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European Freedom of Speech
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Argentina Berazategui 
twitter.com/WMPolice/status/128234195619.. I cringe when i see Europeans actually GENUINELLY believe they have freedom of speech...you don't even know what freedom means pimpims what are you talking about? hahahahahaha
2020-07-13 02:27
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KKonaW FREEDOM
2020-07-13 02:27
LOL they arrested a 12 year old over a tweet????
2020-07-13 02:28
#27
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Germany SL3ID3R
12 year olds have been arrested for threatening to shoot up a school lol
2020-07-13 02:46
Lmao where is his right to say whatever he wants?
2020-07-13 03:08
Gone. Reduced to atoms.
2020-07-13 10:05
Yes. Why should I get punished if I order a murder with the words I utter. Where is my free speech?
2020-07-13 12:06
Exactly, you get it
2020-07-13 13:24
#97
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Lithuania Janbob
There is no freedom for rightists in this world
2020-07-13 14:00
expected from a fucking burger to not understand what freedom of speech means
2020-07-13 13:39
It is self explanatory, isn't it?
2020-07-13 16:35
#96
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Lithuania Janbob
Rightists dont have rights in leftistic world
2020-07-13 13:59
Autistic rights matter
2020-07-13 16:35
#93
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Lithuania Janbob
Leftistic world
2020-07-13 13:59
United Shitdom is more NA than European politics and culturewise
2020-07-13 02:29
basically budget USA
2020-07-13 02:36
#34
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Germany hjngvnhgg
UK and US, both trash.
2020-07-13 02:59
Ok
2020-07-13 10:06
you are litereally NA with worse food 👌😟
2020-07-13 14:03
Nah there is a culture difference between uk and na. The problems uk face are different to na. People keep to themselves a lot more. Food is nice everywhere, depends if you know the area or not. Gordon Ramseys kitchen nightmare in america and britian proved it. Also america has loads of land withstand relaxed land laws and UK has strict land laws.
2020-07-13 14:13
okay you are right, you are literally the austistic version of NA with much worse food your food is literally dogshit, watching UK defending it is like seeing a mentally handicapped person pretending he didnt shit his pants while everyone is just playing along to not make him feel even worse 👌😟
2020-07-13 14:16
Ok, you're wrong though.
2020-07-13 15:03
maybe, there are def situations when you shouldnt lie to the cripple like in the case of the food with the UK 👌😘
2020-07-13 15:03
Yeah but you're still wrong. 🤣
2020-07-13 15:06
Europoors seething
2020-07-13 02:30
Do you enjoy being a slave in the modern age?
2020-07-13 02:31
What makes you think I'm a slave?
2020-07-13 02:32
USA flag
2020-07-13 02:32
#4
2020-07-13 02:33
#67
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Norway Markus98h
Lol, u broke
2020-07-13 13:07
nt vermin
2020-07-13 13:14
america aka the guys that opened disney world with the most cases of corona lol...
2020-07-13 02:33
Scared of the flu?
2020-07-13 02:34
#80
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United Kingdom Hammondo
Well a lot of Americans have died from it.
2020-07-13 13:31
0IQ Burger detected
2020-07-13 15:29
#30
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Germany hjngvnhgg
expected from NA retarded XD
2020-07-13 02:52
#10
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Brazil ;---)
europe is a joke. ( brazil is also a joke xD)
2020-07-13 02:34
Fak i was going to say that brazil has more corona than all of europe combined but you edited :(
2020-07-13 02:37
#16
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Brazil ;---)
i knew somebody was going to say something about brazil kkkkk 300 iq move 😎😎😎😎
2020-07-13 02:38
#31
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Germany hjngvnhgg
the whole world is a joke
2020-07-13 02:53
#33
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Brazil ;---)
at this point it is, we live in a clown world my friend. But not the world, the earth and its nature is beautiful, humans are a joke.
2020-07-13 02:59
i see no problem in arresting racist kids, they should put them into labour camps until they lose their racist thoughts and can be a member of the society
2020-07-13 02:35
Ofc the Putin supports state brainwashing
2020-07-13 02:37
i do support brainwashing as long as its for the greater good
2020-07-13 02:38
Hitler thought indoctrinating the youth against Jews was "for the greater good" and look what that did People's opinions and words are of no business of the state.
2020-07-13 02:43
i dont care what hitler thought racists are just useless people, they only do harm.
2020-07-13 02:44
You should care what Hitler thought, because it's very relevant to you and your opinion. For example, Hitler thought Jews were useless people who only did harm. It is not for you or the government to decide what can and can't be said.
