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THE HECKING GDP
2020-07-12 00:46
why are all the good race threads getting deleted
2020-07-12 00:46
Ikr 3 of my threads got deleted in 1 day lol They're not breaking any rules
2020-07-12 00:48
2020-07-12 15:26
axaxaxaxaxaxa
2020-07-12 22:12
#138
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France Chim0ng0
Nowadays everything is getting deleted even the threads that don’t break any rules, hltv has became boring as hell
2020-07-12 16:01
#3
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Slovakia bad_at_life
indians are just scamming old people lul
2020-07-12 00:47
Ello yor fhone hez vajrus, just gib me yor benk akkount to fix denkyu.
2020-07-12 00:59
Denk yu verry much sir!
2020-07-12 13:50
com agan!
2020-07-12 22:10
I think you should go to northern California and see if that's true
2020-07-12 01:03
Indians are studying in their country and then coming to US to lead biggest giants.
2020-07-12 13:40
Now go look up the ratio of Indians to Black people in the U.S.
2020-07-12 00:47
fuck diversity
2020-07-12 00:47
Flag
2020-07-12 01:01
usa diversity is pretty disgusting ngl
2020-07-12 01:05
Did you even read the links?
2020-07-12 01:07
#44
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Ukraine volod1m1r
how can one read the links, is this strongly american ability 0.0 I agree with polish flag, diversity is shit when it comes to the US. blm is the proof, who cares of data taken out of context. Maybe because of you "Most Immigrants Outpace Americans"
2020-07-12 13:26
#55
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Belgium lil_vodka
+1
2020-07-12 13:46
You are a literal anti-intellectual lmao.
2020-07-12 14:39
#79
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Ukraine volod1m1r
Real intellectuals go prove something on HLTV? lmao man. Maybe you should hate OP and not me for pointing things out
2020-07-12 15:00
When there are alot of borderline neo-nazis in HLTV, then yeah, spreading a message that is scientifically backed that goes against their OBVIOUS hate towards brown ppl is a good thing. Op isn't saying diversity is good, SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE is saying that, and opposing it is literally anti-intellectual.
2020-07-12 15:07
What evidence? Can you source it?
2020-07-12 15:10
Evidence for neo nazis on HLTV? I'm sorry I haven't contacted some researcher to do research on HLTV on whether or not it's a white supremacist site, but just looking at the comments that are against diversity says alot lmao. And the DAILY posts about how bad borwn ppl and gays are.
2020-07-12 15:12
'Op isn't saying diversity is good, SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE is saying that' What evidence? Can you cite the scientific, peer reviewed articles?
2020-07-12 15:15
usnews.com/news/national-news/articles/2.. It's right in front of your face buddy.
2020-07-12 15:18
What exactly does this article prove? Also, it's a news piece, not a peer reviewed, scientific article.
2020-07-12 15:19
It's a news article talking about scientific research....
2020-07-12 15:22
Can you cite specific scientific articles and establish what 'good' you mean specifically when it comes to diversity? You are very vague.
2020-07-12 15:24
#93
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Ukraine volod1m1r
"SCIENTIFIC EVIDENCE" can you please explain how the OP's site contribute to the idea of his topic title?
2020-07-12 15:13
usnews.com/news/national-news/articles/2.. Immigrants contributing to the economy more than natives for example?
2020-07-12 15:16
#100
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Ukraine volod1m1r
because there are way more immigrants than native americans? Also immigrants include white people from eu, eastern europe and asia
2020-07-12 15:17
Where did I say immigrants are only brown??
2020-07-12 15:18
#108
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Ukraine volod1m1r
The sources OP shared are not saying diversity is good, they are saying that in NOWADAYS times immigrants are more successful than Americans. Americans that consist of low-tier black students.
2020-07-12 15:21
Ok now you seem retarded
2020-07-12 15:29
#62
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Lithuania rigb0ne
none of those links prove anything
2020-07-12 13:59
So why are you crying that White Americans benefit somehow the most from the system?
2020-07-12 00:48
the blacks are
2020-07-12 00:49
Because they're brainwashed
2020-07-12 00:49
#37
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Serbia embru
because they do? east asians and indians are rich immigrants that come to america rich pursuing high education? white people that constitute majority of the USA have been historically oppressive against blacks ( and asians ) and the centuries of opression have led to consequences that can be seen today
2020-07-12 13:05
Indians rich immigrants? Holy shit buddy you might want to check in to the real world xD
2020-07-12 13:22
Oh no Indiams study in their country and then come to the US .......TO LEAD THE GIANTS.
