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National Hero
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Georgia Megobari 
Who was your national hero in the entire history of your country?
2020-07-15 11:36
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Zinédine Zidane
2020-07-15 11:37
good choice mens)))
2020-07-15 12:30
hahaha I still remember that headbutt
2020-07-15 12:31
I mean, honestly what he did was good. The guy deserved it.
2020-07-15 13:08
You forgot to write his second name Yazid. You hate afrikan muslims but its okay when one Algerian is your "national hero in the entire history" hahahahah unluko maluko
2020-07-15 13:20
mad terrorist triggered
2020-07-15 13:31
me you mean? im not even close, Im from a country thats completely the opposite, won both world wars killing hundreds of thousands nazis and later on many terrorists from middle east aswell. I kinda guess you should be triggered. Point is how french are biggest gays in the world, EVER.
2020-07-15 13:38
#230
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Austria mo_bamba
this shit bait try harder next time
2020-07-15 18:30
He was born in France so he is french. He chosed to play for France so he is a French hero. Don't know what your problem is, sensitive simp that you are.
2020-07-15 13:58
I was born in Nigeria, am I black Nigerian?
2020-07-15 14:04
? what ?
2020-07-15 14:20
you can take any nationality you want, it still wont change who you are. he is a muslim algerian with french nationality. french have never been muslims, always christians, so he cant be real french. but nt muslim immigrant
2020-07-15 14:32
L M A O this is the dumbest thing I've ever read french have never been muslims, always christians, so he cant be real french HAHAHAHAHAHAHAH
2020-07-15 14:36
nt trying to be funny north african muslim
2020-07-15 14:38
France is one on the most atheist country in the world since the Revolution, i dont feel christian at all so gtfo.
2020-07-16 19:13
Nationality is not a real tangible thing. It's something written on a piece of paper (or computer these days.) You can be from anywhere, and combine it with any religion which isn't illegal in your nation. That's how it is. Your opinion changes nothing about how the laws work.
2020-07-17 03:06
You do understand that he’s agreeing with you and mocking what “CALM_BAITER” said, right?
2020-07-21 12:28
Indeed, but I still had a point, which nobody else made, so I made it :D
2020-07-22 12:46
> "You forgot to write his second name Yazid. You hate afrikan muslims but its okay when one Algerian is your "national hero in the entire history" hahahahah" >"french have never been muslims, always christians, so he cant be real french." Accusing French about thinking something you think too? Btw this dude thinks the opposite, so it's obviously ok for him that a Paper French can be a National Hero.
2020-07-15 19:02
#700
2020-07-21 12:28
mate, he was born in france, he is french. thats basic as that... no matter where his parents or his family is from.
2020-07-16 19:34
so if your parents are both brazilian and your pregnant mom and dad travel to vacation in china and you get born there you are chinese? ching chong baby? hahahahaha omfg how can you be that stupid even?
2020-07-16 21:23
yes, that's exactly how it works lmao
2020-07-16 21:31
dear god...no wonder everyone consider you 4th world country with that education
2020-07-16 21:33
#277 just proved it to you. don't reply me.
2020-07-16 21:34
#389 is called proof 277 is just as educated as you, so his opinion is not even relevant in his own house
2020-07-16 21:45
stop baiting and don't reply.
2020-07-16 21:46
you shouldnt even be allowed on the internet being that stupid lol
2020-07-16 21:46
why you keep replying? stop!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
2020-07-16 21:47
Name checks out. I suppose you were baiting the all time. If it wasn't bait than, Zidane was born in Marseille (france) and he parents probably in Algeria so he has both nationalities (according to wikipedia) and I suppose he has a french ID or passport. So it's enough for him to be french and play in France.
2020-07-21 12:44
that is how it is like in in brazil and the USA . i know it does not work like this in the rest of the world but this guy seems to not know that. ... in brazil if you are just passing by and drops a kid. you can register the kid here, name it and and that kid will have every right to school or heathcare as any brazilian. that is basically how it works in countries with imigration history. but i know a guy that was born in switzerland but their parents were from brazil and US, and he is not in anyway swiss.
2020-07-17 01:25
#603
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Qatar zablitz
He was born to Algerian parents tho
2020-07-18 14:49
He got a french wife, gave christian names to his kids, fought his heart out for the french national team Thats what the french assimilation system used to be until the 80s Those kind of muslims are not the problem in France
2020-07-17 06:58
Nt classifying ppl by religion in 2020
2020-07-17 17:09
Yes ur nigerian if you are born there....and u are from brunei as well if u live there? Point? Nigerian roots then i guess but now u are bruneian or wherever u live...
2020-07-16 13:08
dear god what have I read. you do know that you can be a kid from 2 french people and born on mars but you still would be french? I sincerely hope you were joking and that you are not THAT dumb
2020-07-16 14:33
So if im born in austria and live my life here im german and not austrian? Id consider myself as both wtf?!
2020-07-16 17:02
no actually thats exactly what YOU said. If you are born in China and your parents are Jens and Silke its damn sure wont make you CHING CHONG. is that a little closer for your brain?
2020-07-16 17:50
Sure ill be chinese if i KEEP LIVING THERE
2020-07-16 19:03
And german cz of my parents
2020-07-16 19:03
you really need to go back to school and learn the difference between nation, nationality, place of birth. I would be ashamed if I was as stupid as you honestly.
2020-07-16 21:28
Austria and germany literally same country
2020-07-19 20:13
No lmao....so if im born in brazil and live in austria i cant be austrian, i have to be brazil? Thats bullshit that leads into racism and stuff like that
2020-07-19 21:17
I didnt say anything about brazil. Austria is unofficial state of germany.
2020-07-19 21:52
Thats a stupid comment lmao....germany is actually a worse version of austria....we are a very Independent country, dont need our neighbours at all tbh
2020-07-20 07:44
nt germany
2020-07-20 18:14
We have as many things in common as we have with other countries....the language is similar, ok, but there are many dofferent accents and we dont understand every one And we have a dark history but thats it
2020-07-20 20:13
my ex is austrian and I have lives in germany many years of my life. Trust me, you're german
2020-07-21 01:08
Aha u gotta know, not me whos actually living here for 20 years lmao Best thing is that ppl who moved here from germany feel like austrian as well
2020-07-21 19:29
lets put it like this. You are closer to a german from bavaria than a bavarian german are to someone from lets say kiel
2020-07-21 19:31
Some bavarians dont even count themselves as german;D Sure but im as close to someone from lwiw in west Ukraine as to someone from stuttgart if u wanna use that as an argument
2020-07-23 14:17
No. you would be martian or whatever its called. With french roots.
2020-07-16 19:36
yikes. The place of birth (POB) or birthplace is the place where a person was born. Almost all countries outside the Americas instead attribute nationality based on the nationality(-ies) of the baby's parents (referred to as jus sanguinis). I hope you can now delete internet. I know I would.
2020-07-16 21:27
"Jus sanguinis ("right of blood") is a principle of nationality law by which citizenship is determined or acquired by the nationality or ethnicity of one or both parents." Basically that is why i have italian nationality. Thanks for proving my own point when u were trying to look "superior" with a bunch of unbiased arguments. Guess you can delete internet now aye? @edit: btw, my girlfriend is swiss. Her dad is Italian and the mom is spanish. At hers id it says she is swiss(she has italian passport/id, spanish id, and swiss id. All of them says she is swiss.) Time to educate urself better mate
2020-07-16 22:13
you are lying as you cant have triple European Union citizenships. But nice try kiddo
2020-07-16 22:15
got no reason to lie, especially for someone as demented as you. But yea bro thanks for proving how dumb you are with your own argument. Next time at least try to google the terms you are trying to impose over people xD
2020-07-16 22:19
I even checked swiss law now. It basically says you cant get nationality if you are born in switzerland (unlike america), only if you are child of swiss parents which just one more time proved that you are lying even about that.
2020-07-16 22:21
Ahhmm?! U can get the swiss citizenship by being married 3 years to a swiss andiving there for 5 years easily...some extra points come in as well but they are basically fullfilled in a usu marriage anyways ..nice checking ur facts, took me 15 secs to find that;D
2020-07-17 14:56
Living there for 5 years and being integrated and not a threat is also enough, juvenile years from 10-20 count for 2 years each:)
2020-07-17 14:59
she was born in switzerland u dumb cunt, thats why she has swiss nationality. Jesus fucking christ @edit: even her parents can get the swiss passport if they want to, as they have worked/lived there for more than 5 years
2020-07-17 15:56
Got him there but he wont admit he is wrong lmao
2020-07-17 14:53
delusional people gonna be delusional till the end bro. thats why trying to have a conversation with such people is just pointless
2020-07-17 15:56
KEK
2020-07-19 21:52
no, you're just nigerian
2020-07-17 01:21
No, he's just an idiot 😎👍
2020-07-17 15:14
#598
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United Kingdom alcazar4
hes a hero for kicking a ball?
2020-07-18 03:49
Absolutely yellow teeth
2020-07-18 08:42
like french people have better teeth lmfao
2020-07-19 21:53
You dumb as hell boi
2020-07-16 12:44
sure I am and you are smarty. so I guess if your both parents are syrian and you are born in riyadh you are saudi arabian? AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH dear go EDIT: imagine if 2 horses fuk and horse is born in a cow stable its born as a COW not a horse ahahahahahahahahahah yikes
2020-07-16 14:35
Ok mr supernationalist lmao...thats a superstupid comparison since its different animals, but a syrian is as human as a saudi and as a french person....wtf am i even reading here
2020-07-16 17:04
you are dumbest person Ive met here honestly. YOU CAN BE BORN ANYWHERE stupido. Learn the difference between NATION, NATIONALITY and PLACE OF BIRTH. Dear fkin god.......so many stupid people on this earth
2020-07-16 17:49
Well our society propably has a very different opinion on that....
2020-07-16 19:02
you can have whatever opinion you want, its what LEGALLY correct is is what matters, and trust me, if you travel with your pregnant german mom to tunisia and get born there, you 100% will stay german HAHAHAHAHA...dear god what is even your iq...14 ?
2020-07-16 21:22
HAHAHAHAHAHA UR IQ SO LOW HAHAHAH Welcome to hltv myself:) If u live jn tunisia u can get citizenship of tunisia so im still not tunisian?
2020-07-17 14:52
name doesnt check
2020-07-16 19:08
your Reply reflects how intelligent you are
2020-07-17 11:16
"Zinedine" is kind of arab name dude
2020-07-21 18:58
he was a hero for me as well, good choice
2020-07-15 13:48
which is actually Algerian... ok.
2020-07-16 21:40
which LOL nice englado
2020-07-17 08:20
#467
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Bulgaria MuggzZ
you meen Zinedine Zywoo
2020-07-17 02:54
#480
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Brunei cyLoL
Why no Joan of Arc ?
2020-07-17 04:13
#516
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France daniel19
ofc Jeanne is one
2020-07-17 13:08
Henrik Larsen. Topscorer at European Championship in 1992.