2020-07-13 02:47
+1 He doesn't agree with this because brainwashing with propaganda is normal procedure in Russia
2020-07-13 12:06
I almost every single UK soldier fighting in WW2 would've switched sides if they could see the future 👌😎
2020-07-13 14:05
implying that racism is bad
2020-07-13 02:42
#82
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Finland KassaK
yes
2020-07-13 13:35
Yes! The gulag from russia never did anything wrong... lol
2020-07-13 10:08
Flag checks out HAHAHAHAHA
2020-07-13 15:31
This grown man actually doxxing a kid omfg
2020-07-13 02:40
6.500.000 Pounds /year Salary 883.000 Twitter followers, Star of his team. But lil 12 y.o virgin tho.
2020-07-13 02:49
#40
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Finland Miroyev
Also threatened to go to his house on top of the racism
2020-07-13 03:13
Kid deserved it.
2020-07-13 09:57
this is just sad
2020-07-13 02:41
Can't believe that in my country, taxpayers' money goes towards prosecuting preteens for offensive words online, and then the police proudly tweet about it like they're actually doing something useful. The UK becomes more of a joke every day. Obviously I don't agree with racism, but I'd rather risk being offended than have my words and thoughts policed.
2020-07-13 02:41
First of all you are getting a few things wrong here.. Ofc one might say. not really big news. First you mix a bunch of things up with your points. Talking about freedom of speech overall has nothing to do with saying things thats against the law for good reasons. like its not freedom of speech to be allowed to say you have a bomb when you walk into an airport either, its something that causes problems, the same with racism and threating someone. But that is ofc just the first mistake you made to try to come up with some point you dont have. Second trying to make it about European vs something, or in regards to what they have or dont have. Its a bit like saying all left handed people speak english. That ofc make no sense, since people that are left handed live all over the world and thus speak different langauges. You cant speak about different nations with these things. Sure in many ways Europe work together, not enough ofc, but well we as a race just never really get any smarter and learn from things. however there are different laws and what not, so your point to this makes no sense, has nothing to do with freedom of speech, or Europe as a whole. But one nation, but again nothing to do with freedom of speech. Its not hard, freedom of speech dont mean you can say anything you want without anything being read into it. ofc you have to answer for what you say, and if what you say actually break a law because of the harm those words can cause its an issue. In the US you are allowed to fire your guns, thats all good. but if you fire them at a person its not really good anymore. You are allowed to drive a car most places in the world. its all good. until you drive it in to bunch of people, then its not really okay anymore. But that dont mean you can say they are not allowed to drive a car any more in that nation. Freedom of speech is speaking your mind on something. not attacking, making threats or causing harm to others. Words are actually some of the most deadly we have in this world. Words have killed millions. and to try to simplify it like you do its just proving how dump humans can be, and why we never get pass the same issues, but just keep doing them same mistakes over and over. Always looking back, what we had, what someone did. Instead of ahead to what we can get, what we could do. So silly how people think doing things that have only killed, destroyed and halted us as a race will somehow work or be different the 68948458 time we try it out. The Sheep follow the flock.
2020-07-13 02:42
De_stroyed
2020-07-13 02:43
Too much sense for hltv bro
2020-07-13 03:14
Here in Ro we actually have ... I can say what i want ... from the n word muslims/gipsys/hitler/stalin ... does not matter
2020-07-13 02:56
go ahead say the n word to a black guy and see what happens XD
2020-07-13 03:03
I said here in Ro ... Here are almost no black ppl and those who actually are blacks can take a joke like ... Thats why i dislike america so much .... if u are black u are black and u should accept it
2020-07-13 03:06
They may not even know what it means lol
2020-07-13 09:56
they know ... even the gipsys are taking the jobs as u can see ... yes ppl are racist but if they call u names dont matter at all ...
2020-07-13 10:22
csce.gov/international-impact/criminal-d.. You have terrible laws but maybe they're not enforced???
2020-07-13 12:59
not enforced...
2020-07-13 14:42
Good ol' Latin culture 😂👍🏻
2020-07-13 14:50
😂👍🏻😂👍🏻 +999
2020-07-13 14:50
#35
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Finland Miroyev
Freedom of speech has its limitations, like you can't go around telling you are gonna kill somebody. Just for example in the name of freedom of religion you can't treat women poorly or sacrifice animals. Same goes for any other freedoms.
2020-07-13 03:03
#79
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Australia z3ro_
I agree with you but then is it truly freedom?
