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Macau s1v9mple 
Even more brainwashed than Sweden
2020-07-12 15:42
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Denmark JKTP
Brainwashed about what? Sweden brainwashed?
2020-07-12 15:45
He is just jealous 3rd worlder
2020-07-12 15:45
He's a fakeflagger from France, France is AT LEAST 2nd or 1.5 world , definitely not 3rd world at all.
2020-07-12 15:57
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Denmark JKTP
Id say 1st world for sure? Democracy, check. 30k+ gdp per capita, check. Doing well on the Index, check (Corruption index, Cost of living, Happiness index etc.). Life expactancy past 78, check. So id say 1st world
2020-07-12 16:05
GDP Per Capita and GINI is their best measure , i consider them first world too but France is not as wealthy per capita as Germany-Austria-Nederland-Finland-Scandinavia. The big problem of France, as is in most of Europe...is that its just toooooo centralized, Paris is obviously an absolute 1st world country, Then maybe like 5 cities more...and then when you start to go to a little less known cities or towns you really start to see a huge downgrade in everything. But if you live in Cologne or Amsterdam and you move to Paris, you'll definitely feel a downgrade too. Latin Europe is in the shit, Italy just now made some long-due cuts...after 2.6 Trillion Euros of debt (they're still at a deficit though, but at least is a smaller 1.6% now). btw France is more corrupt than Uruguay.
2020-07-12 16:13
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Denmark JKTP
Uraguay is actually a fine country (if you look past Gini) if anything it's pretty impressive, i think it's worse that france is equal to the US. The US is so blatantly corrupt.
2020-07-12 16:50
Its not equal lul U.S is more corrupt 69 points Uruguay sitting at 71 points. Uruguay is stable, its not even safe, but its probably one of the better 2nd world countries in the world. Though it should be noted, the reason why Uruguay's murder rate is so high may be because they label car accidents as homicide and even if it can be proven that it was an accident, the perpetrator still goes to jail.
2020-07-12 16:52
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Denmark JKTP
I mean France and US. Both nr. 23.
2020-07-12 16:58
Imagine counting car crashes as homicide
2020-07-12 19:01
The average French is wealthier than the average German. Even the average Greek is wealthier than the average German en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countrie..
2020-07-12 17:12
what the fuck is your definition of world rofl. this isnt fucking counter strike lmfao france is a first world country theres no questions or arguments about it lmao wtf
2020-07-12 18:50
"i consider them first world" Dunno what you're getting so worked up about.
2020-07-12 18:52
1.5 world 2nd world theres only 1st world and 3rd world my friend, im worked up about someone arguing/discussing something without knowing something so basic
2020-07-12 19:27
No, in the modern economic take on the terminology of "1st world" and "3rd world" 2nd world is often used to refer to countries that are FAR TOO RICH to be third world but DEFINITELY not rich enough to be first world, such as Poland, Czechia, Estonia, Uruguay and Bulgaria. Unless you're moronic enough to put Poland Portugal and Uruguay in the same group as North Korea Zimbabwe and Tanzania.
2020-07-12 19:30
Macau third world lmao.
2020-07-13 11:15
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CIS sexiestuser
hes probably talking about antifa kids or some shit like this
2020-07-12 15:47
Brainwashed with Leftist dogshit
2020-07-12 15:49
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Denmark JKTP
Comment is ironic - first off Second why are you going after germany and sweden?? Germany is quite Authoritarian aswell. Sweden is the most libertarian Scandinavian country Norway and Sweden more socialist?
2020-07-12 15:51
Sweden is the most Libertarian country out of the 4.5 yes, but none of you are Libertarian at all, i think you should rephrase to "Sweden is the least authoritarian country in Scandinavia"
2020-07-12 15:58
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Denmark JKTP
Nah we all socialdemocracies. But Sweden showed there "True colours" in the corona pandemic when they did the opposite of DK and NO. Also after they took in a lot of refugees more and more have turned against socialism
2020-07-12 16:01
I really dont think so, i think they just didn't want to drown in debt, Sweden was massively underfunded to enforce a martial quarintine, they had great credit they could've gone into debt to do so but they chose not to, i guess you could somehow say this was kinda Libertarian but i rather just say they were responsible with their balance account, besides Swedes are very docile with their government, Scandinavians in Generals i'd say, but you less than your northern neighbours (or so it appears).
2020-07-12 16:04
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Denmark JKTP
Really? Id say danes are very docile. But you are probably right i mean atleast they didn't protest against wearing masks, looking at you USA and many also self isolated.
2020-07-12 16:06
Yes, Denmark really did tighten up with refugee policy, much more than Sweden...even if Danes aren't slightly more resilient your political elites are clearly far more firm handed than Sweden...by far. But just on public perception, 6 years on HLTV Sweden does come across as a country where certain groups can get away with some crimes, whereas Denmark i (and i think most HLTV users) have always percieved as not letting anyone get away with any crime.