2020-07-12 13:41
#59
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Serbia embru
Indian Americans continuously outpace every other ethnic group socioeconomically per U.S. Census statistics. Thomas Friedman, in his 2005 book The World Is Flat, explains this trend in terms of brain drain, whereby a sample of the best and brightest elements in India emigrate to the US in order to seek better financial opportunities. Indians form the second largest group of physicians after non-Hispanic whites (3.9%) as of the 1990 survey, and the percentage of Indian physicians rose to around 6% in 2005. By far they are the richest and most successful ethnic group in the USA due to many factors including relatively low wages for highly skilled workers in India which creates an incentive for highly skilled Indians to immigrate.
2020-07-12 13:51
also very successful in UK
2020-07-12 14:51
#45
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Ukraine volod1m1r
whites built the country, they have the right and ability to be superior. This is what we see and will see, im sorry, but blacks have no rights it is true, and they will never have the same opportunity.
2020-07-12 13:28
#63
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Lithuania rigb0ne
+1
2020-07-12 13:59
Whites built the country on the backs of the blacks, so no you are incorrect.
2020-07-12 14:40
#80
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Ukraine volod1m1r
yeah, especially the North. You are wrong
2020-07-12 15:01
Yes, because the north is the entire USA. businessinsider.com/american-landmarks-t.. Here are some of the things slaves built in america, not only that, but white slave owners profited off of the backs of the blacks that were on the field.
2020-07-12 15:09
#91
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Ukraine volod1m1r
15 things that were built by blacks, cool. Are there a total of 15 things in the US? There are way more things that were built why whites, also their system, education, trade came from white Europe. Cant deny that whites built the United States
2020-07-12 15:12
Oh i'm sorry I didn't list ALL of the things african americans did for america in the early stages. Saying "whites built america" is factually incorrect. And btw the system that they built is a racist one, again, has been proven extensively by research.
2020-07-12 15:14
#95
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Ukraine volod1m1r
well if the system they live in is racist, then it is white obviously. Ha-ha-ha-ha
2020-07-12 15:15
Not necessarily, it has been shown that even black prosecutors sentence black ppl for longer times than whites, when everything is accounted for. And the system being racist against black doesn't prove that whites built america LOL??????
2020-07-12 15:17
#104
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Ukraine volod1m1r
come on man, you know that whites colonized america. They brought civilization to those native tribes, though they killed most of them. They created the US, they built it. Slave trade came afterwards
2020-07-12 15:19
Realizing you are wrong on things that you are emotionally connected to is difficult, trust me, I know. But the fact that the slaves did work for the masters and built a lot of buildings etc. in america shows that america wasn't built by whites.
2020-07-12 15:21
#110
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Ukraine volod1m1r
Emotions? Im not the one calling forum a pile of neo-nazis axaxaxa. You lost the argument with this #107 stupid drama reply, 0 sophistication
2020-07-12 15:22
Blacks are sentenced for more for the same crimes because the crime itself isn't the only factor taken into account. When recidivism is taken into account, the disparity between the length of the sentences disappears. nyujlpp.org/wp-content/uploads/2014/01/D.. You know what the authors of the finding suggested be done? That recidivism not be taken into account if it negatively impacts Blacks. In other words, they suggested privileged treatment of Blacks.
2020-07-12 15:44
"Racial disparity in the criminal justice system is a complex problem with many disparate causes." Your research literally recognizes the existence of racism in the system... docs.google.com/document/d/1ido70LgXsEhx.. There is an extensive google doc on the issue, and many other issues as well :)
2020-07-12 15:49
No, it doesn't. Did you even read it? It is what the author is trying to prove, but the findings do not support the claim at all. If the disparities can be explained by objective factors (such as recidivism), then it's not racism. The fact that the author had the audacity to propose neglecting objectivity to peddle her agenda is mind-boggling. I am not going to read a Google Doc. You need to cite peer reviewed, scientific articles from reputable journals.
2020-07-12 15:55
Check the links in the doc on "Biases by Judges, Juries & Prosecutors" docs.google.com/document/d/1ido70LgXsEhx..
2020-07-12 15:59
Cite studies directly.
2020-07-12 16:16
You're right, saying whites built america is incorrect. Whites contributed to the making of vast majority, or almost all of america and blacks contribution was barely any or almost none is actually factually correct. There you go, factually correct facts :)
2020-07-12 15:38
Source on the claim that blacks contribution was close to 0?
2020-07-12 15:40
Blacks are a net detriment to the US economy. They take more in social handouts than they pay in taxes as a group.
2020-07-12 15:47
Assuming this is true, why are blacks in that situation?
2020-07-12 15:50
Because they have considerably lower IQ on average.
