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blameF is overrated
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Canada ZywOo_1_major_p0mple_0_major 
I've seen a lot of threads saying that blameF is one of the best IGLs in CSGO right now... and I disagree Why do I think that blameF is overrated : -baiting -individualistic playstyle -average calls 1. baiting As you can see on his HLTV profile, he has great stats, especially last 3 months, 1.28 rating is insane, but if you look closer, most of the maps he played were against bad teams (he has 37 maps in main events and 67 maps in irrelevant events -> 59 maps at different Home Sweet Home Cup (5 events) and 8 maps at the Regional Qualifier for the cs_summit 6) If you include main events he has 1.16 in 2020 and 1.18 last 3 months, which is still insane tbh BUT he has 0.57DPR last 3 months at main events, the only players that have less DPR than him are actually, only s1mple, even broky, KSCERATO, HEN1 and Jame die more than him (broky, s1mple, HEN1 and Jame are all awpers tho so basically they have less "opportunities" to die) KSCERATO has actually good roles to "bait", blameF is leading, and a lot of people think that when you lead, you ALWAYS have bad stats, if you lead well and sacrifice for your teammates, yes, if, like blameF, you bait and put yourself in good positions to frag, no. He is topfragging as IGL, dies the less, almost frags more than k0nfig and oBo (depends on the time filter and against which teams) The only IGL that topfrags except blameF is NiKo, but the difference is that NiKo actually dies more than everyone except rain, NiKo also puts himself in good positions because he baits rain in the trio basically but he is impactful anyway, still a better IGL imo, anyway If you watch compLexity's demos, he's either flanking, staying behind for easy trades, or stays behind for flashing to not take the risk of dying, and he saves a lot, or dies last, etc. 2. individualistic playstyle Like I said before, he puts himself in the best positions he can, but the problem isn't that he has this playstyle, the problem is that he has this playstyle while leading 4 other players, his calls are a lot about him taking initiatives and his mates controlling/freezing, it looks a lot like pug x) It also looks a bit like NiKo's playstyle imo 3. average calls Another time, like I said before, his calls are about him taking the duels, etc. and if you look at his calls, of course, it's not at gla1ve's level for example, no one is at gla1ve's level, but he isn't even a T2 IGL for me, T1 player for sure but not a good IGL, imo tabseN, apEX, stanislaw, nexa, NiKo, Golden, arT, Magisk (and gla1ve), karrigan, daps, Aleksib are all better than him really simple tactics, too simple to achieve anything relevant TL;DR : baiting, pugger, not a good IGL, doing really simple tactics but wants to frag even tho he is leading so he tells his mates to freeze and he gets kills (like I said, he is good at it but doing this as an IGL isn't the solution on the longterm), looks like NiKo's playstyle as IGL but baiting more Thoughts ?
2020-07-24 15:33
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Georgia Megobari
TLDR
2020-07-24 15:34
above "Thoughts ?"
2020-07-24 15:36
#53
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Bulgaria cuddleslut
still tl
2020-07-24 16:22
no
2020-07-24 16:29
way too long, kinda creepy long
2020-07-24 17:07
#2
2020-07-24 18:22
title
2020-07-24 20:58
Still too long
2020-07-24 22:14
B.F BAD PLAYING
2020-07-24 22:19
still...
2020-07-24 22:20
#2
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Poland JKG
He is super overrated Trash IGL who only focuses on his game Good fragger, but shouldn't be IGL
2020-07-24 15:36
yeah that's what I said basically But the problem is that there's no available IGL rn, especially good IGLs that could move in NA, maybe ALEX RUSH would have to change his roles a bit I guess but it'd work out imo
2020-07-24 15:37
#65
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India X1gma
No more igl's cause OG took 3 in their team😂
2020-07-24 16:33
valde isn't IGL, NBK isn't IGL valde was IGL by default, NBK was 100% in Vitality for 6 months, then ALEX led on the T side and then he was full time leading nt
2020-07-24 16:34
#197
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Germany jermens))
happy won 2 majors
2020-07-24 18:48
#199
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Poland JKG
Yeah I know LMAO
2020-07-24 18:50
Yeah like 5 years ago, game has changed a lot
2020-07-24 18:51
go back to Fortnite pls
2020-07-24 15:36
never played this shit game
2020-07-24 15:37
your brain suggest you did
2020-07-24 15:41
ptdrr dommage pour toi frérot jsuis HPI
2020-07-24 15:42
HPI?
2020-07-24 15:43
Haut potentiel intellectuel
2020-07-24 15:44
This means you're already above human inteligence or just that you have the potential to be so?
2020-07-25 15:41
Already above, it's a way to say that you're smart and u have +130 IQ but it's kinda more politically correct than anything else imo
2020-07-25 15:56
Ok. Congrats then!
2020-07-25 18:00
Thanks I guess 😂
2020-07-25 19:51
This is an international site, please write your comment in English. Comments in another language will be deleted.
2020-07-24 18:37
Sorry
2020-07-24 18:44
Lost all respect for hltv_national_guard
2020-07-24 18:23
#258
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Albania Edjon
why would you have respect for such a shit user lol
2020-07-25 16:06
#7
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Portugal NabasKi
Sure, that's how their playstyle works I guess.
