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Players who deserve to win Major, but haven't
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Lithuania Edze 
s1mple GuardiaN NiKo EliGE karrigan allu seized Hiko Anyone else?
2020-07-11 22:05
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2020-07-11 22:07
why -1 niko lol
2020-07-11 22:09
FaZe lost major because NiKo got cocky,source:GuardiaN clip
2020-07-11 22:11
#20
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North America Gc_29
not true at all if anything he said "but that's no one to blame, its not karrigans fault or nikos or mine or anyone's, you know we are all human beings"
2020-07-11 22:20
He said on one of the streams that Niko called something when he shouldnt and also karrigan panicked. Not blaming them tho.
2020-07-12 00:30
#47
Dosia | 
North America Gc_29
ok idk why u tell me this
2020-07-12 00:32
"not true at all"
2020-07-12 00:33
#49
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North America Gc_29
"niko got cocky"
2020-07-12 00:34
karrigan picked op instead of cache?
2020-07-12 01:25
pre sure map picking is a team-decision and also FaZe were good asf on overpass leading up to the grand finals
2020-07-12 10:55
They hadn't played OP for a month and im pretty sure that the IGL has the biggest say in map picks
2020-07-12 16:56
#190
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Netherlands Titanos
nah, team effort rather than IGL
2020-07-12 23:50
they had beaten C9 like 4 times in a row on it, it was definitely a good pick
2020-07-13 05:38
can i get a clip pls?
2020-07-11 22:21
#83
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Italy alastt27
karrigan sucks, no skill he's a bad player so he doesn't deserve
2020-07-12 03:50
Hope ur just another baiting navi fan lmao
2020-07-12 11:48
+1
2020-07-12 17:12
#195
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Italy alastt27
no)) just facts, even as igl he sucks
2020-07-13 03:27
Do u have the clip?
2020-07-13 08:06
People like that don't deserve to win majors
2020-07-12 04:01
+8
2020-07-12 00:19
Agree 100%
2020-07-12 00:20
#40
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Finland Lupuu
Why -1 allu Why -1 hiko
2020-07-12 00:33
I think it's because they are not insane players so it's acceptable that they haven't win a major
2020-07-12 00:47
Wasnt Hiko really good though back then? I mean from what I have heard he used to be one of the best sprayers. Id say he deserves it after getting slapped by Luminosity twice.
2020-07-12 01:10
Maybe nivera_top1 doesn't know that
2020-07-12 10:16
#74
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Switzerland Jeded
Allu has been a consistent top 10 sniper for years now. He reached 2 major finals where in those majors he was one of the best players in the team.
2020-07-12 01:17
+1 people don't build their arguments with facts. They are blind sheep whose opinions are based on their feelings and stuff that someone else have said.
2020-07-12 16:58
+1
2020-07-12 00:34
+1
2020-07-12 04:02
-1 flag checks out, insecure onlinw0o bandwagon
2020-07-12 16:49
You are using EU flag calling me insecure?
2020-07-12 17:14
yOu aRe uSiNg eU fLaG Whine louder, insecure onlinew0o bandwagon
2020-07-12 23:49
Whats life like in poverty?
2020-07-12 23:51
Idk never lives at Belgium
2020-07-13 10:13
-1 for niko and S1mple, 2 of greatest CS players ever... expected from a ZywOo fan boy
2020-07-12 22:13
Belgian flag = zywoo fan?
2020-07-12 22:56
#2
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Argentina druwugs
Golden, Brollan
2020-07-11 22:07
#3
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Lithuania Edze
Brollan is still young, he will probably will win
2020-07-11 22:08
Fnatic needs a roster change -trashW +an aggressive real awper.
2020-07-13 08:11
flamie ScreaM Ex6TenZ cajunb Rain That's all I can think of rn
2020-07-11 22:09
One trick one braincell scream?no way Rest agree totally
2020-07-12 00:22
scream was one of the best players in 2016 and 2013. He deserves a major
2020-07-12 16:13
#192
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Netherlands Titanos
He definitely was not one of the best players, not even CLOSE to the top20
2020-07-12 23:52
hltv.org/player/7390/ScreaM Are you braindead?