2020-07-12 16:10
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Denmark JKTP
2 parties in Denmark are for Completely removing boundaries on amount and what refugees we should take in. They together got 20% of votes, SOCIALISM. On the other hand 2 of our parties are basically completely against refugees at all, and they got like 17% Nah, we are very stubborn. In Denmark there was a show that aired were a danish politician was placed in a car with one of his friends. They were stopped by the police (They crossed a red light after waiting 15 min in the middle of no where) and the friend gave the cop like 1k dkk which is like 150 dollars with his drivers license (he was trying to pay the cop to let them go). I have never seen a man freak out so much in my life. Obviously it was set up and the friend was in on it too but it's a fine example. if you are caught even being the slightest bit corrupt it's political suicide here, and it's not just political suicide. No job is going to be willing to take your. That's probably also why we are nr. 1 when it comes to corruption
2020-07-12 16:56
if sweden is the most libertarian then what are norway and denmark?
2020-07-12 16:02
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Denmark JKTP
In recent years they have been more Libertarian, while Norway and Denmark have been more Authoritarian.
2020-07-12 16:07
are you talking about the lockdown or overall?
2020-07-12 20:38
The last 4-5 years.
2020-07-12 21:01
woah woah, that's a big claim... more brainwashed than sweden? jeez
2020-07-12 16:01
Certainly
2020-07-12 16:10
but the swedish government actually managed to sacrifice over five thousand people to corona virus and called it "the greater good" and the swedes still support their government even germany didn't and probably couldn't do that
2020-07-12 16:21
We tend not to rebel against our government during crisis. Just wait until this is over.
2020-07-12 20:02
And in the US tens of thousands of lives are sacrificed just to try and kickstart the economy for trump re-election. And the trump supporters still support it.
2020-07-12 20:47
Trump supporters have been supporting him for so long they feel like they can't stop now without embarrassing themselves and conceding to the "libs".
2020-07-13 11:16
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Brazil pilastra
the truth abouth the World Health Organization, watch after 1:34:50 .. english subtitle youtube.com/watch?v=-ugqbyDCamw&t=5357s
2020-07-12 15:48
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Denmark JKTP
Is it just critique of WHO? Is it defending what trump did?
2020-07-12 15:52
Germans are hardcore leftist with some crazy white guilt. Understandable, but they completely just ignore what they did less than 100 years ago. They dont talk about it, its probably not even talked about on schools.
2020-07-12 15:53
We get taught everything about it very thoroughly to make sure something like that doesn't happen again
2020-07-12 15:54
Then you would know it was just normal people and not "evil people" and poor conditions made them do it
2020-07-12 15:56
I have no idea what you are talking about. Who is saying that all of them were bad people?
2020-07-12 15:58
Ur Verfassung.
2020-07-12 16:00
Where does it say that?
2020-07-12 16:01
gesetze-im-internet.de/stgb/__86a.html Sorry that was StGB, not Verfassung
2020-07-12 16:05
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Germany Grolzius
thats simply says that numbers like 88 are not allowed on cars where does that say all of them were bad people
2020-07-12 16:40
Why are they banned then?
2020-07-12 16:41
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Germany Grolzius
because signs who honor someone or something that is directly related to mass murder are not good?
2020-07-12 16:47
Which was used largely in daily life and %90 of time just casually .d.d
2020-07-12 16:48
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Germany Grolzius
that doesnt change anything. you cant say something is ok because its normal. and you cant "casually" support mass murder of jews and even if you do that doesnt make it right or ok
2020-07-12 16:55
So, you're saying all of them (everyday ppl) were bad .d
2020-07-12 16:58
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Germany Grolzius
im saying that not even questioning mass murder is morally wrong
2020-07-12 17:02
lmao it doesnt say anything close to what you said. What a bad try
2020-07-12 19:09
+1 outed himself as an idiot, well done. love them baiters, claiming shit and then taking random argument to defend their point, even though it's totally out of context and not even related to their first argument. fucking braindeads.
2020-07-13 11:22
Germans who supress it
2020-07-12 16:01
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Yugoslavia RIP_MY_NIP
"Then you would know it was just normal people and not "evil people" and poor conditions made them do it" what
2020-07-12 16:00
Its true. They were not different from you and me.
2020-07-12 16:01
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Yugoslavia RIP_MY_NIP
Ah ofc, I too am a racist genocidal homophobe
2020-07-12 16:03
Yes ONE of the reasons they elected NSDAP was because of bad living conditions,bad economy,etc.
2020-07-12 16:03
but lets be real here Germans were really patriotic to their country but after they lost WW2 they were sadly brainwashed by the allies and now they are leftist and very non-patriotic
2020-07-12 16:05
non patriotic yes leftist no
2020-07-12 16:05
well most of them are leftist, of course not everyone but I still respect Germans because they are hard working and unlike the Japanese they apologized
2020-07-12 16:07
Depends on what you consider "leftist". Many Germans are in favor of giving poor people some money so they can live acceptable live even without working. But we arent pro socialist/communist like some real leftist.
2020-07-12 16:09
what you talking about the most of us especially the guys in our youth are mid left obviously there are always some downies in that huge mess that get the most attention
2020-07-12 16:36
ok i guess i was wrong about most of the people being left, sorry
2020-07-12 16:38
there is definitely a huge problem with our ex eastern part (ex ddr) they have more often right tendencies
2020-07-12 16:40
is that bad in your opinion? that there are people that are more patriotic to Germany?