2020-07-24 15:37
yeah but I don't think it'll work out that well in the longterm
2020-07-24 15:38
your opinion
2020-07-24 15:41
yeah, we'll see in the future
2020-07-24 15:42
ok, zywho
2020-07-24 15:51
ok
2020-07-24 15:57
EleGiggle DIDNT EleGiggle READ EleGiggle TOO EleGiggle LONG
2020-07-24 15:37
#3
2020-07-24 15:38
pls make tldr shorter aint tryna read a novel over here
2020-07-24 15:41
3 lines
2020-07-24 15:41
#14
2020-07-24 15:43
omfg kids are so lazy nowadays
2020-07-24 18:38
I bet I'm older than you
2020-07-24 18:40
#239
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Netherlands Titanos
Even worse then
2020-07-24 22:34
actually baited so ez
2020-07-24 22:36
#245
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Netherlands Titanos
Mens :(
2020-07-24 23:00
#10
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Denmark Notallama
The results don't agree with you buddy
2020-07-24 15:38
lost 1 map to Japaleno, lost 2-0 to BIG, lost 2-1 to c0ntact, beats Vitality 2-1 but 16-14 on 2nd map, close 2nd map against FaZe, 2-1 against NaVi even tho they rekt' em in last 2 maps, 2-1 against OG, lost 2-0 to forZe, 2-1 against HONORIS and Hard Legion, 1-2 against fnatic, average results at Home Sweet Home Cup, etc. not convincing imo
2020-07-24 15:41
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Denmark Notallama
Can you name at least a single team in the top20 that haven't had such bad results? Sure their lows has been rather bad, but their highs have been equally good. None of it supports your point, yet the good results, both on LAN and online, supports mine.
2020-07-24 15:42
what good results on LAN ? BLAST ? irrelevant, next G2, BIG, EG, Vitality, FURIA, they didn't have such bad results lately
2020-07-24 15:44
#34
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Denmark Notallama
Now you're just trying to bait, or simply use a subjective view to further your agenda instead of an actually thoughtful point. I do realize that your thread was weak bait, considering your retarded name, but calling a LAN victory against an in-form Astralis and Vitality as irrelevant is beyond braindead. The only team you mention that haven't had bad results in the past months has been BIG, but they are the ONLY example. Also they are unproven on LAN, but that's not really a factor to calculate with since they can't play on LAN in the first place.
2020-07-24 15:49
after that BLAST, they lost to teams like SMASH, Gen.G, forZe BLAST was just a fluke, their first event, their honeymoon like ALEX said, btw, they lost to Astralis, Vitality, Heretics, NiP and fnatic are RtR, also lost to the last SMASH lineup BIG might be unproven on LAN but coL aren't either, new Vitality too, maybe coL is top 1 on LAN, maybe they're top 30, like BIG, like Vitality, so it's not a good argument
2020-07-24 15:53
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Denmark Notallama
Of course it's a good argument, because you could call every single team in the top10, besides BIG, a fluke. That's the whole thing with this meta. The only difference is that coL have actually won big events among a very few others. So, it's absolutely a good argument. Your argument does not hold up in the slightest since it's so easily comparable. And as I already said, LAN is not even a thing you can compare with in the first place, but results speak for themselves. Your entire point in the first place is that blameF is "overrated", without mentioning what you are comparing it to.. yet they are absolutely proven as a team.. even considering it being a strange international lineup with unproven and rusty players. Yes, his style is unconventional, and it benefits himself, but if that all benefits the team in the end.. then whose to say that it's a bad style of being an IGL? It's just unconventional, but it works. Your point is moot.
2020-07-24 15:59
how is BIG not a fluke ? hltv.org/team/5005/complexity I yeah there are loads of trophies on their page blameF is overrated compared to what people think about him, already said that in the thread like I said earlier, it's unconventional, it may work (not that much like I showed u, lost against T5 teams like HONORIS LUL) but it won't work well for so long
2020-07-24 16:02
the problem with that is that hes not good enough to carry a team and keep them at a decent level. centering everything around s1mple and zywoo makes sense, thats not the case with blamef though.
2020-07-24 16:06
#49
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Denmark Notallama
He's definitely not the only performer though, that's the main difference here. The only one on the team that haven't had hammering performances has been RUSH, and the major reason is him being in a hardline supportive role. oBo usually plays anchor roles with k0nfig, with poizon and k0nfig trading roles a bit and being all-rounders. They are in no way being put in positions where they are getting sacrificed.. on the contrary. They have had the best performances and overall stats of their careers in coL. poizon have been a bit underwhelming in the past few months compared to his performances earlier in the year, but it's not because his roles have changed.
2020-07-24 16:11
#55
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Bulgaria cuddleslut
"1 map to Japaleno" BiG is top 1 now, everyone is losing to them, nothing special
2020-07-24 16:26
what ? i don't even understand what you understood i said that coL lost 1 map to Japaleno, why tf r u talking about big ?
2020-07-24 16:28
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Bulgaria cuddleslut
"lost 1 map to Japaleno, lost 2-0 to BIG" ?????????
2020-07-24 16:29
WHY THE FUCK DO YOU MENTION THAT THEY LOST 1 MAP TO JAPALENO IF YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT BIG FFS ARE YOU FUCKNG BRAINDEAD ???
2020-07-24 16:30
#69
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Bulgaria cuddleslut
you're officially the dumbest user i've ever seen on hltv.
