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From pro to washed up the fastest?
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Norway SunsetAtMidnightAndNightAtNoon 
Tell us, who made the fastest transition from pro to washed up? I'm curious to know who you guys will mention.
2020-08-01 21:25
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#1
cam | 
United States girls
scream
2020-08-01 21:25
+1, but there are prolly other, less known ones.
2020-08-01 21:28
entire Finnish and Brazilian scenes, LUL
2020-08-03 09:08
Dont think anyone from either scene washed up quicker than scream
2020-08-03 10:49
of course not, but these did it in pretty quick fashin too
2020-08-03 11:03
I dont think literally anyone has washed up from the Finnish scene
2020-08-03 11:55
suNny?
2020-08-03 12:02
Forgot about him already. But yeah other than him
2020-08-03 12:38
Aleksib? xd
2020-08-03 13:39
Sunny looked good with jampi in the team though
2020-08-03 12:48
It was only few matches/situations I guess. Let's see how good that emerges to LAN, because so far ENCE is still crap and never improved since removal of Aleksi
2020-08-03 13:40
#16
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Serbia TheSerb
Scream didint get washed they nerfed tapping wich was his playstyle and he couldnt addapt and his carrer went from a top 10 player to a average player
2020-08-01 21:31
Can't adapt = washed up.
2020-08-02 17:56
so if the awp got nerfed so hard it was unusable would all the awpers suddenly become washed up except for a couple that can rifle well enough to not get kicked?
2020-08-02 19:58
Can't adapt = useless.
2020-08-02 21:38
#335
fnx | 
Brazil Moglao
Stupid thinking lmao
2020-08-03 10:19
he is being a little harsh but with a game that is changing so fucking much as far as metas go, adaptation is one of the best qualities a player can have
2020-08-03 10:21
? top 10 in both 2013 and 2016
2020-08-01 21:42
#38
cam | 
United States girls
? so what
2020-08-01 21:45
oh, i c the title, i thought it meant like shortest lived pro to washed up, not the transition from pro to washed see, i was thinking bc scream was a solid pro for 3-4 years, but yeah he was washed up after 2016
2020-08-01 21:46
#73
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Brazil KerimZ
scream never lived up to the hype that the community made about him.
2020-08-01 22:18
still was a top 10 player twice
2020-08-02 01:39
Yeah problem with scream was propably the change of pace and playstyle in cs....if we would still play very, lets say puggy, scream could still be a top 20-50 player now but his tapping style just isnt good anymore with all the utility usage...
2020-08-03 12:52
-1
2020-08-04 11:33
Jugi
2020-08-01 21:26
was he ever actually good though
2020-08-01 21:27
heroic, but he played vs lesser teams more often so I could agree, he was never really that great
2020-08-01 21:33
did you ever watch him in heroic?
2020-08-02 07:33
He was a prodigy....
2020-08-03 12:53
#3
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Brazil IsFree
SK to mibr
2020-08-01 21:26
Sk=carried by cold and fallen Cold gone-Mibr washed up a little Fallen washed up-Mibr washed up completely Gg they had solid era tho
2020-08-01 22:01
#75
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Brazil IsFree
Shame they wanted to ruin it by losing to tier 3 NA and acusing teenagers of cheating
2020-08-01 22:22
#155
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United States xxxhoshi
replace "cold gone" with "stew and tarik gone"
2020-08-02 11:20
Stew and tarik did not participate sk era.Mibr was not this shit without cold.They were winning t2s easily and t1 with difficult.But now,ughh
2020-08-02 17:13
But it is true that mibr with tarik and stew was top5, even though they didn't win any tournments... nowadays mibr being top10 is a distant dream
2020-08-02 18:58
Full Br lineup - top1 MIBR with tarik and stew - top 5
2020-08-02 20:24
Hahhahahahahhahahahahah "era" Hahahahhahahahahahahahahhahahah
2020-08-02 20:03
+1 cold carrying with large amounts of low impact kills.
2020-08-02 20:36
#238
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Hungary subzera
lol this is the only event mibr has won in their 25 months with the org lol and it was an event they shouldve won and wouldve been ridiculed if they didnt hltv.org/events/3603/zotac-cup-masters-2.. hella washed up team
2020-08-02 19:43
To be fair they really should of won flashpoint as well
2020-08-03 08:01
#328
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Hungary subzera
they threw a 12-1 lead and you think they shouldve won?
2020-08-03 08:44
imo the entirety of flashpoint (at the time) seemed like it was made just so MIBR could actually win something
2020-08-03 09:27
#337
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Hungary subzera
And they couldn't even win it lol
2020-08-03 10:23
Exactly!
