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Change One Thing in CS History
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Germany HIGHESTKGBIGFAN 
As the title says, if you could change one event, transfer, match result, etc. What would you change?
2020-07-14 15:05
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2020-07-14 15:06
I wonder where the scene would be at if Coldzera never joined to carry Luminosity.
2020-07-14 15:07
#55
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Brazil sSkyline
he never carried Luminosity or any other team
2020-07-14 17:08
He carried
2020-07-15 12:16
#193
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Brazil sSkyline
he might have most kills but SK, Luminosity and MiBR were a full head team
2020-07-16 09:49
no one cared luminosity with zqk when coldzera joined they became relevant team
2020-07-16 14:29
#250
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Brazil sSkyline
well he didn't carry, he was just the final key of the team
2020-07-17 15:42
Still mad because of the semi final sad brother
2020-07-16 22:23
Faze actually live up to their expectations in 2018
2020-07-14 15:07
Yeah I'd hope so too
2020-07-14 15:07
+1
2020-07-14 16:51
#68
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China HEIDASHUAi
+1
2020-07-14 17:40
++++1
2020-07-16 22:26
csgo
2020-07-14 15:07
#6
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Czech Republic Rewask
allu hitting the AWP shot on Dust.
2020-07-14 15:08
#59
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Finland 5way
what "the shot" u mean?
2020-07-14 17:22
#61
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Czech Republic Rewask
ESL One Katowice 2015, Major final, fnatic vs NiP. It was 14-14 on Dust2 and allu got CSGOed while holding short. NiP lost the map and then the series 2-1.
2020-07-14 17:30
#166
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Finland 5way
oh yes now i remember
2020-07-15 05:12
In my mind he still hit it, just that the game didn't agree.
2020-07-14 17:38
#71
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Czech Republic Rewask
Exactly.
2020-07-14 17:57
#120
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Brazil !nStinct
In all mind
2020-07-14 21:09
Do you have a video of it. I dont remember that one
2020-07-14 21:48
Unlucky
2020-07-14 21:52
+1
2020-07-16 22:20
FaZe winning the Boston Major.
2020-07-14 15:08
+1111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111111
2020-07-14 15:26
+1
2020-07-14 20:29
loser
2020-07-16 21:50
Someone's vewy angwy :(
2020-07-17 09:57
Mcskillet vroom vroom
2020-07-14 15:09
#80
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Denmark JKTP
Omg dude
2020-07-14 19:56
#154
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United States Jaksin
He cars
2020-07-15 00:06
TaZ not getting the car from VP CEO
2020-07-14 15:10
This is probably the biggest thing that could change the vp legacy
2020-07-14 15:11
+1
2020-07-14 16:33
can you give me the tl;dr here, obviously i understand he got a car bc you guys just said it, but what was the significance of that?
2020-07-14 20:54
only him in the team got the car, and then internal problems etc etc
2020-07-14 21:01
i see thx mens
2020-07-14 21:02
Jealous kids (snax, byali)
2020-07-14 21:50
Yea that's pretty silly, an adult would be happy for their teammate and would use it to leverage their own benefits in the company. But hey, most people under 25 don't think that way unfortunately.
2020-07-14 22:30
I mean in this case its literally kids that play computer game 🙄👍 they were making like what, 15k euro a month? Its 60k in polish currency, its a lot. And its before tournaments winnings, scam sites sponsors or streams, etc. But no its not enough. Greedy shits
2020-07-14 22:58
neo i believe said when taz got a car from vp owner instead of being happy for a teammate some of the team members became jealous and chemistry wasnt there
2020-07-15 17:28
OVER A CAR LMAO HAHAHAHA, they were never even friends lul
2020-07-16 10:41
+999
2020-07-16 10:08
#10
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Poland FitPolak
I would kick Snax instead of TaZ from VP.
2020-07-14 15:10
Gambit -zeus Cloud9 - stewie2k both of them were ridiculous and shouldn't have happened
2020-07-14 15:11
well gambit didn't kick him, zeus just knew he could win more with navi than gambit
2020-07-14 15:11
Nice cs knowledge. That was not the cause at all
2020-07-14 17:45
idc, in the end majoirty kazakh team won major before NA and thats all that needs to be said
2020-07-16 11:39
Na'vi at the time was dysfunctional. they 0-3'd at the krakow major (july 2017), while zeus left gambit (the major winners) in august.
