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Messi VS Ronaldo at their prime
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Switzerland HansZimmer 
Who's better ? imo Messi all the way
2020-07-18 10:18
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Messi by far
2020-07-18 10:18
Ronaldo obviously by watching him, messi used to be better but tbh, where is messi? have you seen messi, the guy is been gone for months
2020-07-18 14:04
prime=/=longetivity
2020-07-18 14:16
It's not so gone , he had the best stats in La Liga . He just said the club is not doing well , Ronaldo as well he had i think 8 goals from penalty this season so where is Ronaldo ? They both aged , are still insane but aged , you can see that and it s sad af
2020-07-18 16:27
ofcoarse Messi would have better stats than Ronaldo if he played there longer, Ronaldo would probably have the same if the scenarios were switched, Ronaldo has a better goal ratio still
2020-07-18 21:38
he has the highest G/A in Europe this year, and it is a bad year for him
2020-07-18 17:48
he doesnt????
2020-07-19 00:55
#379
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Turkey TheKaiser
"PRIME"
2020-07-19 04:41
ronaldo could easily body him physically, ronaldo gets better 2ith age
2020-07-19 10:47
#407
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Turkey TheKaiser
Nah, prime Messi was on another level.
2020-07-19 14:06
Messi best of all time without a doubt. Ronaldo can only scoor himself while Messi lets his whole team score. There isn't a single soccer analyst who will say Ronaldo is better overal.
2020-07-19 17:04
"messi is the ideal creation of an artist, ronaldo the ideal version of an engineer"
2020-07-19 17:29
#265
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Sweden Zolity
+1
2020-07-18 16:09
#2
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India s1mpleshwar
Messi and s1mple
2020-07-18 10:19
#380
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Turkey TheKaiser
Mess1mple
2020-07-19 04:42
Messi
2020-07-18 10:20
#266
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Sweden Zolity
+1
2020-07-18 16:09
#4
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Norway NosTheBoss
Since you didnt put in Lingard, Messi, but Lingard the midfield maestro is on another level far above them
2020-07-18 10:27
If I knew him I probably would have put him in :)
2020-07-18 10:24
#6
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Norway NosTheBoss
Here is a taste of his greatness: youtu.be/HNJYsFfz8kU
2020-07-18 10:27
Now I understand, thank you. You made my morning x))
2020-07-18 10:33
2020-07-18 10:36
this youtube channel is absolute gold
2020-07-18 14:41
#404
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India c0nsc10us
+1
2020-07-19 12:33
Imagine David Luiz, Mustafi, Jones and Lingardinho in 1 team
2020-07-18 10:35
David luiz 🤣🤣😂
2020-07-18 13:13
2020-07-18 13:18
youtube.com/watch?v=a7IMPsyQg6k nice defending by luiz
2020-07-18 14:35
fun fact: One of Brazil’s primary defenders, Dante, at the time of the WC, was playing for Bayern. In a interview, he said that Brazil would easy pass Germany because, and I quote “Knew the Germans”.
2020-07-18 14:42
xaxa thats a fun fact, thanks :)
2020-07-18 14:43
#381
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Turkey TheKaiser
I think he stayed in Bundesliga even after 7-1 lol
2020-07-19 04:43
and lingard is still 18! unbeliveble potential
2020-07-18 18:17
+1 so true
2020-07-19 21:22
If I'm playing Eibar I'm going with Messi, if it's a UCL match I'm going with Ronaldo
2020-07-18 10:29
haha :))))
2020-07-18 10:34
Yes yes, like that time he scored against penaldo in a UCL final or that time he did this m.youtube.com/watch?v=UscczWoT7yY You're definitely not new or a fanboy
2020-07-18 12:34
If I’m playing Genoa I’d go with CR7, he would have scored at least a hat trick + with all the bribed refs try all would be from penalties :)
2020-07-18 13:05
Ctrl +F: flightreacts23 82 results LMFAO
2020-07-18 19:15
What does it feel like when so called clutch GOAT spent his peak years in a league filled with Getafe and Leganes just to get owned by Messi and win it 2 times ? Oh never forget the BIG GAME PLAYER was unable to make it past Round of 16 at WC since 2006 :)
2020-07-19 00:45
i.imgur.com/V7Eu0YY.png CTRL + F flightreacts23: 84 results
2020-07-19 01:02
CTRL + C CTRL + V What does it feel like when so called clutch GOAT spent his peak years in a league filled with Getafe and Leganes just to get owned by Messi and win it 2 times ? Oh never forget the BIG GAME PLAYER was unable to make it past Round of 16 at WC since 2006 :) 0 trebles :)
2020-07-19 01:33
I hope he see this bro
2020-07-19 03:05
An expected reply from a soft beta like NotNew. Always jumping out of arguments with retarded excuses like “tHiS argUmEnt LeAds nOwHeRe aNd i dOnt WiSh to gEt rEkt hEre bc Im sOfT” Next time, soft beta, turn your brain on before replying. Just as feminine as his idol
2020-07-19 12:29
#37
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Macau j0g
+11111111111111
2020-07-18 13:07
Wait La Liga is a farmer league right ? But so called GOAT penaldo spent his peak years in it and won it how many times ? Twice ? Lmao.
2020-07-18 13:12
#68
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Macau j0g
go see a doctor, messi's little midget dick is too deep into your anus
2020-07-18 13:25
Thats the level of CR7 fanboys. At least Messi has a normal family, kids from the woman he loves not kids from someone’s you don’t know since CR7 boyfriends couldn’t give birth to kids and now you live with some mrs plastic surgery lmao
2020-07-18 13:30
#84
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Macau j0g
#68 you're really sad
2020-07-18 13:31
#68 what ? To show your lack of IQ ? Still doesn’t change why so called gOaT spent his peak years in farmers league unable to win it more than 2 times lmao.
