hours.... I’m in my mid 30’s and play max 2 a week... Seems like they got rid of some cheaters after the ‘Trusted’ update... I red there was 1 out of 10 cheating in MM before that, what a joke and pretty insane CSGO can hold these Numbers with that many cheaters...
2020-07-11 14:27
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2020-07-11 14:28
m8 there arent many cheaters the bigger issue imo is all the new account bullshit smurfs. I want to play for fun and I get a game against some rat getting carried by his friend dropping 40
2020-07-11 14:29
Usually not a smurf though, if ur an experienced player and watch the demo those players look super shady with their silver movement and kennyS awping lmao
2020-07-11 14:34
aproxx 20 k bans every day isn't alot of cheaters?? That's without those that are not caught.... steamdb.info/stats/bans/
2020-07-11 14:37
700000 players a day and not every cheater is instabanned so the 20k aren’t cheating on the same day
2020-07-11 14:50
Still way to much... No discussion there
2020-07-11 14:53
Yes, it's much, but 99% of bans are in non-prime. Filter out the free accounts and it will be much less
2020-07-11 21:42
I mean you will see cheaters, but in most cases it will just be a smurf. Also, trust factor and accounts play a big role in this and the game being free so for all you know most cheaters are playing against themselves. Its an uphill battle and I think Valve have done well fighting it. They bought shit ton of CPUs years ago to help VAC added many things banning people in waves to catch more.
2020-07-11 15:27
+1 I have never cheated and only gotten one 30min ban so my trust factor is high and I encounter a cheater max once a month ... Cheaters play cheaters usually
2020-07-11 15:31
yeah I hope my trust factor is also good its just triggering that I am forced to play against no loyalty badge or only loyalty badge accounts with 200 hours
2020-07-11 17:40
+1 I have never cheated and only gotten one 30min ban so my trust factor is high and I encounter a cheater max once a month ... Cheaters play cheaters usually
2020-07-11 15:31
arent many cheaters main acc 4k hrs: gyazo.com/5058998b9f007cf96a79e4b32ad0f8.. smurf i play with my gn friend: gyazo.com/ba3610330ab2198966aeb1b8dda6d9.. other smurf i play with my even lower rank friends: gyazo.com/aef03c8ecd716b419839803520782c.. mens)))))))))
2020-07-11 14:38
my god.... So sad...
2020-07-11 14:40
U win most of those games?
2020-07-11 14:51
what do ya mean? Link to the csgostats pages: csgostats.gg/player/76561198870390307#/m.. csgostats.gg/player/76561198872494328#/m.. (I only do office games on the first account now ignore these office matches mens))) )
2020-07-11 14:57
#43
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Sweden Lagge15
I do hate smurfs, but hey actually are better opponents than cheaters. They usually play by a pattern that is higher than your rank and you will have to improve to beat them. If you meet a smurf, it isn't about winning the game anymore, it is about improving, learning and play for the rounds instead. Playing against smurfs CAN/MAY make you a better player. That is rarely the case against cheaters. Plus: there are smurfs who sometimes just run around with a deagle or just test out timings. So just rewatch the vods from their POV and take in all the nuggets of knowledge they give you
2020-07-11 19:04
tbh I would agree with you, but in most cases I am playing a match or two of cs just to have fun as getting better for me isnt much of an objective at least for now. Also, I mean for mge I am 10x better off going to practice aim a few hours a day to improve than learning the fundamentals and the correct way to play cs as I solo q most of the time
2020-07-11 19:09
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Sweden Lagge15
Yeah I totally agree. Most months I get about 5-15 maps played. Almost exclusively soloQ I get too many toxic people, cheaters or smurfs. So in that cade they destroy my experience. Yesterday I got a 7 day cooldown ( I have been on max level for about 5 months) because I got kicked for not sticking a defuse without kit with 2 seconds too little on the defuse. This was after I got a 2K B-hold and 1k A retake in a 2v4 scenario with UMP vs Full buy. How can I improve if that happens due to my teammates not getting the fundamentals of the game? The other team had 1 cheater and 1 smurf. Our top fragger usually got 3 or 4k but forgot the bomb on T-side, all had mics but no comms
2020-07-11 19:29
thats the issue with solo queuing, but I mean I just accept it how it is and sometimes there are fun games. Only real way in avoiding this is to find people to play with and just 5 stack (as much as I dislike 5 stack tryhards it is the most fun way to play the game as you can at least know that these people are in someway committed to the match on not some guy who will rage in seconds.)
