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1 ms monitor question
ty1er | 
Russia ty1ercs 
I'm about to buy this 144 Hz monitor with 5 ms: .hp.com/uk/en/monitors/product-details/2.. Is 1ms so important or not? I wanna buy this monitor cuz it's so much cheaper than BenQ XL2411P
2020-07-16 16:27
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1ms more important than 144 Hz
2020-07-16 16:29
1ms 144 hz or 5ms 144 hz?
2020-07-16 16:29
Better or worse?
2020-07-16 16:30
No
2020-07-16 16:32
bro pls get a life stop playing with your alts
2020-07-16 16:32
I dont have alts, he is finn im bruneian
2020-07-16 16:33
Lost all respect for HLTV_NATIONAL_GUARD
2020-07-16 16:47
Lost all respect for Christian_Sorensen Wait Never had any.
2020-07-16 17:42
Lost all respect for BabaBlackSheep96
2020-07-16 17:48
Cmon mannnnnnnnn uk its 69 Stop disrespecting me
2020-07-16 18:29
No because you disrespected me
2020-07-16 18:32
Im sorry mens I love you)))
2020-07-16 18:33
Regained all respect for BabaBlackSheep69
2020-07-16 18:33
See you soon sir
2020-07-16 18:40
Very nice hltv bug
2020-07-16 16:46
Yes
2020-07-16 16:47
Better or worse?
2020-07-16 16:30
Yes
2020-07-16 16:31
Very nice hltv bug
2020-07-16 16:46
Ofc
2020-07-16 16:47
Better or worse?
2020-07-16 16:30
Yes
2020-07-16 16:31
Very nice hltv bug
2020-07-16 16:46
Veri nice
2020-07-16 16:47
why not both?
2020-07-16 16:31
LMAOOOO both then why u ask
2020-07-16 16:32
5hz 144ms
2020-07-16 16:32
#46
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Mexico tscXvnx
144hz - real 1ms - not.
2020-07-16 17:14
? what do you mean
2020-07-16 17:19
#51
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Mexico tscXvnx
there is no any standert to determine input lag so you can use any in your product. GtG for exaple - absolutely useless shit. It says the lower possible time 1 pixel need to go from gray to gray (not even full cycle). You can take 10 diff monitor with 1ms and they all will have differernt real input lag
2020-07-16 17:23
nope, 1ms isn't even a value you get everytime so your point is invalid. refresh rate is an actual value that is consistent and noticable, 1ms is a myth, it's more than 1ms if you have anything with more than 1 color on your screen already.
2020-07-16 17:55
It's not necessarily as important, but with higher pixel response time comes higher rish of ghosting. I'd try to find some direct comparisons online, preferably videos as it should be more apparent there
2020-07-16 16:31
#9
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Portugal NabasKi
It's not important, you won't be able to to notice the difference and won't be necessary unless you're pro, or something. They advertise it's 1 ms but it never is anyway.
2020-07-16 16:31
what about input lag?
2020-07-16 16:33
#19
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Portugal NabasKi
Usually not something you should worry about. I've got a screen connected to my laptop, a friend of mine told me about the chance of it being noticeable but I haven't really noticed it.
2020-07-16 16:34
So, even on BenQ Xl2411P it's not truly 1 ms? Just a marketing?
2020-07-16 16:50
#33
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Portugal NabasKi
Yes, it's just marketing.
2020-07-16 16:58
#48
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Mexico tscXvnx
you should. I had AOC Q3279VWF. 75hz 5ms looks fine... but real input lag was MUCH higher. It was soooo uncomfortable to work on this monitor
2020-07-16 17:18
#52
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Portugal NabasKi
Well, mine doesn't feel uncomfortable to me.
2020-07-16 17:40
if you wont notice 1/10th of a second playin fps you better play for fun only
2020-07-16 17:07
#40
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Portugal NabasKi
True, but a millisecond is 1/1000th of a second.
2020-07-16 17:08
true, but i heard once, that the liquid crystal take more than just the 1ms to change fully, even if they do their marketing different
2020-07-16 17:11
has been a youtube video month ago, couldnt find it..