2020-07-18 13:37
#91
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Macau j0g
GOAT won 3 premier leagues way before you started watching football. goal.com/en/news/1716/champions-league/2.. this is what your idol said back then, when GOATNALDO was the incontestable best player in the world before corrupt Blatter and Platini made dwarf his rival
2020-07-18 13:40
Won 3 PLs having top1 team in England ? lmao and only three. GOAT got treble as well? oh wait, he doesnt. WC Final ? oh wait he doesnt ? Last paragraph are jsut excuses. How does this change the fact Messi owning penaldo in h2h and in 2009 Final ? :) I guess Blatter and Platini told penaldo to chill out :)
2020-07-18 13:56
#117
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Macau j0g
2009 ??? you still have the audacity to talk about 2009 ?? after the referee literally slaughtered Chlesea in the Semi final ? and what did dwarf do in the final ?? a lucky header and probably the only header in his entire career lmfao. "wc final" what did he do in that WC ?? except scoring against nigeria and Bosnia in the group stage ?? lmfao, di maria,Higuain,Mascherano and the goalkeeper were the real carry when it mattered :))
2020-07-18 14:04
who tf cares ? I thought penaldo is clutch ? they faced each other and 5ft7 midget was scoring headers while penaldo couldnt do shit lmao/ Sums up a lot and says a lot about his legacy. Bosnia wasnt even in groups with Argentina lmao. Still Messi a beter WC player than penaldo. remember when he scored a goal against North korea. But hey north korea are WC champions in their country so penaldo fanboys can show their braindead logic with that. Again, when did CR7 carry his team in WC ? No hungaries and Wales to help them pad stats right ?
2020-07-18 14:06
#141
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Macau j0g
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_FIFA_World_Cu.. "Bosnia wasnt even in groups with Argentina lmao." and here i'm quite sure you're just an ignorant pessi worshiper nothing else lmao. pessi lion against nigeria and Bosnia, and a sheep when it mattered, he watched his teammates score and THANKFULLY they didn't score against Germany in the final otherwise he would have stolen the glory
2020-07-18 14:09
You really going to go there ? en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_FIFA_World_Cu.. Imagine getting owned by USA in soccer lmao. Americans outplaced the GOAT hahahhaha how embarassing is that. Couldnt do shit against Ghana and Americans hahhahahaha
2020-07-18 14:12
#150
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Macau j0g
"You really going to go there ?" yes because you don't know what you're talking about, just attacking ronaldo and blindly worshiping messi. "Bosnia wasnt even in groups with Argentina lmao.""Bosnia wasnt even in groups with Argentina lmao.""Bosnia wasnt even in groups with Argentina lmao.""Bosnia wasnt even in groups with Argentina lmao."
2020-07-18 14:14
2. United States 3. Portugal 2. United States 3. Portugal 2. United States 3. Portugal 2. United States 3. Portugal 2. United States 3. Portugal 2. United States 3. Portugal 2. United States 3. Portugal 2. United States 3. Portugal 2. United States 3. Portugal 2. United States 3. Portugal 2. United States 3. Portugal lmao. BIG GAME PLAYER. CARRIES HIS TEAM TO WINS.
2020-07-18 14:25
#168
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Macau j0g
"Bosnia wasnt even in groups with Argentina lmao "Bosnia wasnt even in groups with Argentina lmao "Bosnia wasnt even in groups with Argentina lmao here you showed how you're a real ignorant xD
2020-07-18 14:26
2. United States 3. Portugal 2. United States 3. Portugal 2. United States 3. Portugal 2. United States 3. Portugal 2. United States 3. Portugal 2. United States 3. Portugal 2. United States 3. Portugal 2. United States 3. Portugal 2. United States 3. Portugal 2. United States 3. Portugal 2. United States 3. Portugal Showed how delusional you are. BIG GAME PLAYER, LEAVES NO CHANCE, DELIVERS WHEN IT IS NEEDED.
2020-07-18 14:33
#177
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Macau j0g
yeah portugal 3-2 Usa what's wrong here ?
2020-07-18 14:35
And how many times did ronaldo won the biggest competition of them all? Right....
2020-07-19 00:54
#39
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Nepal sasukeee
lol
2020-07-18 13:09
#77
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Switzerland noxer*
+1
2020-07-18 13:28
#121
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Finland Faust_fSt
+1 gospel
2020-07-18 14:01
Both goat
2020-07-18 10:34
but one is better
2020-07-18 10:35
Messi is an alien so he is better
2020-07-18 10:42
messi of course
2020-07-18 10:43
Teemu Pukki
2020-07-18 10:43
ronaldo
2020-07-18 10:45
rOMEGALULnaLULdOMEGALUL
2020-07-18 12:20
took me a while to actually read this haha
2020-07-18 12:21
sportbible.com/football/rivalries-a-supe.. Not even a discussion worthy
2020-07-18 12:22
+1
2020-07-18 12:28
Lm10
2020-07-18 12:29
Messi, it's not even up for discussion. Did you ever heard of someone calling CR7 the best player ever? Because that's a regular thing for Messi.
2020-07-18 12:34
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
2020-07-18 12:38
#79
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Switzerland noxer*
Yes all the time even Abidal prefers Ronaldo
2020-07-18 13:29
Abidal is gone soon tho xD
2020-07-18 13:48
Rooney prefers Messi. So does gary neville and Rio but they dont wanna admit it lmfaoo
2020-07-18 17:50
#335
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Switzerland noxer*
Rio? Hahahah. Nice try. You really dont know what you re talking about And no, Gary much prefers Ronaldo as well
2020-07-18 22:30
can u read, retard? rio clearly favours messi and knows he is better but he doesn't wanna say it because he was teammates with ronaldo. he doesnt have the balls unlike rooney
2020-07-18 22:39
#337
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Switzerland noxer*
You must be braindead or something to think somethig like that. Rio obviously prefers Ronaldo judging by his interviews lmao. Also, even Maradona and Pele both prefer Ronaldo
2020-07-18 22:52
Pele changes his mind once a week. Anyways still like 70%+ of all the established managers , analysts, commentators , (ex)-footballers , knows messi is better. dont need "noxer*" on HLTV.org to tell me otherwise. l::
2020-07-18 23:04
#339
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Switzerland noxer*
I know missi never won an international title, chokes and only stat pads on la liga while struggling on the champions league, I dont need lord rehman to tell me otherwise
2020-07-18 23:06
I'm sorry to interrupt your little debate, but isn't olympic gold an international title?