2020-07-12 15:55
I was thinking you were gonna come out with a good argument there, but now I can see the type of person you are LMAO.
2020-07-12 15:57
Oh, so citicing scientific facts is not a good argument to you? I mean, I could already tell you were some crazy neomarxist when you started to call everyone a neonazi. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Achievement_gaps_i.. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Race_and_intellige.. There's a 1.1 SD difference between US Whites and US Blacks. It's a fact.
2020-07-12 16:04
I'm gonna need a source on the net deficit of black ppl for the economy. Also, IQ isn't the only deciding factor on whether someone is a positive contributor to the economy. The reason blacks have lower IQ on average is because the average black person does not have the same education as a white person or asian. And the reason for that is along history of racism; slavery. redlining, jim crow laws.
2020-07-12 16:04
Education has no longterm effect on an adult's IQ. ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4445388.. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heritability_of_IQ en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Intelligence_quoti.. Programs such as Head Start showed modest IQ gains in childhood, but no such gains carried over into adulthood. This is called Wilson Effect - the influence of genetics over environment amplifies as times passes because the effects of genetics are present consistently throughout our lives, and environment acts impulsively.
2020-07-12 16:16
link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s00148.. This is for Denmark. Non-white (the number of East Asians is negligible) immigrants are net fiscal negative. White immigrants are a net fiscal positive. cream-migration.org/publ_uploads/CDP_22_.. The UK - same story (although the results are skewed due to a higher proportion of Chinese and upper caste Indians).
2020-07-12 16:44
docs.google.com/document/d/1ido70LgXsEhx.. Scroll down to "Immigration Is Just Good in General"
2020-07-12 15:54
Immigration is not the same as diversity as understood by the Left. Immigrants can be white, and Whites do not count as regards the 'diversity'. And not all immigration is good. Immigration from Latin America is a net drain on the US economy. Only immigration from intellectually neutral (Europe) or intellectually superior (East Asia, e.g. China, Korea, Japan, Singapore; Indian Brahmins; European Jews) is a net positive to the US economy.
2020-07-12 15:59
In the long run it's good for the economy: budgetmodel.wharton.upenn.edu/issues/201.. "Economists generally agree that the effects of immigration on the U.S. economy are broadly positive. Immigrants, whether high- or low-skilled, legal or illegal, are unlikely to replace native-born workers or reduce their wages over the long-term, though they may cause some short-term dislocations in labor markets. Indeed, the experience of the last few decades suggests that immigration may actually have significant long-term benefits for the native-born, pushing them into higher-paying occupations and raising the overall pace of innovation and productivity growth. Moreover, as baby boomers have begun moving into retirement in advanced economies around the world, immigration is helping to keep America comparatively young and reducing the burden of financing retirement benefits for a growing elderly population. While natives bear some upfront costs for the provision of public services to immigrants and their families, the evidence suggests a net positive return on the investment over the long term."
2020-07-12 16:01
1. This is not a peer-reviewed, scientific article. 2. It does not differentiate between the nationality/race/ethnicity. 3. The author is hopeful that the immigrants will be a net fiscal positive in the long term - the article does not prove that anywhere. In other words, it's just wishful thinking.
2020-07-12 16:27
Blacks where like 3% of population back then so their contribution was abysmal? And they werent building, they were working on farms lol. Inform yourself properly and stop listening to leftist brainwash.
2020-07-12 15:33
I linked an article on SOME things blacks built?
2020-07-12 15:34
What kind of bullshit is that LOL This is literal comedy - when a white guy is rich it has to be cuz of racism, but when facts turn out to be different then theres also other shit to explain why system is racist and favors whites Hahahahahha. This is fuckin ridiculous.
2020-07-12 15:31
Are you denying the fact that the system is racist against blacks?
2020-07-12 15:35
To deny a fact it has to be a fact in the first place. Rn we just see bullshit made up by some retard who hates whites and calls things facts after reading 1 or 2 biased articles and adds to that some non sense and other subjective opinions. With your logic actual fact is that system favors Indians and Asians which makes it also racist towards whites. How are you gonna explain that?
2020-07-12 15:42
I'm gonna take that as a yes. docs.google.com/document/d/1ido70LgXsEhx.. There you go :)
2020-07-12 15:44
Yes, it's easy to cherrypick the smart indians who get out of their country just because they were lucky enough to be born intelligent and get the proper education, while rest of them live in slumps and poverty. This isn't even a hateful comment, life in India is horrible and noone can deny that, which doesn't mean you should hate the people, i'm just saying your argument makes no sense. What i'm saying is you can't ask for diversity and claim it's a good thing, if you brought millions of completely random Indians to US, their average income would be much, much lower.