2020-07-13 13:28
#106
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United Kingdom Hammondo
Freedoms are inherently difficult. One person's freedom can infringe on anothers.
2020-07-13 14:29
When your freedom start empeding on the freedom of others maybe? Like their freedom to live ^^. Not arguing, just something debatable.
2020-07-13 15:48
#106 said it pretty well Argument that literally any words should be acceptable is mostly just used to support racist agenda. Nobody ever claims death threats are freedom of speech
2020-07-13 18:27
#146
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Australia z3ro_
Look I agree that with you on the blatant disrespectful comments and that saying things that impede others' freedoms should not be allowed, but I was just wondering what the definition of freedom meant to others. On a side note, lots of the times when it comes to speech, these things are subjective. Sometimes people can be shouted down and called racist or sexist when they are actually not, without a chance of a civil discussion.
2020-07-14 00:36
Yeah I definitely agree on that
2020-07-14 19:06
#42
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Sweden god_sdy
Calling someone n*gger = freedom of speech? lmao. Expected nothing less from HLTV really It's not your right to be racist against anyone. Hopefully Sweden follows suite and takes care of youth running rampant on Internet in the same way. 12 yos shouldn't be on the internet without supervision in the first place so good on him that he got caught red handed and have to live with the shame for the rest of his life.
2020-07-13 09:44
Why tho ?
2020-07-13 12:10
#84
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United Kingdom Hammondo
It's kinda important that it is allowed. You have problems if you make it illegal, you push the racists to only be racist in private, creating private racist groups. You also don't give others a chance to argue against the racists.
2020-07-13 13:41
#86
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Sweden god_sdy
In this case, I don't think the boy is actually racist at all. But hes just another kid that trolls the internet without consequence (or so he thought). Which is why the police were set to find out whoever it was behind this and detain him, regardless of age. Teaches the lil brat a hard earned lesson. As for actual political views then last time I checked you are allowed to have whatever views you want. Only reason these people get into trouble is because they go around everywhere and preach hate. If they were peaceful quiet racists they wouldn't have any issues.
2020-07-13 13:45
#94
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United Kingdom Hammondo
I didn't read what he wrote but it sounds like he incited violence, which is illegal.
2020-07-13 13:59
But, the freedom of speech, does not include hate-speach, which this probably is. Multiple racists tweets ey?.. But, i dont expect 14-year-olds of HLTV to understand the difference of that.
2020-07-13 09:51
Hate speech is a 1 sided myth. Preaching shit against western society == Okay Preaching shit against asians/african/any other society == bad White people saying n word == bad Black people saying white people are the devil == good I don't really care what people say against white people, but the accountability only goes 1 way and Hate Speech is a term used to persecute those whose opinion makes people on 1 side of the political sphere uncomfortable. You only support hate speech laws because it persecutes those you disagree with. When the pendulum swings back around and they use the powers and foundation you set up and supported, against the people you agree with... you only have your selves to blame. Apart from that have a good day mens))
2020-07-13 10:27
#53
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Sweden god_sdy
It is about how you phrase it. Freedom of speech: Africa is an underdeveloped continent with largely a poor and uneducated population. Hate speech: Africa is a continent with too many dumb n*ggers. See what I did there?
2020-07-13 10:42
I get it, one is crass, one isnt. But I'm just saying be careful. Because your children may be dealing with a different government that is a racist, white supremacist or w.e. Using the same powers that would prosecute hate speech today, they can basically use it to prosecute people with the same views as who you support today. By simply changing a line in the definition of what classifies as hate speech. The whole system is set up in order to have a authoritarian regime in Europe. If there ever was a government that takes a authoritarian stance, it will be via hate speech. Just some food for thought. I don't think people that support hate speech have bad ideals or anything. I believe it's short sighted though, there are consequences to allowing the government to use their power to control what people say and don't say, history says this is a slippery slope :)
2020-07-13 11:14
You think you're virtous and empathetic??? you're not.
2020-07-13 13:00
#76
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United Kingdom Hammondo
People preach against other countries, religions, cultures all the time. You are just lying.
2020-07-13 13:24
Not my point. Only certain opinions get punished under hate speech. Its unfairly handled in the correct scheme of things. It makes hate speech seem like a means to beat certain hateful opinions away while maintaining other hateful opinions. It is a means to shape society, and it ain't no morality about it.
2020-07-13 13:46
#98
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United Kingdom Hammondo
Yea hate speech is a bad idea. I think only inciting violence should be illegal.