2020-07-12 16:45
is being racist bad?
2020-07-12 16:47
I don't think they are racist, they just don't want immigrants
2020-07-12 16:49
but alot of them are treating them like they are trash
2020-07-12 16:51
I live in eastern Germany and can't support this claim at all. In fact, I live in a 100% leftist community right now. There aren't any more 0 iq rightists here than there are in the rest of Germany. The city I live in has 240k citizens and I've never met a rightist here myself. Most people here have common sense. That means they support deporting illegal or criminal immigrants and helping legal immigrants integrate themselves with exclusive offers to support them.
2020-07-12 17:19
2020-07-12 17:46
+1
2020-07-12 19:11
Wtf is wrong with you. You know nothing about Germany and how the life is in Germany. How the youth talks and behave. And if you read some situations in your brainwashed media which overact to get attention doesn't mean it's a daily life situation or whatever. My comment is not only based on ur last comment but on your whole talking before
2020-07-12 16:55
why so mad? also, i apologized for saying that Germans are leftist, looks like you have not read the entire conversation before talking.
2020-07-12 17:10
Germany is extremely leftist yes, they're also extremely evil and racist, don't be fooled by these morons. Take care of Estonia because if you give in to social democracy you'll become a shithole.
2020-07-12 17:22
0/8 retarded 3rd Worlder is jelly about better countries LUL
2020-07-12 19:04
lmao what are you on about? As someone who has lived for 5 years in germany they cant stop talking about it
2020-07-12 16:25
Why didnt you stay in your own country?
2020-07-12 16:40
life's too short to only see one place
2020-07-12 16:45
easy for a guy born in a top 5 country in the world to make comments like that, lmao
2020-07-12 19:11
He is just a low iq who thinks his thoughts are facts because in his mind its most likely like this
2020-07-12 16:57
Im almost certanly more successful than you. I welcome you to compare bankaccounts and come to a conclusion.
2020-07-12 18:31
that moment when you go from extreme right to extreme left within 50 years, this is some top level white guilt shit.
2020-07-12 18:06
+1
2020-07-12 18:30
just fyi we don't learn anything else than ww2 in history class, legit 70% of the time is spent on it... and not only in history but other subjects aswell. legit had to stop taking history because it was annoying as fuck
2020-07-13 00:49
Wtf 😦
2020-07-13 11:04
I do not want to be the devils advocate but germany as a country admitted all the war crimes, and paid all their reparations. I have met a lot of germans and none of them were proud or even neglectful about those things. And furthermore, how can this generation be responsible for what their grandparents did? On the other hand Russia responsible for destruction of many countries during the cold war and even WWII - Finland and Poland were of them tried to hide all their crimes and mostly deny them to this day.
2020-07-13 11:24
who
2020-07-12 15:53
who
2020-07-12 15:58
Thank you for your very insightfull thread, I personally love your argument pointing up to your claim. Very interesting reading
2020-07-12 16:00
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Netherlands ONGix
That's really racist not all Arabs are brainwashed..
2020-07-12 16:02
Germany and the entire Germanic culture are just hardcore pure collectivists who will always worship the state above all, They want redistribution of wealth, massive taxes, tax the rich, massive regulationism. They're cannibals eating eachother, barbarian savages trying to play civilized to the best of their abilities but they just can't help their urges, what a repugnant bunch. I promise you this, a Latin country will rise above before the end of this century, real Libertarianism, individualism and private property will be fully embraced and it will be x999999 superior to these northern barbarians. Germanics are the real enemies of the world, freedom and individualism.
2020-07-12 16:02
0/8 3rd Worlder
2020-07-12 16:04
Classic German refutal, thanks for proving my point, barbarian.
2020-07-12 16:17
Are you high on Drugs or smth? Germany leader of the free world stands for FREEDOM and Human Rights.
2020-07-12 16:19
HAHAHAHAHAHAAHAH , you wouldn't know what freedom is even if it was fucking your butthole. Get the fuck off my notifications, savage.
2020-07-12 16:21
Propably brainwashed by 3rd Worlder Education
2020-07-12 16:22
3rd worlder education teaches us your shitty ass statist collectivist intellectuals moron. Marx, Engels, Bismarck, worst humans to ever set foot in this fucking planet. Not to mention that in my country, Argentina, they fucking worship your asses it revolts me physically.
2020-07-12 16:24
they worship us because germany bestest just accept it mens))
2020-07-12 16:25
Nah they worship you because they're indoctinated into your absolutely horrendous ideas which have destroyed this country, France, Italy and a huge part of Eastern Europe. You think the individual is dispensable, you think the collective comes first, you think equality of wealth is to be achieved through government force...at any cost, you are against freedom of speech, self-defense, self-governance. You must have really fucked up shit for brains to produce such shitty thoughts for so long, you are just the worst.
2020-07-12 16:27
Are you talking about China or Germany???? WTF
2020-07-12 16:28
hahahahaha classic German tactic, what a sore loser.