2020-07-24 16:43
explain i said "they lost 1 map to Japaleno, lost 2-0 to BIG, etc." I listed the results that weren't promising, can't even 2-0 Japaleno, not winning a single map to BIG, etc. why do you say that, it's normal if they lose 1 map to Japaleno if BIG are top 1
2020-07-24 16:44
Because your fucking baiting blamef is the leader of that team and if he sets the game around himself he can he’s the best player on the team your mad your team are chokers in finals as per usual
2020-07-26 15:59
Lol they don't choke in finals wtf are you talking about And coL sucks
2020-07-26 17:42
Better than vitality apparently
2020-07-26 18:23
??? Vitality #2 Complexity #10 only tournament they can win is Home Sweet Home and the BLAST by fluke
2020-07-26 18:29
Must be a fluke your baiting /closed
2020-07-26 18:31
''beats Vitality 2-1 but 16-14 on 2nd map'' I guess life in NA affects on your brain for a bit :DD
2020-07-24 17:13
i'm french nt and they beat Vitality but it was close af on 2nd map which means that it's still not convincing, especially when u see that they got 16-2 on vertigo btw, i didn't expect much for a ruski but why all the users that write dumb comments are ruski ?
2020-07-24 17:14
CoL: >beats 2nd best team in the world >not convincing ???????????????????????????????????????? Nobody cares about how they did it. Overall result is the only thing which matters
2020-07-24 17:16
it's online, why do u care about online ? "overall result is the only thing which matters" then consider their online losses against T5 teams like HONORIS for example
2020-07-24 17:18
>it's online, why do u care about online ? This is clearly the dumbest ''argument'' I've ever seen from any person. >then consider their online losses against T5 teams like HONORIS for example Well, if we gonna judge it by your logic, ''It'S oNlInE WhY dO yOu CaRe AbOuT oNlInE??'' But I have my own answer. Almost every tier 1 team have one loss minimum in the past vs tier 3-5 teams BIG: hltv.org/matches/2341172/gambit-youngste.. NaVi: hltv.org/matches/2340917/hard-legion-vs-.. G2: hltv.org/matches/2333168/g2-vs-frenchfro.. You can search and find other examples by yourself. Losing to tier 3-4 team (mostly in online) which by your logic is irrelevant doesn't make the exact team bad.
2020-07-24 17:27
Like I said, online doesn't mean anything, even Vitality's results are relevant, nothing is relevant rn If you care about online, consider their losses too, what's your argument ? oh yeah, copy pasting what I wrote and writing in like a dummy to make me look like a fool but you don't have argument rn, you either have to not consider online results, or consider everything like I said, it's online, and BIG aren't the best teams rn imo, again, it's online for NaVi and for G2 it was more than a year ago ??? and losing against t3-t4 teams is irrelevant, then why do you care about who loses against coL online, they are a t3-t4 team on LAN,
2020-07-24 17:34
Well ur doing really smart by listing online results in #16 and saying that it's not convinsing. After u say that online is irrelevant, but before u consider their ONLINE performance :DDDDDD >copy pasting what I wrote and writing in like a dummy to make me look like a fool I don't even need it, u are perfectly doing it for me by yourself
2020-07-24 17:41
then let's consider online results if you want like I said BUT CONSIDER THEIR FUCKING LOSSES stop talking about something else idiot
2020-07-24 17:48
>BUT CONSIDER THEIR FUCKING LOSSES I do, but wins are definitely over these losses, they won like 2 or 3 of those hsh cups which only proves you wrong.
2020-07-24 17:50
wait, are you seriously saying that their home sweet home wins are relevant ? and that they mean something ?
2020-07-24 17:52
wait are you seriously saying that their close 2nd map against FaZe, 2-1 against NaVi even tho they rekt' em in last 2 maps are relevant? enough for me to take this shitty bait, you are actually brain damaged I guess not every team can beat Astralis lineup 2-0 on lan and u simply can't say that this style doesn't work
2020-07-24 17:54
I guess most teams can beat Astralis 2-0 on LAN if Astralis have a day off and that the team that beat them won by fluke because it was their honeymoon and answer me Home Sweet Home is against top 50 teams at max LMAOOO
2020-07-24 17:56
i think he should just drop igling and focus on fragging more
2020-07-24 15:38
yep
2020-07-24 15:41
He does bait u see it on nuke all the time just watch a col nuke t side he baits hard
2020-07-24 15:40
on every map, on Nuke, on Mirage T side, always connector doing free frags and staying behind, flanking, etc. even on D2, never goes first, always behind to flash and not dying
2020-07-24 15:42
Yesss art is my fav igl so wholesome always rushes
2020-07-24 15:43
he's holding W, not my fav playstyle too tho, at least he doesnt bait LUL
2020-07-24 15:45
scary you can be this unintelligent
2020-07-24 15:41
#29
2020-07-24 15:44
#32
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Egypt ExonsX
Don't think anyone would pick up the igl role rather than rush and that guy can't make good decisions for himself or they have to do a roster change which isn't needed they won a big tourney online or not time will tell
2020-07-24 15:47
that's why he is still there and IGL and not replaced by anyone else or doing something else in coL rn online results aren't that relevant imo (also counts for the teams I support)
2020-07-24 15:49
+1
2020-07-24 15:51
ty me gusta lechuga tambien
2020-07-24 15:58
Lechuga bestest food
2020-07-24 23:59
overrated for sure.. heard so many times that hes better than gla1ve xD
2020-07-24 16:01
yeah i saw that I wanted to kms
2020-07-24 16:02
Ikr the only IGL that is better then Gla1ve is Xizt
2020-07-24 18:01
no
2020-07-24 18:08
=( that wasn't very epic of you
2020-07-24 18:10
Daps*
2020-07-24 20:44
no
2020-07-24 20:47
Stan*
2020-07-24 20:48
no
2020-07-24 20:48
Fns
2020-07-24 20:51
no
2020-07-24 20:52
Ah steel
2020-07-24 21:00
Banned
2020-07-24 21:02
Someone had the audacity to say he's better than aleksib
2020-07-24 18:24
#44
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Chile esanchez47
Maybe IGL isn't his role. But the team rn doesn't have another player to do that. And as far it doesn't completely sucks, it will remain like this. Results will determine the future of this actual formula.
