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Boombl4 is the problem
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Brazil NegoNey 
Na'Vi with Zeus: let's have some strats and use well all of our players, Edward and me will bait and the others will trade Na'Vi with Boombl4: let's have no strats and put all four to bait for S1mple and wish he make an 5k so we win the round
2020-07-14 18:51
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#1
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Turkey Xetax
+1
2020-07-14 18:51
bump (same account)
2020-07-14 18:52
? What?
2020-07-14 19:01
one of the most stupid opinions I've ever heard about something really. It's not an abuse, it's just the fact that you are coming here to write this crazy non sense and then you bump to attract more attention to this stupidity xDD oh dude... get a life seriously, do something important in life rather than this.
2020-07-14 19:03
I was dont know this details
2020-07-14 19:11
Wtf is wromg with you man Its "I wasn't knowing this detail" Preserve the great legacy of hltv Its the least i can expect from boomers Are we on the same page?
2020-07-14 22:48
Why the fuck are you calling me fat Yes we on the same page hltv.org/forums/threads/2337137/boombl4-..
2020-07-14 23:03
Hltv boomer***
2020-07-14 23:04
WTF boomer = left4dead boomer 🙄👌🏿
2020-07-14 23:11
Afail
2020-07-15 05:53
Wat
2020-07-15 05:54
Afaik***
2020-07-15 05:56
I dont follow
2020-07-15 05:57
One of the most overrated IGL's
2020-07-14 18:53
+1
2020-07-14 18:54
#24
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Iceland Cirros_V2
overrated? Who ever said hes good?
2020-07-14 19:04
i did, boombla #1
2020-07-14 19:18
Lmao.
2020-07-14 22:48
NaVi media and delusional NaVi fans
2020-07-14 19:29
#49
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Moldova shawww
Faze fan who hates NaVi because they destroyed Faze. Ok,boomer
2020-07-14 19:49
Na'Vi only big event before cologne was a fucking dreamhack summer Faze have at least 12 big events won
2020-07-14 19:54
#56
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Moldova shawww
Well and now,in 2020?Na'Vi won Katowice,won WeClutch and qualified for the major. What has Faze accomplished?Yeah,I understand they had roster changes,so they'll need more time before they'll show their potential.Probably on LAN they will be better
2020-07-14 20:02
Imagine calling WePlay tournament win as achievement(NaVi should close 2-0 32-0 all teams but they had 2 overtimes against Nemiga and GY).Yes,they won Kato because NiKo really don't good IGL and because of his strange calls NaVi closed them 16-14 2 times
2020-07-14 20:08
#62
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Albania JonZherka
how about Katowice, the only relevant event of 2020?
2020-07-14 20:15
Kato = Katowice
2020-07-14 20:15
#65
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Albania JonZherka
yea using irrelevant excuses to discredit their win
2020-07-14 20:17
This moldavian boy said what NaVi destroyed FaZe 16-14 =/= destroy,and FaZe had big chances to knock NaVi out from Kato run
2020-07-14 20:19
#71
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Netherlands Titanos
They are p relevant, NaVi sucks, no point in denying that. Sure kato they looked good, but nowadays? Losses to GY, Syman and Hard Legion just cannot happen when you are the best team in the world.
2020-07-14 20:22
Imagine being so retarded that you don't know that Kato means Katowice.
2020-07-15 10:37
#150
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Albania JonZherka
tbh I didnt read
2020-07-16 00:35
#70
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Moldova shawww
It's fucking online dude,top teams always play worse online than on LAN That's why tier 2-3 teams play better now.
2020-07-14 20:21
Astralis still won RtR without huge problems somehow Online is not a reason
2020-07-14 20:23
#76
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Moldova shawww
It is,look at mousesports for example,completly destroyed now.
2020-07-14 20:30
They destroyed because krieg nerf and karrilul toxicity
2020-07-14 20:33
#78
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Moldova shawww
that's true as well
2020-07-14 20:35
Do u really think it's possible to close everyone 32-0? Even astralis wouldn't win without losing round
2020-07-15 05:59
Astralis closed C9(tier5 team at that time) 16-0 at Kato 2019 somehow
2020-07-15 16:21
Compare astralis at prime and navi, no one will ever come close to their level, sk lost to 16 0 renegades in 2016 on dust2, at that moment sk were top 1 team
2020-07-15 17:10
And renegades were tier 3 team
2020-07-15 17:10
Playing with shoowtime has stand-in Tier 45 player Astralis was bad with snappi an tier 2/1,5 player imagine then with someone like netrick in the team
2020-07-15 17:23
But still losing 16 0 to tier 3 team even if u have bot as stand in
2020-07-15 17:24
0/8
2020-07-14 19:22
Flair
2020-07-14 20:10
0/8 because noone considers him a great IGL yet. So how is he overrated?