2020-07-13 00:07
I think Cajun is just a little too bad. He just needed a little more
2020-07-12 15:54
#6
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Brazil TabzeN
TACO
2020-07-11 22:10
are you dumb?no offense
2020-07-12 01:49
TACO won two majors?
2020-07-13 10:18
#7
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Serbia Aco_
draken
2020-07-11 22:10
Why draken?
2020-07-13 10:18
Guardian sure, rest nah Elige maybe but NA too bad, they shouldnt even have 1 major. edit: JW and gang deserve another major (frenchies stole theirs)
2020-07-11 22:13
Frenchies were better lul
2020-07-12 00:48
Sure, they were better for crying to the admins after losing the bo3 lol.
2020-07-12 00:56
13-6 before boost
2020-07-12 10:56
No it was 13-3 before boost
2020-07-12 15:55
Even worst, ldlc deserved to win
2020-07-12 16:53
Yeah, and it was 12-3 half so they just won pistol round.
2020-07-12 16:58
In sports, if someone breaks the rules it's natural that you'd be angry. In CS Admins first take action after the game (Unless it's cheating malware). In Football/Soccer it's always what the jury says, no matter what. That doesn't mean it's not justified to be angry when you loose because of a cheater - England vs Argentina (Maradona infamous clip with "Gods hand") first you cheat and then make fun of them. It's natural to be angry
2020-07-12 15:57
Frenchies used an illegal boost too so get a dildo out your ass
2020-07-12 10:38
not taking sides or anything but fnatic repeatedly used their pixel boost and ldlc used their inferior boost once tmk (wasn't even a pixel boost)
2020-07-12 11:03
both were deemed illegal due to a texture bug, the pixel boost aspect was seen as legal though both boosts abused a texture bug. Which is why the final call was replay the entire map rather than replay the half
2020-07-13 05:22
yes but I'm talking about the fact that ldlc's boost was way more shit lmao
2020-07-13 07:33
Yes, but my reply was to the guy flonting that ldlc was better while both teams broke a rule and ldlc still stands as the only team to win a major after being officially eliminated
2020-07-13 07:57
stfu ldlc robbed fnatic vs NiP final. ldlc didn't deserve.
2020-07-12 10:57
Ldlc won against nip how could they dont deserve ?? Latvian logic
2020-07-13 17:44
ldlc robbed Fnatic vs NiP final. they didn't deserve you baguette!!
2020-07-13 19:57
Well fnatic may win another one....the core isnt even that old and superunpredictable....although jw would propably throw hard
2020-07-12 11:50
Yeah, they can for sure win another one, but they should already have another under their belt :)
2020-07-12 17:10
tabsen xantares tizian syrson k1to
2020-07-11 22:12
U know majors are on lan right?
2020-07-11 22:23
hahahah lul
2020-07-12 00:20
U know no portugees ppl will ever be mentioned here?
2020-07-12 00:23
yes
2020-07-12 00:28
#90
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United States Hindy
lollllllll +11111111
2020-07-12 05:02
#134
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Europe cyes
lmao go support dignitas saw whatever
2020-07-12 15:49
#11
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Argentina ReacC
Me
2020-07-11 22:12
It's actually so sad that GuardiaN never managed to win a major
2020-07-11 22:12
especially Cluj-Nacopa he was playing out of his mind
2020-07-12 00:53
+1 got quite hard to watch at the end
2020-07-12 03:57
scream PepeHands
2020-07-11 22:12
#14
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Portugal NabasKi
If you didn't get them, you didn't deserve them.
2020-07-11 22:13
no? team could be trash
2020-07-11 22:18
#57
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Sweden Majlo_
Those players are still part of those teams. Either try get into a "better" team, or improve with the entire team as a team instead of only being individually good. Anyone who deserves to win a competition will win said competition (not counting cheaters) and if you never win the competition, then you 99% didn't deserve to win.