2020-07-19 11:16
#393
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Switzerland noxer*
Well technicaly yes. But even a second division league title its more prestigious than that.
2020-07-19 12:04
But it still is an international title? So don't say he never won an international title when he did.
2020-07-19 12:09
#399
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Switzerland noxer*
Its not even relevant its like saying "oh jakalino never won an international cs title" "Actually he won a lan party when he was on vacations with his underage friends in Monaco where only the C team players competed" Cool bro
2020-07-19 12:16
Olympics=lan party
2020-07-19 12:43
Lewandovski
2020-07-18 12:36
w0xic >>> Messi = ronaldo
2020-07-18 12:39
#28
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United States Hindy
CR7 100%, messi is a choke artist in the recent years
2020-07-18 12:42
#29
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Macau j0g
+1 without iniesta,xavi,alves,neymar he's nothing just look at him with argentina ffs
2020-07-18 12:44
#31
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United States Hindy
fr he's one of the greats, when world class is around. Cristiano won the euros with 18 year old renato Sanchez, rui Patricio, Quaresma
2020-07-18 12:55
#32
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Macau j0g
true, he's one of the greats but he's not a leader and can't handle pressure
2020-07-18 12:57
EURO 16 is the biggest fluke tournament you could possibly get in sports history. And it’s in CR7 legacy. 3rd place in groups with some t2 teams, if it was old format the so called GOAT would be crying again. Scored 2 goals against Hungary tho LULW. And the funniest part... got benched after 10 minutes of Final. The biggest fluke you could get.
2020-07-18 13:10
#41
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Nepal sasukeee
got benched after 10 minutes of Final. Did you watch the game? He got injured from the nasty tackle from the french.
2020-07-18 13:11
Who cares ? Point still stands. Biggest fluke out of flukes in sports history.
2020-07-18 13:13
#47
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Nepal sasukeee
lol, he has 2 international trophies. Lol telling matches fluke , you dont even have the balls to reveal your country flag lmao
2020-07-18 13:15
L reply. Guess what it’s not Argentinian or Portuguese. Tf this makes difference tho ? Nations cup as an international trophy lmao I’m out
2020-07-18 13:17
#59
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Nepal sasukeee
it is, all top team from europe compete in it.
2020-07-18 13:20
Nope it’s not :) You can live in denial and count it as WC tho lmao
2020-07-18 13:23
#75
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Macau j0g
go to the UEFA headquarters and tell them to strip Portugal from that trophy
2020-07-18 13:27
I would go and ask why they dont count it as WC lmao
2020-07-18 13:56
#118
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Macau j0g
it's still better than shitty copa america that dwarf chokes on every year XD they literally made it annual so that he can win it but he's a choker
2020-07-18 13:59
Nope its not. They should make WC annual for a our fellow penaldo. Just a group stage player there :)
2020-07-18 14:08
#153
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Macau j0g
COPA AMERICA is a tier 3 trophy. imagine comparing EURO to copa shittymerica lmfao
2020-07-18 14:16
See, no matter the outcome they wouldnt count in the heads of braindead penaldo fanboys
2020-07-18 14:21
#163
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Macau j0g
the outcome is PESSI can't win a shitty copa america even though they made it annual for him lmao
2020-07-18 14:22
"Pessi" Can you be more cringe ? Where is it said to be made for Messi ?
2020-07-18 14:23
#167
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Macau j0g
penalty misser, dream destroyer, big games choker. stat-padder, want more ? 45 million argentinians are still crying today, too bad they don't have CR7 in their team
2020-07-18 14:25
penalty stat-padder, yeah Messi destroyed cr7 dreams and his fanboys, a better legacy, career, stats not being a prime scorer lmao. 10 '"million" portuguese are crying knowing Messi is GOAT knowing they didntmake past Round of 16 at WC since 2010.
2020-07-18 14:32
#174
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Macau j0g
he will soon retire and cry himself to bed every night knowing he's a disappointment for his nation XD NOT EVEN A COPA AMERICA LALALALLALA
2020-07-18 14:34
penaldo will soon retire and cry himself to bed every night knowing hes a disappointment fr his nation unable to make past groups in WC XD and knowing he was always an inferior player than Messi "LALALALLALA" cringe
2020-07-18 14:37
#181
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Macau j0g
LALALALALLLALALALALALA 1 euro 1 Nations league NOT EVEN A COPA AMERICA LMFAOOOO
2020-07-18 14:37
cringe Spent his peak years in farmers league unable to win it more than two times. cANT WIN TREBLE Spent his peak years getting owned by MESSI Cant make past Round of 16 in WC since 2006. LMFAOOOO
2020-07-18 14:43
#190
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Macau j0g
NOT EVEN A COPA AMERICA LMFAOOOO
2020-07-18 14:43
not even treble LMFAOOOO
2020-07-18 14:48
#197
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Macau j0g
barcelona in 120 years : 5 UCL Ronaldo in 10 years : 5 UCL
2020-07-18 14:49
Messi: 3 trebles RM in 2491048104 years: 0 trebles penaldo in his career: 0 trebles
2020-07-18 14:52
#203
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Macau j0g
treble > UCL according to pessi dick riders
2020-07-18 14:53
UCL > UCL, National championship and national cup apparently according to penaldo dickriders :)
2020-07-18 14:55
#208
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Macau j0g
5 UCL in 120 years vs 5 UCL in 10 years lmfao
2020-07-18 14:56
3 trebles in 3 years > 0 trebles having played in best clubs of England and Italy lmao
2020-07-18 15:13
#217
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Macau j0g
2011 wasn't a treble dumbass. another LIE LMFAO
2020-07-18 15:14
idgaf since mor ethan your fellow whiny princess with a feminine baby face could ever dream of.