2020-07-12 16:30
gesetze-im-internet.de/englisch_gg/ If you read that you will see that everything you wrote is wrong :)
2020-07-12 16:30
Everything you stand for is evil. Welfare state isn't a human right. State health isn't a human right. Subsidies aren't a human right. Not being offended by speech isn't a human right. Human rights as implied by Marcus Tullius Cicero and then fully reinforced by Frederic Bastiat are the big 3: Life, Liberty and Private Property. You do NOT have a right to other people's money. You have hate speech laws that will jail people for outting hate speech in public, your taxes are shit, high, you are anti-gun ownership and you're horribly statist for everything, you breathe and out collectivism, you're everything that's wrong, your government is everything that's wrong.
2020-07-12 16:36
guns are unnecessary "you do not have a right to other peoples money" you act like these rich people got their money all by themself lmao they make that profit by letting other people work harder just look at america its obvious that more social countries are at the same time the best countries and thats done through collectevism
2020-07-12 16:43
THERE YOU ARE! The person im talking about, you are what i call a REAL German. I look at U.S , i look at Germany, and i see that U.S which deviated from Germanic idiosincracy to great lenght...is extremely superior to your shithole. "Guns are unnecessary" You are unnecessary, you really dont need to exist, can i seize your existence??? Whether you think Guns are good or bad you dont get to take other people's private property, its theirs...not "ours" you piece of shit. "its obvious that more social countries are at the same time the best countries and thats done through collectevism" Less social countries: U.S , Taiwan, Hong Kong, Estonia, Japan and South Korea, all of which are infinitely superior to Germanic countries. Think of U.S as an extremely latinized Germanic country.
2020-07-12 16:49
It's obvious you're either conflating a lot of things or baiting lol. If you considder the UK to be of germanic culture which it is a lot of idea's about freedom originate from the germanic world. In wartime all states are collectivist and Germany was a lot of time at war that's where you are conflating. 4/8
2020-07-12 16:35
UK is technically Germanic yes, UK made great contributions to the free world, UK doesn't hold any invention titles for any of this. The concepts of private property, individual sovereignty and anti-statism originate from the Roman Res publica , mainly from the great Marcus Tullius Cicero. Bastiat was the first Anarcho-Capitalist in the world. It is the Latins who have always contributed to the concepts and enforcement of freedom, and it is us who have always been the ones to fully enforce it fully without any buts or ifs. Did you know that by the time U.S entered the civil war, Argentina had the same minarchist system BUT with the difference that Argentina had already abolished Slavery federally for 7 years???? Germany was a lot of time at war, Germany was most of its time NOT at serious war, Germanics never embraced the individualist values of Western Civilization that the Romans brought to them, the Romans didn't exterminate them out of pity. Looking at what Germanics have done to the world today, i wonder if they were too kind for their own good...
2020-07-12 16:41
It is my understanding that the Romans tried to exterminate the Germans but were unable to, let us remember the battle of teutoburg forest. Granted this really has nothing to do with the Germans per se, more with geography and distance to Rome as the Gauls and the Belgians were mighty opponents as well but didn't enjoy these advantages. What about Locke, Paine, Mill? The concept of private property being invented in Rome is too silly to propose for such a basic feature. That is like believing writing originated only in Mesopotamia. Of course the Roman republic contributed to a lot of these idea's. But at the same time this was an organisational form that also incorporated dictatoriship later on which is really statist as well. It was a beautiful blend. It is funny that you mention Rome in this context because the Roman republic was no true free society, unless you were not a slave. Also the Romans excelled in their organizational skills on state and military level, which is one of the reasons they were so successfull and this is mainly what the Germans learned from them early on to replace the old Rome as a new superpower. Lastly you forget the nuance that although France is seemingly a latin country, it borrowed heavily culturally and genetically from the German world. Need not to explain that Charlemagne and the subsequent states were the first blends between germanic and latin culture which resulted in France as we know it so yes we can link for example Rousseau to the germanic world.
2020-07-12 16:58
"It is my understanding that the Romans tried to exterminate the Germans but were unable to" In the very end when the Empire was pretty much a shadow of its former self, indeed, not during the first half ot the Res publica and first half of the Empire, both of those timeframes they could've Thanos'd the fuck out of Germanics, it quite literally was just like the British Crown meeting the Mohawks for the first time, except that the Romans were extremely merciful. But it is true that by the time that the Eastern Roman empire formed, the real Roman Empire was a joke and the Germanics had made mindblowing advancements. "What about Locke, Paine, Mill? The concept of private property being invented in Rome is too silly to propose for such a basic feature" All built upon the bases of Cicero, why is it silly? Rome literally showed the origins of Private Enterprise from the pleb class, they are the real heros. It's like saying Marx invented communism, while very technically true...it isn't really true, Rousseau and Robespierre were extremely prominent tangibles of pre-marx communism. Holy Roman Empire had nothing to do with Roman Res publica, Empire or principles altogether. "It is funny that you mention Rome in this context because the Roman republic was no true free society" Freest society in the world by an outrageous margin at its time, you're measuring Rome with today's bar, Rome's equivalent in today's world would literally be a Minarchist system, which there is none. The reason why Romans succeeded in an imperial metric as far as expanding goes is what you well said, but the reason why actual Romans in the Italic peninsula PROSPERED was just NOT that, the reason why the Etruscans, Romans and Southerners were able to prosper prio the Latin League war wasn't because of centralization???? it was because of a good deal of decentralization and individualist values. "it borrowed heavily culturally and genetically from the German world" France has way too much German influence culturally, were it not for that, they would've gone towards the French Liberal School in the 19th century and they would be wealthier per capita than U.S with much greater development in infrastructure, better living conditions (Housing in Europe is shit, but in France its even worse) and a much freer society. Spain and Portugal have Arab Influence, all Latin countries have outsider influence, but France truly was ready to embrace what today we know as Libertarian principles and it didn't...because of German Intellectual Lobby power and German Elites coallition. Spain and Portugal were never close to any of this. Rousseau was Swiss , Swiss French are the real Germanic-ized Latins. Real Frenchmen were Bastiat and Jean-Baptiste Say. The Germanic influece in France is rather small language-wise, big culture-wise, and far too abusive elites-wise.