2020-07-11 19:34
#51
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Sweden Lagge15
I love premades but since I only can play once or twice per session I don't really have time to gather a stack or wait for friends to Finnish their games. I got a discord for it, but everyone seems to just wanna play with me so whenever I get banned or get too busy irl the discord dies.
2020-07-11 19:47
Tell that to the HvH patrol/ESEA staff scum destroying GE ranks in EUN. Using the same, allegedly premium cheat for like months now. DK where my trust at, but I had cheaters 4 times in a row so far. Im not even playing regularly anymore.
2020-07-12 02:11
I get LEM once, played next 3 games against spinbot users and deleted fucking game for two years
2020-07-11 14:32
lul pretty unlucky :D
2020-07-11 14:35
i have only seen spinbot 3 times, 2 of them in wingman and one of them in my team in mm. we won 16-1 ez
2020-07-11 14:47
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SpawN | 
Netherlands ONGix
Nice man I was the same last year then I got to GE pretty easy and quit since :)
2020-07-11 14:38
How many hours? .... Why quit?
2020-07-11 14:40
#11
SpawN | 
Netherlands ONGix
Same about 2000~ and basically because I became to busy and playing once a week on those level is not very fun :(
2020-07-11 14:41
I actually play best while drinking beer. That's also why i don't play more often... :D It's best like this i get depressed if i spend to much time on PC...
2020-07-11 14:47
#12
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Sri Lanka khorkalba
I think the decrease in cheaters is temporary and largely due to cheaters being a bit paranoid and cautious. Most cheats can bypass Trusted mode.
2020-07-11 14:45
Yeah, true... especially after like a month or so... Most cheats will just be addapted to the new patch... But it's sad for such a good game and Valve should be able counter this better with the ammount of money they sit on
2020-07-11 14:51
#21
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Sri Lanka khorkalba
Said it many times before, but I think trying to stop cheaters with any kind of anti-cheat is a losing battle. Instead, Valve should look at the reasons why so many people choose to cheat. I think a big one is skill groups. They serve a useful purpose in matching players who are of a similar level, but when you tell players what skill group they're in and give them shiny badges to chase, that encourages cheating. I also think the community should have more power to get suspected cheaters banned temporarily (not permanently because of the risk of false positives). The current overwatch / reporting system clearly isn't working as well as it should be. What I would do is make reports carry a lot more weight so that it only takes a couple on the same day to send someone to overwatch, and five during the same day to issue a temporary ban + overwatch. To prevent this system being abused, I would limit the number of times players can report someone during a week and take away the reporting privilege from players who have a high % of reporting people who don't end up with an overwatch conviction.
2020-07-11 15:06
Yeah, i agree on most parts of this... The trust factor system just wasn't good enough... It's too easy to get low trust factor because people just rage report u if u get smoke kills or just being lucky...
2020-07-11 15:11
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Portugal hybridz
+1 if u get lucky and spam a smoke and get a kill players will rage report , and then u are fvcked because your trust factor will decrease
2020-07-11 15:22
Facts cheat programmers will be incentivized to make a cheat not directed by trusted cause everyone who cheats would buy
2020-07-11 16:29
let's be honest, 2016-2017 year's mg2 = 2020 lem
2020-07-11 14:52
#23
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Sri Lanka khorkalba
LEMs are better now than they were in 2016 in my opinion. More of them seem to have a better understanding of utility usage, and they're able to hold their own more when matched with Supremes / Globals.