2020-07-24 16:03
yep
2020-07-24 16:05
#47
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Sweden god_sdy
Underrated imo. Maybe hes not your typical IGL by definition but hes extremely hardworking. Watches an insane amount of demos and communicates well to his teammates how the opposition plays. Rarely has a bad game. Thats what you want from your leader really. I'd pick blameF over guys like karrigan or Ex6tenZ anyday. You need a balance of strats and free roaming gameplay so that your stars can shine. I think the problem with karrigan or Ex6tenZ why they never work in the long run is because their style is too structured. Maybe karrigan not so much as he lead FaZe and mouz, but Ex6tenZ is the definition of a smart IGL with insanely worked out strats but severely limits his players potential which is why he never won anything major.
2020-07-24 16:06
karrigan is nowhere near too structured and too little space for his teammates. his main focus was always for his stars to shine. in tsm, in faze, in mouz.
2020-07-24 16:09
+1
2020-07-24 16:13
#243
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Netherlands Titanos
By having a structured style designed to enable his stars.
2020-07-24 22:54
apEX good igl LUL
2020-07-24 16:15
yes
2020-07-24 16:28
#52
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Mexico sneakyboy
idi nahuy cyka blet
2020-07-24 16:15
ok
2020-07-24 16:32
as an IGL, yes i agree he is overrated, but as a player he is fucking nuts; honestly if he was on astralis under gla1ves leadership he could probably be even better than he is now.
2020-07-24 16:24
+1 he would probably perform less, I still think that he isn't any better than dupreeh/Xyp/gla1ve/Magisk/device, maybe more skilled, but dupreeh, Xyp and device played together for 7 years now (at least, idk about source) so it's useless to replace one of them
2020-07-24 16:29
hes definitely not more skilled than device or magisk. i even have doubts with dupreeh (right now, previously ez4dupreeh)
2020-07-24 16:34
I think he can be better individually than dupreeh but like I said, he is not a player that'd fit in Astralis' system, especially when dupreeh, Xyp and device played together for 7 years
2020-07-24 16:35
i think astralis wouldve defo picked him up instead of esetag if he was available
2020-07-24 17:55
he isnt available, wouldnt work with Astralis' system and anyway gla1ve and Xyp will comeback so it's useless
2020-07-24 18:01
blamef is too good to be 6th man
2020-07-24 18:16
Sure but the results show it is working so why change it?
2020-07-24 16:27
it's not working that well tbh and the only good results were at the BLAST Spring Series where they beat Astralis and Vitality but it's just a BLAST, it's irrelevant and after that they get rekt by everyone else won't work in longterm tho
2020-07-24 16:31
How can you simultaneously ignore their online wins and include their online losses?
2020-07-24 17:01
where did i include their online losses ?
2020-07-24 17:05
You said they got rekt by everyone else
2020-07-24 17:06
the only LANs they played were DH Anaheim and the BLAST, after the 2 wins against Vitality and Astralis, they lost to NaVi, FURIA and Gen.G
2020-07-24 17:07
The only team that actually rekted them was the same NaVi that destroyed everyone at Katowice. At Anaheim CoL beat MIBR twice and lost a 16-13 bo1 to Gen.G who went on to win the tournament, and then lost 2-1 to Furia in the playoffs. None of those are bad losses for a new team.
2020-07-24 17:14
MIBR are shit tho and it was their honeymoon so you can also say that the wins against Vitality and Astralis were fluke (truth) because they were a new team
2020-07-24 17:15
Well if you're not willing to count online results there's no way to tell whether CoL is doing badly or not. Imo those 3 losses alone aren't enough to say BlameF's style isn't working.
2020-07-24 17:18
I didn't say that only 3 games have determined if blameF's style is working or not but, I said that they won 2 games by fluke and after that they lost against shit teams, and if you wanna include their online results, include everything, and watch his demos, always baiting, flanking for ez frags, not even for winning the round but just for not dying and saving if needed or for ez frags even tho they would probably lose the round, etc.
2020-07-24 17:21
How can you possibly know their wins at Blast were flukes when we've barely seen them play on LAN and their only losses have been to Gen.G, NaVi and Furia? I'm not saying BlameF doesn't bait cuz he absolutely does, but why does it matter when that style of play is clearly working for CoL? Happy won two Majors with the same lurk/bait style.