2020-07-12 17:13
Well it's funny because I come from another part of Germanic culture (flanders) and we were renowned for our numerous revolts and our heavy stride guaranteeing civil rights from despots. We were as much germanic, probably with more gaul and belgian admixture, still germanic and our ethics were always to guarantee rights from despots. I am very interessted in the idea's of liberararinism and I too revolt against the mentality of the herd and the shunning of personal resposability. I can guarantee you as well that a lot of Germans are likewise fed up with the tyranny of the herd. You seem to be knowledgable (yet extremely biased) so if you have books or references to guide me in the libertarian way that would be appreciated. Though I don't believe a true decentralized state would ever be powerfull. There is a reason Germany, Rome, the modern US and many others are vastly superior to f.e. any country in latin America. It's all about the right blend.
2020-07-12 17:30
"(yet extremely biased)" We all are extremely biased, im just honest, genuine and upfront, i dont bullshit around and i dont try to gradually decieve you. I would say you could start with Basic Economics from Thomas Sowell and then move up to Economic Sophisms by the great Bastiat, this should seriously challenge your views on economy, specially since i can tell you're fond of planning and what are and arent "rights" , then i would say that Phillosophy you just enter wikisource and read absolutely everything there is to read from Marcus Tullius Cicero. If you just want to read in your native language because you'd feel more comfortable reading in your native tongue without having to do any post-process in your brain, Nietzsche and Hayek are really good minds...far too good for the places they were born in, im obviously gonna rank Bastiat and Cicero much higher. As for comparic Germanics to Latins today, it really seems like you entered this whole discussion in good faith and you did really give me a challenge (which im grateful for) , so i'll assume you're just not considering the full scene and the pro-germanic picture is obviously the most popular one, so you run with it in good faith too. But my friend, U.S wasn't always the supreme superpower of prosperity it is today (even though today it is less so than before). Argentina's GDP Per Capita in 1895 i.imgur.com/Y6ucgwA.png Buenos Aires in the 1920's: i.imgur.com/fzj9Qmx.png i.imgur.com/SYNThsX.png It took U.S 120 years to get there in 1895, it took Argentina 42 years to get there in 1895. All founding fathers of the Argentinian constitution including its writer and composer (Alberdi, though he was also an anglophille) were huge Latin supremacists, all could read and write Latin, Italian and French, all being able to speak and understand Italian and French to perfection. So why exactly do you think Argentina got there??? how??? Why are we what we are now??? And also, you take Euro Germanics and U.S as the Germanic world, but you ignore Suriname, Jamaica, Botswana, Namibia and the Bahamas??? Those are the countries you should be comparing to Latin America and in such comparison, the Germanic world loses by a very huge margin (Botswana must be recognized as the biggest success in Afrika though). Germanic countries are able to run themselves on the system that they are wired for, Latin countries are not, Latins are meant for Libertarianism, this is why whenever you see crazy leftists in Germanic countries they're a joke , but the crazy leftists in Latin countries have an obvious Anarchist tint to them (perverted and wrong, but absolutely anarchist in the end). Should a Latin Country anywhere in the world go full Bastiat, your people would be on their knees to get in, no offense.