2020-07-12 00:52
Guardian case was different,he def deserved boston major in 2018,niko maybe but Guardian def deserved
2020-07-12 09:57
#129
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Sweden Majlo_
If he deserved it in 2018, he would've won it in 2018 (unless you're claiming foul play from opposing team).
2020-07-12 12:40
lol i understand what are you trying to say,im only saying that guardian was playing out of his mind on boston major,and if u want to see what actually happened there is his clip explaining that on 15 11 they got overzealous and wanted to win fast ,which was their downfall
2020-07-12 15:49
If s1mple gets a 1.50+ rating vs Mouz does he deserve to lose?
2020-07-12 16:17
#159
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Sweden Majlo_
One good player in a 5 man team game and only one guy does good, then yes, he deserves to lose with his team.
2020-07-12 16:56
Wrong. His teammates deserve to lose however the person deserves to win. The definition of deserve: "do something or have or show qualities worthy of" If he gets a 1.50 rating how is he not worthy of winning? Because of something that isn't in his control like terrible teammates? An individual can deserve to win but his teammates don't deserve to win. If he gets an absurdly high rating and is the reason why his team can even compete, he is definitely worthy of winning.
2020-07-12 17:02
#169
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Bulgaria goshyy
+1 this Majlo guy is dumb af lmao
2020-07-12 17:11
"Either try get into a "better" team, or improve with the entire team as a team instead of only being individually good." First point is mute when you realise players like Guardian and NiKo are from regions where there wasn't really a scene so communication can be a problem. You can't say "just try and get into a better team". What if s1mple was to carry his team to the number 2 spot in the world which happened in 2018? Why would s1mple either: 1. Join Astralis (wtf?) 2. Join a lower ranked team and take a chance on communication and comfort? Your 2nd point is stupid too because strategy can only get you so far when you can't actually click heads which is what players like Edward, Zeus and Flamie (recently), Chrisj, Karrigan, Olofm (recently), Bymas, etc have been terrible at doing. Your execution can be top-notch but firepower can lack and you will lose because simply the enemy can just out-duel you. I'm not saying FaZe lacked firepower but when they needed it most where was NiKo or Rain? At that moment they lacked the individual brilliance that FaZe was known for however it's not to say that those players don't deserve majors. It was just the pressure of the moment or an extreme-off day for them. We know players who have won majors with far less skill and teamplay and bring less to the team like Fifflaren. I'd be caught dead if you said that he deserves to win a major and NiKo, Guardian, S1mple don't.
2020-07-12 17:21
C9 won that major, but they dont deserve it at all
2020-07-13 07:59
I agree with you except if it's a World Cup. Can't really blame Aubameyang for not winning with Gabon.
2020-07-12 15:59
I have to disagree because Guardian could've won the eleague boston major in 2018, he was playing rlly well( at least agaisnt cloud9) yet the rest of his team choked
2020-07-11 22:27
#15
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Slovenia Quicker007
Zywho?
2020-07-11 22:13
cajunb karrigan s1mple seized scream niko guardian allu dennis edward
2020-07-11 22:16
#38
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Finland Lupuu
s1mple LUL
2020-07-12 00:22
Why not lul
2020-07-12 04:57
#17
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Sri Lanka khorkalba
Karrigan? Seized? Fuck off with those overrated BOTs.
2020-07-11 22:18
+1 Karrigan biggest bot of all time lmao
2020-07-11 22:26
#28
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Sri Lanka khorkalba
How embarrassing can it be to not only fail with the greatest core of all-time (Astralis) but also the first true superteam (FaZe)? And now he's failing again with one of the best international lineups we've seen (Mousesports). It boggles the mind how he's still rated so highly as an IGL.
2020-07-11 22:30
You are so right man. I agree with you to 100% He just ruin every team he is in, very sad.
2020-07-11 22:37
#66
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African Union fgxnNn
Not sure bad bait or low iq? There is a reason org's kept signing this guy
2020-07-12 01:04
#77
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Portugal dracø
He builds them up to be good teams before ruining them tho.
