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mohamed | 
Pakistan ;---) its incredible the progress china achieved in such short amount of time, i think it never happened in other societies throughout history
2020-07-17 21:56
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Yeah , for that to happen we had H1N1, SARS and now COVID-19. All made in china
2020-07-17 21:57
Wow its like Europeans also killed millions of natives with disease
2020-07-17 22:11
wow you are really so American
2020-07-17 22:14
lol im chinese, but american citizen
2020-07-17 23:49
ofc u are hahahahah
2020-07-18 00:33
name checks out, all Americans are white btw
2020-07-18 06:41
flag checks out, hf living in poverty
2020-07-18 12:20
we have a fucking canal, mr viking
2020-07-18 15:30
I dont care about a canal lmao.
2020-07-18 16:02
name checks out, white supremacist
2020-07-20 11:51
Panamá is not that poor, maybe you want to check that one out mr "nordic superiority"
2020-07-20 10:48
you do realize that when the European explorers came to the new world the natives weren't immune to the viruses the Europeans had on them since that was their first ever encounter that's why they died, not like the Chinese who made the virus by eating fucking bats.
2020-07-18 00:46
Just because you wrote a paragraph explaining both sides doesn't mean you even said anything to counter his argument. You never actually explained why one is worse than the other.
2020-07-18 01:23
the europeans didnt create a virus, the chinese did there you go
2020-07-18 01:26
No viruses are "created" by people naturally, but I'll let you pass on that one. In both scenarios, native viruses are transferred to non-native populations via trade/travel/conquest. This is a bad take. Especially considering the European viruses were way more deadly than COVID.
2020-07-18 01:31
2020-07-18 01:42
The problem is you're assuming the source is bats based on some rumor, which may be factually incorrect. And that's just the surface level problem with your argument.
2020-07-18 01:44
well of course we don't know but what else is wrong with my argument? :) you can't say its wrong because there was absolutely nothing we could've prevented of the natives dying but coronavirus we could have try to tell me how we could have prevented it if so
2020-07-18 01:46
Well considering there are many cases of European settlers intentionally transmitting diseases to natives, your argument falls apart. South Park even made a parody episode on this. You clearly don't have all the facts. I learned all this in history class.
2020-07-18 01:48
"You clearly don't have all the facts. I learned all this in history class" sounds like a sentence an autist would've put together. many of the settlers didn't even realize skin to skin with the natives meant death, and they probably would've died with later encounters. and it wasnt untill the late 19th century until people starting understanding how infections worked and by then they were mostly wiped out.
2020-07-18 01:56
You clearly don't understand the sentences meaning and don't have a lot of common sense. I've been educated on this in school and have done my own research, you clearly have not. Europeans intentionally spreading diseases is a known fact. Literally use google and see, but you probably did and saw I was right. Nothing about your incorrect ramblings on human knowledge on diseases changes a historical fact. You're insulting my intelligence, but sitting here continuing to argue after a known fact has already disproved your terrible argument.
2020-07-18 01:59
wow bro your basically calling me an idiot and telling me how wrong I am and how educated you are but since that Europeans have been intentionally spreading viruses can you give me a good source where there was a lot of intentionally spreading of viruses because all of the sources said "quite few cases"
2020-07-18 02:05
Lmao even you're admitting it happened. And even if it was just a few KNOWN cases, the spread is still more intentional than COVID. But, it's time for you to start doing some explaining. There's no known source for COVID, so how are you so sure it was preventable as opposed to European to native transmission supposedly was?
2020-07-18 02:11
still didnt send me a single source
2020-07-18 12:40
You looked it up yourself and admitted it. You're asking for a source AFTER you looked it up and found the info yourself??? lol wtf dude. Just take the L and move on.
2020-07-18 14:08
I never admitted anything but okay dumbass
2020-07-18 19:42
"all of the sources said "quite few cases"" You're dumb dude lmao, you literally said all the sources say quite few cases. I know you're salty, but saying left is right doesn't make it true. You said what you said, own up to it.
2020-07-18 19:44
okay can you send me one then? please i would love to see one and there is no good source on it
2020-07-18 19:45
Why would I have to? You said yourself the sources say quite few cases. Unless you were lying like the rest of your BS argument and you never looked at any sources. hmmm... But, I'll be nice and give you a source even though you're a liar:
2020-07-18 19:49
are you like a 40 year old virgin on the internet who calls people liars and my arguements bs because you clearly dont know what your talking about or are you just a guy who sits on the internet and never went outside. And also your source said "white Europeans and white Americans deliberately promoting the spread of smallpox among unsuspecting American Indians to clear them off the land." that doesnt mean that they were spreading it intentionally, it means that they actually wanted them dead and of the land they owned and also the case with Ecuyer is also quite recent if you think about it, 1837 and these cases were rare thats why you could only find this one source when we actually kinda knew how infections worked, and this was way after most of the native population died, but of course your always gonna have a dumbass whos gonna do this, same with coronavirus there is people who are spreading it on purpose but you are hating on us europeans because we were the one actually stood behind the colonization of america
2020-07-18 20:02
Jesus Christ are you mentally ill? "that doesnt mean that they were spreading it intentionally, it means that they actually wanted them dead and of the land they owned" This is a literal Chewbacca argument, the two things you wrote aren't mutually exlusive. Just accept you lost an internet argument and move on. Do you even read the BS you're writing. "white Europeans and white Americans deliberately promoting the spread of smallpox among unsuspecting American Indians to clear them off the land." I think the account and meaning is very clear. You're absolutely pathetic. Writing long paragraphs saying left is right and up is down doesn't make it right.