2020-07-14 20:56
immagine won the most important champ after major and be called overrated igl
2020-07-15 17:24
Navi with Zeus : let's fucking use ak's Edward, instead of s1mple and electronic and lose the fucking gun without firing a shot meanwhile s1mple and elec almost wins us the round with pistols Navi with boombla - let's give the guns to elec and Sasha and try to help them so they win is the round
2020-07-14 18:54
LMFAO With Zeus S1mple, Electronic and Flamie use to be gods Edward always being a good entry, killing one and dying, Zeus with good grenades and stuff Now only s1 have space to play with elec making entry and baiting, he still have 1.10 stats cuz he's a god and deserve a better team
2020-07-14 18:56
Because Edward and Zeus use to make the worst positions Only 2 baiting Now they have 4 baiting to s1mple
2020-07-14 18:59
"Good entry FRAGGER" fucking electronic was the entry and still is the entry of NaVi Edward was the middle man, he was supposed.to trade and yet he was dogshit
2020-07-14 19:01
Edward was the entry, that now is elec Did you use to watch the matches?? Lmao
2020-07-14 19:10
Then you don't know definition of word "good" and "bad" Caralho madafaka
2020-07-14 19:13
your hight or what?
2020-07-14 19:48
Both
2020-07-14 19:55
Xaxaxa
2020-07-14 23:09
Edward was very rarely the entry. Zeus' tactic was to use the awp to get opening picks, hence why s1mple had such good performances under him. Failing that, on the execute it was flamie/electronic going first.
2020-07-14 23:15
hltv.org/stats/teams/players/4608/Natus%.. Oh look, there are two people in red One of them is flamie, who is famously inconsistent And the other one is Perfecto, the new guy, he is the Xyp9x of NaVi, they don't need huge numbers from him And boobmla 1.0 rating, the igl, igl is supposed to play worst position by ur logic and look, he's making it work
2020-07-14 19:03
Perfecto is dogshit lmao
2020-07-14 19:58
Perfecto less clutches than s1mple,imagine comparing defecto with Xyp9x(Xyp9x has 1.10 rating on same role as Perfecto).broky is more similar to Xyp9x than Perfecto
2020-07-14 20:11
+1
2020-07-14 22:34
Broky = awp Xyp9x = support If ur comparing player clutch potention then we can compare ZywOo to xyp By ur logic it doesn't matter what role a person plays, if he clutches a few rounds he can be compared to xyp9x
2020-07-15 09:33
imagine comparing xyp9x with perfecto:DDDDDDDDDDDD LMAO
2020-07-15 09:28
And?
2020-07-15 09:33
that you have no clue at all what the hell are you talking about
2020-07-15 09:34
Both are support players, great clutchers, not selfish ;)) Yes, ofc, you hltv *bigbrain* people know better than everyone else when you don't know shit
2020-07-15 09:42
perfecto is average clutcher at very best. far from xyp9x...and you can compare players despite their roles anyway. like it was already said he has even less clutches than s1mple...and statement that he is the xyp9x of navi is insult for xyp9x. "Yes, ofc, you hltv *bigbrain* people know better than everyone else when you don't know shit" yea thats definition of you
2020-07-15 09:45
How is that insult to xyp9x? If you don't know the meaning behind "The Xyp9x of NAVI" then don't talk, please
2020-07-15 09:48
yes its insult for xyp9x...he is support of navi, not xyp9x of navi because he isnt even in the same dimension with xyp9x
2020-07-15 09:49
So, I can't compare a support player to support player unless both of them have won 4 majors, has had an era, same rating, it doesn't matter if one of them is not playing anymore so we don't know how good he is
2020-07-15 09:58
you can compare them easily. you can compare their achievments, their individual awards, their stats and then you can say who is clearly better... but you didnt compare them at all by statement "perfecto is xyp9x of navi" and just bcs perfecto is also support he is FAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAR from being xyp9x of navi. like i already said he isnt even from the same dimension as xyp9x. thats deluded statement based on literally NOTHING but the same role. lets say that every shi**ty awper is s1mple of his team just bcs he plays with awp just like him. what kind of logic is that lmao...