2020-07-12 01:32
Im gonna argue that the true core of Astralis is gla1ve, device, xyp9x
2020-07-12 17:03
Karrigan made 3 completely different lineups top contenders,2 of them were top1 for some time and won several tournaments.Can you tell me someone else that did something similar? He is one of the best team builders in history(probably the best)
2020-07-12 10:23
you're right.
2020-07-12 10:52
"Karrigan made" I cant take it serious from there already, Karrigan is not doing a shit in the making of the team, process is: orgs pay/ players train/ coaches train them/ all of the players together builts the team, all karrigan does is midround calls thats it. And they always are shit. Imagine u have top 10 best players in your team and cant do shit in 3 different teams, hes bot.
2020-07-12 11:13
Thats why faze were complete shit after he left, even tho they had top players? This is some serious 0/8bait. U are right about the org making decision about which players they get, however, the teamplay and chemistry drpends on the lineup. And we all saw how faze ended up after karrigan left
2020-07-13 08:16
haha its not about faze getting worse without karrigan its literally faze picking 2 young bots like bymas and broky. Ofcourse both of them are worse than karrigan cuz they are tier 5 players and karrigan tier 3-4. If they picked any decent player from PRO level they would win few majors at least. karrigan even tho is bot > bymas/broky.
2020-07-13 11:22
#144
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Lithuania Edze
I'm talking about 2015 when he was good player, and not now, in 2015 he was ranked top #16 or smtgh best player in world, but he lost in major grand final
2020-07-12 16:03
Oskar Styko Rpk Electronic TabseN K0nfig
2020-07-11 22:20
wait wtf RPK never won a major? Thats so depressing :(
2020-07-12 01:11
Yeah thats why i put him on the list
2020-07-12 12:34
#21
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Germany Alibaba!
No one of them besides allu & GuardiaN.
2020-07-11 22:21
#33
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Finland Lupuu
+1
2020-07-12 00:19
seized? the player who is literally known as the decoy?
2020-07-11 22:23
he was good for a long time
2020-07-12 00:26
just wondering but why do people always call seized decoy? Is it because hes always playing as bait?
2020-07-12 01:12
Nah he was just terrible towards the end of his time in Navi so people started calling him a decoy (he made shooting sounds but didn't kill anyone)
2020-07-12 01:38
I mean tbf the seized clips Ive seen hes whiffing with his m4a1s lmao
2020-07-12 15:48
#78
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Portugal dracø
Seized was really consistent before picking up the IGL role. That shit ruined his career.
2020-07-12 01:34
#25
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Croatia nAmeless69
FaZe Boston lineup probably + few other mentions
2020-07-11 22:26
Only guardiaN deserved the Major the rest was choking in the finals
2020-07-11 22:33
Choko and Botigan did not deserve it Olof, Rain and especially Guardian did.
2020-07-12 10:47
NiKo was the highest rated player in the last map btw
2020-07-12 16:18
Imo only hiko, GuardiaN and maybe Edward deserve a major
2020-07-11 22:36
#32
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Finland Lupuu
allu as well
2020-07-12 00:17
well at least edward had 1.6 majors I guess :(
2020-07-12 10:42
+1 gob b and cyx also had 1.6 major
2020-07-12 11:23
+gobb +cyx +guardian +existence +karrigan +flamie +chrisj +tabsen +rpk
2020-07-12 00:26
Rip cyx *-*
2020-07-12 00:44
Ex6tenz , not existence :D Btw + scream
2020-07-12 01:08
rest in peace cyx. i agree with this list. very good list.
2020-07-12 10:51
Allu Sergej Sunny Xseven Aerial
2020-07-12 00:26
#45
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Finland Lupuu
+1 EZ4ENCE
2020-07-12 00:28
#115
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Finland 5way
+1
2020-07-12 11:00
GuardiaN at Boston Major 2018, Old Vp at 2017 atlanta. I wished they got the major.
2020-07-12 00:41
Cloud9 where just better sadly
2020-07-12 17:45
Cs is a team based game, no matter how good u r playing individually if ur team isnt doing better than the opponent as a whole u wont win trophies. If all the guys u listed "deserved" a major they wouldve won one. Simple as that.