2020-07-12 18:00
If I remember rightly from the book "Why nations fail" in Argentina there wasn't a strong independent central bank which allowed corrupt presidents to fuck with the currency with all kind of schemes and thus Argentina plummeted into poverty. And yes the USA wasn't always the supreme superpower. Before the US it was as far as I know Western Europe. Although I am not deterministic or I try not to be so since Russia lost to Japan it could very well be so that pre ww1 say France could lose a major battle to Argentina, this is rather pointless to posit of course since as far as I know Argentina never had any conflict with Western Europe in their heyday. You do have a fine point in the sense that Latin America is not a real comparison, if we look at modern southern countries in Europe, they are all continuously failing (granted my country Belgium is also failing but the -germanic- region Flanders is very prosperous). I don't really get where you distinguish between the so called Germanic world and the concept of Western Europe. As a Belgian I'm at the perfect cross-point in between the Germanic and the less-germanic French world. But in the whole of western Europe individualism is very powerful probably even too much so. As a result loneliness and isolation has increased very much and it is really hard to unite people for a single cause because individualism has taken absurd proportions. We all believe in personal and intellectual property. - Side-note; what is your opinion on Kant? Right now I am reading the Discourses On Livy, majestic book. - One wonders why modern Southern Europe is so weak economically. In the America's it seems to be that the USA is constantly meddling with 'its backyard' and preventing that any strong country should rise in Southern America; but this is not the case in Europe I believe. If I may be bold and try to predict your answer, as you have stated, the latin countries of Europe aren't running on some ideology that is somehow suited for them. Yet nationalist parties are on the rise in Italy for at least a decade. Might I assume you're linking the situation in Southern Europe to the policies and limits wherein they are bound to operate subjected by the EU? Maybe you have a real answer to this question and not some hypothetical "if, then" statement. I too am curious. The most obvious answer is the high level of corruption and the very weak law and order in the south of Italy. e: There is also another obvious factor in the sense that the Atlantic trade made the Mediterranean trade near non-existent which allowed the northern states to boom, again demonstrating how much of a factor geography is to the whole. Am awaiting your reply, in good faith.
2020-07-12 20:25
The central bank of Argentina was created in 1935, and it's been precisely one of the root causes of our horrible decay, Before having a Central Bank Argentina ran on a gold pattern that was 1:1 , 1nomina = 1gram , it devalued in the late 10's and Alvear's term tried to get it back to 1:1 with little success, still less than 3% inflation yearly. Government was small and taxes were super low, all of this was lost during the first military coup in 1930 which created the central bank, dobled inflation, imposed gun control laws, imposed tariffs and increase taxes (though not that much). Latin America's misery isn't U.S' fault, Latin America only had 2 real autonomous or what you would call "sovereign" countries which are Argentina and Brasil, these were the only 2 countries that truly embraced their Latin European heritage and in Argentina's case, implemented a Libertarian proyect, Brasil was on its way to do the same before they took down the monarchy (what BR Leftists wont tell you, Dom Pedro II abolished slavery and was dethroned by Racist Statist Repblicans). The rest of the countries once independized wanted to implemente very anti-western models because of resentment or foreign influence, but they never truly embraced Latin Liberty School values of the great thinkers we had, they associated all of that with the crown is my best guess, but i'll never TRULY know, Bolivia and Mexico (Spain's 2 most important colonies) were the worst examples of this, and it shows today, it is a severe reductionism and inaccuracy to blame U.S for their demise, U.S wasn't involved in foreign affairs that way when they (Latin Americans) decided to take such path post-independece. Not to mention, U.S aid wasn't any bigger or smaller than Soviet Aid to marxist guerrillas in the 50's all the way to the 70's , Latin Americans are autonomous people that made bad choices, i wouldn't blame the 2 superpowers at all, specially when their biggest cultural influencers were German, Austrians and Communist Frenchmen (that's what our academic elites teach in colleges to this day btw) As for the part on each system for each society being better at x system here's what i mean: Germanics are extremely orderly, industrious and collectivist people, you do collectivism best than anyone ever anywhere because that is what your peoples have been doing for over 3000 years. Latins are very Individualist and Epic-Driven peoples, people who love the epic journey from bottom to top, this is consistent all across the world (slightly less so in France) , so when Latins implement a system in which the individualist self-grandeur is very strongly reduced by having a higher floor but a much lower ceilling, they can't possibly properly function. This is why the only 2 times a Latin nation enforced radical individualism and anti-statism for its context, not only did it do so much better than anyone else who tried, but it showed the best results ever in such system. For example, as Argentina surpassed U.S' GDP Per Capita in 1895 and 1896 (#1 in both years yes) , U.S still had racially driven segregation laws in all southern states post-civil war and U.S still have actual real tariffs. Argentina had none of this, fully secular state with full interracial marriage 100% legal, no segregation laws, and no tariffs for ANY goods coming from France, Italy, UK, U.S, Belgium or Spain. Very VERY small tariffs for everyone else, singledigit import tax. I feel like i dont need to talk about Rome, you're probably aware of the greater individual freedoms and mass wealth that Rome achieved in the first half of the Res publica, they were hundreds of years ahead of everyone else, they are the most drastic dominance and supremacy ever shown by a single state. U.S had a largely minarchist economic system, but still had racially driven legislature and big fucking tariffs. Argentina cought up with them implementing the system properly...imagine if Argentina would've kept such system for 120 years??? from 1853 up until 1973. We're never going to prosper in a real social democrat system, just look at Chile, under Allende they were exactly like what Venezuela is today, Pinochet's dictatorship implemented a Classic Liberal economic system which was largely kept to today, and they went from being South Venezuela to becoming the richest country in S.A , definitely better living conditions than some Eastern European countries (though now they want to destroy it all). Look at Cuban's voting pattern: i.imgur.com/zC7zpXO.png I think if you took the statism away from Germany and Sweden, you'd see a lot of violence. If you took the statism away from Italy and Romania and implemented a fully Libertarian system, you'd see AT MOST...half the violence the Germanics would produce...and as time passes, you'd see the Latin countries prosper much much more than Germanic Europe, but the change will not be cultural first, the change must be institutional and systematic first, and violence must occur, and blood must be shed, it sounds horrible because it IS horrible, but Latin America and Latin Europe will never get out of the mediocrity they're in with hugs and kisses. And no, i don't mean a military coup nor a revolution, i mean a democratically elected official fully cutting out government goodies (along with taxes) at once, allowing citizens to bear arms, and defend themselves...the fringe left that would riot against it would be very quickly neutralized by average citizens defending their property...but it'd be a horrible showing. This is the way Latins must go and will eventually go. As for Kant, I haven't read him, i've been actually learning fiction lately, read 1984 not too long ago (long overdue) and now im reading Greek Mythology. But just because i like you, i will give Kant a try, despite not agreeing with many of them, i still hold great respect for the Enlightenment minds of course.