2020-08-03 14:31
taco oh wait, he's always been shit
2020-08-01 21:26
#17
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Netherlands eclipseeee
I see you don't understand how much influence he has on a team, do you think it's a coincidence that liquid was got good when he joined? he is willing to sacrifice and does his job good he is not washed up he is a support player and damned good at it
2020-08-01 21:31
yes good support player just throws nades for teammates. even a supreme can frag better than him. only thing keeping him in the team is his friendship with fallen and fer. no wonder liquid won their first match against astralis after taco got kicked
2020-08-01 21:36
#78
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Netherlands eclipseeee
You don't understand it then okay, Taco does the same he did 3 years ago when he helped make cold get #1 on hltv by them 2 being able to work together so well and cold playing off taco really well, he also plays shit spots on every map and does pretty well at them, he has great utility usage because he knows when and where to use it a supreme wouldn't only the best at that would do that
2020-08-01 22:27
you're worse than the flat earth society with your 'good support player' myth liquid got top4 with steel and they continued to improve despite taco's addition it's probably a coincidence that they only became a serious contender after replacing taco with stewie2k
2020-08-01 21:36
#76
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Argentina Joedash
Support role exists tho. But taco is not even a good support, he was useful as bait but now he can't even bait xd.
2020-08-01 22:25
+1
2020-08-01 23:36
+1 taco was just a really bad player put in a support role coldzera, fer and fallen were good enough to make up for his liabilities in 2016/17 but they obviously couldn't do it anymore in 2018
2020-08-02 22:20
New a recent video of rivalry may be cold mentioned that best player he ever played with is taco. Those fans who says he is bad have no understanding of pro level csgo. I think he meant u ppl
2020-08-02 23:10
get right says the same thing about fifflaren, was he a great support player as well? being praised by colleagues doesn't make you inarguably good
2020-08-03 00:57
#344
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Argentina Joedash
The best player he ever played with doesnt necessarily mean that he is: the best support player or a good player whatsoever, nor that he is a good player in terms of skill/game-sense. TACO is a pretty cool person, thats all, it doesnt mean he is a good player at all yet he was cool.
2020-08-03 11:46
Why do u say that. DidI you even watch the interview. He didnt say best teammate he didnt say best friend. He said best player, and he briefly explained why. How can you come to that conclusion when he explained why he is the best.
2020-08-03 22:35
#358
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Argentina Joedash
Best player he ever played with doesnt mean Best player in terms of skill but in terms of his opinion. TACO has been pretty useless so far, and even IF he had done something for the team, it wasnt enough since SK/MIBR keeps struggling on LAN. TACO is a support player, but is no excuse for his bad aim or how many times he dies without doing anything. The only thing TACO was useful for, was baiting coldzera, and now that cold is in faze clan, TACO has no use unless he actually pretends to be a proper support player.
2020-08-03 23:32
#359
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Argentina Joedash
2020-08-03 23:33
Liquid were a serious contender with taco as well.They could literally beat anyone except Astralis
2020-08-02 13:08
well, if you look like a top team until astralis show up and absolutely spank you... then you are not a top team.
2020-08-02 22:25
2016 taco not bad at all, esp at the majors, 2018 taco propelled liquid
2020-08-01 21:43
He was actually a good support player. He didnt have good ratings, but he would always create space for fallen/cold/fer trio to shine by playing bitch roles
2020-08-02 20:25
We can’t know for certain but sk was utter shit after he left and stewie replaced him I think taco is really good at calming the team down and communicating
2020-08-02 20:48
I agree. There is also the fact that they switched from Brazilian to English after Stew joined, that also could be a factor why their team felt down
2020-08-02 20:54
'sk got shit after taco left' is an another myth spread by ignorant people taco's last tournament with SK was WESG 2017 finals hltv.org/matches/2320579/sk-vs-russia-we.. they lost to a mixed Russia team with hooch standing in for flamie and then big clan who didn't even have a lineup at that point hltv.org/matches/2320587/sk-vs-big-wesg-.. It wasn't 'sk kicked taco and then became bad' it was 'sk became bad and kicked taco trying to rescue the situation' stop spreading lies please
2020-08-02 22:23
But did it help that he left the team? No and they all realized how much they needed taco after they kicked him. And they have gone on record saying that after the fact so stop spreading lies that they didn’t regret the decision to kick him and realized how important he was to the team
2020-08-02 22:34
kjaerbye
2020-08-01 21:26
+1
2020-08-02 06:11
LUL +1
2020-08-02 12:28
+1
2020-08-02 18:24
kazakh AdreN
2020-08-01 21:27
Stfu
2020-08-01 22:00
its true though, from top 5 rifler to below average within a year
2020-08-01 22:01
Not even year just after major.Avangar was the best fluke ever
2020-08-01 22:02
i mean in gambit
2020-08-01 22:04
Oh ok
2020-08-01 22:04
:C just getting old
2020-08-02 07:24
So is f0rest.