2020-07-15 10:02
And what does it require to be a xyp9x of a certain team? Explain to me, cuz I don't know ur deluded requirements
2020-07-15 10:03
And how do u know that xyp is on the same level is he hasn't played for months? Ur just going of history and think players will stay in the same form
2020-07-15 10:04
Xyp9x of his team is someone who has awesome individual perfoance and huge impact on his team and not Ever single support player just bcs he has same role. And xyp9x still played this year with 1.10 rating. You act like he is innactive for year lol.
2020-07-15 10:07
Astralis even don't know when he will comeback At max he will play 2/4 of the year And that 1.10 rating becomes more irrelevant
2020-07-15 10:09
But that still doesn't make perfecto the xyp9x of navi. He is nowhere near xyp9xs level and his impact. How cant you understand such a simple thing lol
2020-07-15 10:11
Ok, we will ignore number of maps, opponents played, role in the team and team results. Stats will say everything
2020-07-15 10:29
stats and history is surely way, WAY more important and accurate than your statement but you know what? ok... lets call all support players the xyp9x of their team, lets call all awpers the s1mple/zywoo of their team, all igls gla1ve of their team even tho that they are literally nowhere near them just bcs of the same role. flawless logic... im done here. bye
2020-07-15 10:42
Ur dumb I mentioned reasons why Perfecto is xyp of NaVi, but the only thing you said was "xyp9X IS oN aNothER LEvEL" that's a good response without proving why Flawless logic, idiot Bye
2020-07-15 10:45
And doesn't teamwork help your individual performance? Look at 2018, I disagree that all Astralis players were TOP20, but look, they had an era and excellent TEAMWORK And teamwork helps ur performance, so u have good stats
2020-07-15 10:11
And isn't xyp9x also one of the reason behind it...? I guess he is right?
2020-07-15 10:12
And other Astralis members are behind that as well? So xyp has a good performances. Put xyp in case, I wanna see how he's going to have 1.1 rating between NiKo, coldz, rain
2020-07-15 10:27
#25
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Russia win73ry
Flamie was arguably worse than Edward before he was kicked. What are you talking about?
2020-07-14 19:04
Only with stats, he was always making important kills and hight impact
2020-07-14 19:09
#31
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Russia win73ry
It’s vice versa.
2020-07-14 19:14
zeus good with nades? XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD he STILL cant throw the nade from T pop down on train hahah, even casters laugh with him that after xxxxxx years he still cant do it, rip mechanics xddddddddddddd😋😋😋
2020-07-14 19:13
He can, i even remember his ace on train
2020-07-14 19:47
0/8
2020-07-14 18:54
Flair checks out
2020-07-14 18:57
#7
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Ukraine Najara
Boombla career: none fluke major spot none Navi IGL
2020-07-14 18:54
+1 Zeus>>>>>>
2020-07-14 18:57
+1
2020-07-14 19:20
b1ad3 is the problem
2020-07-14 18:57
Hi's a nice coach but he's ego is something really big
2020-07-14 18:58
that 5_seconds_till_the_end executions... nah, dude
2020-07-14 19:00
#12
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Finland OldStager
+1
2020-07-14 18:58
#14
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Russia mcs#
Na'Vi with Zeus: -cloud9 -fake cloud9
2020-07-14 18:58
YES
2020-07-14 19:21
Nope s1mple is the problem
2020-07-14 19:00
0/8
2020-07-15 10:48
+1
2020-07-14 19:02
R u dumb or just b8ing?
2020-07-14 19:14
He's right tho But it's not because of Boombl4. B1ad3 is the problem.
2020-07-14 19:16
I'm just right and only Na'Vi fanboys disagree
2020-07-14 19:47
+1
2020-07-14 19:20
someone said
2020-07-14 19:22
Bait is real
2020-07-14 19:24
yeah and all 4 Na'Vi players do for simple
2020-07-14 19:49
+electronic
2020-07-15 09:33
if Boombl4 has million number of fans i am one of them. if Boombl4 has ten fans i am one of them. if Boombl4 has no fans. that means i am no more on the earth. if world against Boombl4, i am against the world. i love Boombl4 till my last breath... die hard fan of Boombl4. Hit like if u think Boombl4 best & smart in the world...
2020-07-14 19:48
+1 but the real problem is definetely s1mple
2020-07-14 19:49
s1mple won't complain about having space af to play He's just to conformable Blade and boobitch are the problem
2020-07-14 19:51
Boombl4 at least plays as an entry on some maps. I agree that he is not a good igl, but he is not the problem. Flamie and Perfecto are less impactful than him.