2020-07-18 23:38
stop fighting him, clearly delusional ahmed who wont lisen to anything
2020-07-19 15:56
and even typing in an argument "your argument falls apart." is just bruh
2020-07-18 01:57
When you've been disproven, just start arguing about word choice and sentence structure. lmao.
2020-07-18 02:01
you haven't proved anything you imbecile
2020-07-18 12:41
You have been disproven loser.
2020-07-18 14:07
Imagine holding todays China to the same standard of 1600s Europe.
2020-07-19 14:07
Well I'm not, that's what the other guy is doing. I'm saying they're both different cases.
2020-07-19 15:14
of course man, the virus just happened to originate from a province that has a known virology lab. Total coincidence!!!!!!
2020-08-06 03:39
Lmao. Major urban centers both having large research institutions and being susceptible to spreading disease is a coincidence? No that's a symptom of having a large population.
2020-08-06 04:26
Not about spreading disease though is it, it's the first cases of a disease. China has admitted itself the virus was first seen in the Wuhan region. Wuhan region that has a virology lab and you don't find that suspicious at all? Are all Chinese brainwashed or something? You can find something suspicious and not betray your country....
2020-08-06 16:33
Yes, everyone who disagrees with you on anything about China is automatically from China. Excellent logic there dude. And you seemed to ignore the part where I mentioned most metropolitan areas have large research facilities. And diseases are more likely to start and spread in large, crowded cities. It may be from a lab, who knows? Do you have any evidence except for opinions based on flawed logic? Doesn't look like it.
2020-08-06 17:27
I mean anyone who is willing to defend a country that is committing atrocities currently and has 0 respect for any person or culture group other than themselves is quite clearly part of this culture group or they are deluded. I only stated that it was weird how the virus is first seen in the exact same place china has a virology lab. VIROLOGY, a lab that specialises in viruses. Legit you cannot see that as a coincidence... Do you have any evidence to prove that it did not originate from Wuhan where there is a virology lab? Do you have any evidence that it was not accidentally released due to neglect? Doesn't look like it, typical bot account....
2020-08-06 17:33
I'm not defending anything. Your entire argument strategy is based on baseless strawmans and other useless insults. Or you actually believe what you're saying, which is even more sad. You also don't understand how burden of evidence works. Saying it probably originated in a virology lab is a claim which you need substantiate with evidence. I'm saying no one knows where it came from because there's no evidence on either side to substantiate anything. Scientists from all over the world have also stated there is no evidence for COVID originating in a lab months ago. No one agrees with you dude whose opinion actually matters at least.
2020-08-06 17:41
What insults have I said? I never said it originated in a virology lab, I said it's weird how a virus was first discovered in the exact same province as this lab. It's suspicious which is what I have been saying this entire time if you could step away from your brainwashing... What I am saying doesn't really need a disagree / agree, it's legit an observation that everyone can see. It's very suspicious that a virus started in a province with a virology lab. Not wasting my time any more with a bot account. go spread your communist, anti-Human-Rights propaganda elsewhere.
2020-08-06 17:45
I consider calling people bots an insult. I think most people other than you do too. I'm not saying anything. It can be from a lab, who knows? It's a distinct possibility, but there's no actual evidence to back that up. That's what I've been saying, but you insist on arguing about what's a very logical fact based conclusion supported by the scientific community. You're calling me a bot for believing in the scientifically recognized, accepted conclusion on this issue. That's incredibly ridiculous.
2020-08-06 17:52
one is negligence the other is feigned ignorance to save some small money in exchange for fucking over the rest of the world
2020-07-18 02:16
It's not like the Europeans cared if they were spreading disease. In fact they actively took advantage of it, look at how Hernan Cortes conquered the Aztecs.
2020-07-18 02:18
well, even then we're not comparing the diseased dicks of the euros vs the chinese. the main point is that it's literally 2020 (lel) and they're still fucking around with bat gumbo
2020-07-18 02:19
Yeah, I agree they should invest more in food safety and shut down their live animal markets.
2020-07-18 02:20
it's not really the bat itself that get eaten the problem, if bred keeping the animal safe for humans i don't get why they shouldn't eat it.
2020-07-18 02:34
Yes, but those viruses much have originated from somewhere, yes? AKA Europe lmao
2020-07-18 01:35
so how do you think the europeans should've approched the natives? just stand away from them and not touch them even though they didn't know that they were carrying viruses that they were not immune to? there was nothing that was gonna save them, but coronavirus is something we could've prevented by not eating animals that we know have a lot of viruses and are not fucking normal to eat
2020-07-18 01:42
United Kingdom 230IQUSER
i might be wrong but wasn't pathology quite recent during that time compared to now where we know much more than then?
2020-07-18 04:30
Keep eating bats so you learn more
2020-07-18 13:09
why can't the bats be eaten? Human has the rights to eat everything. The H1N1 is from schweinfleisch, so fking stop to eat it.
2020-07-19 13:40
Europeans made those viruses by sleeping with pigs, goats etc.