2020-07-12 00:44
#58
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Sweden Majlo_
+1
2020-07-12 00:52
#79
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Portugal dracø
+1
2020-07-12 01:35
-1
2020-07-12 01:41
+1 to greta
2020-07-12 10:42
-1
2020-07-12 16:51
#56
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Latvia 4swen4
Electronic, tabsen, niko
2020-07-12 00:50
hunden
2020-07-12 00:53
hunden won all the majors.
2020-07-12 15:55
seized lul
2020-07-12 00:55
#62
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Ireland Sodaking
Majors that have happened have also shown why Majors are not the sole thing ranking players some pure Bots have won Majors in the past because they got carried by great players like Fifflaren on Nip Rush on Cloud 9
2020-07-12 00:55
#63
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Russia win73ry
dennis.
2020-07-12 00:55
#65
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Finland Jupe_
Guardian s1mple Karrigan Rain NiKo ELiGE Zywoo Aleksib Allu ChrisJ Electronic Edward
2020-07-12 00:56
Aleksib overrated af ENCE could've kept him and they would'vee still dropped oit of the top10
2020-07-12 10:41
#68
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Ireland Sodaking
i agree with all but Aleksib because Ence were the biggest Fluke team since Cloud9 and Allu deserved his Major with Faze back in the day when the broken hitboxes robbed him of a major
2020-07-12 01:09
That was with nip not faze
2020-07-12 17:42
krystal
2020-07-12 01:09
"Seized" Why would this twofaced boi deserve win a major?
2020-07-12 01:12
Golden, jks
2020-07-12 01:25
K0nfig dude
2020-07-12 03:51
chrisJ, mouz were rolling in the beginning of the year then covid decided to fuck everyone
2020-07-12 03:55
#105
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Denmark dyinbyran
+1 Yes i still remember the 1v5 against navi by chrisJ
2020-07-12 10:49
Not s1mple
2020-07-12 10:40
ScreaM in 2016
2020-07-12 10:40
+1 for allu Hitboxes robbed the guy of the major
2020-07-12 10:42
+1 fnatic won the dust 2 because of luck. fucking fnatic are faggots. NiP deserved Katowice 2015. youtu.be/iSqxzRtwi80?t=4669
2020-07-12 10:50
+1
2020-07-12 17:24
allu got csgo'd
2020-07-12 17:25
+1 and volvo didn't repeat that match.
2020-07-12 17:30
but mibr has little inconvinience and whole fucking tournament needs restart...smh
2020-07-12 17:32
xaxaxaxaxaxaxaxaxaxa
2020-07-12 17:40
stopped reading at s1mple. Only plays for stat, doesnt even care about winning.
2020-07-12 10:45
+1 that's why he will never win a major.
2020-07-12 10:49
#104
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Denmark dyinbyran
s1mple GuardiaN NiKo EliGE karrigan allu Zywoo(he is new but he was really good last year maybe if he was in a team like astralis he could have won last year)
2020-07-12 10:49
s1mple GuardiaN Karrigan EliGE electronic rain
2020-07-12 10:52
Allu, Siezed and Hiko I don't agree with but the rest I do agree with. I don't really like NiKo, so I don't care for him (though I think he deserved the Major win at Boston)
2020-07-12 10:53
#114
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Portugal snoozevlc
Leaf 100%
2020-07-12 10:58
s1mple 0/8. He could try getting above 0.6 rating in the finals. GuardiaN. 8/8 Might be the player in history that deserved a .ajor the most but never got one. NiKo 0/8. His only real chances was the majors in 2018. Boston no comments needed (choko). London he was unlucky to meet GOATs while his ego took over. Had he beat astralis maybe faze could've won the major. EliGE 8/8. No comments needed. A great example of a player performing when his team is choking. karrigan 0/8 funny how his teams even before FaZe had a reputation for choking big matches. Also quite the coincidence that Astralis won their first major just 4 months after he was rightfully kicked. Lets not even talk about the FaZe cloud9 match. (Worst IGL performance in a history of a pro match. Should've been kicked right after this shitshow and maybe device could've had 6 majors. hltv.org/matches/2298973/tsm-vs-nip-drea.. allu with NiP yes, but just 0/8 if you think ENCE deserved one. seized 8/8 did deserve one with Guardian but it was over for him when he took IGL role (wasn't good at it) and his entire career was done when s0mple joined. Hiko 0/8 NA Bot. He had 1 final and he played almost as bad as p0mple. Have fun in Valorant, fatty.