2020-08-02 18:50
f0rest and rpk are exceptions. Tell me other +30 years old performing great in tier 1
2020-08-02 18:53
You can believe that they are exceptions. I don't. You can also believe priorities outside the game are changing for many of the ageing players. Then there are some who deteriorate faster genetically, but in the end its only speculation. By living healthy and continuing to keep up motivation (not burning out like some of the astralis players) there are no hard facts saying ppl in their 30ies cant compete on highest level. If it would be 40+, sure we could agree that not many are able to keep up. I'd argue that players reaching 30, its more due to priorities changing (family, future etc) that their stats are falling down.
2020-08-02 19:03
#380
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United States Festive_
youtube.com/watch?v=4xcZLTumbEM\ it's all about burnout and changing priorities. no difference biologically like reaction speed or eyesight
2020-08-04 13:01
+1
2020-08-04 13:07
Adren was and still is very good, he is not a fragger but does his job really well, even on Faze he was performing if I'm not wrong majority of the time his kills were most impactful and he was on positive ratings
2020-08-02 20:47
Hobbit declined a lot as well sadly
2020-08-03 12:44
Hobbit had a worse drop, Adren's performance was clear for me.. with Zeus he was a top tier rifler, without him.. nope.
2020-08-04 11:36
#8
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Brazil jmx
scream
2020-08-01 21:27
seized went downhill quickly
2020-08-01 21:28
+1
2020-08-02 07:24
true
2020-08-02 18:50
he was never good lul
2020-08-04 12:07
but he went from navi to random ruski mix real quick lol
2020-08-04 19:19
cuz that's his value
2020-08-04 19:34
#10
PALM1 | 
Sweden AvoyY
JKEAM 100%
2020-08-01 21:28
What?????
2020-08-01 23:19
#139
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United Kingdom Biiddy
0 knowledge clearly
2020-08-02 10:38
Yea he kind of went from washed up to solid player in Renegades and now 100T
2020-08-02 11:26
Forgot his time in kinguin?
2020-08-02 12:26
Nope, he went from good in kinguin to washed in faze to good in au team.
2020-08-02 17:30
there are no good players in au
2020-08-02 19:51
You are baiting right? jks...
2020-08-02 20:04
who?
2020-08-02 21:09
top 20 player last year, and will be again this year
2020-08-02 21:14
More like fastest full 360 pro -> washed up -> pro
2020-08-02 20:05
coldzera
2020-08-01 21:29
2 years in a row #1 and still showing good results... poor bait
2020-08-01 21:30
#36
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Argentina druwugs
coldzera went from the most overrated player to one of the most underrated for some reason
2020-08-01 21:43
Brazillians stopped hyping him and EU/NA continued to hate him, that’s pretty much the explanation.
2020-08-01 21:45
#47
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Argentina druwugs
why did Brazilians stop hyping him?
2020-08-01 21:56
#48
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Argentina druwugs
why did Brazilians stop hyping him?
2020-08-01 21:53
Most brazillians turned against him after he left MiBR.
2020-08-01 22:16
#77
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Argentina Joedash
Brazilians are known for toxicity and extreme fangays... That can tell ya a lot.
2020-08-01 22:27
#116
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Argentina druwugs
but usually "extreme fangays" are delusional and support their gods no matter what happens (s1mple fanbase for example)
2020-08-02 05:21
#176
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Argentina Joedash
Yeh, thats true. I guess, like #69 said, that since coldzera is in faze and "betrayed" MIBR, they are against him(bs in my opinion) but well.
2020-08-02 17:27
#338
fnx | 
Brazil Moglao
It's not that brazillians stopped hyping him, it's just that the focus is on mibr and furia, cause they're full br teams
2020-08-03 10:24
s1mple
2020-08-01 21:30
#70
NiKo | 
Russia reguix
0/8
2020-08-01 22:17
guardian
2020-08-01 21:30
+1
2020-08-01 21:32
mens(((( poor guardian. :(
2020-08-01 21:32
feel bad for him tho, i wanna see him in a top tier team soon but it wont happen anymore
2020-08-01 21:33
i mean, he was hltv top 20 for 6 years straight and then fell off in 2019
2020-08-01 21:43
#41
cam | 
United States girls
you seem to think longevity has something to do with this thread
2020-08-01 21:46
#162
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Denmark r0zen^_^
It kinda does, no?
2020-08-02 12:29
No, the point of the thread is who once was performing good and then suddenly, in a very short period, went downhill.