2020-07-19 16:38
They could just implement a lockdown wtf
2020-08-06 03:39
its like you are actually originally from europe
2020-07-17 22:53
stop for a moment and reflect about what you said, so stupid can you eurokuks not be xenophobic? yeah, impossible
2020-07-17 22:55
at least learn how to spell cuck.
2020-07-17 23:01
Do you like Covid-19 ? That is coming from China, not my fault i speak the truth, it is what it is. How im racist/xenophobic because i stated the truth and only that ?
2020-07-18 00:29
H1n1 was from North America tho, get urself educated
2020-07-18 12:55
Probably a pig that went from China to Mexico mr Einstein.
2020-07-18 13:04
Didn’t know someone can be this retarded, but again hltv nothing is surprising
2020-07-18 13:55
Be aware of chinese mexicans
2020-07-18 14:07
imagine cailling europeans eurokuks and then telling them to stop being xenophobic all in the same sentence favela level of hypocrisy
2020-07-18 01:16
thats the point, sexyboy. euros dont suffer from that, obviously
2020-07-18 05:54
2020-07-17 23:58
H1N1 is from US, where HIV was discovered...
2020-07-18 01:40
Finland Jodecast
How hard is it to understrand that discovered and created are not the same thing?
2020-07-18 02:13
same with China LMAO
2020-07-18 12:19
I wonder why China wont let any outsider come in and investigate where Covid is coming from and how it spread. Every other country that had similar situations let the international community get involved but not China. They afraid of something or what ?
2020-07-18 13:08
The truth is China reject the investigation request from US and Australia, and agreed the investigation under WHO authorization. US can be a part of that but they withdraw the organization.
2020-07-19 00:20
Under WHO who they have the most influence .. ehmm. I could understand why they wouldnt want US with all the latest issues between them but Australia ? Ehm.. Also i heard France wanted to do something down there also and denied.
2020-07-19 01:10
That statement was released with a lot of other countries. Anyway, a lot of countries have found covid exist in wastewater samples from early 2019. It might exist already long before we discover it.
2020-07-20 00:17
So why to deny investigation there if theres nothing to be afraid of ?
2020-07-20 02:39
They did not reject the investigation from WHO, which most of the countries support, which US choose to quit. They reject US request of sending people by US. Why would a independent country allow other independent country to investigate themselves? Does US allow any country sending people to their land and investigate their affairs? When there are rumors about US military labs, did US allow investigation from other countries to clear themselves? I don't mean the rumors are real, I don't quite believe either. This should be the problem about how countries deal things with each other. US should not be more suprior than other countries.
2020-07-21 20:21
covid is made by us u mongoloid
2020-07-18 19:44
What are you smoking ! I want some too !
2020-07-18 20:13
prove me that it was made by china being released in china doesn't mean that Chinese gov made it
2020-07-19 16:10
Let Australia and France do a research down there to find who, where and when and ill prove it to you. Not letting anyone do any investigation about how virus started there , who was the zero patient, what really happened means something you hiding isnt mongoloid ? You dont want truth to come out, thats all. Prove me otherwise now.
2020-07-19 16:14
yeah france aka EU and USA cocsucker will make a fair research xaxaxaxa
2020-07-19 16:53
What about Australia then ?! Is Australia EU or USA ? I understand why to afraid of USA but France has nothing to do with USA you mongoloid. You know pretty well this is china made similar to SARS. When SARS first found in china ( again ) it was EU mainly who helped with that and did a major research about SARS. But now is enemy ha ? Propaganda at its finest HLTV version You got headshoted already , move on Asian player. You better focus on viruses.
2020-07-19 20:20
France and Australia have nothing to do with US>>>? LOL.
2020-08-06 04:37
china numba juan
2020-07-17 21:58
and people say communism doesnt work
2020-07-17 22:00
all they achieved is thanks to capitalism nt
2020-07-17 22:01
I forgot they are only communist when they do something bad
2020-07-17 22:04 TLDR: china is a state capitalist model
2020-07-17 22:05
I know. I just find it funny how they are communists when they are accused of organ harvesting and capitalist when they show good growth economically or through innovation
2020-07-17 22:06
people are retarded nowadays, calling everyone they don't like or agree with as fascists and communists, without even knowing what actually means.
2020-07-17 22:09
cam | 
United States girls
nt libtard
2020-07-17 22:09
i'm fascist wtf. nt ben shapiro
2020-07-17 22:10
United States vip3r_k1ng
Facist is even worse wtf???
2020-07-17 22:18
nt libtard
2020-07-17 22:20
nt Mussolini I'm a conservative
2020-07-18 09:15
you prefer liberals instead of me :'(
2020-07-18 09:41
I pretty much get called communist/racist/feminism/chauvinist/capitalist on any given day.
2020-07-17 22:11
That is very true lol, for #11. hahahaha
2020-07-18 01:45
Russia goodjob
because it can be both? their economic system is state capitalism.. but capitalism is just that - an economic system.. Capitalism doesn't dictate/create your politics
2020-07-18 08:35
Yes, it does, how are going to have capitalistic companies if everything is owned by the state?
2020-07-18 09:39
Russia goodjob
State capitalism is an economic system in which the state undertakes business and commercial economic activity (i.e. for-profit) and where the means of production are organized and managed as state-owned enterprises (including the processes of capital accumulation, centralized management and wage labor), or where there is otherwise a dominance of corporatized government agencies (agencies organized along business-management practices) or of public companies such as publicly listed corporations in which the state has controlling shares they already basically have that since the late 70s in China but it's just economy, everything else can be full blown communist
2020-07-18 21:41
No you cant be capitalist and communist at the same time. They are state capitalists.