2020-07-12 21:11
germany free world leader ? u are puppet of usa witch are puppets of ISRAHELL
2020-07-12 17:05
None of them are puppets of anyone bruh. U.S American, German, Israeli and British elites are the only ones that trully fully rule their countries...is just that the path they pick is a piece of shit, nothing else. The U.S American and British elites were good once, for a very brief period of time. German and Israeli elites have always been horribly evil. Note: This doesn't mean that their politicians or heads of governments are the ones ruling the country OBVIOUSLY.
2020-07-12 17:24
SAVE US FREE MARKET LET ME BUY MY OWN ARMY TO DEFEND MY RIGHT TO OWN THIS PIECE OF DIRT
2020-07-12 18:06
kys fag
2020-07-12 18:08
Okay you've got to be either deluded or outright bullshitting. Germany is one of the least free countries in Europe. You guys were the driving force for dumb shit like Article 13. Add onto that you guys banning most things history related to WW2 such as investigating death totals with modern forensics or investigating the veracity of some memoirs. There is a reason Austria is the better Germany these days.
2020-07-12 19:23
bruh, what you said is complete fucking nonsense, gtfo pls
2020-07-12 16:21
rofl
2020-07-12 16:23
mad 3rd worlder hates on the West, Liberalism and Germany LUL
2020-07-12 19:13
Germany is not Liberal nor it has Western Values. You're a joke.
2020-07-12 19:14
All your posts are a joke. Calm your tits 3rd Worlder
2020-07-12 19:17
Such a joke that all you could come up with were cringy memelor zoomer insults. My little friend, spoiled brats like you make a fool of themselves when they try to shittalk (i'd argue you make a fool of yourself period, but since you live among retards you dont) so if you want to play the game try to get better at it? i feel insulted! Have a good one 👍🏻
2020-07-12 19:20
"Latin country will rise above "... how mens ? xd Brazil has potential in the future but highly doubt Argentina. How can you manage to fix the currency crisis and public debt ?
2020-07-12 19:47
I said before the century, what i believe will happen is that Argentina will break up into multiple countries and one of them (if its at least +400.000KM2) will combine everything we've learnt from the Roman Res publica, Golden Age Argentina (1853-1928) and what U.S and UK got wrong to organize a radically federal and diverse new country. Our 1853 constitution basically allowed the provinces to almost be their own countries (this was later removed in favor of Buenos Aires Centralization in 1945) and it worked like a charm. It will definitely be us who'll lead the way, because Brasil is far too against the concept of changing the map, Argentinians have always been more open minded towards it, Brasil will never kick off unless the North East states change their minds, the North East states will not change their minds if they keep the welfare and taxation system they currently have. Brasil as is known today can be as good as Poland best, but in order to truly reach its potential it first needs to break up and then reunite, If Brasil reached its potential it could be where China is today, if Brasil, Argentina, Uruguay and Paraguay made 1 country....
2020-07-12 19:55
This, exactly.
2020-07-12 16:11
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Ukraine volod1m1r
lmao her left hand XD
2020-07-12 16:16
I mean it doesn't really sound like many people are with her, does it? No more than 2 people clapping, that's it. Also the green parties never really make it anywhere anyway. They're present, that's about it.
2020-07-12 17:34
wtf? Greens are now just a little bit below CDU. And CDU is like all-time German's leader party. I'm really scared that shitty Putin's AfD party is like 3-4th now in Germany. God bless Germany to stay away from being friends with this dictator Putin. It is much better to be with the West for Germany.
2020-07-12 18:54
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Brazil Criolinho
All jermans are dating a blonde blue-eyed girl, drinking beer, and driving a fancy car that they made, what's wrong with it? Immigrants are necessary for painting fences and construction services... it's all about trade-offs
2020-07-12 16:22
few germans are actually blonde with blue eyes ...
2020-07-12 17:08
Love how all the non germans are experts and know everything about germans/germany suddenly
2020-07-12 16:23
all i know, alot of germans lack humor and dont know about sarcasm.
2020-07-12 16:27
That's the boomer generation but not all. For example my mum or my aunt have good humor and can laugh . The youth is funny
2020-07-12 17:05
It's ridiculous. There no words to discribe how stupid this is. But the "experts" are 3rd worlders which have no education and can't think on their own. Or they might be jealous and want to spread hate
2020-07-12 17:03
Which is why you glorify 3rd world immigrants
2020-07-12 17:26
do you have any problem with ppl from a 3rd world country?