2020-07-15 11:37
#11
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Georgia Megobari
And you forgot inventor of LEGO :D
2020-07-15 11:50
LEGOs man... love them!
2020-07-15 13:46
well didnt Denmark have an inspirational leader? football is great but aint it gone too far?
2020-07-15 12:04
We never had those(((
2020-07-15 13:45
men(((
2020-07-15 15:04
Arent you forgetting Holger? 😄
2020-07-16 14:07
Find Holger?
2020-07-17 09:28
Here, I found Holger for you en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holger_Drachmann
2020-07-17 15:17
#153
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Denmark OscarGF
Hahahaha, true.
2020-07-15 13:42
Haha :D Or Peter wessel Or Peter Schmeichel! Or Per Hækkerup ;D
2020-07-20 09:35
Stephen the Great no doubt
2020-07-15 11:37
#551
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United Kingdom X2erNaL
Fantastic choice, he was a genius at the battle of Vaslui
2020-07-17 16:03
haha thanks, he was indeed a mastermind
2020-07-17 18:41
Vasil Levski most likely.
2020-07-15 11:39
we have realy great history but resent times levski , botev ore vazov
2020-07-15 11:58
ottoman haters
2020-07-15 14:00
What would you do if you were a bulgarian living 200 years ago? Also I have nothint against turks, infaft i have a lot of turkish friends
2020-07-15 15:21
I had 2 Turkish girlfriends as well. They are cool, one of my best friend is Turkish as well. Today it is more like Turks hate us than we do.
2020-07-15 16:28
not really, only the ones who think arabs are our friend hates israel
2020-07-15 16:49
infact i support israel over palestine
2020-07-15 16:50
+1 who cares about bunch of arabs
2020-07-16 14:25
sadly our president
2020-07-16 19:13
A bunch of arabs that live much better lives in Israel than if they had their own state
2020-07-20 14:48
Everyone is otoman hater lol. Everyone hates turks as well because of that
2020-07-16 21:59
I dont hate turks, do you?
2020-07-17 15:00
Vasil Boyanov Troyanov
2020-07-16 13:08
? He is not even bulgarian
2020-07-16 14:12
born in sliven, bulgaria
2020-07-16 22:09
stoichov man)) he was a beast
2020-07-17 17:10
Bismarck probably. Or Arminius if you go very far back, he rekt the Romans and prohibited Germania to be conquered. Biggest Roman defeat.
2020-07-15 11:40
you fighting for survival while we got paid by the roman/bizantium empire to protect them from outlanders
2020-07-15 12:21
It was a fight against romanization and freedom, many would have become slaves otherwise.
2020-07-15 12:36
like actualy most wars are because of the same 3 reason freedom , wanting to be the best (power and money) and womans
2020-07-15 12:42
they fight to be free they even group up with competitive clans.
2020-07-15 12:37
bismarck was not a fan of a german state. arminius is awesome love this guy
2020-07-15 12:36
Are you stupid? Bismarck was THE man who most eagerly wanted a unified fully German state and ultimately achieved to unify the Germans. He disliked the idea of Austria joining the Reich too because they had too many foreigners inhabiting their lands at the time and he thought that would lead to trouble (which he was eventually right about..)
2020-07-15 13:16
nah bro i think he was more into Prussia but yea i agree with you
2020-07-15 13:14
Omg learn history please, really. Without him and Prussia there would be no modern German state for sure, the ideas of German nationalism were the biggest in Prussia.
2020-07-15 13:18
i agree wtf man
2020-07-15 13:19
#108
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France daniel19
Adenauer
2020-07-15 13:07
+1
2020-07-16 14:07
Come on, just say his name It was him that got germany to being the world super power
2020-07-15 13:09
Bismarck by unifying German states and beating Austria, Denmark and France?
2020-07-15 13:33
No doubt Bismarck was a "good"? man. But he also did lead a ton of war and stuff. Not very hero like.
2020-07-15 13:43
I mean he increased the German territory and won the 3 wars. Wilhelm II. and Hitler both took part in wars which led to a decrease in territory.
2020-07-15 13:48
So "heroes" don't fight in wars????
2020-07-15 14:27
Well all his wars were offensive. I don't support expansionism
2020-07-15 14:41
He did the best for *his* country, that's why he is their *national* hero As simple as that.
2020-07-15 14:52
I can't see someone that uses other people as stepping stones to make there country stronger, especially not when it's with war. No doubt Bismarck was a smart man, but so was Hitler. Why isn't he a hero? I mean what he did was even more justified (Maybe not the jew part but yeah). Because he got tons of innocent people killed and lost. Bismarck was a big time supporter of the King. That same king would lead to the disaster that was 1914-1918 ww1. If he did the best for the country he would have reformed it and created a more long sited government. He did unify it. Through terror and fear.
2020-07-15 23:09
I would like to point out a thing: " I mean what he did was even more justified (Maybe not the jew part but yeah). Because he got tons of innocent people killed and lost." Rather only because he lost - innocent people always die in the process and nobody seems to actually care
2020-07-16 09:46
Well i can't say i agree with that But then again Stalin is a hero in Russia. Atleast Bismarck had moral.
2020-07-16 12:25
You have to be retarded to think that Stalin's considered a hero in Russia mate. Most people, even in Russia, remember him as a ruthless authoritarian dictator who created one of the most oppressive police states in history.
2020-07-17 01:14
Obviously, that's what 90% of the world thinks, but there are many Russians that don't see him that way (Especially the elderly). He was strong and had Russia in his heart. They have an annual memorial for him. I have met many russians that support him and id guess 90% of the people that support communism in Russia don't dislike Stalin.
2020-07-17 12:51
Bismarck actually was the reason why we had less wars. Sure he needed to beat Austria and France in order for them to not stop us from unifying, but he actually made all those contracts with Russia etc to prevent a 2-fronts-war from west and east. Because he was smart, and after he got put off, this contracts got shit on and we went on to lose all coming wars (which bismarck prevented for centuries).
2020-07-16 09:05
Bismarck to me isn't a hero. He didn't do anything good, he fueled german power and evantually made it a superpower. That's great, were did that lead you. He killed millions of people, and the only reason why i put him higher as say Napoleon III and Kaiser Wilhelm, is because he had moral. He himself said that he knew he was gonna get "God's judgement" and that he had nightmares of all the people that died because of him.
2020-07-16 12:28
Any sources that he is resposible for millions of deaths? Or do you mean that because he made Germany strong so that the later history could happen? Afaik, Bismarck was the one to calm down Wilhelm I a lot which ended up in having less wars. That was also the reason why Wilhelm II kicked him out of his position. Since he wanted to have colonies etc like his "cousins" from england and france.
2020-07-16 12:39
Indirectly: He started the franco-prussian war casualties : 900.000 + Austro-Prussian war casualties: 170.000k + Second Schleswig War casualties: 5k + Indirectly starting WW1. I guess million isn't true, but the casualties only count actual soldiers that means civilians aren't counted. Which is a bit unfair when he bombed Paris. Bismarck initially had problems with starting war and Wilhem was strongly against war with both France and Austria-Hungary. However after germany beat france Wilhelm was eager for war. This however changed nothing cause that Wilhelm would die soon and he failed to prevent the next Wilhelm II from starting the disaster that was WW1. Kaiser Wilhlem II was not suited for being Kaiser and soured realtions with Brittain and Russia that would evantually lead to the downfall of Germany. Kaiser Wilhelm didn't actually wan't colonies he wanted money. Obviously colonies were very profitable but it was not the Kaiser but his leading advisors that suggested going to war, however the initial plan was to prevent war with Russia and France at the same time. That didn't happen after Austria did a stupid and germany joined there ally.
2020-07-16 12:51
If I remember correctly, they just had to renew the "no-attack-deal (dont know the english term) with russia around 1900. They were open for it. But stupid Wilhelm just didn't (or maybe his advisors didnt wanted it, i actually dont know the exact reason for it). But well after all, the 2 front war was not what destroyed us in ww1. We just couldnt get passed the french lines and we outplayed russia by bringing lenin to moscow. So i dont even know it that contract was important after all. Anyways, these are all different times to nowadays. War inside Europe was a common thing (which is unthinkable right now) so it's hard to blame leaders for the killings I guess.
2020-07-16 13:55
#236
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Turkey TheKaiser
He would definitely be the national hero if he didn't do some "controversial" things.
2020-07-15 18:39
OTTOOOOO
2020-07-16 19:04
Hannibal >> Arminius
2020-07-17 10:03
>wasn't Germanin >Carthage got rekt in the end
2020-07-17 10:20
nobody cars about bismarck, national hero hahahaha
2020-07-17 14:57
Uneducated people like you probably.
2020-07-17 15:10
nice,argument, shows how uneducated u are ^^
2020-07-17 15:58
How is the person unifying German states not a national hero?
2020-07-17 17:11
that has absolute nothing to do with an national hero, oh mens
2020-07-17 20:25
Of course, he made Germany the biggest power in central Europe by beating Austria, Denmark and France?
2020-07-17 22:41
so starting wars and win it by killing many people is herolike for u, ok,
2020-07-17 22:47
If a Nation never fought in wars it would not exist anymore. And btw France declared the war (shows again how uneducated you are).
2020-07-17 23:01
jeah france begin the germany denmark war, and the austria germany war, mit som opfer wie dir kann ich nicht mehr reden. dreckiger uhrensohn
2020-07-18 02:06
Retard doesn't have arguments anymore, expected. Typical braindead user who got rekt in an argument.
2020-07-18 02:44
what argument , i just cant talk with 10 iq guys who talking braindead stuff
2020-07-18 02:48
You said he started wars while in fact France started the war and got rekt. German territory became larger. Whats not heroic about that?
2020-07-18 14:46
ich fiste deine schwester .hehehe
2020-07-19 02:56
Mentally disabled kid spotted.
2020-07-19 04:49
#689
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Netherlands Titanos
or hitler
2020-07-21 01:13
No why, he ruined Germany.
2020-07-21 09:55
#693
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Netherlands Titanos
he made it the greatest it ever was tho
2020-07-21 11:52
And then he fucked it all up while wasting tons of lives. Why would he be a hero?
2020-07-21 12:09
#703
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Netherlands Titanos
because he took france and cucked them?
2020-07-21 13:26
No, cause he sent German soldiers to die against the advice of his officers.
2020-07-21 13:29
#708
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Netherlands Titanos
who cares, they kidnapped france!!!
2020-07-21 15:06
And NL :D
2020-07-21 15:18
#710
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Netherlands Titanos
:( no, we ubermenschen you just came to chill here
2020-07-21 15:20
Stefan Stambolov, very based man.