2020-07-18 15:43
Russia goodjob
your politics can be very much communist if you exclude the economy part
2020-07-18 21:38
You cant exclude economy in capitalism though
2020-07-19 00:38
Russia goodjob
you can, because capitalism is an economic system, not a political system
2020-07-19 01:37
thats the same thing bruh
2020-07-19 03:04
Russia goodjob
economic system isn't the same thing as a political system lmao
2020-07-19 03:07
In 2020 it is
2020-07-19 04:16
Russia goodjob
its not even in 2020
2020-07-19 05:02
Dude. It is. Just stop it
2020-07-19 13:18
Russia goodjob
you're delusional
2020-07-19 23:22
You're retarded if you think you can be communist and capitalist at the same time
2020-07-19 23:25
Authoritarian capitalism is a whole lot different from free capitalism in the western countries my friend. Read "Capitalism and Freedom" by Milton Friedman for more info on free capitalism. and Authoritarian Capitalism: Sovereign Wealth Funds and State-Owned Enterprises in East Asia and Beyond (Business and Public Policy) for Authoritarian capitalism
2020-07-17 22:14
Mostly capitalism tbh
2020-07-17 22:11
2020-07-17 22:19
Mostly is a tricky term
2020-07-17 22:19
Communism entirely would never work because equality of outcome will lead to chaos in the long term, hey that's human nature. A Palatable blend of communism and capitalism in the most realistic way would be the way to go but most people oppose this ideology, so might as well stick to capitalism and feed the evergrowing economic machine ya fucking lazy cunts.
2020-07-17 22:27
2020-07-17 22:31
Russia Drapery
Wdym by economic machine? Isn't it good to boost economy?
2020-07-17 22:33
a system that has to grow in order to survive is flawed and most likely has a lifespan
2020-07-17 22:38
Russia Drapery
This literally doesn't mean anything
2020-07-17 22:39
It does when you put on finite resources into the mix
2020-07-17 22:40
Russia Drapery
Yeah that's right. Nobody ever uses finite resources but capitalists.
2020-07-17 22:43
Not historically as frivously as capitalism no
2020-07-17 23:42
The whole idea of capitalism is that people can create wealth and wealth isn’t finite. Are you baiting or seriously this dumb?
2020-07-18 01:14
well I already know that you're dumb american bootlicker so I dont really see the point justifying anything to your middle-class peasant peanut brain
2020-07-19 01:36
Middle class Peasant 0/8
2020-07-19 05:23
Peasant brain
2020-07-19 13:17
Try harder brother
2020-07-19 16:35 answer for first question. Well, define "good" if the meaning of life for every person in this world is to increase the money circulating in the economy then yes.
2020-07-17 22:40
Russia Drapery
Ty for a youtube video lol. No wonder one of the main people's goal in life is increase their conditions they live in and I don't see anything wrong with that.
2020-07-17 22:49
I agree, but the core reason for why people desire to live in better conditions is Happiness, Happiness is a fucking deeply complicated word, you could make a statement like due to capitalistic normality that exists in our world we have unconscious reasons to why we want a better standard of living. However, if the desire for capital didn't exist there is definitely a psychological case you could make where the reason to increase the living conditions of a person wouldn't exist in the first place.
2020-07-17 22:55
Karl Marx said communism is achievable when human has infinite resource. The real problem is our resource is limited and every country every people are fighting for limited resource. Maybe someday when people can control nuclear fusion then we can see a communism society.
2020-07-18 01:49
Russia goodjob
the human "resource" wouldn't be infinite though there will still be inferior and superior individuals, some will still be more productive also a system like that inevitably leads to authoritarianism and dictatorships when the government has too much power someone always seizes it
2020-07-18 08:38
Well, whether human can find a infinite resource is a science question. Before that, communism is not realistic.
2020-07-19 00:17
Well.. Nobody really built a communism country before. Soviet Union was a trial, but failed. Communism doesnt have be like Soviet Union. Obviously China chose another way instead of following USSR.
2020-07-18 01:42
it costed alot to a whole generation of slaves. EDIT: i meant "...generation of people." sorry
2020-08-06 03:20
USSR in 1950 btw much more developed, but compare russia and china today,
2020-07-17 22:04
doesnt look more developed to me
2020-07-18 08:25
how? look how many building, planes and cars in moscow compared to china, today chinese cities are much bigger than most of russias cities.
2020-07-18 08:54
Russia pvcure13
like... compare the populations lmao
2020-07-18 09:33
by bigger i mean much more technological with more cars, planes, big buildings etc
2020-07-18 09:41
Yeah qnd polution is so much greater
2020-07-20 12:01
strong people with a strong work ethic
2020-07-17 22:08
2020-07-17 22:09
Brazil sakaaa
You want to see the reverse of it? Check out how Iraq and Afganistan were in the 60's and 70's
2020-07-17 22:08
in this case its different, religion destroyed those countries, but in china is different, its because of the people and culture. middle eastern people can't achieve what china did, and never will.
2020-07-17 22:12
Brazil sakaaa
yes, that's why i said reverse of it. it was the people and the culture that brought down what those countries had already achieved. also, yes... culture and people does count for a lot, but it could not be done with a little authoritarism on the side. tolerance paradox at it's purest form
2020-07-17 22:22
100% agree my brazilian brother
2020-07-17 22:19
Am I your brother?