2020-08-02 18:05
#232
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Denmark r0zen^_^
Oh okay, I misunderstood then :) Thanks for the clarification. :)
2020-08-02 18:57
he didn't go downhill in a short period
2020-08-04 11:37
I think it’s because that he went from god to shit in like 4 months.
2020-08-01 21:46
#51
Dosia | 
North America Gc_29
thats the point tho, he dropped off in the span of 4 months after being a top tier player for 6yrs in a row meant to respond to the other guy myb
2020-08-01 22:09
probably burned out. Carried shit navi teams his whole career and then faze choked the major finals.
2020-08-02 05:06
i think so as well, but lets see if he can comeback
2020-08-02 16:26
you believe everything public opinion says. He is still an amazing player, probably didnt have energy to improve at some point but overall he can still get into another top20 players if he gave it all
2020-08-02 18:10
never said he wasn't an amazing player dk what you mean by saying u believe everything public opinion says. My point was that he dropped off hard in those 4 months, i also do believe he can comeback if he really put all his energy into it.
2020-08-02 20:05
i mean its pretty obvious, its a team game and he was not feeling good in navi, add to that probably it was not the structure he was used to playing, maybe they expected him to be an aggresive awper or shit and then all went downhill, he knows a lot about how to win at the highest level and sometimes you lose that energy when you see people wanting to focus on different values than you used to
2020-08-02 20:25
i mean sure maybe ur right, however, my point was that whatever the case was, he still played the worst cs of his entire career in the span of those 4 months. To reiterate, im not saying ur wrong with ur statements, im merely confused as to why ur telling this to me. I believe hes an amazing player and for my money probably the best awp to touch the game and i feel pretty bad for the dude since hes gone through a lot during this period.
2020-08-02 20:31
now im actually not sure after reading it again, still might be a good perspective for other people to read, i really dont approve all the hate guardian was getting last few months but ofc its nothing extraordinary, you play shit you get shit from community
2020-08-02 20:33
+1 sadly :(
2020-08-01 23:24
+1 it was hard to watch
2020-08-02 07:28
+1. Still boggles my mind how he went from being so insane to so mediocre so quickly
2020-08-02 10:41
He had some sort of arm/wrist injury, I think? Same with olof...
2020-08-02 10:48
But wasn’t the arm injury back when SK beat them in a major final?
2020-08-02 21:53
OH GUARDIAN BYE BYEE
2020-08-02 12:29
+1
2020-08-02 18:24
+1
2020-08-02 18:46
#20
TaZ | 
Poland Ghaal
Snax
2020-08-01 21:32
+1, he was one of the most entertaining players to watch.
2020-08-02 18:07
#21
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Europe BIG_BIGFAN
has to be kjaerbye
2020-08-01 21:33
Individually he is still good
2020-08-01 23:30
How? hes just a very slightly above average pro.
2020-08-02 20:39
Tenz
2020-08-01 21:34
+111111
2020-08-01 23:43
tenz was never good on a team people just thought he was cool because he got highlights against level 4s in faceit xd
2020-08-02 07:07
#381
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United States Festive_
nah he fucked up NA MDL for a while and was C9's best player for the two events he played for them. he was a legit player, just had a bad attitude.
2020-08-04 13:04
+1
2020-08-02 07:46
Steven2k
2020-08-01 21:35
Babablacksheep96
2020-08-02 06:08
-1 he was never good in the first place
2020-08-02 06:19
Steven?
2020-08-02 07:58
No, u
2020-08-02 18:24
Nt steven Just resign pls Even a pathetic streamer like jasonr can awp better than you....that to with his toe nail
2020-08-02 18:41
Nt baba Just stop fakeflagging You can't and won't ever be as good of a fakeflagger as i_eat_burgers
2020-08-02 19:40
Why you remind me of my polak boy Fucking piece of kid
2020-08-02 20:35
i mean he still exists
2020-08-02 20:44
Man behind slaughter is not i_eat_burgers stoooooopidd
2020-08-02 20:57
xaxaxaxa yes he is
2020-08-02 21:57
He doesnt talk like i_eat_burgers He doesttalk to me like i_eat_burgers did. He isn't i_eat_burgers
2020-08-02 22:35
#26
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Serbia TheSerb
Seized was so good and went to a nobody Hobbit was so much hype major winner now hes regaining form but not that gr8 Bondik gr8 talent but fell off alot Body Xms
2020-08-01 21:35
#32
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Finland jakem0n
+1
2020-08-01 21:42
#86
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Czech Republic dreamARTz
Seized was never good
2020-08-01 22:42
Wut
2020-08-02 06:08
Seized was good, when zeus left NaVi, NaVi tried to make seized IGL and that IGL role fucked up him. That's why he became bad, he was a good player.