2020-07-15 11:41
nice fake flag blyat
2020-07-15 13:18
#7
Rob4 | 
Serbia e_loK
Gavrilo Princip
2020-07-15 11:44
Really? :D
2020-07-15 12:13
#49
Rob4 | 
Serbia e_loK
Yes if not him then Aleksandar Vucic
2020-07-15 12:15
Wtf
2020-07-15 12:17
hahah he is trolling
2020-07-15 13:22
obviously serbs had Nikola Tesla, Djokovic did a lot good for Serbs and many others but I guess you should know the 2 of them
2020-07-15 13:23
#185
Rob4 | 
Serbia e_loK
Bro, Tesla was Croatinan lul
2020-07-15 14:13
Nikola Tesla (10 July 1856 – 7 January 1943) was a Serbian-American inventor, electrical engineer, mechanical engineer, and futurist who is best known for his contributions to the design of the modern alternating current (AC) electricity supply system. "American" cuz he moved to america and took their nationality later on in his life. but nt
2020-07-15 14:34
#199
Rob4 | 
Serbia e_loK
Nikola Tesla (Smiljan, 10.7. 1856. - New York, 7.1. 1943.) born in smiljan, croatia nt
2020-07-15 14:49
first of all it wasnt croatia in 1856 and secondly if you are born in china to 2 nigerian parents it wont make you asian chinese trust me but still nt 0/8
2020-07-15 16:27
#239
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Turkey TheKaiser
With the same logic Napoleon would be a national hero for Italians.
2020-07-15 18:40
Hmm? I dont get your logic at all. Tesla was a child of 2 Serb parents, both orthodox Serbs and his father was also orthodox priest. He said himself that he would be most proud person in the world if he made some inventions because then world would have something serb invented. He was just born in a town that is NOW Croatia, which has nothing to do it anyway since you can be born in any country in the world. I have no idea about napoleon, but what has he with italians?
2020-07-15 21:21
#449
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Turkey TheKaiser
Same situation; Napoleon's both parents were Italian (Corsican) afaik. But he was born in French soil, so we consider him French.
2020-07-17 00:38
Corsican people dont consider themselves italian but french, but nt.
2020-07-17 16:07
#618
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Turkey TheKaiser
Uhm, whatever they consider now is not important for me. Corsica was just given to French at the time Napoleon was born and majority still considered themselves Italian. And they were ethnically Italian, so what they consider themselves isn't that much important but as I said, things weren't same 200 years ago.
2020-07-19 04:11
First of all Napoleon changed his name to sound more French so if he was italian he resented being one if you want to count person like that for italian national hero discussion go ahead.
2020-07-19 15:43
#624
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Turkey TheKaiser
Whatever he did, does anything change the fact that he was ethnically Italian? No.
2020-07-19 17:34
You are the one who used bad example using Napoleon as Italian national hero. My concern wasnt about ethnicity but how can you pass someone as national hero when the person resents being that ethnicity.
2020-07-19 17:39
#630
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Turkey TheKaiser
There's actually a LOT of historical sources saying that he was nearly a Corsican patriot, he lionized a person that strongly resisted French occupation (~) of Corsica, there's even a cartoon that survived mocking Napoleon about being a "patriotic" Corsican by one of his classmates, there was even a claim that Napoleon went to military arts because he wanted to "liberate" Corsica. But whatever you say.
2020-07-19 17:49
Corsica not Italy, he changed his name from Italian sounding one to french sounding one, thats all you need to know.
2020-07-19 18:02
#633
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Turkey TheKaiser
That's not all I need to know, Napoleon's "French Nationalism" was just for himself to get power. That's what all you need to know. Corsica might be territorially French but it's Italian, ethnically.
2020-07-19 18:27
You completely dismiss my point that you used wrong example, because you wouldnt use someone who resents being that ethnic group. He didnt resent being corsican, he hated being Italian.
2020-07-19 19:11
#642
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Turkey TheKaiser
He was literally a patriotic Corsican, he didn't hate being Italian.
2020-07-19 19:28
Corsica =/= Italy
2020-07-19 19:32
#644
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Turkey TheKaiser
Corsica = ethnically Italian
2020-07-19 19:34
He was patriotic about his birthplace, that is understandable but he obviously considered himself French and not Italian, if he was proud italian as you say he would have kept his name. Do you understand or not?
2020-07-19 19:38
#646
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Turkey TheKaiser
Do you understand that he needed to be seen French nationalist in order to get power? You're just blindly saying same thing dude. He had grown up as a patriotic non-French (maybe even anti-French at SOME points but not gonna go far; in this case he had Italian ideals.) and his "French ideals" only came around when he was getting more and more power. This isn't a coincidence.
2020-07-19 19:57
Anti french? Nice conspiracy theories jesus dude get a grip, his father was friend with the French appointed ruler. No point to talk to you anymore you dont accept facts and make bullshit up.
2020-07-19 20:04
#649
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Turkey TheKaiser
"Liberating Corsica from French" can be technically considered Anti-French in some measures, but I might have the wrong choice of words. And yeah, this is a "claim" since we can't really know the intentions of historical figures. Edit: Don't get me wrong, Napoleon must be a national hero for French and not for Italians since he was born in France, his soldiers were French, he was the emperor of France and he conquered for France. I'm just saying that he was ethnically Italian.
2020-07-19 20:13
He thinks ppl keep the nationality of their parents all the time, no matter where they are born, live, what they do, where they work, who they marry, etc ...he has a weird opinion bout it
2020-07-17 15:02
#619
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Turkey TheKaiser
I mean, he has a point for ethnical side but that's not really how it works in formality.
2020-07-19 04:12
Sure that but why cant u call urself a french nigerian or a austrian german or whatever...who cares...
2020-07-19 21:16
#656
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Turkey TheKaiser
I generally thought nationality must come from ethnicity but nah, I think the importance of ethnics and "races" is decreasing nowadays.
2020-07-19 21:18
As it should be in order to get a peaceful world, a nice place to live :(
2020-07-19 21:19
#665
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Turkey TheKaiser
I don't really know, I think it could/should have a little bit less dividing but we should keep our cultures alive too. This topic seems rather complex I guess.
2020-07-19 23:10
0/8 nije bilo Hrvatske tada
2020-07-16 13:34
#265
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Serbia hitomi79
aj ne seri leba ti, sta ga lozis ?
2020-07-16 12:48
+1
2020-07-16 13:34
#333
Rob4 | 
Serbia e_loK
smesno je, i jos mi je turcin dosao u pomoc :D
2020-07-16 15:19
English prick
2020-07-16 22:01
#418
Rob4 | 
Serbia e_loK
its entertaining, and i have a trukish guy helping me
2020-07-16 22:05
yup, you were always friends with turks lol
2020-07-16 22:13
In the face of oppression and a dude coming in and like "I own this place," the guy that essentially tells that guy to fuck off and kills him would be a national hero.
2020-07-16 23:43
lul responsible for losing 25% of your population
2020-07-15 13:57
25% died 100% become free people profits ezz
2020-07-16 14:31
did you really become free people though thats the question considering that you actually had to give up lands to other ethnic groups
2020-07-16 17:13
Well , not really , we got Vojvodina , Bosnia and Montenegro (At the time there were lots of Serbs living there) But WW2 fucked the Serbs in Bosnia and Croatia mostly , not to mention the Operation "Storm". In WW1 we gained land. After WW2 the communists carved our lands up and made up new nations (Macedonians , Montenegrins and "Muslims" LMFAO)
2020-07-17 13:31
true but the yugoslavia after ww1 was really unstable dunno if it could have kept existing like that maybe if you had let croatia and slovenia split and made greater serbia?
2020-07-17 13:32
Well that would've been ideal , Slovenians and Croats never really wanted Yugoslavia anyway so fuck 'em But the thing is , it was Yugoslavia or nothing - we wanted to unite the Serbs but the Entente wouldn't let us , we had to pick Yugoslavia , otherwise the hell we went through wouldn't even be worth it ( 30% of the population lost , no lands gained :/ )
2020-07-17 14:03
Soviet didn’t think so
2020-07-17 05:53
what lol
2020-07-17 14:34
Serbia was free after WWI?
2020-07-17 17:18
yes
2020-07-17 19:14
Sorry i'm thinking of WW2 now :S
2020-07-17 19:15
hahahaha
2020-07-16 13:33
#557
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United Kingdom X2erNaL
Major Dragutin Gavrilovic?
2020-07-17 17:03
#8
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Russia VelsVivard
J. Stalin, S. Korolev, P. Chaikovsky, A. Pushkin, F. Dostoevsky.
2020-07-15 11:45
Where are you from ? Is Stalin really a hero in ur country? Cuz in my country he is not
2020-07-15 12:08
#46
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Russia VelsVivard
By the time you get beyond 18 years of age, you might find that he is.
2020-07-15 12:12
I'm 22 and I was born in far north right on the polar circle cuz some Georgian faggot sent my grandparents there to die for being not loyal towards repressions, and killed millions of Soviet people and you fkng tard calling him a hero now ?
2020-07-15 12:19
#57
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Russia VelsVivard
Not only I, I don't know the story behind your parents but I'm sorry, you can't exclude the probability of them actually deserving to be sent away right. Still, he was no saint but his good still overweigh the bad and so there's that.
2020-07-15 12:19
What can overweight millions of deaths and millions of broken fates ?
2020-07-15 12:22
#65
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Russia VelsVivard
Securing the peaceful life and ascension of the country from the ruins for the remaining living. And you can't put each and every death on him.
2020-07-15 12:23
Ok, let's close this discussion, I see we're from the different sides and we won't make conclusion anyway
2020-07-15 12:25
#74
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Russia VelsVivard
That's a very mature decision and well said, I now believe that you're actually 22 years old, have a good evening.
2020-07-15 12:29
lmao fucking idiot, is putin your hero too?
2020-07-17 16:01
What good can overweigh 60m deaths to starvation
2020-07-15 12:25
#73
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Russia VelsVivard
He wasn't responsible for that, it's rather a neglect than the direct desire to eliminate people. You should always ask logic of your statements/questions before posting them.
2020-07-15 12:28
no point of arguing, there is litteraly billions of evidence that would prove you wrong, from anything from letters written by stalin to his commanders to the victims of his crimes lmao. But nice trynna glorify a master of genocide
2020-07-15 23:55
I have no words just be quiet plz
2020-07-17 05:54
#87
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Russia win73ry
For real, bro. My great grandmother’s family was from Volga region, and they were Volga Germans, of course. They had German as their native language. In 1941, Stalin decided to send them to the North of fucking Siberia (Dudinka), just because they’re Germans. Half of the family have froze to death, because they weren’t allowed to make a fire for some reason, and my great grandmother started to lose her hearing since 3-4 years old (completely deaf now.) They didn’t even manage to get to Dudinka, because Yenisei lake froze and there was no railway, so they were left in some Krasnoyarsk area village with no food, place to stay and shit. They had to eat fucking pigeons and get called “fascists” by the locals, just because they happened to be Germans. Thank you, Stalin, you surely are the national hero.