2020-07-24 17:31
>clearly working >not winning against shit teams and only close wins Happy baits but it was after he won the majors and anyway he baited less, he was a great IGL and he had a good co-IGL in the trio (NBK) and how can u possibly know that their wins at blast were NOT flukes ?
2020-07-24 17:33
Navi, Gen.G and Furia are shit teams? Lol ok. I can't know that but I also haven't seen anything that suggests otherwise. Astralis and Vitality weren't in a good shape anyway.
2020-07-24 17:38
NaVi isn't shit, Gen.G and FURIA yes, at least 6 months ago for FURIA yes yeah, Astralis werent at their best, neither were Vitality and Complexity played well but they were in their honeymoon like ALEX said, they never played "as good" after that
2020-07-24 17:39
blameF is one of the best igls atm
2020-07-24 16:46
flag checks out Boombl4 also one of the worst IGLs xaxaxa
2020-07-24 16:50
Boomla is worst but why also? blameF good
2020-07-24 16:53
Boombl4's calls are fucking shit, waiting until 15 seconds to exec with a shit control map, he's just running everywhere like an average lvl 10 ruski and blameF sucks
2020-07-24 16:55
#72
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United Kingdom StonkBonk
Basically just budget NiKo. Great individual player, but average IGL (which is no bad thing).
2020-07-24 16:49
yes
2020-07-24 16:50
Niko doesn't lurk on most maps tho He plays more support or entry
2020-07-24 17:07
he is in trio but he baits rain and he still flanks A LOT when he can, just watch his demos, he is often on neutral zones when his mates are most likely all 4 at the same place doing something else
2020-07-24 17:08
I mean the whole team baits rain thats what happens when ure entry fragger
2020-07-24 19:21
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Russia ToughGuy
0/8 lul
2020-07-24 16:56
everything checks out
2020-07-24 17:05
#92
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Russia ToughGuy
everything checks out
2020-07-24 17:10
ToughGuy -> probably a frustrated kid getting bullied at school Russian -> dumbass running everywhere in faceit (probably lvl 5) NaVi fan -> dumbass jerking off on s1mple's highlights after baiting his whole team for 2 exit frags
2020-07-24 17:11
#94
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Russia ToughGuy
u wrote all of this just for me? how shit is your life then LULW
2020-07-24 17:13
>all of this >it literally took 20 seconds for me to write this you wrote as much as me for me LUL
2020-07-24 17:13
#98
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Russia ToughGuy
are u mad baguette ?
2020-07-24 17:14
why would i be mad ?
2020-07-24 17:22
Thanks for a good post. You are one of the smartest hltv user for sure! and i agree blamef might be a bit overrated!
2020-07-24 16:58
ty
2020-07-24 17:05
he has more cm in biceps than you have IQ points
2020-07-24 17:07
more than 140cm ? wtf is this
2020-07-24 17:07
#268
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Denmark Notallama
He said IQ, not your height.
2020-07-26 18:31
#89
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India X1gma
Definately
2020-07-24 17:08
yep
2020-07-24 17:08
if i talk shit he'll snap me in half blamef is not overrated
2020-07-24 17:14
nt
2020-07-24 17:21
blamef plays main role in the team but why is this a problem? they oftenly split 1+4 (or 1+1+3) for t and blamef plays solo for the first 10-20 secs of the round. i don't think it's bad cos u can't put another player at such responsible spot - obo is too young and not that confidient, poizon is awp, rush isn't a fragger, k0nfig is good but not like blamef. also blamef doesn't lurk that often, sometimes his team rotates back to him and he goes 1st, sometimes he tries to attarct attention at the other side of the map while other 4 guys just hold and wait for call. talking about your points: 1) baiting - as i said before, he plays lurking role when needed but the key is "when needed". it's not needed for all 15 t rounds, not even needed for a single round sometimes. ppl call him a baiter just for his stats i guess 2) individualistic playstyle - you can call it that way but why is it a problem? a pro counter strike team usually have 4 soldiers, 1 igl, 1 coach and few analysts and they choose the most comfortable way for them to get frags. why not since it works? (they won a t1 trophy therefore it works) 3) average calls - ok but why simple calls are bad? not making mistakes, good comms, teamplay is a key to win. if it ain't broke don't fix it
2020-07-24 17:52
>doesnt lurk that often >flanks 1 round out of 2 and the other round he baits and stays behind he isnt extremity, he's in the trio, he shouldnt be lurking that much I agree, it's not needed on the 15 rounds but he does it too much, even if it's not needed, actually I think that he doesnt trust his mates so he wants to do everything but he wont achieve shit with this mentality I call him a baiter because he is actually baiting, like s1mple, ZywOo has better stats but he isnt baiting, device isn't baiting but EliGE is baiting more and has worse stats, doesnt mean shit they didnt win any trophy ? and the igl is most of time a soldier because he has to sacrifice, most of times, for his mates and u have most likely 2/3 soldiers his calls are bad because the calls themselves dont work or are bad, he wants to do everything for his team to make it work
2020-07-24 18:00
i watched few demos and i haven't seen so much baiting from him. maybe you talk about some games i didn't watch properly but i don't actually care cos whole team decides how to utilize players. you can't deny that blamef is the most hard-working player of the team and if team can't get any frags - blamef should get them all >he doesnt trust his mates so he wants to do everything but he wont achieve shit with this mentality we can't know everything from outside but it doesn't make sense for me, during both heroic & col times he's been a player who tries to light up his teammates on lans (he's never been afraid to look foolish just to keep good atmosphere going), also he often plays with worse weaponry. it's more like big amount of work from him than unnecesarry individualism
2020-07-24 18:17
idk if he's the most hard working player of the team, it's not because u work a lot that u necessarily perform, look at Aerial for example, when they kicked Aleksib he said that he had like 150 hours past 2 weeks, he's garbage, ZywOo doesn't practice a lot and he's the best player in the world rn his team can get frags but he doesnt want them to actually I agree that we can't know but when u see IGLs like gla1ve or apEX that do everything for their players, and blameF that just wants them to freeze while he is killing someone every single round or him baiting and making himself in a good clutch situation instead of oBo or k0nfig, it's pretty hilarious btw where do you see that he plays with worse weapons ?