2020-07-14 19:49
because they can't even have space to play They just run like retards, die and hope that s1mple trade them
2020-07-14 19:52
0/8
2020-07-14 20:24
hahahaha dogs bark, the caravan goes
2020-07-14 19:51
#57
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Russia ToughGuy
Good bait
2020-07-14 20:03
not a bait when it's true
2020-07-14 22:33
#92
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Russia ToughGuy
guy who is not even speaks russian telling who is the problem i think its a bait
2020-07-14 23:53
cyka blyat
2020-07-15 00:26
#58
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Ukraine Gigska
+1. but I guess real igl in navi is s1mple
2020-07-14 20:05
lul s1mple literally cant call
2020-07-14 20:15
#66
Zeus | 
Ukraine Gigska
lul he call every fpl game and everyone listen him cuz they scary to be kicked from fpl)
2020-07-14 20:18
lmao,are u joking? fpl?
2020-07-14 20:18
#69
Zeus | 
Ukraine Gigska
yea. just check his streams
2020-07-14 20:21
Sadly true
2020-07-14 22:33
#84
Zeus | 
Ukraine Gigska
why? he is still better as igl than boombla
2020-07-14 22:43
I'm talking about fpl Na'Vi literally don't have a caller, it's the same estruture and fiesta every single game even Hard Legion could read they game and won 2x0
2020-07-15 14:14
navi junior beat Hard Legion many times cuz they have better igl than boombla from main squad ?
2020-07-15 17:50
Another shit thread full of people who watch cs but actually don't understand it. Let me explain for you. Na'vi as a whole is the problem, not boom or flamie or any1 else. Na'vi as a team simply doesen't work sometimes, specially against top tier teams or with no skill gap difference because their T side sucks bad. They might be good at defending but as T there's no real strategy. The na'vi classic rush "×" in the last 15" isn't a thing anymore specially when you play against coordinate teams. Nobody baits nobody there, you expect some space for s1mple since he is way above the others in term of skills, i dunno from where this shit came out, bait. This went in for to long already and people with open eyes can see it.
2020-07-14 20:27
Sorry Mr. I understand CS "nobody baits anybody anymore" That's the guy who understands cs? Lmao
2020-07-14 22:32
You and the bunch of retards thinking s1mple baits need to delete the game. I explain that na'vi sucks on t side tl:dr. Not boom or the x player is guilty but the whole team, pleb
2020-07-15 21:24
LMFAO, English people always knowed for having no brain
2020-07-15 22:25
Nt but im not englando, try harder
2020-07-16 18:30
+1 He is stupid
2020-07-15 06:09
you? Yessir
2020-07-15 14:12
Team doesn't work and has no strategy but no one to blame? ok...
2020-07-15 09:49
-boomblyat +dosia major winner
2020-07-14 20:27
#100
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Japan Peine
Their ct isn't bad But their T side tho... >Let's wait for a mistake for 1;20min >If the ennemy team didn't make any then rush the nearest site and hope to get a bomb plant
2020-07-15 09:12
Very few IGLs can mess up CT, just run defaults. The CT half is the kind of half where if you actually can do something special it just shows how good you are, the first guy to come to mind for me was Seang@res, great anti-strats ^_^ So just like almost every other IGL Boom4l manages to not mess up CT, but doesn't do anything special. And ya his T side is reprehensible
2020-07-15 10:40
I'm a navi fan and I'm fan of Boom4l but he has to talk to zeus for strats, He's not an igl tbh
2020-07-15 09:14
+1
2020-07-15 14:11
+1
2020-07-15 09:23
i wouldnt blame only boombl4. i mean why the FCK did they pick blade who is known for his 5sec left strats with aggro(i would even say overaggro/impatient) players like boombl4, elec, s1mple and actually even flamie? this whole idea is just retarded...
2020-07-15 09:31
Yes, thats why NAVI with Zeus was winning, and NAVI with Boombl4 was winning
2020-07-15 10:10
Every day is the same and you become a robot
2020-07-15 10:29
zip zoo bum eat my ass
2020-07-15 14:11
Edward is one of the most unsung heroes of CSGO, fucking sacrifices himself every round just so he can let "stars" get the site. Always drops guns to teammates and stuff. Thats the thing that makes me really sad. Some players are washed and yet they feel like they have more to give, guys like GuardiaN, who could still possibly make a comeback. Then you have guys like Edwards, who is done. Edward has given all he has to give, same thing with Zeus. Makes me sad that this happens to legendary players like them.
2020-07-15 10:37
+1
2020-07-15 14:10
0/8
2020-07-15 10:49
expected
2020-07-15 14:10
Strats are not necessarily bad. But I feel like some of the strats are so stupid. I like the gimmicky strats but they are too slow often waiting for the last 10 seconds to launch their T side.
2020-07-15 17:28
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