2020-07-18 15:16
#222
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Macau j0g
"messi 3 trebles" he only has 2. AHAHAHA another lie, add them to the other lies you posted above. you're really pathetic
2020-07-18 15:18
still more than penaldo will ever have. ran away from taxes and messi to have a slight chance at trebles in match fixing italian league with refs bribed by Juve and still miserably failed at it.
2020-07-18 15:20
#226
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Macau j0g
and dwarf will have to runaway from barcelona just like he did with Argentina lmfao
2020-07-18 15:21
And ? did he run away ? every summer every soccer site posts "MeSSi LeAvEs bARca" just to keep playing in this joke of a club. Oh coming from a guy who is known to be a quitter and not loyal piece of shit mfao
2020-07-18 15:27
#236
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Macau j0g
where is the loyalty when every year he asks for a better salary or he leaves to Man city LMFAO and now he's costing his club almost 100 millions (before taxes) just so he can CHOKE and EAT A REMONTADA each year XDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
2020-07-18 15:28
Just some rumors that penaldo dickriders as facts. Loyalty is switchin gfrom top1 club to a potential top1 club to undispitued top1 lmao. And penaldo ran away from taxes just to not get owned by messi the GOAT :)
2020-07-18 15:34
#243
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Macau j0g
it's not loyalty he simply can't play outside his club. the whole world have seen how he really is when he plays with argentina XD
2020-07-18 15:36
Imagine thinking greatest player cant play outside his club. its called loyalty something your queen never knew of. "SeArCh fOr ChALLengE" AND JOINS TOP1 CLUB. The whole world saw what he is all about when he choke din WC then again and then again. plus once he got outplaced by a country that never cared about soccer lmao
2020-07-18 15:39
#176
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Czech Republic LidoOP
lol you are fking retarded 🤣
2020-07-18 14:35
oh look another low iq cr7 fanboi :)
2020-07-18 14:38
#206
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Czech Republic LidoOP
CR7 is for me a better player He has more club titles, more international titles, more goals He is a true leader, who can hype up his team as we saw on EURO, where Portugal face far tougher opponents than Argentina ever did on Copa (except Brazil) Calling EURO a fluke requires a huge brain damage a putting Messi above Ronaldo only because 1 WC final (lost) is dumb No one cares about finals, only about titles (same as Guardian, many Major finals, but what with that) And how is Nations League joke? All countries of UEFA zone played there and Portugal came out on top as they beat Netherland, Switzerland, Italy and Poland which are ones of the strongest countries in the world In terms of UCL Ronaldo is obviously better, cuz it's just his competition (most goals, 5 wins) He always makes sure his team goes through for example against Juventus or Atlético Madrid But Messi is invisible in play-offs, no saying it's all his fault but he is the best in the team, the one everybody look up to so he must make the difference, which he can't as we saw against (Liverpool, AS Roma, Juventus and Atlético Madrid year by year) in crucial matches he does not score and that is why Barcelona keep losing it I respect Messi and you should do the same with Ronaldo They are both great players and I just shared my opinion why I think Ronaldo is better Hope its clear
2020-07-18 14:55
Messi is a better player for me. Having played less games (856 vs 1000) he has more assists and 28 less goals, more club goals, assists. 91 goals in one calendar year, most Ballon D'or awards, only player in history to score 40+ club goals in 10 consecutive seasons (2009/10 - 2018/19), only player in history to score 40+ club goals in 9 consecutive seasons (2009/10 - 2017/18). Yeah we saw what a true leader penaldo is. 3 draws in groupstages, scored against Hungary, his team would been out with old format, 3rd place made playoffs, lucked out against Croatia with ZERO shots on goal, same with Poland, Wales in semis (LULW) and injured 10 minutes after the whistle. True leader. Everyone cares that since the "better player between the two" never made the finals, yet to make past round of 16 since 2006 WC. But hey more clutch right ? Nations League is a joke sorry to break it to you lad. Some friendly European tournament. Yeah it is his competition: youtube.com/watch?v=UscczWoT7yY youtube.com/watch?v=F2JavapBV1g And never forget chokes in 2010,2011,2012,2013. Yeah he disappeared in first leg against Liverpool last year. Its called recency bias, good W against Ajax btw from CR7. so clutch. I dont respect Penaldo fanboys and dislike CR7. They are both great, but Messi is better and greater :)
2020-07-18 15:12
nations cup was the definition of a bruh moment
2020-07-18 13:23
Counting it as something relevant or significant is :)
2020-07-18 13:27
#76
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Macau j0g
messi can't even win copa america lmfao Panama and equator say hi
2020-07-18 13:28
Cr7 can’t even carry his team to WC final lmfao. Equator and Panama hello. Never heard of country like Equator tho but then again CR7 fanboys :)
2020-07-18 13:33
#86
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Macau j0g
there is no Eibar and Mallorca for dwarf in Copa america, otherwise he would have won xD
2020-07-18 13:34
Never forget when CR7 spent his peak years in the same league and constantly took Ls from Messi :)
2020-07-18 13:44
#102
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Macau j0g
when dwarf was rekting Eibar,getafé GOATNALDO was busy winning champions leagues (4 in 5 years) something pessi can't do lmao
2020-07-18 13:47
Busy winning CLs since 2009 right ? oh look I take a bigger sample size and its not even good. Still zero trebles :)
2020-07-18 13:57
#88
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United States Hindy
if he was to get to the final he wouldn't choke it
2020-07-18 13:38
Nice, Euro 2004 checks out, final against Barca in 2009 checks out so heavily he went to farmer league and still didn’t win it more than twice times lmao, 2011 SF against Barca checks out :)
2020-07-18 13:43
#104
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Macau j0g
when dwarf was rekting Eibar,getafé GOATNALDO was busy winning champions leagues (4 in 5 years) something pessi can't do lmao
2020-07-18 13:48
Busy winning CLs since 2009 right ? oh look I take a bigger sample size and its not even good. Still zero trebles :)
2020-07-18 13:57
#105
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United States Hindy
he was 19 for euro 2004 and not even their star player, Barca did not deserve that final after Chelsea was robbed, la Liga isn't a farmers league since they have won 7 out of the last 10 champion league finals and Sevilla is the best Europa league team. idk about 2011 sf against Barca. at least if he choked a final he wouldn't cry about it and quit his national team, sore loser.