2020-07-24 18:20
i've seen him taking the only mac-10 few times while 4 guys had rifles. but balancing firepower is normal. it's not a heroic thing but it shows that he's not such egomaniac how u describe also he can't just press z+4 and leave his teammates on the spawn. if they still play this way, this model is ok for them
2020-07-24 18:37
LUL it happened only one time I guess 71.88 blameF 61.41 k0nfig 63.82 oBo 62.42 RUSH These are the pourcentages of the kills of the players with M4 and AK, blameF has an ego problem, he wants to better weapons for himself
2020-07-24 18:50
they could've kicked him long ago if he was a wrong person (or blamef could've kicked them all) just like mad lions becnhed their star bubzkji. relationship between col players are good it seems
2020-07-24 18:39
We don't know why MAD Lions kicked Bubzkji and I didn't say that blameF had to be kicked
2020-07-24 18:51
Yea but he is also playing for a team that (on paper) is absolute garbage. Complexity has been dogshit and nonamers since like 2013-14 or something like that when they sold their players to cloud9. They instantly got better when blameF joined and I think that's the impressive thing about him and why people consider him a good igl. Complexity have done really well considering the shit-players they got.
2020-07-24 17:20
They have good players rn, blameF not included, what are you talking about ?
2020-07-24 17:22
Could not disagree more. These players are absolute shit.
2020-07-24 17:22
oBo shit ? poizon shit ? k0nfig shit ? RUSH shit ? (actually yes a bit but still)
2020-07-24 17:24
Yes, absolutely. There is a reason they're on Complexity and not in a better team.
2020-07-24 17:25
ok so every played that is not on a T1 team is shit ?
2020-07-24 17:33
I never said that.
2020-07-24 17:34
then why are they shit players for u ?
2020-07-24 17:37
Omfg dude, what kind of question is this? Why is water wet?
2020-07-24 17:39
it's not a complicated question tho
2020-07-24 17:40
Bro, lets just agree that we disagree, how about that?
2020-07-24 17:40
if you want but is there anything that makes u think that they're bad ?
2020-07-24 17:48
before I read, could you tell me what's your rank in mm and your faceit level?
2020-07-24 17:25
lvl 10
2020-07-24 17:33
who cars? analysts shouldn't be good individuals lol. new mouz analyst is gn2. technically like 50% of mm players are better than him
2020-07-24 17:57
more like 90% and I'm lvl 10
2020-07-24 18:09
actually 50% of mm players are above gn2 csgo-stats.com/ranks
2020-07-24 18:20
only 50% ???? i wasnt serious about the 90% but really ? 50% ?!
2020-07-24 18:21
if this site doesn't lie than yes
2020-07-24 18:28
Lol
2020-07-24 18:43
#115
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Russia Ypp1
Well, I didn`t watch a lot of Complexity games so it`s hard to agree or disagree, I will look at him on the next tournament for Complexity, will see.
2020-07-24 17:30
He is a fine IGL imo. And still young too had a lot of potential. One thing I do know for sure, apex isn't a good IGL at all. Not even close to a decent IGL. Honestly, there's 0 good IGL from french scene anymore. Maybe kio? shox? Lul. But definitely not apex.
2020-07-24 17:41
kio and shox ??? apEX is by far the best IGL in french scene rn, he's probably top 10 IGL rn just look at Vitality's demos, it's actually good
2020-07-24 17:49
I do agree that apEX is a better IGL then BlameF, but he honestly isn't that good. Overall he has pretty bare-bone strats but it looks good because of the decent supports on the team as well as having one of the best fraggers in the scene.
2020-07-24 17:58
apEX is actually leading better than ALEX rn, imo ALEX was really good but apEX understands how to use ZywOo and apEX in the good way, same as RpK and misutaaa even tho misutaaa has to learn a lot rn, but apEX is using shox way better than ALEX, so, in Vitality, with these players, I'd pick apEX over ALEX just because of the roles, ALEX has RpK roles basically, which are the same (in T side at least) as shox, basically, if one extremity is IGL, he can't really make the other one comfortable, that's why AMANEK, ISSAA or sergej dont perform that much
2020-07-24 18:04
I think it is actually rather hard to truly rate apEX mostly because of how hard it is to go wrong with the players he has at his disposal, he can run silver strats and it'll probably work against a good chunk of teams. Through his entire career he has had pretty good teams, and now he has arguably the best one yet. I also do think ALEX is overrated, but ALEX is a decent fragger, apEX... not so much. He does seem to be using a good amount of his players potential, especially Zywoo. I don't like it when people consider him a top 10 IGL of all time though, because as far as my knowledge goes he isn't.