2020-07-15 12:44
Sad story bro. Fucked up times. My grandmother had to flee from east-prussia near Königsberg (kaliningrad nowadays). Her family had a big farm, she had 6 sisters and 4 brothers. In 1941/42 she had to escape to Germany (by boat over northsea). She was the youngest sibling and she told me that the boat was overcrouded so they only took her on and her sisters (since they only took women and kids as well, no boys/parents) needed to wait for another boat. That was the last time she saw or spoke to any of her familymembers tho.
2020-07-16 09:23
#315
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Russia win73ry
This is fucked up, man. I hope neither we, nor our children will not experience such things.
2020-07-16 14:39
+1 Im glad there is Internet nowadays and we are all connected in a way which makes its easier to realize that no matter the nation, the masses of people only want to live happy and peacefull
2020-07-16 15:06
But remember, Stalin ”MoStLy” good
2020-07-17 05:56
#488
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Russia win73ry
Yeah, I don’t care that he won the WWII and shit if he killed more Russian people than Hitler did.
2020-07-17 07:10
Yo mens)), my family was also based in Königsberg! They ran a family based hotel there, back when it was in Ostpreußen. Sadly my great-great grandfather (sth like that) was wrongly executed by the Russians for being a 'german spy' during the first world war. During and after the first world war, my family moved to north Germany, and then subsequently into Denmark. Some stayed, but during the second world war, a relative was machine-gunned down in a retirement home in Königsberg, for being a jew. Almost half of my family back then were sent to various concentration camps. A sad fate for a family that lived in Germany, spoke German and considered itself German for centuries.
2020-07-17 01:26
"A sad fate for a family that lived in Germany, spoke German and considered itself German for centuries" Horrible what brainwashing and religious hate can do to people. Even worse that it is still happening just in this very moment (outside Europe ofc), and innocent people are suffering for it :/
2020-07-17 07:39
#234
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Brazil sakaaa
My guess is (and talking from what i believe to be an impartial read of his history) that his intentions were right (hence the hero part) but the means and how he tried it were horrible (hence the devil part) edit: right as in a sense of what his followers believed, not morally.. i can't judge on that.
2020-07-15 18:37
For a second I got Pushkin confused with Pichushkin. I was really concerned. Surprised Peter the Great doesn't get a mention though.
2020-07-15 12:29
#77
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Russia VelsVivard
I mean if I was to prolong the list, he'd be somewhere there close to the top five but it was so far behind, his impact and influence wither every year, you could also bring in Catherine II, Ivan The Terrible, all significant and deserved personalities but it's the most recent figures that brought the most contribution to the present times I believe, hence the list.
2020-07-15 12:31
#101
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France daniel19
+ Tolstoï + Kasparov/Karpov/Kramnik edit : Koutouzov of course
2020-07-15 13:05
Very good picks, you know history well!
2020-07-15 13:11
#119
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France daniel19
Franco Russian relations goes back ;) also love chess and russian literature is my favorite, i was glad to see pushkin and dostoievski in your picks
2020-07-15 13:14
Oh yeah, they're arguably the biggest literature figures from my country's history. I like history in general, sure I do the history of other countries too. French Revolution, Stanislaw I and the relations between the Polish, loads of interesting stuff.
2020-07-15 13:17
Hm, i have read Dostojewski and Tolstoi so far, which of Pushkin's stuff would you recommend?
2020-07-17 03:23
The Captain's Daughter, Dubrovskiy, the Queen of Spades, maybe Eugene Onegin
2020-07-17 09:41
Thanks
2020-07-17 18:03
Stalin killed more people than Hitler Both directly and indirectly. Holodomor?
2020-07-15 13:10
I think I have told you already, he hasn't killed half as less as Hitler did, and there's absolutely no logic in your bias conspiracy theory.
2020-07-15 13:11
Conspiracy theory? He literally admitted he did it, to kill of the rich farmers in Ukraine (The Kulaks). I mean stalin also slaughtered all of the soviet unions capable generals and all other capable leaders. He ignored the allies warning that the German Reich was gonna invade and lost million of peasants and soldiers because of that. The easterne front was killed the German Meat Grinder because so many underequipped soviet troops got thrown in to buy time. He's a terrible man. Not a hero. Hitler is more of a hero than Stalin Trotsky would have done better.
2020-07-15 13:18
It wasn't Stalin, he had so much to care about, the Bolveshiks are responsible for famines and destructions of foodstuffs across the country. Stalin was very straight forward, if he did something, he explained why and it was very hard not to agree with it. So far, most of what he's done, he's done rightfully so. The European daydreamers seemingly are never going to forgive how their hopes of Aryan supremacy bandwagon was ruined.
2020-07-15 13:20
Another delusional russian. People were so afriad of him, ironically enough it would be what got him killed. No on dared enter his room despite the commotion and he died because all the competent doctors were dead or had dissapeared. Just think about the fact a Pedophile Rapist had the 2nd most powerful position in the Soviet Union that had more than 1.5 million innocent people executed. lavrentiy beria is the very definition of a psychopath. I mean hes insane, and Stalin was ok with it. Disgusting. Atleast he got what he deserved.
2020-07-15 13:29
I remember why the discussion with you didn't last long. For someone who worships his past potential tormentor and the entire nation annihilator, you hang in there reasonably well. But luckily without you ever sharing your own point of view and logic of things, I'm not tied to entertain you. Phew.
2020-07-15 13:29
Have we had a discussion before? I don't worship hitler? Hitler is like on the top 10 worst people ever, i just think Stalin places higher than him. I really can't decide if lavrentiy beria or Stalin was worst. It's like, what's better Pest or Cholera. Id prefer neither This is my POV, i didn't live in 1945 (obviously) and it's hard to give my take on it other than what sources tell me happened. It's not like Russia is hiding the fact Stalin wasn't a good man. Definetely not hiding lavrentiy beria wasn't.
2020-07-15 13:40
It's not the right approach to base your opinion off the sources that don't tell the whole, exact story. Just looking at the bland facts won't give you the understanding. Logic predates arguments, context gives facts the meaning. You see where I'm tracking to? You should know much more than just a hand written fact. Hence why I can't take this seriously, both sad and amused at the same time.
2020-07-15 13:43
I haven't just read a few sources. I have read communist propaganda, i have heard speaches by ex-soviet leaders. I have read books and books from all over the world even Russia. So few books try to defend Stalin because it's so hard. I will say though, i have neaver read a book that tried to defend Lavrentiy Beria. Which is good
2020-07-15 13:46
You were picking up the other people's upsets and disappointments that it has eventually formed yours. I have my point of view, you have someone else's. If you look hard enough, there's the bigger picture and as I said before, he was no saint but his good overweigh his bad. That's what you should gain from me.
2020-07-15 13:49
Then tell me, what do you believe he did good.
2020-07-15 13:50
He has maintained a stable order within the country that just recently has seen so much chaos and destruction, ascended the social construct to the higher level. Put a solid foundation for science to grow and it has grown significantly. Has only focused on the good traiditions from the past which were the basing for people's mentality for many years to come. And most important, he hasn't crumbled at the peak moment, with his iron fist and absolute leadership, he has done and won that war with the hands and hearts of a millions of the Soviet people. Praise the Hitler, maybe he would end it fast.
2020-07-15 13:54
Trotsky wanted to continue revolution in other countries, like germany, where reds almost take controll in 1922 or earlier , stalin wanted just form Soviet Union Commies just bad, i mean that who was soviets
2020-07-15 13:26
Trotsky was for world revolution, but he did not support the gulags and mass murder to control power. He also didn't support the idea of war, he only wanted to influence other countries. He was much closer to Marxism instead of Stalins totalitarianism.
2020-07-15 13:28
true, but i would`t live in both
2020-07-15 13:30
Yup, i prefer what i have. But if Stalin didn't kill Trotsky it's likely the war would have gone much better.
2020-07-15 13:42
#219
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Russia L0sk^^
STALIN LMAO
2020-07-15 16:53
the second most responsible man for deaths in the world, he is not even a hero to the ruskis themselves
2020-07-16 14:19
He is.
2020-07-16 14:20
1- Stalin was Georgian 2- Stalin was not a hero
2020-07-16 15:05
1 - He could be Martian, it wouldn't change a thing. 2 - That's your opinion which doesn't cross over with reality.
2020-07-16 15:13
There was no georgian nationality back than. Nt tho
2020-07-16 22:02
Georgia is republic of USSR....
2020-07-17 15:08
#9
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Finland HARD4ENCE
Simo Häyhä. Sniped down over 500 ruskies.
2020-07-15 11:48
#10
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Georgia Megobari
White Death? Yes?
2020-07-15 11:48
#12
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Finland HARD4ENCE
Yes. Over 500 kills and doesn't even have a K/D coz he wasn't killed in the war.
2020-07-15 11:50
#13
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Georgia Megobari
I heard that before the war he was a farmer, is it true?
2020-07-15 11:50
#19
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Finland HARD4ENCE
Yes, in the Karelian territory. That's why he was so eager to defend it.
2020-07-15 11:55
#21
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Georgia Megobari
Hope that one day Russia will return your lands back.
2020-07-15 11:56
#29
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Finland HARD4ENCE
Nah, not gonna happen. Some of them we wouldn't even want back coz they are left in a sorry state, for example Viborg area. Petsamo we could use coz it would give us access to the Arctic Sea. But yeah, it's wishful thinking at this point.
2020-07-15 12:05
#30
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Georgia Megobari
At least you have great country right now <3
2020-07-15 12:01
What did Viborg do to you? (City in Denmark that's pretty large) Haha, i am the fun
2020-07-15 13:11
#200
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Finland HARD4ENCE
Hehe, I actually mistyped anyway, Vyborg is the English word for the lost Karelian city/area.
2020-07-15 14:50
Hey, then it was funny
2020-07-15 14:59
He was bit over 150cm
2020-07-15 13:07
#198
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Finland HARD4ENCE
Omg, just actually checked. A true midget, indeed.
2020-07-15 14:44
lagged so 2x responses
2020-07-15 13:08
did he have aimlock?
2020-07-16 12:59
iron sight and 150 ping no cheats pure skill
2020-07-16 20:42
his death record would be 1 in any way.
2020-07-16 15:25
Carl Gustaf Emil Mannerheim? I like this men))
2020-07-15 12:12
Surely Juutilainen too. He was pretty important in Kollaa. Also, honourable mention to Kuvoinen for becoming a Meth'd up god of war. I like to imagine him screaming Perkele for 2 weeks while hunting Soviets when he went missing.
2020-07-15 12:34
#268
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Estonia mr_abdul
true hero
2020-07-16 12:51
#314
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Sweden shonk
2020-07-16 14:36
#307
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Sweden shonk
U surely realize how fucked up Finland is when Simo is a national hero because he was defending and fighting for his land XD And these "ruskies" saved the world by beating nazis. If Simo is a national hero because he was a good sniper, I feel sad for your country. Millions of people were fighting and dying for their families and their countries. He is not a hero. He didnt even die. He doesnt even know what a real war is. He would piss off his pants if he was sent to the front line. Your country overhyped him af. Soviet Union had thousands of snipers like him but nobody tried to overhype him and act like he is the saver and the only one who should get any glory.