2020-07-18 13:48
Good excuses. They faced each other and one choked in the final the other was scoring headers being 5ft7 lmao. 2011 SF is the same big stage game and not against some Malmo team. And he couldnt deliver. Good to see you started watching soccer since 2016. Ironic since every time penaldo chokes he is crying like a little child. I guess its natural for feminine beta like him :)
2020-07-18 14:00
#193
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United States Hindy
I’m 17, so I would’ve been 8 when that game happened sorry I don’t remember what happened. But notice how you gave me evidence that Ronaldo choked from 9 years ago.
2020-07-18 14:47
sums up a lot. still waiting when penaldo would deliver in WCs tho or win a treble lmao
2020-07-18 14:49
#209
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United States Hindy
He’s already proven himself in international play, he’s going to be the highest scoring international player by the end of the year ffs, the treble is countered with the multiple la ligas, premier leagues, and serie A titles, 5 champions leagues and a lot of other trophies
2020-07-18 14:56
fluking out getting 3rd place and making playoffs thanks to a new format is not proven himself to be. He has successfully didnt deliver in big games in WC. Same with Euro actually.
2020-07-18 15:14
#229
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United States Hindy
It does not matter if he hasn’t proven himself to you, he actually won a international trophy. And it doesn’t matter if it’s a fluke because at the end of the day cr7 has a euros champion medal and Messi has fuck all. Keep crying flightreact23 that’s why you sucked dick in June and lost to brawadis who is 5’8” lmao. And let’s say cr7 didn’t prove himself in the WC, atleast he didn’t retire.
2020-07-18 15:24
at the end of the day he has a fluke tournament to his name with bunch of asterisks. And fuck all stat at WC :) Yeah he didnt retire, good on him. He just managed to make playoffs in Euro being place in 3rd place, outplaced by USA lmao
2020-07-18 15:29
#244
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United States Hindy
Usa in euros nice. stop hiding your country you from USA and be proud. At the end of the day we shouldn’t talk about flukes because then Barca didn’t deserve champions league vs Chelsea, which means Messi wouldn’t get ballon dor which sneijder or iniesta deserved, ribery deserved 2013 balon for against cr7, cr7 deserved balon dor from Modric in 2018, and vvd deserved 2019 balon dor. Flukes don’t matter championships matter
2020-07-18 15:35
yeah in euroes. you would know what tournament I talk about if you didnt start watching soccer in 2016 lmao. If he deserved it they would get it but didnt. and i thought penaldo is not afraid of anything but got owned by Messi once again. Sad his clutch skills disappear when penaldo faces Messi. Who cars, a fluke is a fluke. an asterisked championship is an asterisked championship. 3rd place in groups is not making playoffs in any year apart from 2016 and on :)
2020-07-18 15:42
#252
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United States Hindy
Just keep crying man, you are living in a denial that Cr7 is a fluke . Please shut up he’s the king of Europe
2020-07-18 15:51
king of europe lmao. Keep living in denial kiddo. Messi is just GOAT :)
2020-07-18 16:02
#351
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United States Hindy
You have 2 brain cells, 5 champions league highest goal scorer in it aswell
2020-07-18 23:43
#95
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United States Hindy
from usa 100%, bro please explain how it's a fluke, since Portugal proved themselves after beating the Netherlands 3 years later.
2020-07-18 13:43
watch what format was in 2008 and 2012. 3 draws in a weak ass group padded stats against hungary. faced wales in semis, lucked out against croatia having zero shots on goal, injured in final. Fluke for penaldo. biggest in sports history.
2020-07-18 14:15
#170
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Macau j0g
cry is free go the the UEFA and tell them to strip that trophy from him and give it to choker pessi
2020-07-18 14:29
cry is free go to La Liga and tell them they are farmers league Go to UEFA and tell them to make nations league a new WC
2020-07-18 14:34
#179
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Macau j0g
go to FIFA and tell them make Copa america be played every 6 months instead of 1 year. then MAYBE messi would win it
2020-07-18 14:37
go to FIFA and tell them WC should not be held since your idol is a choker. Then maybe penaldo will make past Round of 16 since 2006 lmao
2020-07-18 14:41
#188
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Macau j0g
Euro is already played every 4 years, unlike copa shitmerica
2020-07-18 14:43
#48
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Macau j0g
cry is free, you can't take those trophies from him ( 2016 euro and 2019 nations league) . when dwarf pessi wins 1 single trophy then you can talk, until then SHHHHHH
2020-07-18 13:15
2016 Euro - Fluke 2019 nations cup or whatever is not even a tournament lmao. L for you buddy :)
2020-07-18 13:18
#61
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Nepal sasukeee
lol, he cant win outside of barca. and it is the fact.
2020-07-18 13:21
hE cAnT WiN oUtSiDe oF bArCa Fresh take.. but how does this change the fact that Messi remains the GOAT ? :)
2020-07-18 13:26
#72
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Nepal sasukeee
search the meaning of goat lol. 😂 He is not even the best in his own county. Maradona is the best for argentina.
2020-07-18 13:27
#80
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Macau j0g
+111111 maradona D10S
2020-07-18 13:29
Search the meaning of GOAT. . Penaldo not even goat in his country, Eusebio is the best for Portugal.
2020-07-18 13:41
#99
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Macau j0g
Eusewho ??? lmfao maradona is the real Goat something messi worshipers will never accept
2020-07-18 13:45
Pele better than maradonna
2020-07-18 13:50
EuseGOAT > penaldo, the stat-padder.
2020-07-18 14:01
#122
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Nepal sasukeee
who the F is Eusewho lmao.