2020-08-02 10:47
He's still playing at that same level as he did back then.
2020-08-02 18:48
lol
2020-08-02 16:27
xms was never good, the only thing that he ever did was that ace
2020-08-02 18:42
#244
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Serbia TheSerb
He was a young talent i he had his moments
2020-08-02 20:01
if we're talking about CIS, why didn't u mention Flamie?
2020-08-04 11:39
#386
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Serbia TheSerb
Forgot about him
2020-08-04 14:51
#29
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Sweden Hasklon
seized, olof, hobbit and adren, wtf happened to dennis he was best pistoler in the world
2020-08-01 21:37
Only 2 pistol round per game
2020-08-01 22:00
#62
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Argentina fedezera
6/8
2020-08-01 22:09
Deagle can one shot on pretty much all ranges on every map, on close range it takes 2-3 hits to kills somebody; conclusion -- play only Deagle.
2020-08-02 18:09
Do you even know what inacurracy is
2020-08-02 18:55
#180
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United Arab Emirates p1peb0mb
Olof has gone down slowly. Top 1 2015,top 8 2016,top 20 2017. Dennis was never that great. Same with adren and hobbit. They are flukes 1 year.
2020-08-02 17:52
Dennis wasn't as good as people might think in fnatic, yeah he was good and there's no denying of that but he was pretty much a safe bet for fnatic to win a pistol round=6 free rounds per map, and he was capable of doing plays which made impact but it's not like he was on top of the scoreboard all the time
2020-08-04 11:41
woxic
2020-08-01 21:37
online happened to him, he has to play on bad ping
2020-08-02 20:04
also can’t concentrate with those curtains attacking him all the time
2020-08-03 01:25
me
2020-08-01 21:39
#37
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World WEEDBRAH
what about decoy aka seized?
2020-08-01 21:44
Read the thread.
2020-08-02 18:09
#361
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World WEEDBRAH
wut?
2020-08-04 01:38
no one said snax yet?
2020-08-01 21:48
#90
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Germany Constikdw
Surprised too +1
2020-08-01 23:08
The big apple never fell off
2020-08-02 07:59
#20
2020-08-02 17:20
new acc his comments were invisible 😎👍
2020-08-02 17:46
Sir olof?
2020-08-01 21:49
olof
2020-08-01 21:51
avangar and gambit
2020-08-01 21:52
dennis
2020-08-01 21:58
still in nip shoes at pic XD
2020-08-01 21:58
Fallen
2020-08-01 22:01
pasha, he never came close to his 2014 form
2020-08-01 22:04
#63
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Sweden fastflop
Pasha was always ass, he was just hyped up for winning a major in 2014
2020-08-01 22:09
that is bs.. there was a time period where he was actually one of the best player.
2020-08-01 23:31
he was ranked #3 in 2014
2020-08-04 16:17
Jugi
2020-08-01 22:05
#64
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Argentina fedezera
byali
2020-08-01 22:09
seized boltz fnx
2020-08-01 22:10
Fnx is quite some different story.
2020-08-02 18:24
+1
2020-08-04 11:43
Definetly twistzz
2020-08-01 22:10
#67
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United Kingdom ukHorizon
any of the faze stand ins that have done nothing since standing in
2020-08-01 22:12
#79
jdm64 | 
Luxembourg ekwi
I think this is a good answer. - NEO was around the tail end of their career already, now HONORIS is probably his last team before complete retirement - AdreN probably around the tail end of his career too but remember cromen? FaZe got him noticed and then he's done nothing much since. I guess Nordavind is ok..
2020-08-01 22:31
#152
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Japan gachinko
Somehow cromen played really well in faze
2020-08-02 11:17
yea lol. and idiots on hltv will blame niko for that.
2020-08-01 22:33
Skadoodle
2020-08-01 22:13
He retired, no?
2020-08-02 18:25
yes
2020-08-02 18:26
Doesn't count.
2020-08-02 18:26
Of course it does?
2020-08-02 18:27
No, he retired, didn't get washed up.
2020-08-02 18:27
He retired because he was washed up
2020-08-02 18:32
As an awper sure, but as an NA awper defo not washed up, imo he wasn't really the reason why C9 was losing matches
2020-08-04 11:44
Taco
2020-08-01 22:17
SIXER
2020-08-01 22:18
Never was good.
2020-08-02 18:25
He was good in pugs -> became pro and washed up at the same time.