2020-07-16 17:13
tn panel = sucky sucky. try Acer Nitro VG0 VG240YSbmiipx or AOC 24G2U/BK
2020-07-16 16:34
#34
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Portugal NabasKi
24G2 is the way to go.
2020-07-16 16:58
u will get ping anyways
2020-07-16 16:34
A few days ago you could get a Viewsonic 24 inch IPS 144hz 1ms Freesync Display for 155 Eur lol 10times better that that 22 inch.
2020-07-16 16:34
unless you have a reaction time of 1ms-5ms then no
2020-07-16 16:49
Mens just get AOC G2460PF best monitor ive ever bought 144hz 1ms and should be pretty cheap now i got it for 350 like 3 years ago
2020-07-16 16:50
How much does this monitor cost? Nowadays you can get pretty cheap 1 ms 144 hz 24 inch monitors for around 170€.
2020-07-16 16:53
#35
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Portugal NabasKi
They probably have really bad color accuracy though. He might be better off spending a couple euros more.
2020-07-16 16:59
True, your always better off paying more. But personally I would never buy a 21,5 inch monitor even though it has good colours.
2020-07-16 17:00
1ms is much more important. While tn panels often have worse color accuracy than ips tns are superior in response time which matters much more when it comes to competitive games. I did read that there is an ips monitor out with 1ms a few months back, but it is probably on the expensive side.
2020-07-16 17:03
didnt open the link, but dont buy tn panel
2020-07-16 17:04
not everyone is obsessed with color
2020-07-16 17:12
+1 TN panels are shit
2020-07-16 17:50
I have IPS monitor rn
2020-07-17 07:27
Well is playing on a 41ms vs 45ms server notable to u ? OFC you would choose 41ms every time if it was up to u, but _MOST_ of the time it does not matter if its 1ms vs 5ms.
2020-07-16 17:13
#45
alex | 
Spain mokerz
1ms more important than 144
2020-07-16 17:13
#47
alex | 
Spain mokerz
work a little bit more and go for 244hz man
2020-07-16 17:15
#50
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Lithuania Janbob
Buy 1ms 240hz and stop thinking
2020-07-16 17:20
bro, in these 4ms i can get an ace))
2020-07-16 17:44
144hz + 1ms is required imo
2020-07-16 17:47
anything under 5-6ms is good. They measure it under the most optimal conditions so they can get to write the lowest values on the box, but in reality most 1ms monitors will not be 1ms when you're playing games. You can safely go with a 5ms monitor, refresh rate is much, much important anyways. Don't listen to kids who say 1ms is more important because it's not, it's just for advertising and you won't notice the difference between a 1ms and 4-5ms monitor when you're playing.
2020-07-16 17:50
#59
steel | 
Other ToRu
100hz 1ms or 144hz 3ms ?
2020-07-16 17:53
144hz 3ms, i use 280hz 5ms
2020-07-16 18:27
#68
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Israel GrandpaZ
The higher the refresh rate, the more "smooth" movement on screen youre going to have. Also, The higher the refresh rate, the demand for more aggressive response time increases to eliminate ghosting. If the response time is too aggressive you may have an artifact called overshoot , which is quiet annoying to the eyes, so the best monitors has enough response time to eliminate ghosting in high refresh rate without causing overshoot artifacts. The advertised response time for the fast panels is usually exaggerated and achieved under very specific condition , usually with tons of overshoot . So in reality, usually it'll be more than whats advertised. For example, acer nitro xf252q which i think is the fastest panel rn (its a TN) has an actual average g2g response time of ~2.6ms without overshoot (its advertised as 0.3ms) . The new fast ips panels can have ~3.5 which is amazing for an ips. so all in all, a combination of high refresh rate and fast response time is what accounts for a butter smooth motion without any ghosting. Another aspect is input lag. Practically any modern TN and the new fast ips panels has practically zero input lag, so no worries there. Honestly, if youre playing other games than csgo/care about actual color quality, and you can keep above 240 fps constantly, i would go with the new fast ips 240hz panels like the msi optix mag251rx or asus vg259qm. The price difference between these and 144 is not huge nowadays, so i dont see a point in buying a 144 unless you find something for an insanely low price.
2020-07-17 09:39
Get a 1ms monitor
2020-07-17 09:29
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