2020-07-11 15:18
no they are not, i am playing cs:go since 2014 and mm players are trash i remember when globals were globals not 2016's dmg's like today also every lem is barely lvl3-4 faceit so yeah they suck
2020-07-11 16:10
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Sri Lanka khorkalba
Maybe players seemed better back in 2014 because you were worse at the game back then and have improved since? MM was at its absolute worst in 2015. You had DMG noobs reaching Global just by picking the pre-nerfed AWP + CZ combo. You had smurfs running rampant at every rank. And nobody below Supreme rank really understood even the basic smokes.
2020-07-11 16:18
Not true. I was supreme in 2018, now I'm LEM in 2020, but I used to play even worse
2020-07-11 16:18
that's the year when all the bots got higher ranks than they usually were
2020-07-11 16:19
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2020-07-11 16:22
+1 what's your faceit lvl? proof with link Edit: best mm games you could have was at 2014-2016 where globals were true lvl10 players
2020-07-11 18:16
I dont think my faceit lvl is relevant to this question, but I am level 5 (highest was level 6), but today more globals are playing faceit than 2016, thats why there is still a skill gap between lvl5 globals and lvl10 globals. 2020 Global > 2016 Global
2020-07-11 18:22
now everything is clear, my brother is 16 y.o he is dmg and lvl5 faceit and he don't know smokes and stuff he just plays for fun lvl5 = noob hole
2020-07-11 19:09
ok autism
2020-07-11 20:40
ok lem and lvl5 faceit
2020-07-12 01:55
#53
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Greece CMi_
faceit is unplayable if you are under lvl5. every game theres a Toxic guy, a bot and a mic spammer. so yeah unless u drop 30 frags a game i doubt u can get out of there
2020-07-11 20:49
congrats mate I am 1350 hrs and MGE, so I can still break your record :P (but i am not playing since a year and will not till next 6 months though)
2020-07-11 15:22
#29
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Portugal xxxruixxx
Played against a cheater yesterday on wingman. Even his teammate was complaining and left. So.. no... the new update didn`t change anything (and it was already hacked by cheating programs a few hours later). Anyway.. congrats for getting to LEM - and I hope you continue to improve.. I am a bit older than you and was SMFC (lost my rank because I haven`t played MM for more than a month).
2020-07-11 15:37
#30
ropz | 
Germany lor3nz
good job just keep grinding
2020-07-11 15:38
at this points is better to just stop playing, you're garbage.
2020-07-11 16:22
first wingman match after update both enemies with wallhack and triggerbot unlucky me
2020-07-11 18:26
#42
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Sweden Lagge15
Nice try. You know all HLTV users are GE
2020-07-11 19:00
nice
2020-07-11 19:31
#48
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United States TrashPanda
Good job dude. What’s worse than the cheaters for people in lower ranks are the shit head smurfs imo. Don’t really understand why smurfing is so prevalent.
2020-07-11 19:34
#50
alex | 
Spain mokerz
dude stop playing mm and go faceit
2020-07-11 19:35
Now make it to GE and you will get the pleasure of playing against "HvH patrol"/"ESEA staff"(these lowlife fucks have been reported hundreds of times and theyre still not banned.) group members and tons of other cancerous cheaters :) EU MM @ GE is a joke, especially if youre playing at "odd" times.
2020-07-12 02:07
play faceit, less cheaters
2020-07-12 02:13
Bad joke or what? After the trust update i think there are more people playing with cheats. Everyday i have atleast 2 games with steam 0 profile and private profile using wallhack or aimlock at its finest. Volvo is miles behind the cheat problem
2020-07-12 02:14
Serious question for OP mostly unrelated: I'm approaching my 30s and I love CS with some heavy passion, I used to have high ranks back in the day like in my teens and early 20s but even when I make time for the game I feel like I can't perform the way I used to. Any tips for older players to get back to LEM
2020-07-12 02:19
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