2020-07-16 14:30
#318
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Estonia mr_abdul
nt russian fakeflagger ''He didnt even die. He doesnt even know what a real war is'' xaxaxaxax I'm sure you know what real war is so well that you can say that about him, also soviet union didn't have 1 sniper as good as him so nt
2020-07-16 14:53
#358
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Sweden shonk
"nt russian fakeflagger" Not even close. But ye, if you are educated enough u can easily describe the life during ww2. "also soviet union didn't have 1 sniper as good as him so nt" what an achievemnt that he killed a few more people than other snipers. I can also add that nobody knows how many people were killed, it was almost impossible to figure out. But the governement literally made him a hero/genius who, ACCORDING TO HIS/OTHERS words, killed a lot of enemies during the attack. I bet u dont even know a single sniper besides him. And while telling some cool stories about Winter War in Finland they usually forget to clarify that finland lost 11% of their territory and their 2nd biggest city Vyborg
2020-07-16 18:57
nt russian fakeflagger Dont be mad
2020-07-18 15:50
#611
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Sweden shonk
Great answer perkelele sätään
2020-07-18 16:53
#348
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Finland HARD4ENCE
I wasn't 100% serious when I said he was the national hero. The official answer would nevertheless be someone war related, probably Mannerheim and most Finnish people would agree. Häyhä didn't die in the war but he got badly, almost fatally injured, by a bullet to a face. Like he lost his lower jaw completely.
2020-07-16 17:51
Literally clicked this thread to find the first Finn talking about this dude. Fkking legend 100%
2020-07-16 19:07
such a hero 500 kills lol...I bet ruskis killed more with hands than he with sniper
2020-07-16 22:03
#432
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Finland HARD4ENCE
Did any of them make this list? military.com/off-duty/2019/05/16/5-most-..
2020-07-16 22:47
"snipers" I said they even strangled more fins than your guy killed while hiding. -500 ruskis is nothing compared what they did to you before, during and after lol. Even now you speak ruski thats how much you were fked hahaahhaha
2020-07-16 22:49
#448
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Finland HARD4ENCE
Well there was this one Red Army captain I'll give you that..
2020-07-17 00:15
Who speaks Russian?
2020-07-18 11:12
#672
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Turkey Rjea
No scope king, probably he was cheating
2020-07-20 08:03
Sandokan
2020-07-15 11:51
from the seven oceans that man was good shit bratan even better than jack sparow and nemo themselfs
2020-07-15 12:01
#15
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France Chylvain2
1) Napoleon 2) Mbappé 3) ZywOo
2020-07-15 11:52
you forget rpk?
2020-07-15 11:53
#20
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Georgia Megobari
Charles De Gaulle?
2020-07-15 11:56
#177
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France Chylvain2
Charles De Gaulle is a boat en.wikipedia.org/wiki/French_aircraft_ca..
2020-07-15 13:58
I think you have to share Napoleon with Italy. He was born on the Italian speaking side of Corsica afterall.
2020-07-15 12:35
#98
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France daniel19
Share Napoleon with Italy, of course a rosbeef comes up with that. First if not French, Corsica was part of Genoa, not Italy. Second he hated Corsica when he arrived on the continent. Third, he was so Italian that he single handedly defeated Italy while France was in civil war and unified it. How on earth can anyone think Napoleon was anything else but french.
2020-07-15 13:00
Firstly, Genoa is Italian and is part of Italy now. Secondly, he was born with the name Napoleone di Buonaparte which seems very Italian linguistically. Its why he was ridiculed for having an Italicized accent by other French politicians. For the record I'm not saying he's an Italian figure in their history and not French. I'm just saying that realistically he was born effectively into both France and Italy given his location and language. He obviously considered himself French considering the whole vive l'empereur.
2020-07-15 13:34
#174
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France Chylvain2
rosbeef confirmed
2020-07-15 13:57
Listen here frog. You may have been the best enemy we ever had but we're meant to be friends now. Even if you do eat snails.
2020-07-15 14:02
#202
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France daniel19
le rosbeef talks non sense mon ami, italy wasn't even a thing back then, which settles the debate, napoleon valued France because he valued the State, never ever he would have been a pizzaboi
2020-07-15 14:56
#215
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France Chylvain2
np mate I was trolling we will never forget the help you gave in WW2 But also I will never forget that UK destroyed my city (le Havre) when you left the country after WW2 even if you know there was no german,
2020-07-15 16:43
Toi t'as rien compris. Sans les Anglais pour nous casser les couilles, y'a pas de Seconde Guerre Mondiale, y'en a même pas une première puisque l'Europe serait unifiée et en paix depuis Tilsit en 1807, amorçant avec presque deux siècles d'avance l'idée d'une Union Européenne. Sans les Anglais, en 1936, on attaque les Allemands dès qu'il commence à recréer un arsenal de guerre, pour aller plus doucement dans l'histoire alternative. Toujours est-il que c'est d'une ignorance crasse que de penser que les Français ont une dette envers les Anglais. Ca montre bien à quel point l'éducation Nationale n'a plus rien de nationaliste mdr. Juste pour la WW2, renseigne-toi sur Mers-El-Kébir, ça va te faire tout drôle. Ces gens ne sont pas nos amis et ils ne le seront jamais.
2020-07-15 19:16
#254
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France Chylvain2
my mother is born in mehrs el kebir I know the history
2020-07-16 08:48
LMAOOO You're such a huge nationalist is insane 😂😂😂 but kinda cute.
2020-07-16 13:46
How? I'm upset when French both embrace Anglo-Saxon historical propaganda and forget about their own history. I just disposed some historical facts to counter his bullshit.
2020-07-16 14:14
Bruhh im always gonna be on your side, but you come off as pretty hateful and angry (and i could understand why) and this could turn many of your normie countrymen off. Or maybe is cuz my French is still garbage, im getting there 😂👍🏻
2020-07-16 14:19
Yep that's true, I need to chill when it comes to these subjects lol
2020-07-16 14:58
Good one
2020-07-15 19:09
Carl Gustaf Emil Mannerheim
2020-07-15 11:54
Lauri Törni? Simo Häyhä?
2020-07-15 13:06
They were only individual soldiers. Mannerheim was our main strategist in the Winter War and the Continuation War.
2020-07-15 13:51
Sabaton has made a song of both of em. Do you even know Lauri Törni?
2020-07-15 18:07
#324
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Finland OldStager
nice bait
2020-07-16 15:08
#325
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Finland OldStager
+1
2020-07-16 15:09
#323
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Finland OldStager
+1
2020-07-16 15:08
Mariusz T.
2020-07-15 11:54
#27
JW | 
Norway jatakk
cya in 10 y
2020-07-15 11:59
whats wrong with a singer/actor pl.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mariusz_Totoszko
2020-07-15 12:27
Greta Thurnberg
2020-07-15 11:57
#25
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Georgia Megobari
lol :D
2020-07-15 11:58
:D
2020-07-15 13:34
more like ali g bradar ? ore ragnar lockbrok
2020-07-15 12:00
ahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaahahahahahahaahahahaha no
2020-07-15 12:15
0/8
2020-07-15 12:16
8/8
2020-07-15 13:30
#339
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Finland OldStager
+1
2020-07-16 15:33
8/8
2020-07-16 15:35
Yup...that just shows rich history you have hahaahahahahaaha
2020-07-16 22:04
It was a joke GucciLele cringe kid
2020-07-16 22:04
Read my name greta
2020-07-16 22:12
#26
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France daniel19
de gaulle, napoléon then you would find some authors and scientists descartes, poincaté, curie(s), hugo, etc etc
2020-07-15 11:58
Too many in France to list, tbh
2020-07-16 19:08
#381
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France daniel19
lafayette ;)
2020-07-16 19:38
voltaire, rousseau, de Tocqueville
2020-07-16 23:46
#504
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France daniel19
wouldn't call them heroes as they are more political divisive figure, especially voltaire, plus rousseau is french/swiss.
2020-07-17 09:52
William the silent
2020-07-15 12:01
nah its Chris De Jong
2020-07-15 12:25
Nt Prokda
2020-07-15 12:01
#36
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Korea XigNw0w
Most definitely Yi Sun-shin. He's the hero of both Korea's and appreciated in both countries.
2020-07-15 12:05
This dude is criminally underrated in so many things. Probably one of the best generals who ever lived.
2020-07-15 12:38
Ghandi Madharchod tha Bahen ka Loda
2020-07-15 12:05
#48
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Russia VelsVivard
This makes me want to play CIV 5 again, wicked Indians...
2020-07-15 12:13
axaxaxaxaxaxa
2020-07-15 12:34
axaxxaxa
2020-07-15 14:12
Lul ghandi was a child abuser
2020-07-15 18:34
0/8 gandhi hottest men))
2020-07-19 18:52
Are you modi fan? Thats explain why you are abusing a father of nation
2020-07-21 19:03
Lapu-Lapu like first Pilipino Hero he do be protecc 16th century Philippines from Spaniards or Portugese, i forgot which
2020-07-15 12:07
#43
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Georgia Megobari
I think that they were spaniards. Cause Philippines were Spanish colony.
2020-07-15 12:10
i looked it up like just now, Magellan is Portugese, so like, yea Miguel Lopez de Legaspi on the other hand is Spanish, who came after Magellan nd he like, conquered us so rip 333 years
2020-07-15 12:15
#66
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Germany I_car
But then USA came and saved the day 😎
2020-07-15 12:23
#39
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Germany I_car
Someone...
2020-07-15 12:07
#41
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Ukraine cyberNet1k
george floyd
2020-07-15 12:09
dude im laughing so hard that I CANT BREATHE
2020-07-15 12:22
#517
Xyp9x | 
Russia Ypp1
axaxaxaxaxaxa
2020-07-17 13:10
1) Sir Edmund hillary (first to reach the summit of mount everest) 2) Gratisfaction's moustache
2020-07-15 12:09
Sorry what about Bob Semple? The best tank designer who ever existed.
2020-07-15 12:43
He didnt design it ffs, he ordered the tanks.
2020-07-17 16:14
Regardless, without him we wouldn't have the tank.