2020-07-18 14:01
#123
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Macau j0g
exactly
2020-07-18 14:02
a better player than penaldo lmao
2020-07-18 14:02
flair checks out 0/8
2020-07-18 14:07
flair checks out, look butthurt portuguese :)
2020-07-18 14:08
I mean I am british and Messi was better at first but dropped off to Ronaldo who won the euros
2020-07-18 21:36
XD benched haha ha Im Messi fan but imagine bench Ronaldo xD he would quit the national team
2020-07-18 13:49
exactly. he would say he would leave the club lmao. and then join another top1 team in italy and continue choking there XD
2020-07-18 14:09
your football IQ is pretty much under 0 ..
2020-07-19 01:00
+1
2020-07-18 15:22
some1 is mad af
2020-07-19 11:34
Just look at Portugal with him at WC ffs. Can’t carry when there are no fluke penalties to get through or format where the third best group team is in for the playoffs lmao
2020-07-18 13:09
he scored 3 vs Spain, wtf you on about
2020-07-18 17:38
Penalty, mistake from De Gea and free kick. Yeah good job. Should have done the same in Round of 16.
2020-07-18 17:50
why don't you talk about this last WC by Messi too?
2020-07-18 18:08
Cause there is nothing to tell? It's pretty much known, that if Messi doesn't get what he wants, he starts walking on the pitch, and then does his magic trick, and pooooooof, dissapears..
2020-07-19 01:04
who are they?
2020-07-18 12:47
messi cause argentina 😎🔥
2020-07-18 12:57
#34
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Denmark KalasYoP
91 goals in 2012.
2020-07-18 12:59
You mean fatnaldo or penaldo? fatnaldo>messi>penaldo at their prime.
2020-07-18 13:07
penaldo by a grown ass man jeezz
2020-07-19 01:49
#43
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Nepal sasukeee
I will only say messi is the best when he comes out of his comfort zone barca and prove himself in other league.
2020-07-18 13:12
Why is Messi crucified by Ronaldo fanboys by remaining in one club? Should Lampard, Gerrard, Totti, Gattuso be criticized too? Should Zlatan be praised then? Wtf is this shit logic that treats loyalty as a bad thing? And wtf is Ronaldo “taking a new challenge” by joining top 1 italian team that won the league like 7 times in the last decade and made two UCL finals? Or the Real Madrid move, where he would go on to play for one of the greatest Real’s side we have ever witnessed (of course Barça was great too, but this is not the point). Not denying Ronaldo’s greatness, but using this “prove in other league” argument is as dumb as it gets.
2020-07-18 14:58
+1
2020-07-18 15:24
#255
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Macau j0g
don't compare those legends to dwarf who renews his contract every 1.5 to 2 years now costing his team almost 100 million$$$ each year (before taxes) just so he can score against Eibar and mallorca then eat a remontada in the UCL
2020-07-18 16:01
great argument, kid.
2020-07-18 17:01
#342
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Brazil ftf123
Lampard, Gerrard, Totti, Gattuso never where on the discussion of best player of all time, the other greats played regardless of the system
2020-07-18 23:15
Yes, because Pelé played in so many teams, not to mention how many different tactics Cruyff had to adapt to! Now care to elaborate how loyalty is a bad thing? Even for other sports, look at Jordan or Kobe, ffs.
2020-07-18 23:18
#348
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Brazil ftf123
pele is overrated too, cruyff carried barca, netherlands and ajax.
2020-07-18 23:20
Ok, so no arguments? Expected tbh.
2020-07-18 23:23
#375
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France Ga5huX
If Zlatan ACTUALLY scored as many goals or even slighly less than Ronaldo and Messi in each clubs I played, I would rate Zlatan over anyone else, yeah. > Should Lampard, Gerrard, Totti, Gattuso be criticized too? They're rightfully are. No one has ever thought those players were the best of their generation.
2020-07-19 03:29
Case on point: he didn’t. And again, I’m not talking about goals, I’m talking about people using loyalty in order to praise some players and using it to diminish others.
2020-07-19 03:32
#377
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France Ga5huX
It's not about loyalty, it's about context and determining what is hardest to achieve because this is how you rate the best player of all time. It's definitely easier for Messi to play in the best condition at Barcelona around great players for all his career than for other players. I could say the same thing about Ronaldo during his 9 years at Madrid vs other top players. I'm myself a huge fan of Messi (I love Ronaldo as well) and I think he's a the best player of all time. But people need to admit that Messi would play worse in another club and that Ronaldo has the merit for proving he could succeed in England, Spain and Italy and did better than Messi in that huge aspect. It's like most people from rich families succeeding in life. Yeah, they succeed, they're unarguably the best at what they're doing. But would they have done the same thing if they were poor ? I rather rate someone who did slight less better starting with nothing with a poor background. It's the same feeling some have about Ronaldo doing "better" somehow.
2020-07-19 03:58
Wait, Messi would play worse because he plays with other greats, but Ronaldo literally played in the biggest club in england and the club that won the league like 7 times and reached 2 UCL finals(Juve) before his arrival, not to mention Real Madrid squad when he arrived. Idk wtf is this logic, I’m a fan of both myself, but using this argument of proving in other leagues is dumb as it gets.
2020-07-19 04:17
everyone forgot about lord bendtner already?
2020-07-18 13:17
kevin großkreutz but messi comes close to be fair
2020-07-18 13:18
#65
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Sweden FL4XY
who and who??
2020-07-18 13:23
#67
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Sweden raveN4s[A]
Didnt hear about Messi, KING CR7 and GOAT
2020-07-18 13:23
Messi ez
2020-07-18 13:26
#71
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United Kingdom TC10
messi is better.