2020-07-14 20:07
Thats not the whole story either lmao Gambit themselves were having major chemistry issues before krakow and werent even a top 10 team
2020-07-16 09:54
+gambit kicking zeus’ right hand (coach)
2020-07-16 11:40
s1mple winning that clutch against ence in Katowice 2019
2020-07-14 15:11
+1
2020-07-14 15:34
so they would have lost 2 major finals to astralis without even making double digits once, great idea!
2020-07-14 16:36
XDXDXD +8
2020-07-14 20:21
Wtf??? Why you copy me
2020-07-14 20:21
Doesn't matter, probably they would do better that time, but that moment was heartbreaking for navi fans and it was shameful to lose against ence
2020-07-15 17:18
You realize by katowice astralis were as strong as london yet navi had gotten weaker
2020-07-16 09:55
I think that it wouldn't be as fast as it was in London, navi would have strong mentality for finals, but no one could beat Astralis at that time
2020-07-16 11:00
#15
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Norway Martin2310
would change the finals between c9 and faze, faze deserved that win soo bad..
2020-07-14 15:11
why lol?
2020-07-14 15:13
#34
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Germany I_car
Flag, flair
2020-07-14 16:36
Like c9 didn’t deserve it?? Stfu they lost bitch cry is free
2020-07-14 17:09
Lmao this clown thinks c9 deserved a major Hahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahhahahahah
2020-07-14 20:22
C9 1 major Faze 0 /closed
2020-07-14 20:55
Read what i wrote dumbwreck Deserved or did What did i write???
2020-07-14 21:01
/open rush 1 major niko 0 /closed
2020-07-14 21:02
Perfect American brain.
2020-07-14 21:37
/open tarik 1 major guardian 0 /closed
2020-07-14 21:37
/open BabaBlackSheep69 2 braincells dragoe 0 /Closed
2020-07-14 22:11
/open stew 1 major rain 0 /closed
2020-07-14 22:11
/open Rain 1 dick stewie 0 /Closed
2020-07-14 22:13
/open Can confirm /Closed
2020-07-14 22:13
/open /closed
2020-07-14 22:23
/open Bello /Closed
2020-07-14 22:24
You’re a fucking idiot
2020-07-15 17:07
/open I agree /Closed
2020-07-15 20:14
#192
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Other stekin
faze chocked, they suck ass. /closed
2020-07-16 03:58
#17
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Poland Kazk
Atlanta 2017 final
2020-07-14 15:12
Faze winning major in 2018
2020-07-14 15:12
S1mple winning clutch against ENCE at Kato Liquid winning Colombus or Cologne
2020-07-14 15:14
bigger what if could be if liquid wouldn't choke in columbus
2020-07-14 15:15
#22
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Turkey lDarKl
No toxic player in cs ?
2020-07-14 15:14
Who is toxic
2020-07-14 16:53
#148
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Turkey lDarKl
its not pro cs history its cs history so did you understand now ?
2020-07-14 23:52
The would make my life 1337 times better
2020-07-14 17:38
I would count Fnatics win against LDLC at DH Winter 2014 as legit
2020-07-14 15:15
fnatic would probably have 4 majors by now if that would happen and be seen as 2nd best team ever
2020-07-14 15:15
Yeah, I have no doubt they would end up winning that major
2020-07-14 15:21
#37
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Germany I_car
They are still seen as second best team ever?
2020-07-14 16:37
+1 they were so good chat was full of vac every round ez4fnatic
2020-07-14 16:42
#81
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Denmark JKTP
It's debated. Some think it's Luminosity/SK
2020-07-14 19:59
They are trolling
2020-07-14 21:13
Eh no? Astralis number 1 Either Fnatic or SK/Luminosity number 2
2020-07-14 21:46
Lumisk arent anwhere near fnatic
2020-07-15 01:33
Fnatic has 3 majors - in Early counter-strike
2020-07-15 11:05
Ok?
2020-07-15 12:12
#176
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Sweden Lagge15
Probably the same people who harass Richard Lewis, Leaf, Xeppaaa and follow everything Fallen and Gaules are saying.
2020-07-15 12:41
Well that's true
2020-07-15 12:56
Fnatic won more t1 events in 1 year than sk/lg in their entire existance (5-6 years)
2020-07-16 11:35
Yeah and i get that, but it's widely agreed upon that tournaments become worth more and more the more recent they are. SK is obviously a more recent team I do think Fnatic is number 2 do And honestly i think VP is number 3
2020-07-16 12:24
#27
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United States codgun
Removing the Liquid choke or more specifically them winning Columbus and Cologne.