2020-07-17 22:31
every hltv user is my brother :')
2020-07-17 22:31
even jermans?
2020-07-17 22:32
every hltv member has a 300+ IQ, so yes, everybody is my brother, even jermans.
2020-07-17 22:33
lets not act like US and soviet among others didnt play part of it
2020-07-17 22:32
Brazil sakaaa
no one is acting like that. but they "just" provided the means for people who already wanted that. i am not against religion, but if there's someone to be blamed it would be those extremists that agreed to be the workforce and scapegoat for it - they got what they wanted.
2020-07-17 22:43
United States iknmv
I do not like the products that are coming from China and that is for sure. However, China is a powerful country with extremely smart individuals. I watched a documentary about How China got so big.. well, it is not a surprise when I listen to the people who are educated there.
2020-07-17 22:09
+1, meanwhile in the west people girls want to create onlyfans and boys want to be wannabe gangsters 😂
2020-07-17 22:13
Scientists should be revered, paid an extremely high wage, and be given a lot of social status. That's the only way America can stay ahead in technology. This dogshit education system with a good immigration system isn't a long term solution.
2020-07-18 01:55
the education system in US is a shithole, like in brazil. RIP
2020-07-18 02:34
American education system is fantastic Quality sucks ass Look at the educational quality in india china and korea Especially india But they're system sucks ass then. Guess you just can't keep both of these together
2020-07-19 13:30
I guess the framework of the education is good, it's the actual teaching that's the awful part. But, the actual teaching is the hard part to fix.
2020-07-19 15:13
2020-07-19 18:16
Don’t you have to pay hundreds of thousands to get a good college degree? Education should be free, so your system sucks.
2020-07-20 13:26
+1 very driven and smart people
2020-07-17 22:32
You should know that’s likely not correct.something you seen from the media probably were chinese my point of view, most of Chinese are nerdy coots.Most of them can’t even think individually.And in China, those who are truly smart or have enormous influence in some areas need to chose the sides whether you stand for ccp or not. If you’re the person who don’t like ccp then it’s done for you because you can’t earn money with your smart in china.There are only 4% of Chinese who once had their university course btw.
2020-07-19 05:52
United States iknmv
Actually, I appreciate what I just read coming from an individual who lives there.
2020-07-20 00:27
>smart individuals >Get shitted in the eyes by ccp every day
2020-07-19 13:31
2020-07-17 22:40 That was the cost of many lives, my friend. People were basically enslaved by the state, LUL
2020-07-17 22:43
Yep, the socialists policies of people like mao and stalin were a disaster and killed millions, but china after 1980 isn't the same of 50s, 60s and 70s from mao. Look china today, the average worker already earn more than a brazilian worker, in 1960 china was poorer than most of african countries.
2020-07-17 22:46
Finland Jodecast
Yeah, but its not like china is the best place to live in, its on the other end of the list
2020-07-18 02:02
looks like china in 1950
2020-07-17 22:45
2020-07-17 22:47
destroyted thousands of cultural artifacts, thank god Taiwan (the real china) brought a lot of artifacts with them. PRC is the worst thing that has ever happened after soviet union
2020-07-17 22:52
funny dog
2020-07-17 23:14
what's funny? It's a fact, Taiwan took a lot of cultural artifacts and there's video proof of the PRC destroying THOUSANDS of artifacts imagine being so retarded that you destroy your cultural heritage, braindeads
2020-07-18 00:49
ahahahah you really retard How we can do both at same time... Taiwan = China so idk wtf are u even talking about.
2020-07-18 01:02
Taiwan and The PRC are distinct political entities that both claim to be the rightful rulers of China
2020-07-18 01:16 Taiwan,[II] officially the Republic of China, They are the real China not your communist shithole lol
2020-07-18 02:18
imagine believing in a name lul The full name of north korea is the Democratic People's Republic of Korea, does this mean NK is democratic? ask any taiwanese if they think they are Chinese and the vast majority of them will say no
2020-07-18 02:59
Hahahahahahahaha Most deluded shit i heard today....lmao It feels like hltv is banned in china and all you are is just ccp workers hahahahahahaha
2020-07-19 13:33
taiwan = illegal state
2020-07-20 02:06
Taiwan =/= China. The difference is that the Taiwanese have the '5 thousand years of history' that the CCP claims their country has, and the PRC has 70. The great leap backward and cultural revolution made the country it is today: a brutal regime that has complete control over its citizens, backed up by a purely superficial and shallow semblance of culture. Nt wumao.
2020-07-19 15:53
nt they pay me a lot more
2020-07-20 02:02
cultural heritage doesnt really mean anything theres a lot to hate the PRC for, but destroying cultural artifacts is far from the top of that list
2020-07-18 01:16
>cultural heritage doesnt really mean anything Commie detected, anyone who cares about their culture would think it's a big deal, obviously it's not on top of a list, but i'm saying they are retards because their only argument for destroying them was "cus revolution"
2020-07-18 02:17
Yea, a lot of artifacts were destroyed. This happened during my grandparents generation, and even as a relatively high ranking official, they weren't able to keep artifacts at home. Was worse off for my dads side of the family as they were just farmers. Getting caught owning artifacts would result in a fine. (From what I'm by my grandparents) (this was before though, now no one cares but rip history and culture) Really stupid imo. But you can't really call Taiwan their own country, I guess you could call them both china in a way. Cause wherever a new dynasty started (in chinese history) it always involved revolutions etc, but they will he considered the new "china" and not the few survivors of the royal family who fled.