2020-07-12 00:51
India is a perfect example of why diversity doesn't work.
2020-07-12 00:57
Exactly man Muslims cancerous everywhere
2020-07-12 13:43
#56
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Yugoslavia seeeed
India is trash, but that got nothing to do with diversity
2020-07-12 13:46
Life in India is indeed sh1t
2020-07-12 13:19
I disagree Life in cities are good
2020-07-12 13:31
Life is good in cities if you're well off almost anywhere though.
2020-07-12 15:28
Uk indian education quality is so difficult.......that the questioms which an average highscooler solves is mind boggling for phdians and scientists....
2020-07-12 13:43
Finally someone, who understands statistics. It's the same story with Nigerians.
2020-07-12 13:52
You give examples of the most educated immigrants, then go on to ignore the millions upon millions of low skilled legal and illegal immigrants. Also a lot of those foreigners are brought in to replace American workers who demand more pay and benefits, while the foreigners will gladly work for way less.
2020-07-12 00:52
Working for less really only applies on a practical level to h1b visas, which definitely need to be banned. If you ban all skilled immigration to "protect American workers", the country will just fall behind.
2020-07-12 13:16
#12
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Sweden Majlo_
Diversity is not bad through and through. Diversity only for the sake of "diversity" is what is bad.
2020-07-12 00:49
This.
2020-07-12 00:55
This Good diversity = usa,canada, and the uk to some point Bad diversity = Sweden and later on other nordic countries
2020-07-12 01:01
#33
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Sweden Majlo_
Good diversity = The Turk making Pizza on the corner store and the Indian doctors (nationalities are just examples, could come from anywhere) Bad "diversity" = Let people who don't even bother to learn the language live off of your social programs in your nation instead of telling them to fuck off and fix their own nation
2020-07-12 12:40
Turks make Sweden's pizza, wtf?
2020-07-12 13:14
#132
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Netherlands staticNL
Turks make pizzas everywhere. here too. ofc we also have italian pizza places.
2020-07-12 15:56
#149
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Sweden Majlo_
They make really good pizza actually.
2020-07-12 16:55
Nothing beats Italian pizza bro. Go to New York to see what I mean. Or Italy for that matter.
2020-07-12 22:08
thank you
2020-07-12 14:37
thank you
2020-07-12 15:52
Bad diversity = Brazil, USA Good diversity = error 404
2020-07-12 12:49
Name checks out
2020-07-12 13:21
Sure when you have nothing to oppose you blame the person saying facts
2020-07-12 13:30
I didnt blame your for anything I just think your name perfectly relates to what I think your opinion is
2020-07-12 13:35
#38
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Israel sbd123
+1 good comment
2020-07-12 13:08
+1
2020-07-12 13:49
+1 We shouldnt take people just because of their race or nationality, take them because they want to contribute to our country and integrate into it (plenty of people would want to)
2020-07-12 14:53
#13
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Poland Hanse
How is this connected to diversity?
2020-07-12 00:51
? Content
2020-07-12 00:53
#17
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Poland Hanse
This mostly shows that most skilled asian immigrants are better than most skilled natives, which implies only that asians are superior. It's not even full spectrum of diversity.
2020-07-12 00:56
Asians are superior, at least when comes to IQ. xD
2020-07-12 15:04
#46
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Ukraine volod1m1r
you must be baiting. These stats have nothing to do with the point you are trying to make
2020-07-12 13:29
in finland immigrants have 30 less iq than normal people, mainstream media claims that structural racism is the reason. they just do not care about anything, dont respect anything, just want to do drugs and commit crimes on the cost of the government. dont be so naive @mariaohisalo
2020-07-12 00:53
Immigrants in finland have a different mindset when moving there especially considering that wages are higher and jobs are more plentiful in the us
2020-07-12 00:57
in europe
2020-07-12 00:58
The asians and arabs I met in the uk were pretty chill and alot of them were in the better areas of london
2020-07-12 00:59
better the key word there. Most immigrants in Europe are pretty chill, well the ones with morals and drive to actually do something and not scrounge from the governments.
