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s1mple | 
North America DoodlyDick 
Someone please tell me why these paid hacks users never get vac? I've got 10+ demos of my mm games and a guy is blatantly walling in every one of them. I reported all of them , my friends did the same .. But still no overwatch?.. They didn't get vac.. alright .. i understand that their hacks bypass that shit.. but why no overwatch? They are literally pre-aiming and pre-firing..
2020-07-12 14:53
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Every good player should be able to prefire.
2020-07-12 14:55
i know the difference b/w a legit prefire and prefire using hacks
2020-07-12 14:59
What if I prefire like a cheater? Every game I play enemy says 'nice prefire retard', and they say on my profile 'fucking trash hacker boosting his low elo friend'.
2020-07-12 15:01
like i told u i'll know the difference once i watched the demo .. plz don't suggest that they could be good players.. trust me they aren't even trying to hide
2020-07-12 15:02
i play faceit most of the times.. and not even once i called out a player who prefired me even at an unusual spot.. but in mm i don't trust ..
2020-07-12 15:04
You need at least 10 reports per 24 in order to get into overwatch (besides spinbot). 1 game = max 9 reports. You wait a day and cheat again :)
2020-07-12 15:01
well, that sucks .
2020-07-12 15:05
pretty sure this is just myth
2020-07-12 16:36
Austria SplasJ
It is, they changed how you get put in overwatch multiple times already. You can also get put in overwatch because of stats and the amount of reports you need also varies as it takes more information into consideration
2020-07-13 10:13
I don't think anyone knows how Overwatch works exactly. There was this myth for years that if you only play one game per day you will not get into Overwatch because there aren't enough reports for it but I don't know if that ever got truly confirmed or maybe changed
2020-07-12 15:03
yea i've heard that too .. and also valve didn't give any updates related to overwatch since they launced it i think
2020-07-12 15:08
The only statement I know of about Overwatch is that their VACnet AI is supposed to spot suspicious aiming patterns and put those people into Overwatch but I guess wallhacks are not affected by that.
2020-07-12 15:09
i find it funny how scream's smurf got overwatched but these hackers are roaming free :D
2020-07-12 15:15
Well if they would go into Overwatch, they'd get overwatched too. But they seem to know tricks that lets them avoid that
2020-07-12 15:16
Germany G3er
i reported a guy like 5 times and even his steam profile a couple months ago, he would literally lock him aim behind the wall even before entering the site to this day he hasn't been banned csgo is just shit but i don't feel like playing a cartoon game for kids like valorant, rip
2020-07-12 15:08
Exactly my friend.. all those demos im talking about consist of players like these .. they lock on players behind walls and instantly hs them on contact.. i don't get it how they are not banned.. it makes me angry
2020-07-12 15:10
Come Quake
2020-07-12 15:21
It's because nobody's really hacking. You can't cheat on VAC-secured servers. It's all in your head, sweetie.
2020-07-12 15:21
2020-07-12 16:27
It has been over a year since I last got the notification that a player I've reported has been overwatch banned although I've encountered countless of blatant and less blatant hackers on my smurf account. Seems to me there's a flaw in the system. Or they all just got VAC-bans, which I doubt. By the way, I don't get hackers on my main so I'm not really complaining about the encounters themselves.
2020-07-12 15:26
there's definitely something wrong with overwatch. Seems like our reports don't work on these hackers. There's no way they only play one match in 24 h to avoid that 10 reports mark as someone mentioned above.
2020-07-12 16:32
not a problem with overwatch, but the process of getting people to overwatch
2020-07-12 16:39
I would argue that's a problem with overwatch if we are talking about the whole system.
2020-07-12 17:02
I mean if you call the reporting system overwatch, then sure ig it's a problem with overwatch
2020-07-13 00:29
my friend uses cheats, and he has not been banned for several months, he can calmly talk about enemy or make preferes))) and he pays money for it. developers are constantly updating software
2020-07-12 16:58
"They are literally pre-aiming and pre-firing.." This is considered cheating?
2020-07-12 17:01
read #2 :)
2020-07-13 10:01
pre-aim through walls .. like they lock on to enemy's head behind wall and instant headshot at angles that you won't normally prefire
2020-07-13 10:03
Leaf cheater
2020-07-12 17:03
Sweden Zeepter
Im about 90% certain that people don´t check overwatch demos as much as you would want em too...