2020-08-06 03:12
The British industrial revolution was way more impressive. from the invention of machine parts to full on industry in a matter of decades More impressive than China going from a shithole to a shithole with a couple nice cities ruined by an authoritarian regime and the purging of millions of innocent people in land grabs by the government. Plsu that most of their building is literally cuz of the buillding bubble they've created
2020-07-17 22:57
that's why europe was in a good spot in the last 300 years, the industrial revolution put europe in advantage compared to the rest of the world, but china today is leading in almost all technological fields, it just a matter of time till they have total supremacy.
2020-07-17 22:57
lol china is in no way the leader in technological fields they still have to do massive industrial espionage and even then most products they produce arent even close to western/japanese/korean ones
2020-07-17 23:07
dude, china in AI, 5g, stealth technologcy, balistic systems, radar and many more fields are among the the best, wait a few more years.
2020-07-17 23:38
America is still ahead because we get researchers from China and India. But, as those countries improve they're not gonna come here anymore.
2020-07-18 01:36
2020-07-18 01:50
China ShinnWong
true,but the problem is,in US it's really hard to make a tech marketized for example,internet,it's invent by the US military,but we chinese makes lots of new stuff on it like apps,online payment,iot ect. i read a study that said it takes 5-10 years for US technology from development to marketization,and china only takes 20-22 months
2020-07-18 09:18
A couple of nice cities, lol u are pretty uninformed
2020-07-18 13:05
No you are, the vast majority of China was built by the communist leadership and is rotting away because it was not built to last and no one takes care of their property because they do not own it, you can find multiple videos of people going on massive journeys through China and there are just rotting buildings with people living in them as permanent residence. Aristotle is completely right with his quote about things held in common.
2020-07-18 13:16
Ahhh look I learned all my information from YouTube lmao, enough said. I’ve been to China multiples times in last two decades, tbh I didn’t expect they were able to develop this fast. In 2001 they were far behind most Eu, NA cities.. however when I went back in 2012, 2018 , legitimate makes cities like London, La, Nyc looks extremely undeveloped. You do know youtube is not a valid source? Also wtf are u on about about communism leadership on buildings? China have by far the largest private real estate industry. Probably the most profitable as well
2020-07-18 14:04
+1 As a Chinese myself I'd even be surprised when I see the growth of our cities LOL. Just 10 years ago, the roadways in my village were made of muds and now high-speed railways are connected to every single town in the province.
2020-07-19 22:38
china in 1950 seems liks north korea nowadays
2020-07-17 22:56
exactly, china major cities today looks like singapore,hong kong or some shit like that.
2020-07-17 22:57
Belgium lil_vodka
ahhhhhhhhhhh the good ol days
2020-07-17 23:01
Asia dominating the world nothing new
2020-07-17 23:18
0/8 No matter how much China achieved doesn’t change the fact they are terrorist and are killing Hong Kong people and Tibet in the past. The CCP is treating their people like animals, no way they got respects from other countries.
2020-07-17 23:21
yes they are, but my points is only about the progress they made, regardless i support the people from hong kong.
2020-07-17 23:39
Hong Kong freehk
hey we have similar names
2020-07-18 08:19
looks like china in 1950
2020-07-17 23:27
"The Great Leap Forward (Second Five Year Plan) of the People's Republic of China (PRC) was an economic and social campaign led by the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) from 1958 to 1962" "The Great Leap resulted in tens of millions of deaths,[1] with estimates ranging between 18 million and 45 million deaths" Yeah, China was great in the 50s.
2020-07-17 23:41
my point was to show how much they evolved....
2020-07-17 23:52
sure, they evolved. to what exactly? a police state where people are put in concentration camps for wrongthink and being the 'wrong' religion, terrible environmental protection laws and healthcare, corruption and CCP-favoritism everywhere.. not to mention how they disregard everyone else and try to occupy territories, pressure smaller autonomous regions to give in to them, and blatantly lie to the entire world on basically everything..
2020-07-19 04:25
dude, yes all those things u said are happening, but my point is, china evolved like never seen in history
2020-07-19 06:59
Eh, at the cost of tens of millions of lives (we will never even know the exact figure) and the loss of freedom for 1.5billion people? Not very impressive imo
2020-07-19 15:40
Meanwhile, look the west with Its freedom and human rights, immigrants destroying and rioting, political polarization, wealth inequality, the west will fall, while china will thrive.
2020-07-19 21:34
yeah delete your account bruv, you're either a shit-tier baiter or u literally have iq in the single digits..
2020-07-20 06:41
wait a few years to see the complete anarchy in the west.
2020-07-20 06:48
China is garbage
2020-07-18 00:05
japan in 1950, japan in 1990? both in east asia.
2020-07-18 00:09
Singapore and South Korea as well. Obviously they're tiny compared to China, but the point still stands.