2020-07-18 13:27
CR7 is great, but Messi is whole another level
2020-07-18 13:27
when you cant even win an american cup you cant be called the best. Ronaldo > LULssi any day of the week
2020-07-18 13:29
#81
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Switzerland noxer*
Both Goats but id rather have Ronaldo playing by my side
2020-07-18 13:30
Messi? OMEGALUL Farming goal vs noob teams
2020-07-18 13:30
#92
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Portugal lovessd
Messi raped Ronaldo when he was at his prime, Ronaldo cried like a lil girl Messi >>>>> anyone at his prime but it was long time ago , before 2013 this guy could 1v6 10 times per match easily Messi is in the top 5 best player of all time , cr7 not even in top 10
2020-07-18 13:46
#158
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Nepal sasukeee
you the culprit for the whole nation lol 😂
2020-07-18 14:17
#238
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Switzerland noxer*
You re clueless and cant be older than 17 years old
2020-07-18 15:30
#254
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Macau j0g
"messi raped ronaldo" wow what a nice argument, now i may believe that dwarf is not a choker and maybe he has an international trophy ?? wow messi greatest rapist ever
2020-07-18 16:00
mad cuz bad? ronaldo was bad during the whole tournament that he won so stfu lul he only played well vs Wales wowww Messi brought Argentina to a WC Final by himself plug your brain maybe i bet you haven't followed football before 2013 you were still a babykid
2020-07-18 16:06
#259
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Macau j0g
how ?? by scoring against Nigeria and Bosnia in the group stage ? XDDDDD
2020-07-18 16:05
#264
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Macau j0g
""Messi brought Argentina to a WC Final by himself"" HOW ???? all i know is that he scored in the group stage then waited for his teammates to hard carry him to the final ???????????
2020-07-18 16:09
seres assim e ser português é só ser ingrato e triste :\\ podes não gostar, mas tipo, ser hater? Isso cheira-me a um certo tipo de inveja
2020-07-18 16:23
if im trying to win against mallorca i go for messi if im trying to win cl i go for ronaldo
2020-07-18 13:44
u will need to bring modric, kroos, caesmeiro and other world class midfielders to provide for ronaldo aswell
2020-07-18 17:24
Lmfao he won with united.
2020-07-19 01:46
100 th /closed
2020-07-18 13:46
Messi S1mple
2020-07-18 13:46
lmao comparing messi to s0mple
2020-07-18 13:50
#269
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Macau j0g
both have 0 majors lmao
2020-07-18 16:13
True axaxaxxaxa
2020-07-18 17:55
#270
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Macau j0g
but i prefer s0mple. dwarf is literally a cunt
2020-07-18 16:14
#347
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Argentina tinchOO
why so mad towards messi wtf
2020-07-18 23:19
ZyWhere Are You?
2020-07-18 16:19
Clint Dempsey
2020-07-18 13:54
#201
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Qatar amega
messi
2020-07-18 14:52
If it is to win internation titles and big titles like ucl and actually make a difference not only against low tier opponents i say ronaldo
2020-07-18 15:01
didn't messi win ucl at his prime tho ?
2020-07-18 15:25
supporting mibr and being Portuguese must have given you severe brain damage, feel sorry for you bro.
2020-07-18 17:27
not showing your country flah must have some reason
2020-07-18 17:35
The one who didnt rely on HGH to become a footballer Hope this helps
2020-07-18 15:04
in the prime messi, but i prefer cr7
2020-07-18 15:23
smart comment *clap clap*
2020-07-18 16:02
Messi argentine I stoped being catholic after argentine pope
2020-07-18 16:41
messi with argentina OMEGALUL ronaldo with portugal 2 trophy :D
2020-07-18 15:27
mustafi >> van dijk then
2020-07-18 17:28
w t f r u saying :D messi and ronaldo is rivalry it's like Cruijff vs Beckenbauer mustafi and van dijk is rivalry???
2020-07-18 17:32
no ,im just saying that using team achievements is a bad indicator to use when comparing two individuals.
2020-07-18 17:39
messi and ronaldo on the same level Ballon d'or 6 vs 5 after all team achievements , especially nation achievements is important for them ronaldo is balls of steel than messi :D messi never has been clutching in important match just 1 example watching copa argentina vs Chile final :D
2020-07-18 17:48
You get team achievements when you contribute to them. Scoring 4 past eibar will only get you the second place :)
2020-07-19 01:44
CR7 obviously. He has proved that he can be the best on many leagues.
2020-07-18 15:34
2020-07-18 17:08
Messi
2020-07-18 15:38
messi cums on ronaldo every day of the year
2020-07-18 15:47
Messi by a little distance. Ronaldo in his prime was very complete
2020-07-18 16:07
#273
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Brazil xandiinho
Ronaldo but not cristiano.
2020-07-18 16:18
#280
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Italy Wakkaa
happy days when this shit is over and they both finally retire
2020-07-18 16:29
Kaka no doubt
2020-07-18 16:43
Messi but for only one reason, he stayed in the same club all the time, cr7 has moved from sporting to united, united to madrid and madrid to juventus. With such moves he had to get used to the teams, form relations, get used to each league and moving from country to country. Had ronaldo stayed on either united or madrid i dont doubt he would be in greater form than his current self and messi
2020-07-18 17:18
Messi easily, like i dont understand how people actually think Ronaldo is better ,it's just crazy.
2020-07-18 17:23
+1 never understood this either
2020-07-18 17:38
+1
2020-07-18 23:13
#294
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India p1xyy
Messi is the best , but Ronaldo is the Greatest.
2020-07-18 17:34
Messi ofc...not even debateable
2020-07-18 17:37
ik some portugal kids in hltv gonna say ronaldo but it's obviously Messi, you can tell easily by just watching both
2020-07-18 17:41
#305
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Romania decis1ve
its allways messi
2020-07-18 17:44
#321
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Germany yamiyupo
Messi is the best player ever probably most talented I'd say Ronaldinho best player Messi in terms of GOAT I think Ronaldo can not get in top 5. To me he is no even the best Ronaldo :D Brazillian one was way better.
2020-07-18 18:14
s1mple 0 major cold 2 major device 4 major s1mple>device s1mple>coldlmao
2020-07-18 18:29
noob
2020-07-18 21:34
Ronaldinho Gaucho
2020-07-18 18:32
#340
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Europe 7R1N17Y
Ronaldinho
2020-07-18 23:09
Messi in all three stages of their career. Early, prime and towards the end. He is just a different breed. If you take away the goals from Ronaldo, he is a bang average footballer.