2020-08-02 20:42
ALLU
2020-08-01 22:21
he has the same rating the past 3 months and his career
2020-08-02 20:07
no
2020-08-04 11:45
GuardiaN, still hoping he will catch another breath :( But i think its not happening. :(
2020-08-01 22:33
#83
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United States clockworkk
is 6 years considered fast? dude has been good af till 2019
2020-08-01 22:34
I understand this thread as went down the fastest, so longevity doesnt matter. One month he was playing like a god and the other he was going downhill fast.
2020-08-01 22:35
#85
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United States clockworkk
try to play with a fucked up wrist please you'd not even be half as good as you're now he really can't do nothing about it lol
2020-08-01 22:37
#91
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France Insidium
Noone ever said that, we just said that he decayed fast the reason isn't the point
2020-08-01 23:09
yall so dumb and ignorant wtf he didn't drop off just cos he aged or anything he had medical reasons
2020-08-02 00:00
#111
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France Insidium
"The reason isn't the point" "The reason isn't the point" "The reason isn't the point" "The reason isn't the point" "The reason isn't the point"
2020-08-02 02:52
rofl retard
2020-08-02 14:30
#169
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France Insidium
Sorry for your loss
2020-08-02 16:58
bro... how old are you? Just admit you were wrong it really isnt that serious lmao
2020-08-02 18:26
the topic is literally about who dropped off because their time came at least everyone said names of players who couldn't compete anymore cos of their age or whatever but it's a different thing with guaridan bruh why am I even arguiing with some low intelligence 3rd worlders
2020-08-02 18:32
>Low Intelligence >Doesn't know how to use punctuation in his native language Pick two
2020-08-02 18:34
funny how this is the only thing you can do to stay relevant find all the little problems in someone because you're way further behind them nobody gives a shit about punctuation on the internet besides you acne headed nerd
2020-08-02 18:38
Weird how 3rd worlders that can barely speak English can form coherent sentences without giving a shit but you can't
2020-08-02 18:39
because school taught them that lol bruh I write like some fucking journalist when it's needed but I won't give a shit about writing on the internet except the letters people who have english as their native language really do be writing shit like they're actually talking
2020-08-02 18:45
English is my native language and I don't write like a 4 year old?
2020-08-02 18:47
nor have I ever met someone of at least average intelligence writing like a 4 year old?
2020-08-02 18:47
Oh, Intel fanboy, you're clearly not a deluded Intel fanboy but an actual rithart.
2020-08-02 18:26
wrong topic i guess?
2020-08-02 18:31
No.
2020-08-02 18:31
Smithzz
2020-08-01 22:34
Happy dropped off the face of the planet like overnight after they won Cluj in 2015.
2020-08-01 22:59
#88
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Germany potatomato
friberg
2020-08-01 23:03
3 years is pretty solid
2020-08-01 23:08
#102
JW | 
Sweden Hasklon
friberg is not washed, was a solid player in heroic that was top 20 most of the time and DIG is just trash, there is nothing he can do
2020-08-01 23:35
he didn't have to join dig
2020-08-02 20:10
MikeS
2020-08-01 23:10
xms guardian seized dennis and whole vp
2020-08-01 23:17
pasha
2020-08-01 23:17
ceh9
2020-08-01 23:23
Who?
2020-08-02 18:28
famous youtuber 😎👍
2020-08-02 18:56
Ah, thanks!!!
2020-08-02 19:10
stewie
2020-08-01 23:31
#101
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Germany BIG2020
oskar at the end of 2018. its sad but true.
2020-08-01 23:33
I'm pretty sure oskar had offers from top 15 - top 10 teams but he didn't accept the offers and he joined to the HellRaisers. It's impossible that an awper like oskar didn't joined a top 10 team :(
2020-08-02 11:01
It's between mOE and JasonR both of them played 1 pro game against a sick team, they both played well and then never played pro again.
2020-08-01 23:41
m0e is still insane. best awp and mag7
2020-08-02 20:43
m0e was never insane even in Source he was over rated asf and a loud mouth obnoxious kid. While actual good players were on pro teams and making a decent living for themselves, mOe ofc was scamming kids and turning them into degenerate gamblers for his own benefit... What a classy guy seriously, he did so much good for this community, didn't exploit kids at all.
2020-08-03 02:42
thats a lie. m0e is in contention for best player in the world rn.
2020-08-03 02:48
#105
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Finland Jupe_
Maikelele
2020-08-01 23:43
refrezh
2020-08-02 00:04
Skadoodle
2020-08-02 02:53
Snax
2020-08-02 05:19
fnx was rekting, won two majors in a year and was a top20 player in december 2016, two months later he couldn't get 15 frags a game to save his life and got kicked from tier1 cs for good...