2020-07-13 10:06
Austria SplasJ
2020-07-13 10:16
That's actually a fair point. I used to do overwatch regularly, but some time after the f2p update (coincidence?) I started getting cases that were 95% just blatant spinbotting or wallhacking, and I lost interest. I just don't feel like doing a job that even I could code a bot to do. Overwatch used to feel important to me but now I feel like a monkey pressing a button when I convict a spinbotter.
2020-07-13 10:56
that's true. F2P = everyone hacks, it's 99% spinbot these days.
2020-07-13 11:15
"You cant hack in valve trusted mode" - Gaben, 2020
2020-07-13 10:08
Austria SplasJ
I think they have to change the overwatch reward system so that more people actually do overwatch cases so that people get banned faster. Maybe like one overwatch case gives you like 10 cents that you can only use on csgo keys or something than they don't lose anything at all and people that dont have much money would do it
2020-07-13 10:19
Pretty terrible idea ngl people would just do OW cases as fast as they could without worrying about accuracy, because there wouldn't be any punishment for it.
2020-07-13 11:00
Austria SplasJ
I thought about that after I wrote it as well but you could combat that by comparing with all the other overwatchers and only give a reward if they though the same or i dont know maybe make it that you can only get it if you watch the case for at least 5 min meh dont know thats for valve to think about :D
2020-07-13 11:40
Because very few people do overwatch. Just think about how many reports must come in every hour... and compare that to the amount of overwatch cases done in that time. It'd be great if there was some sort of reward for ow
2020-07-13 10:21
Replying to OP; many paid cheat users (at least the good ones) have overwatch bypasses, some even just quit before the last round and never get put in OW. I've reportbotted only 2 prime players in silver who weren't extremely blatant, and they both got banned within 24h. Maybe reportbotting works, maybe not.
2020-07-13 11:02
Austria SplasJ
you can get into overwatch even if you quit
2020-07-13 11:41
I know, but some people have found a bypass for OW that involves quitting
2020-07-13 12:19
Austria SplasJ
Ah ok
2020-07-13 12:43
nvm its just to avoid reportbots))
2020-07-13 13:10
i have over 1500 games. only 9 games were hackers (csgostats) fix your trust and everything is good
2020-07-13 11:03
Brazil Triarii
gold novas has access to overwatch. They see this kind of play and don't think it's hack Usually you are only punished by overwatch if you start wallbang everyone. I think valve only ban for overwatch someone when they are 100% sure that the person is hacking, to avoid lawsuits
2020-07-13 11:07
Austria SplasJ
no you can get banned by overwatch even if you arent cheating but those bans are not permanent and can get revoked
2020-07-13 11:43
There's retired nova 3s on this website who seem to think cheaters are rarer than a wild tiger, but at the moment it's awful My last 5 MM games were blatant cheaters (3 times on enemy team, twice on my team). I had people spec the games and confirm it, but not even necessary, as the cheaters admit that they're doing it, mocking valve saying 'you can't cheat with new update' Amazing that multi-billion dollar company can't lock down cheats that look to be made by 15 year old high school I.T students I've moved over to playing AOE2 until this cleans up
2020-07-13 11:47
NEO | 
Canada chedca
2020-07-13 11:54
It's not the worst. The worst is that some stupid employees, when I try to send demos directly to steam support or share them in the vac section, remove my threads and tell me that apart from reporting them ingame I can do nothing. In other words, they support cheaters. May be if more people send those letters to the support and create threads in the forum - the employees will behave differently, but when it's only me - it's easy for them to tell me to fuck off, because apparently their game devs are busy creating another useless piece of shit like trusted mode. By the way yesterday in 2 matches I played against cheaters, and in my team a guy also turned a cheat on to counter them, thank you Vulva for stupid trusted mode, what a really cool feature!
2020-07-13 11:47
Overwatch wont work because the same hackers do reports.
2020-07-13 11:51
my friend good programmer and creat me one cheat for csgo 2years ago(1400+hours gametime) and still no vac or ow ban lol
2020-07-13 11:58
Multiple accounts, they are never alone, there is already business with pros since 2012, everything is already fucked and not even valve can't do shit, there is no way to stop it, please kill me.
2020-07-13 12:10
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