2020-07-14 15:26
yeah, especially columbus
2020-07-14 15:29
#45
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United States codgun
if only EliGE + adreN (?) got along w/ s1mple. if they had a core of nitr0, EliGE, and s1mple today I guarantee you their summer run would've been so much more iconic and might've ran right through the major too.
2020-07-14 16:47
#29
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Europe sosiska228
ence to not bench aleksib
2020-07-14 15:27
#111
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Finland Khroni
Don't think they'd be #1-3 but definately still a trophy contestor
2020-07-14 20:57
Ence were on the decline even before kicking aleksi, they wouldnt have stayed top 5 maybe not even top 10 but the kick sped up their downfall much faster
2020-07-16 09:57
Liquid not chocking the major vs LG
2020-07-14 16:36
#46
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United States codgun
There's a world where Liquid has some 3-4 majors
2020-07-14 16:51
No
2020-07-14 17:08
#82
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Denmark JKTP
oof
2020-07-14 19:59
Wtf lol
2020-07-14 20:23
It sounds ridiculous, but if you think about it it's actually true.
2020-07-14 21:03
If you had the power to change history then anything can be true. But sadly you do not, so liquid 0 majors
2020-07-15 02:22
#168
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United States codgun
They very easily could have won both Cologne and Columbus. It's not too unrealistic to think they could've gotten lucky with any of the next, especially London, Katowice, and Berlin given they were a top 5 team throughout all of them.
2020-07-15 08:55
but they didn't so there's no point to think about this :)
2020-07-15 13:14
#191
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United States codgun
adding that "but it didn't happen so this discussion is irrelevant" is itself an irrelevant point.
2020-07-16 00:56
Liquid had no business winning cologne london or katowice Berlin if no player break they couldve won Columbus if they didnt choke they wouldve won Other 3 no chance they were purely outclassed and destroyed
2020-07-16 09:58
#221
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United States codgun
London and Cologne are a stretch that would have required both luck and peak form but both cores later proved they were capable of beating SK and Astralis. Katowice is one of the biggest examples of the Liquid choke. Shortly after Katowice, Liquid had their Summer run so seeing a bit of that in a hypothetical Astralis/Liquid final isn't too crazy.
2020-07-16 21:49
+1
2020-07-15 05:26
ENCE winning katowice Major and continuing with Aleksib
2020-07-14 16:38
lmao allu kick aleksib anyway kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
2020-07-14 16:40
Manchildish post
2020-07-14 19:50
not manchild if not man
2020-07-14 19:51
wait fu
2020-07-14 19:51
#83
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Denmark JKTP
AHAHAHAHAHAH
2020-07-14 20:00
Weird flex
2020-07-14 20:46
+8888191920100
2020-07-14 20:23
nothing "navi still 0 major" in 2030 will be enough
2020-07-14 16:39
GuardiaN wins his first major final and goes on to become the bestest GOATest of all the bests
2020-07-14 16:40
Faze don't choke boston but only cause I think guardian deserve major
2020-07-14 16:44
Avangar winning the starladder major
2020-07-14 16:45
#91
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Pakistan LoOuU2
Can't blame them, Astralis too stronk
2020-07-14 20:18
would have been epic
2020-07-16 10:36
change one result so i can win at betting
2020-07-14 16:51
Olof never got injured
2020-07-14 16:52
surprised i haven’t seen anyone talk about VP vs Tec-9s at the 2017 major
2020-07-14 16:53
#84
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Denmark JKTP
I have never heard this one before. Good job you came up with another excuse for why a team unfairly won.
2020-07-14 20:01
i never said they didn’t deserve to win, just a lot of people would’ve preferred VP to win since they were fan favourites at the time and they were coming up to the end of their careers. they wanted them to go out with a bang
2020-07-14 20:14
#90
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Denmark JKTP
I mean... of course Astralis did end up winning and all that i mean they are the goat team but look past that it was looking like it was gonna be Astralis' only major. "Dev1ce is one of the only all-time greats that never won a major" - Thorin.
2020-07-14 20:15
That awp shot from allu.