2020-07-17 17:16
That is true
2020-07-17 17:29
+1 on number 2
2020-07-15 13:19
Probably Stalin or Osama
2020-07-15 12:17
Borat
2020-07-15 12:16
nah its Dauren Kystaubayev
2020-07-15 12:21
Borat hero
2020-07-15 13:05
I have never heard something so true in my life
2020-07-15 13:13
#440
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Finland kkd69
Kazakhstan greatest country in the world
2020-07-16 23:15
Omarla Batyray
2020-07-15 12:19
nah its Mihail Stolyarov
2020-07-15 12:20
Agree with #59, but I was taking about Dagestan
2020-07-15 12:21
#58
2020-07-15 12:21
Jacek Krzynówek best football player without Golden Ball
2020-07-15 12:24
recep allah erdogan
2020-07-15 12:32
2020-07-15 12:33
Yes +1
2020-07-15 14:29
#489
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Germany leftist
+1
2020-07-17 07:10
I was looking for this comment finally,no other option
2020-07-19 18:47
Dr. APJ Abdul Kalam
2020-07-15 12:34
#88
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Poland STARWHITE
Mirosław Hermeszewski
2020-07-15 12:36
dont know anyone from the top of my head but I looked it up and it gave me: "In the nineteenth century Ambiorix became a Belgian national hero because of his resistance against Julius Caesar, as written in Caesar's Commentarii de Bello Gallico." Honourable mentions: - Gerardus Mercator (cartographer, made the standard model of how we view the world today) - Adolphe Sax (invented the sax) - Victor Horta (architect, some are UNESCO world heritage sites in Brussels) - Georges Lemaître (came up with the Big Bang Theory) - Audrey Hepburn (actress) - Stromae (artist) - Hergé, Magritte, Rubens (painters) I dont think any of them are considered "heroes" tho, but still very well known people.
2020-07-15 12:42
#122
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Germany MackyGee
HI
2020-07-15 13:16
#610
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Belgium lil_vodka
where the f is Leopold the 2nd
2020-07-18 15:49
#94
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Poland JKG
Andrzej DUDA
2020-07-15 12:46
Mao Zedong without a doubt. Pretty much 95% of Chinese will say his name.
2020-07-15 12:53
Deng Xiaoping
2020-07-16 14:44
>Responsible for millions of deaths > National hero OK
2020-07-17 16:16
If you know how shit KMT and Chiang Kai Shek was, Mao is probably a saint. Either way, from any perspective most of the Chinese still respect him. From a nationalists perspective, Mao had laid down the foundation that brought China to be come a potential Hyper-power, he had united entire nation, liberate people from individual warlords and KMT. He manage to industrialized China, build own nuclear weapon, upset USA in Korean war. From a left-winger perspective, Mao is a great Marxism theorists that had huge influence to many todays' top Philosopher include Zizek and Badiou. His idea of revolution, social constructs were extremely wide-spread across left wingers. Only group of people that doesn't like him is the liberals in China.
2020-07-17 18:50
Mao was way worse than Shek in kill count stop making shit up, shek was dictator and all the things that come with that but mao was lierally worse than stalin and stalin is up there in top 10 of human trash so there is that, ends dont justify the means and Mao deffinetly had one of the worst ways to "improve" a country. Btw Second sino Japanese war unified china not mao....
2020-07-17 21:11
see Chairman Mao was alot like Stalin yes their brutal regimes lead to incredible death and suffering but these 2 men lead dramatic modernization in their respective country's economy wise China today as the global powerhouse started with Mao after Mao won the chinese Civil war he implemented the great leap forward a massive industrial modernization plan which while it killed many people it modernized the entire Chinese economy
2020-07-19 03:02
China is global powerhouse not because of mao but whatever chinese shills, maos greatest achievemnt is probably his education reform, because china had big problem with illiteracy. Any unified china would be powerhouse, because of how huge the country is, how much people live there and how much resources they have, look at qing empire, that country was so strong UK didnt want to go to war directly with it. Also as i said before ends don't justify the means
2020-07-19 15:35
yes but as i said it started with Mao the great leap forward that is what began China's rise to become a economic power the great Napoleon Bonaparte once described China like this " China is a sleeping Giant do not take the foot of it's neck or it will rise and will never sleep again "
2020-07-19 22:16
Except they became real powerhouse when they turned from being commies to capitalist but nice try
2020-07-19 22:20
i refuse to call china capitalist the dictatorship they are run by may not be communist but it damn well ain't capitalist
2020-07-19 22:21
They are mostly capitalist, anyway they became giant after the change not before no matter how you call them.
2020-07-20 14:21
Michael Collins
2020-07-15 12:55
as important as he was i would say Patrick Pearse as he was one of the main leaders of the 1916 Easter Rising that event is the most important event in Irish history as it is what lead to our freedom after over 800 years of enslavement
2020-07-19 03:03
ATATÜRK
2020-07-15 13:00
Mustafa Kemal Atatürk
2020-07-15 13:02
Valeriy Zhmyshenko
2020-07-15 13:05
Lauri Törni Mannerheim Simo Häyhä
2020-07-15 13:05
#110
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United Kingdom 3Head
John Locke cs lewis Stephen Hawking
2020-07-15 13:08
darwin? newton?
2020-07-16 15:23
#342
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United Kingdom 3Head
Not for me personally, If we were just listing great British thinkers we would be here for a while.
2020-07-16 15:38
#353
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United States Festive_
love these answers Why not Winston Churchill though?
2020-07-16 18:29
#357
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United Kingdom 3Head
Thanks! As much as I respect Churchill's rhetoric and intellectual capacity, I'm not really the biggest Churchill fan overall. I think he made a fair few errors in his life but ultimately came in clutch with his opposition to Hitler in a time where no one wanted to do so.
2020-07-16 18:52
Imo he was just a politician who did what he was meant to do during ww2. He was a raging alcoholic who was drunk during most of his speeches. And yet, thanks to his extremely talented speech writers and his own talents as an orator, he still was able to pull it off and inspire hope in British hearts. His cabinet was extremely effective, and his decision to create a coalition with labour was vital for Britain's domestic politics during WW2. He wasn't so special to be considered a hero, but was most certainly not mediocre. I won't mention Gallipoli in detail, but I assume that's what you meant with 'fair few errors'.
2020-07-17 01:39
without Churchill the UK would not exist anymore yes he was not the most pleasant of Men and he was clearly a massive racist but he's the reason the UK survived the war at the start of WW2 there was a massive feeling of hopelessness that the Nazi Army could not be stopped Churchill was a strong leader who gave the entire UK hope and rallied the entire population into defiance against the 3rd Reich that's why he's the most important Person in hundreds of years for Britain
2020-07-19 03:05
1.Newton 2.Churchill 3.Locke 4.Darwin 5.Hawking 6.Jeremy Clarkson 7.Rowan Atkinson mind that Im not from England, this is just how I feel, last 2 are jokes, but those are my fav English folks (with Hammond and May)
2020-07-16 23:17
#444
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United Kingdom 3Head
interesting list, first 5 I understand. The other 2 not so much ahah but its personal opinion. I am from the same town as Rowan Atkinson which is quite cool.
2020-07-16 23:38
I heard he is not so friendly most of the times, I get it tho, would be cool to meet him
2020-07-17 09:05
Goddamn Mr.Bean is a god :D
2020-07-18 03:40
#113
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Turkey TheTurks!
Too many to say, but honorable mentions are Mustafa Kemal ATATÜRK, Fatih Sultan Mehmet, Kanuni, Yavuz Sultan Selim, Mete Han
2020-07-15 13:10
Atatürk is obvious. Fatih and Mete Han are also really good but I'm not so sure about Yavuz or Kanuni. Yavuz was a tyrant but a tyrant who filled a treasure, Kanuni is the reason for the downfall of the Ottoman empire because he emptied the treasure that his father has filled for useless wars. Plus he killed his genius son and made a drunkard his veliaht.
2020-07-16 15:09
ataturk obvious xd
2020-07-16 18:23
Fuck off Ar*b, I won't waste my time with you.
2020-07-16 18:34
you try to compare ataturk with metehan, yavuz or kanuni xDDDDD he dont even come close to them so fuck off turkified greek
2020-07-16 18:47
Knud den store Stronk Viking man
2020-07-15 13:14
Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin
2020-07-15 13:17
Obama
2020-07-15 13:17
#131
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France daniel19
lol
2020-07-15 13:19
yes
2020-07-15 13:23
Better than Thomas Jefferson, George Washington, Theodore Roosevelt ?
2020-07-15 13:28
hi
2020-07-15 13:47
#238
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Poland J__ac_pis
Osama*
2020-07-15 18:39
killed more people than corona did
2020-07-16 22:05
I seriously doubt that he ever killed anyone
2020-07-17 09:43
every comment you make is either hateful racist or just trying to trigger people. the world would be better without you
2020-07-17 16:30
Bogdan Khmelnitsky i would also add Bandera, but he is kinda debatable In other words everyone who fought for Independence
2020-07-15 13:31
yeah Bandera true hero gave the order to kill innocent people
2020-07-17 14:59
I said that he debatable , many people says that he NH, and polaks like you says another opinion
2020-07-17 15:53
fought for independence against civilians
2020-07-17 14:59
Albert Einstein xD
2020-07-15 13:32
He was American, wtf
2020-07-15 13:49
Who 🚗 He had Swiss citizenship )))
2020-07-15 13:54
#223
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Germany I_car
I car, he was German
2020-07-15 18:10
OK we can share
2020-07-15 18:24
#240
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Poland J__ac_pis
He was Jew, Israel wanted to make him a president of their new country
2020-07-15 18:41
Jew isnt a nationality
2020-07-15 18:48
#243
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Poland J__ac_pis
uuuu antisemitism
2020-07-15 18:49
What an unexpected answer
2020-07-15 18:58
Herzl
2020-07-15 13:42
papito
2020-07-15 13:53
neymar
2020-07-15 13:53
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2020-07-15 14:12
You could have said Ronaldo, Pele, Romario and lots of other footballers. But you picked frigging Neymar.....You make me so fucking sad.
2020-07-17 03:07
sorry
2020-07-17 03:05
Neymar is a bit like s1mple. A frigging awesome player, but doesn't make his teammates better, being somewhat selfish of nature (Both players have tried to change it, but the changes are slooooooow.)
2020-07-17 03:08
Gjergj Kastrioti, known as Skanderbeg
2020-07-15 13:53
#273
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Serbia hitomi79
Djorde Kastratovic
2020-07-16 12:57
why so delusional
2020-07-16 13:20
#282
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Serbia hitomi79
He is my distant relative.. it's ok, don't worry about it !
2020-07-16 13:33
your distant relatives are somewhere in cyka land not over here.. it's ok, don't worry about it !
2020-07-16 14:06
Skanderbeg +111111 Best 3 star
2020-07-16 19:10
Verka Serdyuchka
2020-07-15 13:55
best music on eurovisia so far
2020-07-15 14:03
Im not Ukrainian but I agree with this xD
2020-07-15 18:36
+1
2020-07-16 13:46
+1
2020-07-16 15:09
#338
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Finland OldStager
+1
2020-07-16 15:30
+1
2020-07-17 13:13
axaxaxaxa
2020-07-17 14:55
Im very glad you ask Józef Piłsudski, Ignacy Daszyński, Ignacy Paderewski, Wincenty Witos, Jan Paweł II, Lech Wałęsa, Zbigniew Brzeziński, Tadeusz Mazowiecki, Tadeusz Kościuszko, Kazimierz Pułaski, Ryszard Kuklińsk, Bolesław Chrobry, Jan III Sobieski, Stanisław August Poniatowski, Adam Mickiewicz, Witold Gombrowicz, Henryk Sienkiewicz, Czesław Miłosz, Fryderyk Chopin, Krzysztof Penderecki, Stanisław Moniuszko, Mikołaj Kopernik, Maria Curie-Skłodowska, Władysław Sikorski, Marian Rejewski, Miś Wojtek, and that guy who killed Stepan Bandera
2020-07-15 14:12
#203
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France daniel19
bless you
2020-07-15 14:59
Maria Skłodowska-Curie*
2020-07-15 15:27
#287
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Serbia hitomi79
Ryszard Kukliński aka Iceman ?