2020-07-18 23:15
#362
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Nepal strninja
but you cant take away goals,because goals wins games ergo tourlaments ergo trophys,ronaldo made their team much better,every team ronaldo is in is much better overal,while messi sits in barca who always had sick players
2020-07-19 01:09
So Ronaldo made every team better? He went from the best team in Portugal, to the best team in England, to the best team in Spain and then to the best team in Italy? Are you joking or? A goal wins as many tournaments as an assist does. Messi has a far better goal per game ratio, and then theres the assists.. Messi is a playmaker, Ronaldo is a goalscorer - yet Messi outscores Ronaldo.
2020-07-19 01:46
#396
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Switzerland noxer*
Messi does not outscore Ronaldo. Ronaldo actually had more goals during the time he was at Madrid. You obviously cant count his Man Un and Sporting times as he was a winger back then.
2020-07-19 12:10
Messi doesn't outscore Ronaldo? Messi has played 866 official games and scored 701 goals. That is an average of 0,81 per game. Ronaldo has played 1006 official games and scored 732 goals. That is an average of 0,73 per game. "You can't count his Man United and Sporting times, he was a winger back then" Messi has played as a winger for the majority of his career. That is a very nice way to work around statistics not proving your point. Lmao.
2020-07-19 17:02
#413
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Switzerland noxer*
He doesnt lmao you dumb? This stats are from the time period Ronaldo was at Madrid as its the only way to fairly compare both (excluding the national stats obv): Ronaldo - 438 Apps, 450 goals, average: 1.03 goals/game Messi in the exact same time frame: 476 apps, 470 goals, average: 0.98 goals/game Stop manipulating the midget 0 relevant national titles stats lmfao. On the Champions league its even more blatant, missi its a well known choker and a stat padder against la league teams: Ronaldo: 101 apps, 105 goals, 28 assists Missi: 92 apps, 83 goals, 20 assists ANd lets not about national team goals as well, its very well proven missi only works on barcelona on la liga, everywhere else he struggles: National team stats excluding friendlies where missi stat pads (well ronaldo also stat pads on those, but lets forget friendlies) Ronaldo: 117 apps, 82 goals Missi: 96 apps, 36 goals Its not even fair comparing both. Ronaldo will show up when its needed, Missi is a choker who will never win a national title and will always struggle against better opposition.
2020-07-19 17:37
So you want to completely ignore the fact that Ronaldo was brought onto the team when he was 25 years old? He was around his prime (~26/27 y.o) when he joined Madrid? You are just trolling, it's very obvious. As soon as I read you saying "statpadder" and "zero relevant national titles" while you probably think that Ronaldo has two just goes to show. I am not even going to respond any further. Deciding to exclude numbers because they don't fit your agenda doesn't fit reality. You evidently don't have a clue about anything. "noxer*" out here being the accountant for WeWork "community adjusted EBITDA" with footballing stats, lmao. Have a great evening.
2020-07-19 19:06
#417
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Nepal strninja
Ronaldo deliver when needed,messi is a seflish piece of shit of a player,read the book that Pep Guardiola wrote and you will understand the situation in barcelona,there is also many players left barcelona just because of messi selfish playstile,alot of players were forbiden to shot the ball on goal if messi is around
2020-07-19 19:28
#419
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Switzerland noxer*
He is a lost cause, Messi fanboys are deluded to the next dimension
2020-07-19 19:37
#420
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Switzerland noxer*
Yes Ronaldo has two. Are you seriously comparing a friendly olympic sub 23 football title against the euro cup and the nations league? Lmfao get a clue
2020-07-19 19:39
#344
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Lithuania Edze
MESSI
2020-07-18 23:15
#350
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Argentina tinchOO
most of hltv probably can't make a pass to the feet of their teammate more than twice per match, full of stat readers xd anyone who says cr7 > messi doesn't understand football mechanics therefore can't properly judge. FACTS.
2020-07-18 23:26
#397
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Switzerland noxer*
Well I guess Pele and Maradona don't understand football mechanics then
2020-07-19 12:11
Those two change their mind every single time they get to speak. Pelé is rattled because he is no longer considered in the top2 of all time, and Maradona is literally just a mad drugaddict. Watch a football game. Putting aside statistics makes it obvious, reading statistics properly makes it even more so. Not that you'd understand. Messi out here with the 12th consecutive season of >55 goalcontributions, double the amount of number two, but community adjusted numbers probably won't tell you that.
2020-07-19 19:12
#418
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Switzerland noxer*
Yeah they will tell me he farmed against the lower teams of la liga, which is true
2020-07-19 19:36
Messi for sure
2020-07-18 23:49
Cristiano Bestest
2020-07-18 23:50
But Messi bestestest
2020-07-19 11:50
#361
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Nepal strninja
ez question,ronaldo
2020-07-19 01:07
#371
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United States raymoney
Messi. /closed
2020-07-19 01:53
Compare them when they both retire.
2020-07-19 03:23
#374
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Russia goodjob
Messi of course
2020-07-19 03:23
anyone who thinks they are shit needs to reevaluate your life
2020-07-19 05:04
talented - messi hard work - CR7 both legends but different styles :)
2020-07-19 05:25
Messi - 100 goals
2020-07-19 05:27
CR7 off Messi stat padder vs eibar and co. Doesn't do shit in Argentina or CL
2020-07-19 10:52
CR7
2020-07-19 10:53
messi
2020-07-19 11:06
#389
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Germany hjngvnhgg
Messi
2020-07-19 11:08
#398
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Switzerland noxer*
Messi was created by an artist Ronaldo was created by and engineer. I would go with Ronaldo.
2020-07-19 12:12
401st /closed
2020-07-19 12:21
#402
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Finland AleksiBOT
I am just here to laugh at the guys who are comparing tryHard like s0mple to naturally talented player like Messi.
2020-07-19 12:25
#408
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Spain thinkii
Messi is the GOAT for me, but enjoy em both youtube.com/watch?v=rq3BQAy4B5Q
2020-07-19 14:07
At prime ? Messi was 10 times better at his prime than CR7 at his Messi was able to score fucking 91 goals in a single year !
2020-07-19 19:10
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