2020-07-14 16:54
Ence to win the major Final
2020-07-14 17:01
#58
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Brazil zzzzzzznt
fnx not kicked
2020-07-14 17:10
#60
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United States ShawnM
VP beating astralis in 2017 Or liquid not choking vs LG at Columbus
2020-07-14 17:26
I would have prevented the ibuypower-incident from happening.
2020-07-14 17:32
i wish that would happen, maybe the na scene would be almost on par with europe since we na would have enough talent for 5-6 top 30 na teams
2020-07-15 12:30
ESL one cologne Final,result Should have been the french era, and more importanrly à stop to FNC
2020-07-14 17:37
Cyx and girl friend not having the car accident :(
2020-07-14 17:39
you just brought up some deep memories man :((
2020-07-14 21:35
the day i felt like some good friend of mine died even though i didn't know him personally, just through interviews etc. but all the shared hours together through cheering, joy, sadness all which was made possible because of this game.. it really felt deep, even today.
2020-07-14 21:50
Vp to win 2017 major
2020-07-14 17:39
Boston major Obviously
2020-07-14 17:44
#72
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United States JoshDAA
Faze not choking in 2018
2020-07-14 18:04
#75
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Poland Tricker1
Qkly not hitting the jump shot
2020-07-14 18:11
s1mple not knifing nitr0 at 15-12, rip 1k
2020-07-14 19:53
Valve never Nerfed AWP KennyS GOAT?
2020-07-14 20:03
#87
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Hungary Gulaash
i wouldnt let VP to release TaZ.
2020-07-14 20:09
Navi wins London Major final.
2020-07-14 20:10
#92
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Denmark Dust_2_Go
I would make Nexa and huNter stay on CR4ZY cuz they were a promising team and Also G2 honestly were mediocre for like 2 - 3 years. And then they just randomly pick up 2 Balkan players and become a top 3 wtf. Fucking undeserved.
2020-07-14 20:19
#93
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Pakistan LoOuU2
Surprised no one's actually mentioning Kjearbye leaving Astralis given the hatred towards Astralis here for bring the best ever which was made possible after Magisk was added.
2020-07-14 20:21
who cares about astralis lets be honest
2020-07-14 20:53
Yes boring team no one cars Except astralis fanboys
2020-07-15 12:22
Boston major C9 ....a team with shit2k lmaoooo
2020-07-14 20:24
fnx not getting the boot
2020-07-14 20:29
cs apologetics 101, but a true one
2020-07-14 20:30
1.6 would be the biggest game in the world, updates to fix old bugs and the game be alive for decades.
2020-07-14 20:34
Kinguin going through with Signing Niko back in the days for 40 000 euros
2020-07-14 20:34
G2 not choking overtime vs envy in cluj napoca 2015.
2020-07-14 20:35
+1
2020-07-15 01:48
Not sure if i remember that correctly but wasn't there a time when Fnatic made it possible for Keyd Stars or idk to attend a certain tournament and after that the brazilian scene grew that big? If so i would change that.
2020-07-14 20:36
#112
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North America Straf3R
liquid won Berlin Major..... that or faze won boston 2018
2020-07-14 20:58
-boddy +scream
2020-07-14 20:58
+111111
2020-07-14 23:56
titan/vg not moving to a team house in 2014
2020-07-14 21:04
That's easy, I'd have an anticheat please. Just that.
2020-07-14 21:11
VP winning cobblestone in the VP vs SK game in EPICENTER 2017. That would get VP’s confidence back and they would still be at the top.