2020-07-24 18:10
apEX is a really skilled player but he isn't in the best positions like b4 and Vitality's gameplan isn't "silver strats" it's actually good didn't say top 10 of all time, I said top 10 rn
2020-07-24 18:13
Even top 10 right now is a bit of a stretch, but I guess most modern IGLs are pretty fucking trash. Also ya apEX is one of the IGLs that actually care about their team and doesn't bait
2020-07-24 18:15
who is better than him rn ?
2020-07-24 18:16
Golden, arT, Karrigan, daps, falleN, AZR (sometimes), AcilioN, and MSL (only in top 30)
2020-07-24 18:20
no, no, maybe but he is relying too much on his extremities, no, no, no, no, no
2020-07-24 18:21
damn gg
2020-07-24 18:22
and anyway, if I include gla1ve it's only 9 and it'd make him top 10 anyway
2020-07-24 18:22
"Only including top 30"
2020-07-24 18:22
so who, outside top 30, is better than him ?
2020-07-24 18:23
Well its quite obvious, ALPHA MALE CHAD GOD LEGEND XIZT
2020-07-24 18:23
8/8
2020-07-24 18:43
Aagh igl fragging = bad igl. He makes good flanks with his IQ and his players around him are solid. I wouldnt want to bait for rush just saying
2020-07-24 17:47
no, there are good IGLs that can frag, look at gla1ve, he's a beast, but he isn't making himself perform like blameF, because he is a good player I don't want blameF to bait for RUSH or anyone else, but just play like every other players and just go to the therapist if u have ego problems if u need to perform while being IGL instead of doing sacrifices for ur team and lifting 100kg
2020-07-24 17:51
i don't really get your point dude, like you wanna good player to play worse or smth?
2020-07-24 18:00
what ? no, i want him to perform worse and make place for his mates, worse stats don't mean playing worse, for example, I'd rather take players like HUNDEN instead of AcilioN, it's extreme but u got me
2020-07-24 18:06
+1
2020-07-24 17:59
+1 Even "bad" IGLs like MSL, kRYSTAL etc are pretty selfless, they all understand they aren't fraggers so they either support or entry, usually leading to trash stats. They buy their fraggers guns and are usually the guys buying the utility on the pistol. BlameF does none of these things
2020-07-24 17:57
kRYSTAL does the dirty job in the trio, Maden either entries or stays behind to trade Stew goes first everytime apEX flashes a lot and goes first a lot too HUNDEN gets raped for his team Golden dies everytime for his mates etc.
2020-07-24 18:07
+1 And its been like that since forever, you have Xizt, Seang@res, Zeus, karrigan, pronax, Ex6tenz, TaZ, HUNDEN etc. They sacrifice their stats for the team, and took a shit ton of criticism. Guys like BlameF stat farm at the expense of the team and are praised
2020-07-24 18:14
+1
2020-07-24 18:15
why would he do it if he has RUSH in team?
2020-07-24 18:09
because his mates can't perform if he steals their kills or put them in front of him to not die instead of them
2020-07-24 18:10
I wasn't talking to you, but still >They buy their fraggers guns and are usually the guys buying the utility on the pistol. Why would he do that if RUSH does it already? Also, rush is clearly worse fragger than blameF (stats speaks for itself and I also watched their games where rush had like 9 kills vs vitality on mirage even with OT)
2020-07-24 18:15
didn't say he had to, but still, stop baiting and go first sometimes and just die, stop statpadding for ur own good
2020-07-24 18:15
I mean they wouldn't do that if it wouldn't work. I am pretty sure when he'll have a bad game he's gonna do it.
2020-07-24 18:17
we'll see when they'll fall off the cliff
2020-07-24 18:22
Exactly what happens when a retard studies stats without watching more than 2 maps of the team and makes an assumption
2020-07-24 18:01
did u actually read the whole thread ? watch their demos ffs
2020-07-24 18:08
-1 BlameF puts in so many hours grinding cs, and if he wasn't IGL he would be a star fragger and no one would bat an eye. IMO he deserves to bait when k0nfig isn't popping off because honestly CoL sometimes needs someone to step up.
2020-07-24 18:04
it's not because u grind cs that u arent overrated
2020-07-24 18:08
If I remember correctly the loss to Japaleno was during the cs summit qualifiers, which took place the day after CoL won Blast. They probably celebrated too much and all had hangovers, so let’s cut them some slack.
2020-07-24 18:31
Then Vitality won BLAST because they played too much in 1 day
2020-07-24 18:52
stupid excuse. major qualifier, shouldve thought of it.
2020-07-24 18:52
no
2020-07-24 18:39
hes igl and also their best player /closed
2020-07-24 18:49
True but he isn't a good IGL
2020-07-24 18:52
yes thats true he isnt a good igl but he does this job because no one else can do it in the team . he maybe wont be a good igl but he is a great leader as k0nfig said in last interview and everyone listen to him,his english is the best on the team aswell
2020-07-24 18:59
how can u speak better english than native english speakers ? also maybe kick someone else and take a good IGL if u wanna be the best team and coL are rich af
2020-07-24 19:01
k0nfig said obo english is terrible
2020-07-24 19:03
how is this possible ? and rush is there too
2020-07-24 19:03
* sorry i wanted to mean k0nfig said obo comms are terrible not his english .