2020-07-16 13:40
#303
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Poland sikalafa
it just shows how good and interesting our history is
2020-07-16 14:23
you right men)))
2020-07-16 14:25
MUSTAFA KEMAL ATATÜTRK
2020-07-15 14:30
R10
2020-07-15 14:31
SENNA PIQUET FITTIPALDI NEGAO DA BL
2020-07-15 14:37
DOM PEDRO II !!!!!!
2020-07-15 16:32
yeah this guy is also important i guess
2020-07-15 16:34
D. Pedro II is a truly hero, but not recognized as one.
2020-07-16 23:02
what can you expect from thieves??? That's what Republican Brasileiros were, they did their best to erase the Monarchic great history. youtube.com/watch?v=F0sO34KCktQ Everything they ever did was racist, thievery and evil. The easiest thing you can do is always start by saying that the Monarchy abolished slavery and all anti-black laws, and that the Republicans coup'd the Monarchy because they were racist slave owner farmers...that way you can shut leftists up. Brasil needs to be a Libertarian Monarchy irmao 👍🏻
2020-07-16 23:15
#237
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Poland J__ac_pis
Prost > Senna
2020-07-15 18:39
kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
2020-07-16 00:19
kjkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
2020-07-19 18:39
#262
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Czech Republic Tr3jx_S
Bolsonaro
2020-07-16 12:44
Méri méri pfff méri pffff
2020-07-16 15:16
#350
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Brazil RmM_oo
Jackie Chan
2020-07-16 18:06
Juan Bautista Alberdi. Wrote our real constitution, implemented Minarchist Libertarianism, Abolished Slavery and gave equal rights to all immigrants and Native Americans, gave full Province Autonomy to our Provinces. He got fucked cuz he didn't see 2 waves of millions of French Communist immigrants coming, but otherwise we'd still be a Top5 first world country.
2020-07-15 14:44
Bless your good heart, Juan Mestizo 🌹
2020-07-15 16:30
tyty pimpim <3
2020-07-15 16:32
#222
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Germany I_car
So that's why you hated France so much
2020-07-15 18:09
They wouldn't have been Communist if your country hadn't influenced them so much "intellectually" Bismarck worst piece of shit for the world ever.
2020-07-15 18:11
#225
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Germany I_car
Cry is free 😎
2020-07-15 18:13
Charles Martel, we would need him now more than ever too.
2020-07-15 16:30
Hail Jean-Marie
2020-07-16 14:04
#216
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Italy thechef
Giuseppe Garibaldi
2020-07-15 16:45
nt
2020-07-15 17:02
In the history of the PRC, Deng Xiaoping. I don't know where China would be in terms of economics and living standards without his reforms
2020-07-15 18:13
Malcom X
2020-07-15 18:26
#229
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Finland ToxicDUD
Carl Gustaf Emil Mannerheim NOBODY comes even close
2020-07-15 18:28
#326
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Finland OldStager
+1
2020-07-16 15:09
Yeah, a great guy. Managed to keep Finland independent from both USSR and Axis until Soviets pushed too far. A little bit indecisive for my taste, but great nevertheless.
2020-07-20 14:45
#235
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Poland J__ac_pis
Witold Pilecki Geralt of Rivia
2020-07-15 18:38
#241
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Venezuela Kremator
Perez Jimenez, basically a dictator that take on his powers and actually made the country an agro-industrial economic power in the 50s and 60s (and also rekted plenty of lefties)
2020-07-15 18:41
Perez Jimenez statism is what paved the way for Carlos Andres Perez to destroy Venezuela's work and ethics culture, install equalitarianism, and finally make Chavez a desirable candidate.
2020-07-16 23:19
#485
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Venezuela Kremator
Lmao what? PJ statism is what rose the country, if another person (CAP in this case) took advantage of it, the problem was the statism but rather CAP, dont blame the tool, blame the user.
2020-07-17 06:40
You're part of the problem, what Jimenez should've done is shrink and simplify the tax code to compete with West Germany, you really think statism is what lifts nations??? you really, STILL can't realize that that shit is just a ticking bomb??? i guess you cant take the love for populism , statism and collectivism out of a Venezuelan after your culture has been so thoroughly demoralized.
2020-07-17 06:55
Boris Eltcin
2020-07-16 00:17
#505
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Russia pvcure13
ti durak ili baitish
2020-07-17 09:58
#518
Xyp9x | 
Russia Ypp1
ofc baiter
2020-07-17 13:12
Andrzej Duda
2020-07-16 12:28
xDD
2020-07-16 22:08
#264
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Ukraine volod1m1r
Shevchenko (writer)
2020-07-16 12:47
timur, mete han, ertugrul, alp arslan , fatih sultan mehmet, suleyman the magnificent, abdulhamit II and ofc erdogan
2020-07-16 12:52
Viking King Knud (Canute) the Great. Ruled Denmark 1018-1035, England 1016-1035 and Norway 1028-1035 + chunks of Sweden, while forging an alliance with the Normans (former Vikings). That was the culmination of Viking power. Replaced by incompetent sons at his death, and England + Norway was lost. It created a power vacuum, with Saxons, Norwegian Vikings and Normans fighting for control of England. Saxons defeated norwegians at Stamford Bridge, but where themselves defeated by the Normans at Hastings in 1066 ... ending the viking age.
2020-07-16 13:06
As far as I know (I am Danish too) Margrethe I ruled when Denmark was the largest it ever was.
2020-07-17 03:03
Yes, she had Denmark, Norway and Sweden, and she ruled longer than Knud den Store. Sweden is bigger than England, but England is more populous and important.
2020-07-19 21:39
Jair Messias Bolsonaro
2020-07-16 13:28
80/8
2020-07-16 15:18
suahusahsuahsuahsu
2020-07-16 18:01
Nikola Tesla
2020-07-16 13:36
jose de san martin dumb people would say messi or maradona or even peron LMAO
2020-07-16 14:08
but dud maradona won a world cup!!!!! maradona bestest!!
2020-07-16 14:09
+1
2020-07-16 14:28
1.Xantares 2.woxic
2020-07-16 14:22
Mazzaropi
2020-07-16 14:31
FDR
2020-07-16 14:33
aleksi jalli
2020-07-16 14:33
lana rhoades
2020-07-16 14:46
+1
2020-07-16 19:04
+1
2020-07-18 03:32
#322
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Russia kI|
Peter the Great
2020-07-16 15:07
#329
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Poland maxiu
Pilecki Pilsudski Jan III Sobieski Karol Wojtyla - Jan Pawel II Jagiello Kosciuszko etc etc :D
2020-07-16 15:11
#575
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Poland J__ac_pis
Piłsudki kekw
2020-07-17 18:55
Jagiello Jogaila Lithuanian
2020-07-20 08:11
Kosciuszko Lithuanian
2020-07-20 08:21
Gandhi once said: " love is trash, Bitches need cash " so yes national hero indeed.
2020-07-16 15:21
Aníbal Milhais aka Soldier Millions
2020-07-16 15:29
#351
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Brazil RmM_oo
Hm... I dunno, in 500 years of history I can't name ONE hero that my country had and was flesh and bone Brazilian. If by National you mean that he just changed our History, I would say José Bonifácio de Andrada ( portuguese "Mentor" of Pedro I of Brazil, more important than the Emperor himself). Maybe you can stretch being Hero to accomplish something worldwide, and in this case we have a bunch of people.
2020-07-16 18:21
#354
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United States Festive_
Franklin Roosevelt (FDR) easily top 1 Abraham Lincoln George Washington (not as much these days because slaves) Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.
2020-07-16 18:31
#359
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United Kingdom 3Head
My favourite Americans of all time are : Milton Friedman Thomas Jefferson Abraham Lincoln Ernest Hemmingway
2020-07-16 18:57
#382
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United States Festive_
Friedman is a great pick. I'm not a fan of Jefferson because to be honest the words he's most famous for were copied from Locke and also he was EXTREMELY racist and wrote about it often. Lincoln is dope obviously. Hemingway although super cool is not that famous so in terms of favorite Americans sure but not a national hero. My personal favorite Americans are Jimmy Carter, John Marshall, Frederick Douglas, and Eleanor Roosevelt :) My personal favorite Brits are Paul McCartney, Robert Burns, Alfred the Great, and Alexander Fleming
2020-07-16 20:35
#384
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United Kingdom 3Head
Yeah, I understand your argument about Jefferson, I guess for me the constitution is probably the greatest single piece of political literature ever. The most important too. Curious to why you would pick jimmy carter? I personally believe that carter, LBJ and Obama are the 3 worst presidents of the 20th/21st century. Though I would say that Carter seems like a lovely man. Hemingway is just a personal thing lol
2020-07-16 21:24
#479
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United States Festive_
yikes you must be extremely conservative. Hubert Hoover? Richard Nixon? Donald Trump? Warren G. Harding? George W. Bush? Even Reagan was worse than LBJ and Obama. Reagan only looks better than Carter because Carter set him up for success. LBJ created what is known as "The Great Society" and was big on the war on poverty. he also signed the civil rights act which was incredibly important. jimmy carter sacrificed his political career for the longevity of the economy. he gave the fed free rein to create a recession in order to lower inflation rates right before his election. It's hard to say how history will look at Obama but he did a good job getting us out of recession and regulating the banks so the same recession won't happen again. Also it's ridiculous that America doesn't have socialized medicine and the ACA provided millions of people wtih insurance so definitely not in the bottom 3.
2020-07-17 04:11
#525
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United Kingdom 3Head
I would consider myself a laissez-faire, free-market libertarian, in the same way as Milton Friedman. Which my definition puts me close to Reagan. My reasoning for hating LBJ is obviously the Vietnam war, totally unnecessary and the welfare reform, which in my opinion incentivizes 1 parent families, leading to the breakdown of the nuclear family. In terms of Carter, to me he had some sort of savior complex, expecting Congress to sort of bow down to his policies. I would say he ultimately failed to renew America's trust in government from Ford and nixon and reassert America's leading role within global affairs. His handling with Iran with the US embassy leaves a lot to be desired. In my eyes, Obama was nothing more than a war criminal, dropping more bombs than Bush JR (another lousy president and dragged us into iraq). Another ecnomic hero of mine, Dr Thomas Sowell (Friedman student) notes 'Barack Obama's political genius is his ability to say things that will sound good to people who have not followed the issues in any detail — regardless of how obviously fraudulent what he says may be to those who have.'. Id say the opposite about Donald Trump, his actions speak volumes, but those who do not follow the issues are falsely led to think what he says is hateful & divisive.