2020-07-14 21:18
FaZe winning the Boston major
2020-07-14 21:20
Faze not getting fucked by flusha in Katowice final, hurt more than Boston if it wasnt a major
2020-07-14 21:36
delete CS SOURCE
2020-07-14 21:37
0/8 delete cs 1.6
2020-07-14 23:55
DELETE NIKO AND SERBIANS FROM THIS GAME
2020-07-14 21:48
toxic
2020-07-16 22:28
0/8
2020-07-17 11:15
faze win boston
2020-07-14 21:51
VP winnig with Astralis in Major
2020-07-14 21:52
#145
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Brazil Elakk
NiP making changes earlier
2020-07-14 22:28
F0rest back 18 years old and dominating all players
2020-07-14 23:59
CaptainMo DD Karsa and 2 more winning a major
2020-07-15 00:01
#153
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Russia Slavaa
delete navi from this game
2020-07-15 00:03
wtf
2020-07-15 02:22
report him
2020-07-16 21:51
#227
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Russia Slavaa
reported
2020-07-16 22:14
fuck off
2020-07-16 21:51
#228
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Russia Slavaa
lol
2020-07-16 22:15
+1
2020-07-17 11:13
0/8
2020-07-17 11:13
#155
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Europe Pflatzi
either faze winning the boston major or astralis not winning 4, it was enough after london imo. Everything in aftermath was boring to watch
2020-07-15 01:00
Sk winning atlanta major semis or G2 winning cluj-napoca major semis
2020-07-15 01:44
Fnatic being disqualified vs the frenchies because of the Olof boost (dh winter 2014). Olofmeister would have had #3 majors and 2 major mvps. Sad day :(
2020-07-15 01:49
mibr getting s1mple and flamie instead of stew and tarik
2020-07-15 02:25
i feel good cuz that didn't happen
2020-07-17 11:09
MIBR beating BIG in one bo3 on LAN
2020-07-15 02:27
brazil dont win major
2020-07-15 02:28
plus fucking one 1st major against NaVi and 2nd against my s1mple :(
2020-07-16 22:17
#165
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Other Zytoep
def faze not choking boston, cloud9 died later anyway so it didn't really matter whether they won or lost
2020-07-15 02:32
Faze winning IEM > Cloud9, specifically though just wanted to see Guardian get the biggie, really deserves it, such a shame. To be honest if IEM weren't hosted in US I feel they'd have taken that final personally, poor guy.
2020-07-15 12:46
Olof didn't suffer from injury in 2016
2020-07-15 12:47
Astralis signing magisk
2020-07-15 17:22
+1
2020-07-16 10:10
not sure if that would change things a lot, gla1ve is the key element
2020-07-16 22:27
I would have liked Scream's potential on CSGO to be more exploited but since he played in teams with shitty IGL's like "Happy" or "Ex6tenz" he could never be in the best roles.
2020-07-15 17:24
coldzera not hitting that jumping double
2020-07-15 17:29
+100
2020-07-17 11:08
Mouz win against Liquid Starladder major
2020-07-15 20:23
pls don't die cyx.... ez german csgo era
2020-07-16 09:52
#200
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Ukraine MouZi
Zeus don’t leave gambit after winning major
2020-07-16 10:05
Immortals winning over Gambit final major
2020-07-16 10:08
they disbanded so who cares
2020-07-16 10:40
-kjaerbye +magisk never happened
2020-07-16 10:09
Avangar winning vs Astrlis in Berlin final. AdreN would have 2 majors and maybe avangar wouldnt be shit
2020-07-16 10:45
VP win ELEAGUE 2017, which they really deserved to win
2020-07-16 11:04
If they truly deserved to win they would have, rofl
2020-07-16 22:29
kjaerbye leaving astralis so that astralis wont become such a consistent top 1 ever
2020-07-16 11:39
CSGO. 1.6 was a better game, the average age wasnt 12, and people played it for the love of it / competition. They didn't get into it because the skins were cool and you could gamble / make some money streaming.
2020-07-16 11:44
#217
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United Kingdom KaffeK
Sunny doesn't kill himself on Nuke and Mouz gain momentum and beat Faze in Boston quaters.
2020-07-16 11:45
Fnatic boost wins them game vs ldlc and they go on to win the whole thing.
2020-07-16 12:29
FACEIT Major Final 2018 :((
2020-07-16 21:51
S1mple not trying to knife nitro in d2 which cost navi the entire series
2020-07-16 21:51
faze winning vs c9 or navi winning vs luminosity
2020-07-16 22:26
Delete the birth of the Fallen era in Brazil.
2020-07-16 22:29
#238
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Europe Lupuu
ENCE 2-0 Astralis in katowice
2020-07-16 22:32
#240
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Other stekin
Simple wins the 1v4 clutch vs ence at katowice major 2019, and winning the entire tournament
2020-07-17 10:55
I still cry to this day when i watch that round :(
2020-07-17 10:58
Boston Major - C9 lose in challenger stage
2020-07-17 10:56
NaVi vs Luminosity Gaming I would change result into Navi smashing LG and winning the f*ckin major
2020-07-17 11:05
hltv.org/matches/2292890/fnatic-vs-titan.. lost 400$ on fnatic, my first big loss + i was a kid My life could go another way if I wouldn't bet on fnatic this day
2020-07-17 11:08
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lvlUP
3.70
AVANT
1.20
Paradox
4.36
Dignitas
1.30
Secret
3.36
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