2020-07-24 19:04
ok and ? his english =/= his comms LUL but anyway oBo is young and never rly played for a good team before, blameF is 23
2020-07-24 19:07
blamef god
2020-07-24 19:08
no
2020-07-24 19:09
Delusional, he makes a team with oBo and RUSH seem decent
2020-07-24 18:50
oBo is decent, RUSH would perform more if blameF wasn't such a shit IGL
2020-07-24 18:52
Your arguments are straight up retarded: You claim his calls are bad by saying they're not on gla1ves level ????????????? At least come up with some examples, like what are you expecting people to respond to that? If you want an actual discussion you kinda have to provide more than this dogshit rant you just made He has more clutches than the rest of his team, and same amount of entry frags as poizon while being the best player on the team to flash for his team mates: hltv.org/stats/lineup/players/flashes?li.. If you claim he baits so much then providing a clip or two wouldn't be that hard would it?
2020-07-24 19:02
just watch 1 demo, u'll see and when i say that his calls are shit, it's too repetitive, not well executed and opening kills don't matter that much if someone is baiting or not, look at s1mple, what matters is the opening deaths per round, and he has the less and it's easy to have enemies flashed if u bait and stay behind, it's the only thing u have to care about
2020-07-24 19:09
i watched 1 demo and i didn't see, now what? if you can't provide anything better than this you're just wasting peoples time. Repetitive you say, give an example then? not well executed, any examples??? He clutches far more than any1 else on the team and flashes more for his team mates. If you flash for your team mates to get them the kills, you are literally doing the opposite of baiting lmfao. He has higher succes rates in opening duels than anyone else on the team, so ofc he's gonna have less opening deaths because he actually win his duels lol
2020-07-24 19:24
just watch complexity vs og on mirage for example, last one i watched, on t side, at blast spring final he clutches because he baits he flashes because he stays behind he doesnt die much in opening duels because he baits
2020-07-24 20:01
he tluches because he baits? uhm he have several clutches starting with him straight up having to rotate to the other site because obo and rush died so early, explain how that scenario has anything to do with baiting? He use his utility so his team mates can win their fights, you know who else does this? Other IGL's He always pushes mirage mid as CT alone and gets away with at least 1 frag, how would you ever consider having a high win% in opening duels baiting lol
2020-07-24 20:05
he's baiting in T side, u cant rly bait in CT
2020-07-24 20:27
I played against blame in a pug and can confirm he is insane and not baiting, he lead his bad team to victory. Wish i had igl like him in my team.
2020-07-24 20:55
Obviously he isn't baiting in pug he is against you he won't get killed rofl
2020-07-25 09:33
Wtf mens no true he died many times because i did the shootink!!!
2020-07-25 15:25
you couldnt even kill kRYSTAL
2020-07-25 15:25
Mens(((((
2020-08-02 08:20
i hope he can grow as an IGL, but i fully expect him to win a major someday
2020-07-24 22:19
#238
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Sweden Trkmag
+1
2020-07-24 22:23
stanislav and karrigan better igls than him? made me laugh a little
2020-07-24 22:40
+1 How you can be igl with 0.9 rating? Who would even listen to you lmao
2020-07-24 22:51
#244
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Netherlands Titanos
Dont agree in general, but this honeymoon shit you talking about is nonsense. Teams have no honeymoon wins or something like that, only some surprising runs, like ENCE, Avangar and Gambit. CoL doesn't count in here, they grinded HARD.
2020-07-24 23:00
No, they had a honeymoon period like ALEX said, they didn't grind hard it was their first LAN, after that they did shit at DH Anaheim LUL Yeah makes no sense right
2020-07-25 09:33
#250
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Netherlands Titanos
They played a TON of cups and maps, just check their stats. Blast wasn't their honeymoon victory.
2020-07-25 14:31
what cups ? are you talking about Home Sweet Home cups ?
2020-07-25 14:32
#261
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Netherlands Titanos
Yes, and although lower tier enemies, they grinded the fuck outta them all. 186 matches in 3 months?
2020-07-26 15:36
Against tier 10
2020-07-26 17:41
#270
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Netherlands Titanos
doesnt matter, its still practice of chemistry and teamwork
2020-07-26 21:52
doesnt matter ? then Grim is top 1 LUL
2020-07-26 22:11
#274
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Netherlands Titanos
This is not about their ranking. I haven't said a word on how their matches were fair or important, but that does not take away they have worked hard and played a lot to get to this peak. It is not up to you to call that a fluke, lucky win or a honeymoon. BlameF, although not the greatest IGLs, may have his own system or does more outside of the server; you wouldn't know. No need to hate on him when he obviously is a hundred times better than you.
2020-07-26 23:59
Hater
2020-07-24 23:05
I disagree on the baiting point but I think blameF is a little overrated, yes. Can't take anything away from his skill, however. Thanks for the read. :) Have a good day.
2020-07-25 15:28
blameF is amazing u just jealous of him, let him go please
2020-07-25 15:29
his idol is NiKo and that's it
2020-07-26 18:32
BlameF more like BadF gottem
2020-07-26 22:17
Still best danish Igl but HUNDENLORDEN and Glaive
2020-07-26 22:42
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2.83
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