2020-07-12 16:01
"ust want to do drugs and commit crimes on the cost of the government." I'm going to need a source on that, and not one from MV-lehti :)
2020-07-12 14:43
it's good - but not when you try put everyone in the same basket ( category) and expect that to work = insanity
2020-07-12 00:56
#22
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Russia goodjob
yeah, its a small minority of skilled Indian and Asian immigrants vs everyone else
2020-07-12 00:58
So if we bring more of these skilled workers the us would benefit more from it
2020-07-12 01:03
#32
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Russia goodjob
and they do all the time, it's just that there arent that many of them tbh but the diversity the left is talking about is something completely different.. they wanna let anyone in the country.. even illegals Immigration is fine as long as it's strict and fair.. and by fair i mean you can't just skip the line and enter the country illegally and then claim citizenship
2020-07-12 01:42
i know a guy from mexico who waited 5 years for his family to get in to the US, he didnt complain about the wait or line, he was just happy to get in.
2020-07-12 16:07
#28
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South Africa EXO69
Immigration is only good when the immigrants are and will remain a minority.
2020-07-12 01:03
In what way? Oh and btw, source pls.
2020-07-12 14:44
2020-07-12 12:41
A literal neo-nazi JQ conspiracy website OMEGALUL.
2020-07-12 14:45
the original article wasn't, your point?
2020-07-12 14:57
Whiterabbitradio is a white supremacist website, so getting your info from there is something a brainlet would do. My point is that diversity in the long run is a good thing, and the only reaosn some ppl are against it is because they either have a deep hatred for brown ppl or they are very ill-informed.
2020-07-12 15:04
The original article it references is not from a white supremacist website, not that I'd expect a brainlet like you to understand.
2020-07-12 15:05
I never said HIS links are white supremacist??? Your links are literally from white supremacists. splcenter.org/hatewatch/2013/07/02/white..
2020-07-12 15:10
Ok and? Also SPLC lmaoooooo
2020-07-12 15:11
god, another fake flagger.
2020-07-12 15:18
I'd love to be in that 130,000$ paycheck group. Anyways, it's benefiting America and it's people ultimately.
2020-07-12 13:01
asian gonna rule the world
2020-07-12 13:32
the most diverse region in ex-yugo is also one of the most developed ones seems weird huh
2020-07-12 13:57
Are you talking about Vojvodina?
2020-07-12 14:48
yeah
2020-07-12 14:48
I think the reasons of it being developed might be different. Austria-Hungary spent a lot of money there before it was given to Serbia
2020-07-12 14:49
yeah because they brought tons of different ethnicities who specialized in different stuff and worked together to create a developed region
2020-07-12 14:51
Latino isn't a race, this shit fucking drives me crazy. To the point of the thread though, racial diversity isn't bad nor good, but REAL diversity can be very bad, REAL diversity is diversity of ideas, principally in the political realm. U.S was a Libertarian Minarchy from 1776 to roughly 1910 , with most Yankee states fully abolishing slavery long before the civil war, as Polish, Russian, German and Scandinavian immigrants starting migrating more and more to the U.S , the federal government grew both in size and power. Statist collectivist brute primitive and ignorant populations as all Germanic and Slavics are, will inevitably create violence one way or the other, Mexicans are banana and Swedes are rich and docile....Mexicans may create gang violence in your streets, but Swedes will vote for increased government power and the reduction of your individuals liberty, therefore, increasing violence byway of the state; The entity that has a monopoly of violence. As far as immigrants today??? The only populations i've observed that truly deserve to go anywhere they want are Kongers and Estoniants, the rest of you are an absolute shame, including U.S Americans.
2020-07-12 14:31
#76
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North America karalumano
University is bad
2020-07-12 14:52
there would be no slaves, if everyone was treated equally. to keep capitalism running, they needed this upper,middle,lower class bullshit.
2020-07-12 15:01
please keep your american problems off HLTV..
2020-07-12 15:10
Immigration working for us isn't a problem though.
2020-07-12 15:30
#97
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Russia RogueDecay
Stats only prove that USA education is shit.
2020-07-12 15:16
Diversity is neither good nor bad. Just don't look at the world through a lense of skin color and we good
2020-07-12 15:20
Diversity is pretty much exclusively talked about in terms of race, identity politics is the cancer eating away at the west and will probably be the thing that kills it.
2020-07-12 16:18
So silly that people are trying to be less racist by being racist(aka looking at the skin color instead of the individual)
2020-07-12 17:58
Jobs and education that could of gone to White Americans. BTW the country is filling up with Hispanic trash
2020-07-12 16:08
I'm pretty sure most the immigrant that go to america for education actually leave after they have gained their degree, I know a couple Koreans that have done it and one Indian and they've all told me that it's pretty common, western countries have some of the highest education standards in the world plus it's easier for them to get into western universities. Especially now that the racist laws implemented by Obama to make it so Asians had to actually score higher than others to even get in has been removed. I don't think it's a problem that they end up going back to their country or going to another country because they still pay for their education so it's their choice where they go I guess.
2020-07-12 16:22
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