2020-07-12 20:25
+1
2020-07-12 19:11
The most of hate towards Germany is from 3rd World jelly losers. Relax guys...
2020-07-12 19:10
Germans have the sanity to use their own minds. Betas don't accept that and call it brainwashed cuz they are inferior
2020-07-12 16:26
exactly just look at all these brazilians who follow what gaules and fallen said and fucking bash on a young kid like animals
2020-07-12 16:44
+1 Germans are the best almost at everything. From Sport (Football) to Car production. 3rd Worlders are always mad about you guys, just ignore them. Germany is very important strategical partner of USA. Don't let anyone spoil our friendship and we gonna rule the World together guys.
2020-07-12 18:59
Nein WE FRIENDLY WE LOVELY WE LOYAL WE SEXY
2020-07-12 16:43
German porn = best porn German cars = best cars German football = best football etc.
2020-07-12 19:00
Iluv u 2 mens
2020-07-13 00:46
german guilt is insane
2020-07-12 16:50
#90
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Germany eXiownaGe
+1
2020-07-12 16:54
#100
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Brazil goatzera
+1
2020-07-12 17:04
they are brainwashed since 1900. NAZI/MERKEL/REFUGEES/ECOTERRORISM
2020-07-12 17:06
true ... brazil need to get relevant and save the world
2020-07-12 17:10
u are a gypsy, wtf you are talking about?
2020-07-12 17:39
Why are so many brazilian monks on this site ? xd
2020-07-12 18:02
don't change you flag, gypsy shit
2020-07-12 20:01
the jealousy toward germany from these 3rd world shithole countries is off the charts lol germas work ethic and mentality is simply superior, imagine losing 2 world wars and still be miles ahead of almost everyone else in europe economically.
2020-07-12 17:23
you mean baltics too?
2020-07-12 17:37
+1 3rd Worlders are mad about Germany, USA, Israel and other top-tier countries.
2020-07-12 18:55
Arbeit macht frei
2020-07-12 17:36
Good job Jonathan
2020-07-12 20:24
german Government tries to hide Nazi germany from humans in germany. Also i was in turkish darkweb group on facebook , group was closed reason is someguy posted about hitlers life and facebook closed the group LoL merkel pays facebook for this shit idk how much they pay but yes they are brainwashed
2020-07-12 18:05
lmao
2020-07-12 18:07
İt was 4 years ago btw
2020-07-12 19:49
brainwashed in what sense? its a big country with a strong economy. very diverse and interesting people group. germany is one of the best countries in the world, but you wouldn't know that 3rd worlder fake flagger
2020-07-12 18:34
+1 one of the few smart posts here
2020-07-12 18:48
K
2020-07-12 18:54
Germany is one of the best countries in the World. They pay reparations for 2 World Wars, they lost both, they are giving money to lower-tier EU countries, but they are still top3-5 economy in the World. I'm proud to say that there are a lot of people with German blood who live in USA.
2020-07-12 18:57
#153
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Russia Kamunist
I've noticed that too. Nationalist and free market ideas seem to be on the rise in Sweden actually
2020-07-12 19:26
+99999999999999999999999999999999
2020-07-12 20:39
It has since late 80's, but big media and the established political parties has tried to undermine and ridicule those who even dare to question/speak about the "socialist/liberal" movement that really kicked off during the 70's.
2020-07-13 11:17
its true
2020-07-12 20:20
You don't say? Just look at the majority of jermans on this site and its quite clear that they've been drinking so much koolaid that they're now swimming in it.
2020-07-13 11:13
I'm not brainwashed my friend
2020-07-13 11:14
they are brainwashed by USA and other big powers who won ww2. we brainwashed every german, to make them forget: germany is the home of germans; Austria, Silesia, Bohemia, west and east Prussia are undeniable part of great germany; german nation is the real and only owner of germany; german is the greatest and best nation in the world; germans have the right and obligation to fight for the interest of germany; german swords are made to conquer lands for german plows; to lose the war is the real guilt, the only way to make germans not guilty anymore is to win the next war and kill ones who killed germans and robbed german lands. thanks to our brainwash, germans are now completely emasculated, not having the motion to revenge, not have the will to make germany great again.
2020-07-13 11:21
they are brainwashed by USA and other big powers who won ww2. we brainwashed every german, to make them forget: germany is the home of germans; Austria, Silesia, Bohemia, west and east Prussia are undeniable part of great germany; german nation is the real and only owner of germany; german is the greatest and best nation in the world; germans have the right and obligation to fight for the interest of germany; german swords are made to conquer lands for german plows; to lose the war is the real guilt, the only way to make germans not guilty anymore is to win the next war and kill ones who killed germans and robbed german lands; power is justice . thanks to our brainwash, germans are now completely emasculated, not knowing who they are, not knowing where they are from, not seeking the lost german lands, not having the motion to revenge, not having the will to make germany great again.
2020-07-13 11:26
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