2020-07-12 11:07
#145
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Lithuania Edze
s1mple from ur name i can tell u hate him for no reason, or maybe cuz dev1ce was 2nd 2018? NiKo if he was in better team 2016-17 he really had good chances to win major karrigan not even gonna talk about this one, just watch more cs pls allu yes whit nip 2015 Hiko i dont get it, you hate because hes fat or play valorant?
2020-07-12 16:09
allu? are u delusional?
2020-07-12 11:14
#122
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Finland Lupuu
? Allu is really good
2020-07-12 11:37
-8/8
2020-07-12 11:38
#124
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Finland Lupuu
Why?
2020-07-12 11:39
cuz he is so inconsistent
2020-07-12 14:16
#131
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Finland Lupuu
Wdym he is carrying Ence
2020-07-12 15:32
0/8
2020-07-12 22:27
#120
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United Kingdom Easyyyyy
Hopefully BIG players prove people wrong and win a Major during LAN !
2020-07-12 11:19
jampii
2020-07-12 11:41
Players who deserve to win Major, but haven't: 1. 2.
2020-07-12 15:53
stopped reading at karrigan allu seized
2020-07-12 15:53
#146
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Lithuania Edze
How they don't, explain me pls
2020-07-12 16:10
all 3 are bots
2020-07-12 16:43
#152
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Lithuania Edze
No wonder u registered in 2020
2020-07-12 16:48
this is my main acc - hltv.org/profile/398083/trickk, i just cant restore my password
2020-07-12 16:54
#158
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Lithuania Edze
So u registered in 2012 and think seized and allu in 2015 didnt deserve to win major? And think it was karrigans fault why they lost boston?
2020-07-12 16:56
overall they are not good players and dont perform well stably, thats why i think they dont deserve a major unlike guardian and Niko for instance
2020-07-12 16:57
Finn and Allu ok, but seized why?
2020-07-13 07:54
elige doesnt deserve a major.
2020-07-12 15:57
s1mple yes GuardiaN yes NiKo yes EliGE yes karrigan yes allu Katowice 2015 yes seized no Hiko yes
2020-07-12 16:18
Aleksib
2020-07-12 17:04
Edward
2020-07-12 17:08
bntet
2020-07-12 17:27
#178
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Denmark Dust_2_Go
cajunb when he was with Astralis/TSM He was a flexible fragger Who could awp aswell +thooorin had him in a top 10 video for player Who have not won a a major
2020-07-12 17:35
#184
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Portugal Ames69
fox 4 sure
2020-07-12 22:23
nope, s0mple no major for ages, because: -toxic -baiter -racista (dont like jermens) -cheater in 1.6 and still not banned
2020-07-12 22:28
#188
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Slovakia weedko222
ropz
2020-07-12 23:05
Why do these serial losers deserve a major according to you? Hope this helps
2020-07-12 23:55
lose because of heavy teammates
2020-07-13 10:26
After that C9 and gambit win its kinda lost it's prestigious status.
2020-07-13 07:53
#204
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Georgia Megobari
GuardiaN
2020-07-13 07:58
s1mple -1 GuardiaN +1 NiKo+1 EliGE +1 karrigan +1 allu -1 seized -1 Hiko +1
2020-07-13 08:03
those +rain +2019 Liquid (full roster)
2020-07-13 08:18
Jame
2020-07-13 10:20
only Guardian, and maybe Elige
2020-07-13 10:24
+1 besides allu and seized
2020-07-13 10:24
forZe
1.55
Nordavind
2.40
Syman
3.42
Tikitakan
1.31
Ground Zero
2.75
Rooster
1.43
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