2020-07-13 14:01
#72
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Norway Markus98h
Free Speech should incloud hate speech, because if Hate speech isnt allowed, the left will claim everything a right winger say is hate speech. Look how it backfires, real coronavirus advice being filtered down as fake news, thunderf00t even get he’s video removed for fake news, when infact, it’s argueing that corona is a real threat. Being against taking in refugees is now racism. Sharing a video of your dog doing a n*zi salute get you in prison, the state killed he’s dog because they claimed he cant be a responsible pet owner. Free speech should not incloud threats. It’s not the news media, big tech, and activist who should define by feelings what is allowed to say or not.
2020-07-13 13:19
#78
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United Kingdom Hammondo
Inciting violence should be illegal though.
2020-07-13 13:27
+1 exactly what i was getting at
2020-07-13 13:48
I don't see how the ability to threaten people over social media is something worth protecting.
2020-07-13 10:33
it's actually not legal to do what that kid did in the US lol he threatened the guy
2020-07-13 13:08
Lol, in my country everybody can say what they want
2020-07-13 12:10
Coz westerners don't understand azbuka
2020-07-13 13:07
If only UK police were so focused in preventing those grooming gangs as they are in catching 12 year old children... I mean, wasn't the police who took a blind eye to the grooming gangs for years in fear they would be called racists ? Raping thousands of white british girls for years by paki, ups sorry, by musl, damnit. BY ASIANS should be considered a worst offence than a 12 year old kid sending instagram messages to a full adult with more than twice his age right ? UK at it's finest
2020-07-13 12:14
#66
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Estonia mr_abdul
americans who think europe is 1 country 😂😂😂😂😂🤣🤣🤣🤣
2020-07-13 13:04
Fakeflagger????
2020-07-13 13:12
#87
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Estonia mr_abdul
??? what are you saying, u are a fakeflagger or I am?
2020-07-13 13:45
Im weirded out by you saying that because Estonia is probably the only free country in Europe. You shouldn't be defending them wtf.
2020-07-13 13:46
#105
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United Kingdom Hammondo
That's his point genius, all European countries have their own laws.
2020-07-13 14:27
All European countries have hate speech laws, Estonia has the lightest ones and they culturally reject them, their elites dont enforce them at all. But the Germanic countries are extremely fascistic with this nefarious legislation. NEFARIOUS! Latin Europe is 50/50. Not one single country in Europe has free speech like U.S.
2020-07-13 14:30
#109
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United Kingdom Hammondo
True but I like to think of it as a phase, growing pains.
2020-07-13 14:37
#70
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Ukraine ksay
na is basically a scuffed england no wonder
2020-07-13 13:09
I mean the only country that has codified freedom of speech is America and even there it's being eaten away at by parts of the government and higher education.
2020-07-13 13:15
#104
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United Kingdom Hammondo
What about the European court of Human rights?
2020-07-13 14:26
pfffft what about them?
2020-07-13 15:11
#125
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United Kingdom Hammondo
They have a codified freedom of speech. Every country in the EU has to sign up to it, and there are other countries as well.
2020-07-13 15:16
#75
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New Zealand rOtten_97
Lmao bro what they did is weak as fuck and pretty shitty. Arresting a 12year old boy for saying a few words online? Get over yourself and grow up. And as for 'europeans having no freedom of speech', when I used to live in eu back 2 years ago, I could say anything offensive about anyone (I still can) without any kind of a problem. No one would care cos no one is brainwashed like americans, or other forms of westeners. I can freely say things about other races, sexualities, and pretty much anyone you can think of (population is 99% white btw) and no one will give a shit, if its funny they'll probably laugh too. The world today is really fucked and its only getting worse
2020-07-13 13:30
#81
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Sweden god_sdy
And you're implying what? That you can't do that today? Depends on what you mean by "offensive".
2020-07-13 13:33
#91
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New Zealand rOtten_97
I live in nz now, so I can't really say much offensive things, but in large parts of europe I still can. I've seen a lot of comedians, movies, games and what not, be completely destroyed by pc culture. And by offensive, I mean saying words like n*gger or f*ggot or whatever words we have that english doesn't (not trying to actually offend anyone or saying it in a negative way, we just say them with no problem from others or from media). That is free speech. Being able to say absolutely anything (unless you are threatening to kill someone)
2020-07-13 13:57
#103
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United Kingdom Hammondo
You are confusing things. Freedom of speech is your legal right to say something. What you re talking about is not taking responsibility for the things you say, like a child. You cannot say things without being judged for them, and at times people in society will treat you differently for it It's called being mature.
