It should have been Mouz’ major
It should have been Faze’ major
Imho we shouldn't count majors won by NA teams
No. They lost because of the Astralis veto.
Wait. Wasn't EVERY team subjected to player break?
Also, wasn't Astralis already dominating the whole thing for a good year, at least? That argument (player break) is as solid as me saying that I deserved this major if it wasn't for my GPU stop working sometime in 2002 - i could've make it big..
Forgot to mention: Liquid is probably the most overrated team out there.
nah astralis anti stratted them hard they had no chance
Majors aren't being held after player breaks anymore, also it is stupid to not count majors just because of a player break as a good team should suffer because of one.
it's all liquid's fault, don't blame the player break, they were fucking around on social media and not practicing while they shoulda kept their standards and trained if they really wanted it that bad. They got cocky.
Hell they barely even scraped qualification through the group stage considering it was 3-2 and beat mouz by the skin of their teeth
Blaming the player break is really... Ya know, like blaming spring vacation for not handing in assignments in time?
Dude, to win a fucking major you need more than just tangibles (raw skill, tactics, form). you need the winners mentality, you need to feel like its already yours before the first match starts, you need the aura.
Liquid are a bunch of beta cucks, they are never going to win a major, it's literally impossible for them.
The most tactical team in counter-strike has barely played any tournaments and so has much much more time than you to prepare, not only that they get a player break, and you expect to have an easy time in a major? 0/8
Liquid was shit. Every major they choke.
Starladder was for nrg, if they won against astralis, they won the major
Yeah astralis should be fined and given the major to Liquid cause they cant keep their calm and keep their form cause they cant play lans for a month. sure XDD
AVANGAR DESERVED THAT MAJOR AND Y'ALL KNOW THIS
100% Agree. Russel, Keith, Nick and Jon all deserve majors under their belts.
no offense that's bullshit man if you don't play well you don't deserve to win Liquid massively under performed during the Major and they deservedly lost to Astralis in the Quarter Finals i remember 2019 when Liquid was rolling over everyone and winning event after event i worried for them that come the Major they would run out of steam and lose and i was correct but Astralis managed to hit Peak Form and won their 3rd straight Major they deserved it the way they performed in the championship rounds they absolutely Crushed Avangar in the final
Lets talk more about how ENCE and Vitality just ****** a free grand final spot away....
The real final was Astralis vs Liqiuid in the quarter finals... the winner of that match had a free major win after..
Because liquid has been really good after the major right?
Lets be real... this should have been BIG's major.
The only reason they didnt win the major is because of the player break. Its a big flaw that some majors are being held after a player break because it decreases the quality of the major heavily.
Thats also why I think that ESL One Cologne 2019 was more important than the Starladder Major.
Thoughts? Should we just not count majors which are held after player breaks?
Not true, Astralis clearly studied very hard for that match and brought out the 200 iq plays, they suprised Liquid on the veto and anti strated them very hard, Astralis put more hard work and effort into this matchup and therefore they won, its unfortunate that this major was just after the player break but it's the sign of a champion to work through breaks and you cant be mad that the team that very clearly put in more effort won
Let's be honest, Astralis outplayed them by picking vertigo which is widely regarded as the best counter-play in counter-strike's history.
Moral broke a shocked Liquid and evantually they completely cracked.
Blaming it on a player break is a bit weak, when evidence has no patterns regarding player breaks.
all majors count i guess.
astralis gave liquid a class of what competitive cs is. they outstrated them in any way possible.
astralis won. liquid just stay pew pew while astralis pushed themselves to their competitive limits
player break my ass.
lulquit got r%@ped on vertigo.
Every team had a player break.
Only reason is bcs Astralis played on it, esl one xD delusional na fan
Because of 2019 majors valve decided to do the dates of the majors known beforehand and have it at the latter part of each season.
Just so it would be a seasonal build up for the major.
No point in having the peak of the season in February/March or September/October
Actually NRG deserved it way more than TL, they played a lot better.
100T (or renegades) were the only team to take a map off Astralis in the major prior to that major, therefore it should have been 100T for the major win (the facts dont lie)
cry is free
oh major Astralis win unimportant
ESL One Cologne LuLquid win important
i mean just grow up.
And NRG got clapped just as hard if not harder.
And they never really bounced back from the loss
ESL One New York 2019 semi final loss to Astralis again
Blast Pro Series Global Finals 2019 finals loss to Astralis again
ESL Pro League season 10 losses to Fnatic and Astralis again.
ECS Season 8 finals loss to Astralis again.
Dreamhack Malmö 2019 losses to Optic and Grayhound.
These shouldn't be majors after the player break
That's fucked up
I think ENCE had huge chances ,how they fall in front of 100T then renegades was too shameful
Cmon guys judging by Liquid's form in the qualifiers, it showed they weren't ready to win. They barely scraped by 3-2 and narrowly dodged mous. Yeah it sucked for a Liquid fan but they played so brainlessly. Hope they get their sh!t together and do better at the next major. Maybe win it who know?
hahahahahaha this is just sad
player break destroyed liquid +111111111, after that group stage everyone shouldve known they wouldnt beat astralis
if it was after cologne, liquid wouldve swept everyone without breaking a sweat
-winning a major
lmfao classic excuses. shouldve prepared and practiced.
they didn't win bcuz they lost overpass against astralis at semi/quarter-finals like idiots, if you can't focus for an important match, then wtf do you expect
i guess its up to the teams to decide if they want to play to win the major or not. if you do, you dont do player break right before it.
It's good to dwell on past CS:GO Majors as an example for the future but taking anything away from the team who already won the Major is a little unfair.
should've could've would've
Cant wait to see the topic: WW2, lets be real it shouldve been Hitler's victory