2020-08-02 05:21
he was kicked because he did something outside of the game
2020-08-02 06:46
he farted
2020-08-02 10:07
And pissed himself maybe?
2020-08-02 22:02
He probably didn't care. You'd understand if you reasearch a bit about his personality.
2020-08-02 18:30
dafuq? i know him personally (not friends but scrimmed a lot on lans), he obviously didn't cared, he achieved what he wanted in his comeback to t1 cs and didn't care anymore
2020-08-04 11:23
He probably didn't care. You'd understand if you reasearch a bit about his personality.
2020-08-02 18:30
"probably" lmao. he tried to make it but he couldn't.
2020-08-03 07:59
he got kicked because he fucked fer's gf, not because of fragging less
2020-08-02 20:35
why does he need to be in a tier 1 team anymore while he is the ricest csgo player
2020-08-03 07:52
he never got kicked because he couldn't frag lol, and tbh Fer and Fnx were always saving Fallen's and Cold's asses when those two couldn't perform, anyone who watched EPL NA properly would be able to understand that
2020-08-04 11:48
well he was bottom fragging almost every match before he got kicked, that wouldn't be a problem in a team with taco tho, the thing is he wasn't motivated at all and was lacking effort in trainings, something taco never did
2020-08-04 12:51
lol do u really think that he wasn't motivated and was lacking effort just like that? Yeah he wasn't motivated, but for a reason...
2020-08-04 13:16
and the reason is...
2020-08-04 13:22
Ex6tenz :'(
2020-08-02 06:30
no one mentioned kio lul
2020-08-02 07:14
what? he was good for several years
2020-08-03 00:25
0/8
2020-08-03 00:44
seized byali pyth
2020-08-02 07:28
#130
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India S2H
Shroud
2020-08-02 07:45
LUL no, Shroud could still shit on any pro in a 1v1 to this day.
2020-08-02 10:51
Lmao 0/8 Maybe vs moe but i'm not sure
2020-08-02 11:02
"this is bait, because my brain is too small to comprehend a different opinion" -you
2020-08-02 11:04
Are you retard? "0/8" meme stands for shitty baits. #148 is a shitty bait too. 0/8
2020-08-02 11:06
"this is bait, because my brain is too small to comprehend a different opinion" -you
2020-08-02 11:07
"this is bait, because my brain is too small to comprehend a different opinion" -you
2020-08-02 11:08
+1
2020-08-02 18:39
Shroud is GOD
2020-08-02 17:26
0/8 Lmaoooo why na overrates shroud like that
2020-08-02 20:31
Polly DavidP Denis- the German one Spiidi
2020-08-02 09:59
WHOMEGALUL
2020-08-02 20:12
adren, from major mvp to this
2020-08-02 10:07
Snax
2020-08-02 10:10
+1
2020-08-03 07:50
#387
MICHU | 
Poland rdka
snax is something like lekr0 or niko. There was IGL but I still believe that he will return to a stable good game because he already has some good matches and ofc in a good team, not necessarily Polish
2020-08-04 16:13
guardian for sure from top10 a year to top50 the next
2020-08-02 10:15
Yeah, so sad because he was basically good for his entire career
2020-08-02 11:21
#140
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United Kingdom Biiddy
DEVIL
2020-08-02 10:39
S1mple. Been overrated as shit for years now, just because he has a good game every here and there.
2020-08-02 10:50
0/8
2020-08-02 11:20
do you actually think your baits are good or?
2020-08-02 20:13
#153
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Denmark V1kss
Cromen
2020-08-02 11:18
kjarybe
2020-08-02 11:24
nitr0
2020-08-02 12:39
Are we all gonna forget DEVIL the legend??
2020-08-02 12:42
Devil was always shitty, dunno why NV picked him back in the days
2020-08-02 17:19
Nico
2020-08-02 17:18
Just trash cause he can only awp
2020-08-02 20:45
summit s0m
2020-08-02 17:19
Ence?
2020-08-02 17:46
#181
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United Arab Emirates p1peb0mb
Actual answer is fallen,fer,Guardian, scream, shox,
2020-08-02 17:55
niko
2020-08-02 17:57
#186
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France Insidium
0/8
2020-08-02 18:07
i've never heard about ZyWoo then. BOOM Top #1
2020-08-02 18:10
#190
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Germany jermens))
very few goats fall that fast, coldzera and nik0 are the only ones who come to mind
2020-08-02 18:10
suNny, not even close to where he used to be sergej a little bit
2020-08-02 18:44
it's because sunny took a break / was benched
2020-08-02 20:15
#221
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Europe MaHoTei
cromen if you can remember him and guardian
2020-08-02 18:47
Stop writing olof, he was going downhill from 2015, that doesnt qualify for fastest anything.