2020-07-13 14:24
#116
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New Zealand rOtten_97
Wdym taking responsibility? For what? Me and my friends never hurt or intend to cause damage to anyone. But we did freely say any and all words and phrases without anyone actually caring what we said (not to anyone directly). Those words are not threatening to anyone and it is our right and freedom to say them. People older will not care in most countries where english is not the first language, as it should. Also, why the fuck could blacks (for example) say the n word, whilst other races can't? This double standard seems pretty childish to me
2020-07-13 15:03
#123
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United Kingdom Hammondo
Many people don't intend to hurt others but do, it's a big part of law. Why should people not care? How do you know no one cared or got hurt? There are major historical reasons why black people can say the n word, or more important why white people shouldn't. I was originally referring to the comedians, movies, and games bit.
2020-07-13 15:08
#130
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New Zealand rOtten_97
Well I don't know if you know, but most of europe speaks a language different than english, does not have any other population other than whites, and the history is not the same as you brittish or french or whatever. This means people will generally not care if someone says n*gger because they do not have black people in the country, the word doesn't have any meaning in the language, and the people do not feel responsible for something someone else has done 200-300 years ago. When I say n*gger or f*ggot, I either say it as a joke, when I'm angry, or if its relevant to the conversation. And I will not be in trouble in most european countries cos no one really cares. Only the places where english is the first language, and bigger countries like france, germany netherlands care enough to make a big deal out of something stupid. And if you're talking about slavery, the blacks were actually the first race to ever enslave someone, and they did it to themselves (learn about mesopotamia if you haven't). And please, there are more white people 'offended' by those words than there are black.
2020-07-13 15:40
#136
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United Kingdom Hammondo
Your ignorance is absolutely crazy. Firstly there are many counties where the majority of people speak English. No country in Europe has an only white population. The word "nigger" is actually known everywhere in Europe and has its only close translation in other languages. For example the Spanish word is "negro". How do you know who is and who is not offended by it? Whats is your point that slavery existed back with Mesopotamia? It existed in all ancient civilizations. What does it matter if it the first slave was in a black civilization? What is your point?
2020-07-13 15:50
He did say in his tweets he will come to his house as well.
2020-07-13 15:33
+999999999999999999999999999999999 RIP Europe
2020-07-13 13:41
#92
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Lithuania Janbob
There is freedom of speech only for leftists, if you are rightist, no freedom for you
2020-07-13 13:58
+99999999999999999999999999 Cuckrope
2020-07-13 14:36
#95
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United States ClickHole
Imagine disagreeing that Europe has the best freedom of speech in the world when you're from a 3rd world shithole country hahaha and btw 1 anomalous case does not account for the entirety of Europe because this is only happening due to this BLM bullshit that will thankfully die down soon.
2020-07-13 13:59
Found the Californian leftist.
2020-07-13 15:07
being racist isnt what freedom of speech is for
2020-07-13 14:46
#115
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United Kingdom Hammondo
Well saying racist things shouldn't be illegal. Inciting violence should though.
2020-07-13 14:53
UK=/Europe
2020-07-13 14:49
Hey Juan it's been a while (It's Otello)
2020-07-13 15:03
OTTYYYYY <3333 Oh my god mon frere!!!! Hows it going??? Is Italy opening up now? are you still in Venice?!?!?!? Give me one of those famous French hugssssss
2020-07-13 15:08
Supppp mate. I'm very good. Enjoying sunny summer days in France right now. How are you? Still preaching libertarianism here and there? Massive bro hug to you <3 <3
2020-07-13 15:54
YesChad.png Anxious for quarintine to be over. You flagged France when you were in Italy and now you flag Italy when you're in France XD.
2020-07-13 15:56
Trying to spice things up for my FBI tracking agent :D
2020-07-13 15:57
Lmao go look what the kid was sending to him. He will probably only get a slap on the wrist. Just to make sure he stops this shit. twitter.com/wilfriedzaha/status/12822735..
2020-07-13 15:26
#131
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Turkey TheKaiser
FREEDOM OF SPEECH DOES NOT GIVE YOU RIGHT TO BE RACIST. Thanks for coming to my TED talk.
2020-07-13 15:36
so to you, freedom is about being able to shout racial slurs at minorities without any consequences? And we don't know what freedom is...
2020-07-13 15:37
2020-07-13 16:02
#133
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Brazil Triarii
Racists are not human, I see no problem
2020-07-13 15:43
Hurting someone's feelings shouldn't be illegal.
2020-07-13 15:48
the UK is known for arresting people based on internet comments
2020-07-13 16:06
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