2020-07-18 01:06
well China influenced these countries, so duh yeah
2020-07-18 06:54
America had a similar but less meteoric rise from 1870-1914 America wasnt as isolated or as much of a back water, but they were still far from a world power when reconstruction finally started to wrap up
2020-07-18 01:11
Finland Jodecast
Ofc you are going to rise if you control everything like china does, when you dont care about your people and are ready to sacrifise some for the growth then things will end up like this. Its a machine that has "endless" fuel of workforce to use
2020-07-18 02:06
tbf their education is much more intense and higher than most countries. If not, the highest out of them all. So it would make sense they will have "endless fuel" to use. US and EU would do the same thing if the education is higher than Asia's
2020-07-18 06:51
germany after WW1 and WW2 > all
2020-07-18 02:26
and brazil went to shit since 1950 LUL
2020-07-18 02:49
insane progress, there are more greenhouse gases than oxygen in a large portion of their country
2020-07-18 03:02
china numba wan
2020-07-18 04:33 Shenzhen in 2020 better than most of the other cities in the world.
2020-07-18 06:47
all helicopter shots because the underbelly of the city is too disgusting to witness
2020-07-19 05:59
NA logic?lmfao
2020-07-19 18:01
Ukraine vskgthree
nt wuhan
2020-07-19 21:39
That's NY
2020-08-06 04:44
Trump did talk about proof 4 month ago. But he did not show his proof. USA ready kill own citizens for political goals. EU have less death than USA. USA loses Chine, they use sanctions vs everyone. Chine is totalitarian communist country, but this work, they have good education, technology, economy. RIP Fuyakima's dream.
2020-07-18 08:10
China N30NL4
Love to see some fellows talk about China with such pure ignorance and denial of reality. Humans are born to be emotional and even education cannot make most of us rational enough to stop talking shit on others)))
2020-07-18 08:53
they can't accept china is the new superpower, they can't accept anyone but west countries to be at the top.
2020-07-18 08:55
China N30NL4
Common people always hold some degree of stereotype in their mind and that's totally understandable. I just hate the current political environment that makes ignorance and radical nationalism as a kind of pride and must. "Science should not stand in the way" KEKW And China also has very many retarded nationalists. The world is getting fragmented again.
2020-07-18 09:14
I mean, it's been 70 years since that video and they aren't technically a developed country, they are transitional
2020-07-18 09:11
China N30NL4
Decent job for this large population though...
2020-07-18 09:16
Korea XigNw0w
Not just China it's the world altogether. Think about the U.S in the 50s or pretty much any other country.
2020-07-18 12:05
NK in 1950-1960s > SK in 1950-1960s😎
2020-07-19 05:51
Korea XigNw0w
North wasn't affected as heavily by far as we did.
2020-07-20 10:47
Greece rimeone
robot people country. harmful for world. they ckfk up the envirement and now the virus thing bla bla bla.
2020-07-18 12:08
That progress was achieved under millions of dead people, opening to West and embracing capitalism when their government was under threat of collapse.
2020-07-18 12:51
wonder what progress they would have made at that time if Chiang Kai-shek had won the war with the communists and Mao Zedong would not have come to power
2020-07-18 13:28
ever heard of the weimar republic and hitler? ever heard of the soviet boom post red october? it's easy when you have totalitarian control to redirect labor towards more efficient goals. for example disown all private ground and force farmers to work in centrally planned camps = more efficient labor = economic growth. you should really read the book: why nations fail. it's exactly about these kind of topics. it is predicted in this book that china's growth is not sustainable because any growth or invention that threatens the position of the established elites will not be allowed. for example thomas edison with his lightbulbs bankrupted the candle factories. if in this example in china the candle factories were the economic elites backed by the party, edison would have been liquidated. there is a reason china like to steal so much technology. this way it can pick and choose which tech it wants and which is forbids.
2020-07-18 14:02
China N30NL4
The fallacy of your theory is that the oligarchy of China resides only on some essential industries like resources. The rest of the businesses in the society are yet vibrant in a free market, which means the path of innovation by common people is never blocked by powerful entrepreneurs or politicians. I agree that the stealing of Western technique is an issue but for nonsense can China's technology prosper by solely stealing from others.
2020-07-19 04:27
Belgium Miiyata
As if in western countries companies dont steal infos from ea other lmfao
2020-07-19 05:41
I'm curious whether there will develop a strong middle class in china who also will have political influence. I presume the internet is heavily controlled by the government because it potentially would enable the middle class too hard to organize and exchange freely in political idea's. there are top companies who are private as you say but I have heard from multiple sources that those parties still retain some allegiance to the party and most often top members of those companies are a member of the party. but I am just a civilian not a political genius so we'll have to see what happens in the future.
2020-07-19 10:22
this is way better vibe than today china.
2020-07-18 21:43
it's as if.... they had an industrial
2020-07-19 00:45
That’s what happens when you have a billion people with average IQ of 108 and a dictator getting things done for 70 years
2020-07-19 02:11
Have you ever read The Crowd? These Chinese might be intelligent as individuals but pretty much brain damaged as a whole
2020-07-19 05:49
2020-08-06 03:46
Turkey TheKaiser
It's incredible how could any nation kill up to 60M population of itself by brutality, sad.
2020-07-19 04:18
Muslim kebab talking about wiping their own people btw kekw.
2020-07-19 06:30
Turkey TheKaiser
Atheist bat eater talking about my country kekw Talk to me when you'll get more freedom.
2020-07-19 14:05
Argentina sebaxinho
Well, China is subdivided into different areas, so they killed themselves by our own vision but for them they are "different" clans
2020-07-20 00:39
Turkey TheKaiser
I actually wasn't talking about conflicts between local warlords or clans, I was talking about Mao killing/causing death of nearly 60 Million (yes, 60 Million.) people of his own just because of his policies.