2020-08-02 18:50
ddoc
2020-08-02 18:50
KQLY KEKW
2020-08-02 18:57
bodyy
2020-08-02 19:09
#239
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Hungary subzera
fallen fer taco flamie s1mple karrigan allu adren + rest of virtus.amateur dignitas cromen snax taz neo byali
2020-08-02 19:47
0/8
2020-08-02 20:16
s1mple??
2020-08-02 20:18
no.... wtf..... s2mple))
2020-08-02 22:26
i'm no scene men((
2020-08-02 22:27
ZywOo best csgo player of all time
2020-08-02 22:29
Vulpiţa şi Viorel second bestest
2020-08-02 22:30
ai dplm e clar
2020-08-02 22:30
țigan 3rd bestest
2020-08-02 22:31
Traian Băsescu 4th bestest
2020-08-02 22:32
opreste-te coaie
2020-08-02 22:32
nt țigan, Vlad "Drăculea" Țepeș 5th bestest.
2020-08-02 22:33
Hai ca e roman.
2020-08-02 22:41
nt no scene
2020-08-02 23:10
#303
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Hungary subzera
was #1 player, now #2. hes washed and on his way down
2020-08-02 23:01
lmao
2020-08-02 23:03
All of VP basically
2020-08-02 19:55
soo true FAK :(
2020-08-02 20:27
#242
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Georgia Megobari
Seized
2020-08-02 19:56
seized Hobbit mou Dosia AdreN Ex6tenZ pronax devilwalk znajder kio Happy Maikelele These guys were all part of teams that were considered top1/2 respectively in their different eras that either won majors or reached major finals. As soon as these players were dropped from their respective teams they disappeared off the face of the earth and were never seen at a major again.
2020-08-02 20:49
+1 for adren, extremely washed up fast
2020-08-03 08:03
+1 that's the best answer
2020-08-04 11:25
Hs
2020-08-02 20:56
kqly and forsaken dissapeared randomly
2020-08-02 21:45
hs
2020-08-02 22:22
Shakerbee Snax Fallen FNX Skadoodle (because he was actually shit from 2016 on and a god for a week in 2018 when he cared) Happy Scream Shox Kioshima Hobbit Guardian (sad mens) Hiko (sad mens) Get Right (sad mens) Probaly a few more but these jump to mind immediately. A lot of dudes seemed to have fallen off in 2016/17 specifically and I think that's because Astralis and to a lesser extent Liquid and Na'vi just leveled up the entire scene in 2018 and 2019. Probably also Source/1.6 pros just getting old.
2020-08-02 22:42
#309
aizy | 
Denmark Gryde
maikelele
2020-08-03 00:45
schneider
2020-08-03 00:52
sagreblo
2020-08-03 01:14
Jame
2020-08-03 01:30
Whole BR scene?
2020-08-03 02:53
seized bodyy kioshima happy fnx
2020-08-03 02:59
Lucky
2020-08-03 07:42
Anj - went from mvp winner to an absoloute bot in nrg and never recovered from that
2020-08-03 07:46
smoooya
2020-08-03 07:50
Jugi, scream, adren, bymas
2020-08-03 08:03
Hiko It is
2020-08-03 08:59
Hobbit
2020-08-03 09:16
Dennis
2020-08-03 09:30
Fifflaren, pashaBiceps
2020-08-03 09:35
#339
ninja | 
Greenland Njaa
snax from god to complete dogshit after VP major end.
2020-08-03 10:29
Guardian
2020-08-03 10:35
#341
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Other stekin
Entire gambit lineup, soon BIG
2020-08-03 10:47
disco doplan
2020-08-03 12:52
G2 fox
2020-08-03 12:57
He declined a Nordavind offer this year and kept playing on Giants but I understand what you're saying
2020-08-03 23:45
Kjaerbye Konfig, period between winning Epicenter untill joining Complexity - he kinda started improving now Whole dignitas lineup after winning Epicenter
2020-08-04 11:32
Fer - top 3 to not even top 20 the next year Konfig probs more but these are the ones that come to mind
2020-08-04 11:36
#375
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Iran poopmod
dont know if he necesary had the fastest decline but he propably had the most drastic. Snax, who was considered a top5 player suddenly became a nobody in a year
2020-08-04 11:49
f0rsaken
2020-08-04 12:06
Scream, seized, shox, get_right
2020-08-04 12:53
Guardian It took 3 seconds for him. Those 3 seconds when he signed NaVi contract
2020-08-04 13:28
brax
2020-08-04 16:18
9z
1.79
Redemption POA
1.99
ORDER
1.34
AVANT
3.25
Complexity
1.42
forZe
2.77
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