2020-07-17 13:50
Varg Vikernes
2020-07-16 19:00
#361
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Brazil kindo
i think dom pedro, the first and the second, ayrton senna, pele, and maicon kuster
2020-07-16 19:02
maicon kuster good choice man
2020-07-17 00:41
countless heroes from all timelines but my favorite is Nikitas Stamatelopoulos aka the Turkeater. His tragic full of struggles life must become movie upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/f..
2020-07-16 19:12
what about Metaxás?
2020-07-16 21:24
Metaxas is hated by leftists because he rekt them and by a large portion of nationalists cuz they insist that he was British puppet . I personally admire him because he walked on razors edge alone and within 3 years he fixed a totally destroyed country in all aspects.
2020-07-17 02:38
fair enough
2020-07-17 20:15
If Ancient Greece counts than the choice is way too wide
2020-07-20 14:35
indeed
2020-07-21 11:19
JFK. There are definitely others but the Americans above have already said those so I'm just gonna say JFK here.
2020-07-16 19:12
#401
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Romania melinh0
-1 Johnny Sins
2020-07-16 21:41
JFK was such a great man, sadly him and his brother were too great for this rotten world we live in.
2020-07-21 12:13
#375
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Turkey heilung
Oghuz Khan, Mete, Bilge Khan, Alparslan, 2.Mehmed,Ataturk
2020-07-16 19:14
Martin Kok
2020-07-16 19:32
Wait what it should be geert wilders
2020-07-16 22:53
Xuxa
2020-07-16 19:37
Jarda Kužel
2020-07-16 21:27
Mythical101
2020-07-16 21:27
Otto von bismarck from my german side and Willem van Oranje from my dutch side both awesome dudes
2020-07-16 21:30
#690
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Netherlands Titanos
Can confirm, knew them personally, +1
2020-07-21 01:19
William Wallace or Robert the Bruce
2020-07-16 21:35
Churchill Admiral Nelson Richard I
2020-07-16 21:38
#399
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Romania melinh0
Gheorghe Hagi Simona Halep and DRACULA
2020-07-16 21:39
i wonder what would halep look like now if she didnt do the surgery...
2020-07-20 07:58
Ambiorix Leopold II
2020-07-16 21:44
1)Bogdan Khmelnitsky 2)Daniil "Zeus" Teslenko
2020-07-16 21:46
Well well Turks have many but top3 would be Mete Khan - founder of first Turks' state and inventor of the today's army rank system Mehmet II - very based sultan khan that flexed over the world once Atatürk - best leader the humankind ever seen honorable mention: nusret gökce aka salt bae
2020-07-16 21:55
i really enjoyed the netflix series about Mehmet II where he conquered constantinople
2020-07-17 03:08
I dont know about that but the film Fetih 1453 is considered the best film about the conquest, I recommend mensss
2020-07-17 12:02
Aleksandr Pistoletov
2020-07-16 22:03
Karl Marx
2020-07-16 23:10
Karl is a fucking Jews-German
2020-07-17 07:41
Aleksandr Pistoletov obv
2020-07-16 22:07
oh yeah, dongcopter pirate
2020-07-17 03:14
#423
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Germany M1n1M3
Michael Schumacher EZ
2020-07-16 22:10
Bach
2020-07-16 23:08
#431
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Sweden Zaser5
Gustav Vasa
2020-07-16 22:29
#443
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Sweden FL4XY
+1
2020-07-16 23:26
#433
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Brazil Triarii
Dom Pedro I
2020-07-16 22:49
o primeiro era meio doente, o segundo era melhor
2020-07-17 00:40
Ele meio q declarou a independência e vazou pra portugal
2020-07-17 02:49
Berat Albayrak
2020-07-17 00:08
john wick
2020-07-17 00:42
Alexander Nevsky Evpaty Kolovrat Ivan 3 Ivan Susanin Kuzma Minin and Dmitry Pozharsky Petr Koshka Dasha Sevastopolskaya
2020-07-17 01:02
''absolutely''
2020-07-17 02:44
#507
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Russia pvcure13
?what
2020-07-17 10:00
XD the same guy
2020-07-17 10:25
Nelson Mandela
2020-07-17 01:03
#460
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Argentina Gchzr
El General José de San Martín
2020-07-17 01:48
no messi? :(
2020-07-17 02:49
Maradona has a way higher profile in Argentina. Even if Messi won the WC he can't change the fact that he was born with a silverspoon in his mouth, very much unlike Maradona. People tend to like other people who came from nothing to greatness. Maradona is a man of the people, whether you like him or not.
2020-07-17 02:58
#515
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Argentina Gchzr
Nice explanation, It's true, but i have to add that new generations are mostly Messi's fans and older generations Maradona's.
2020-07-17 13:05
#574
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Lebanon Dogman69
Messi has no personality
2020-07-17 18:49
Juan Domingo Peron or Juan Manuel Rosas.
2020-07-17 02:51
#470
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Germany Enlay
Bismarck ofc
2020-07-17 03:03
Luis Inácio Messias Bolsonaro
2020-07-17 03:25
Buffon
2020-07-17 05:56
+1
2020-07-17 11:17
#490
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Germany leftist
Mustafa Kemal Atatürk Not only our national hero, but an example for the whole humanity
2020-07-17 07:11
Ataturk was jerman? 🤔
2020-07-17 09:06
Being german Being humanity
2020-07-19 18:08
#492
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Oceania cwns
Steve Irwin
2020-07-17 07:36
tony abbott
2020-07-17 08:21
Karl Marx and Vladimir Lenin
2020-07-17 09:18
I'm confused
2020-07-17 09:51
#520
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France daniel19
you shouldn't flag checks out
2020-07-17 13:13
FORSAKEN FORSAKEN FORSAKEN FORSAKEN FORSAKEN FORSAKEN PRO NATIONAL HERO WE GOT WITH US IN OUR COUNTRY 😎
2020-07-17 10:00
how much?
2020-07-17 13:15
Yaroslav I the Wise Bogdan Khmelnitsky Taras Shevchenko Nikolai Amosov Stepan Bandera (debatable)
2020-07-17 13:12
#572
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Poland J__ac_pis
Chmielnicki aka brainlet and Bandera aka war criminal, nice one xD
2020-07-17 18:47
For you - one is brainlet and other is war criminal. For us its heros. 100% sure it goes other way if you list list of polish national heros.
2020-07-17 21:17
actually yea, poles are always crying about Bandera etc. but, at the same time, Jozef Pilsudski is a national hero for them. the guy whose army was murdering and robbing german, lithuanian, ukranian, belarussian civilians. I dont hate them, but poles are like russians in this case. They address the only one side of the coin. double standarts
2020-07-18 03:22
+1
2020-07-18 10:58
#629
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Ukraine Sleim1
+1
2020-07-19 17:48
Crackhead George Floyd
2020-07-17 14:41
Niki Benz
2020-07-17 14:57
Prof. Doutor António de Oliveira Salazar
2020-07-17 15:17
hehe +1
2020-07-18 03:41
+1
2020-07-21 13:32
Mikhail "Dosia" Stolyarov
2020-07-17 15:19
osama bin laden
2020-07-17 16:18
aleksi "allu" jalli
2020-07-17 17:05
Jari Litmanen
2020-07-17 17:20
MLK probably. Really depends on what era of our history you're talking about in all honesty though
2020-07-17 17:25
Karadjordje
2020-07-17 17:30
Chris Redfield
2020-07-17 20:27
Goce Delcev Jane Sandanski Pitu Guli Dame Gruev Kire Lazarov Goran Pandev Elif Elmas
2020-07-17 20:30
gratisfaction
2020-07-18 02:44
#591
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Brazil mibrzera
Bolsonaro
2020-07-18 02:55
that's me
2020-07-18 03:30
gitler
2020-07-18 03:45
Vytautas the great
2020-07-18 14:51
King Danylo Halytskyi (for my region he did a lot) the best one
2020-07-18 14:52
BANDERA PRUYDE PORYADOK NAVEDE
2020-07-18 14:57
otto jespersen
2020-07-18 15:31
for Ireland our main one would be Patrick Pearse one of the leaders of the 1916 Easter Rising while the Rising failed battle wise it was the key moment which finally saw us gain independence from the British empire after over 800 years of enslavement and an ethnic cleansing attempt we barely survived
2020-07-19 02:58
Liviu Dragnea 🧐
2020-07-19 05:10
why does this thread still exist?
2020-07-19 17:37
#628
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Georgia Megobari
And why it shouldn't?
2020-07-19 17:43
this shit have like 3 or 4 days, nothing here lasts so long
2020-07-19 18:36
#652
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Georgia Megobari
Looks like I created cool thread :D
2020-07-19 20:21
Mannerheim
2020-07-19 17:42
osama bin laden
2020-07-19 18:53
wth man
2020-07-19 20:01
joke men))
2020-07-20 05:51
wasn't he saudi?
2020-07-21 12:14
he was, but during his final years he lived in pakistan, jokes aside no one considers him as a hero however our shit pm called him a martyr a few weeks back
2020-07-21 14:20
Roman Polański
2020-07-19 20:19
a child rapist?
2020-07-21 12:21
I don't know if he raped any child. What I know is that he made many great movies which I enjoyed watching.
2020-07-21 18:53
President Washington Non-president MacArthur Non-political or military Wright Brothers
2020-07-19 20:24
Brazil - Bolsonaro
2020-07-20 07:47
isnt he the guy that gets insulted by every brazilian here?
2020-07-20 08:45
Much of Gediminid Dynasty
2020-07-20 07:54
Tommy Vercetti
2020-07-20 08:00
D. Pedro I & D. Pedro II
2020-07-20 08:27
We have a lot. One of the biggest is Stepan Bandera ofc.
2020-07-20 08:29
Having a nazi terrorist as a national hero, lmao
2020-07-20 09:19
Aleksi Lehikoinen (gettomasa) or Erna Husko
2020-07-20 14:23
#685
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Portugal P3rfect
ÉDERRRRRRRRR
2020-07-20 14:51
Abraham Lincoln He suffered tragedy after tragedy in his life but he still stayed strong and kept our country together when it was falling apart.
2020-07-21 12:20
Tesla Gavrilo Princip
2020-07-21 12:27
Salazar Cristiano Ronaldo Amália Rodrigues Camões D.Afonso Henriques
2020-07-21 13:39
bolsonaro queiroz flavio eduardo
2020-07-21 18:59
Wisla Krakow
1.91
SKADE
1.85
Dignitas
6.59
Secret
1.11
Natus Vincere
1.47
mousesports
2.62
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