2020-07-20 14:39
they have more money, but their society and government are corrupt to the core yes they're a rich country now, but certainly not a good place to live in, regardless of how wealthy you are
2020-07-19 04:20
China N30NL4
The govt situation differs quite significantly between provinces/cities. I'm lucky to live in a nice place that I feel confident to compare it with some more developed European countries.
2020-07-19 04:34
where do you live if i may ask? from what I understand, even municipal governments all are CCP friendly, it's not like there's a central government - state seperation in China... the point is, whether you would like to admit it or not, the lack of basic human rights, opportunities to live a healthy and meaningful life, and a constant pressure to adhere to gov policies and simply be a cog in the machine is pretty fucking bad.
2020-07-19 04:37
China N30NL4
Wuxi, a city of Jiangsu province. The economic condition has direct effect on the political environment of any city in China. The richer area is usually granted with more freedom and opportunity because the local government is able to satisfy its budget by taxing, which leads to less corruption and higher efficiency. The human right problem is complained a lot in China as well. I could only say that we are actually as (legally) free as most Western people that I've met. The biggest drawback is on the cultural part. The censorship limits most of our choices on ways to express ourselves. The political freedom for me is not so much an issue, some events recently have warned us how things could go if every single person has a chance to engage in politics...
2020-07-19 04:51
you see, i don't doubt rich and obidient people live well in China. my problem is that there is 0 freedom of expression, as you can literally get arrested in less than a day for saying anything CCP doesn't like. developed nations don't have censorship and obviously provide freedom of expression/thought, you don't always have to agree with the 'government' or people in power to prosper and succeed. it doesn't only limit your political freedoms, but your freedom of thought, period. thus it is unsurprising that china's largest tech company is literally based on straight up intellectual property theft from larger tech companies from US, S. Korea etc. finally, to be rich in China, you need to be a tool of the state 100% of the time, meaning that you have to do whatever you're told, and as i've previously said become a cog in the machine, losing your individualism in return for 'wealth'... what is wealth when you can't freely express yourself? when you have to look behind your back anytime you're doing something the CCP deems bad? and don't even get me started on prisoner organ harvesting, Uighur concentration camps, terrible healthcare systems, no environmental regulations whatsoever, and bullying of smaller countries for territorial gains...
2020-07-19 05:29
Is different in Europe? A 12 years old say some shit to a Black footballer and got arrested, whats the difference?
2020-07-19 21:51
2020-07-20 06:40
Many expats here would heavily disagree with you
2020-07-19 13:41
2020-07-19 06:15
Malaysia Suno[t]
I used to be an idiot and though china was full of filthy rich people and they are making insane progress. Then I came across my bois serpentza and laowhy86 which exposes these are nothing but frauds and false perceptions I had of the country. Thank god for them. There are so many poverty in china that one does not see or the oppression of its minorities. The thing is they are very good at hiding their flaws like north korea. Difference is nobody buys into north korea's facade but they 100% trust china's
2020-07-19 13:30
Ukraine Dert38
2020-07-19 13:31
2020-07-20 00:31
Ukraine Dert38
nt fake italian
2020-07-23 16:03
Funny too see a guy who blame without facts
2020-07-24 01:58
China eat Snakes for Breakfost. Dogs for Lunch and Cats for dinner. Literally
2020-07-19 14:12
Finland ToxicDUD
It is one of the greatest tragedies that the west allowed Mao to win the civil war
2020-07-19 15:13
Finland jUPPE!
It's all thanks to Deng Xiaoping to transformed communist dictatorship to statecapitalist dictatorship.
2020-07-19 16:12
2020-07-20 00:45
New Zealand Eauor
welcome to the power of economic policy. economics is not to be underestimated.
2020-07-19 18:18
Ukraine vskgthree
lol and what? stop eating shit at first
2020-07-19 21:46
long live the CCP
2020-07-20 00:22
Name checks out
2020-07-20 13:14
Immagine Blame Cina for COVID19 but nobody blame europeans Which brought the viruses in Oceania and Americas
2020-07-20 00:32
Russia ToughGuy
flag checks out
2020-07-20 11:52
flag checks out 800K RUSSIA CHECK
2020-07-21 16:05
Argentina sebaxinho
They had stalin banners lol, probably below 50 IQ
2020-07-20 00:38
China has used more cement in 3 years than USA used in 100 years
2020-07-20 00:41
great ppl, crazy goverment
2020-07-20 02:10
2020-07-20 13:14
Argentina ivanpb
modern sclavism pays off
2020-07-20 06:57
excuse me ? When ccp took over china it became a good country ? The peoppe did it not the government
2020-07-20 12:05
China ShinnWong
in chinese culture/context,government is the guardian of the civilization,it's part of the people
2020-07-22 02:56
I fo not think that the government represents the chinese people atm
2020-07-22 07:28
China ShinnWong
well,people alaways thought that they known better than chinese about china
2020-07-22 09:11
Pakistan XtraticX
China superpower
2020-07-20 13:31
India mari123
fuck china, india will take over as the next superpower.
2020-07-24 02:03
india superpower by 2020 already?
2020-08-06 02:57
Brazil kal4sh
lets go china
2020-08-06 03:49
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