-Chelsea. City. PSG. Inter Milan. West Ham, etc
-Bayern, bvb or any other german team, Real Madrid, etc
Whats the difference between the two lists? First one is made of clubs which buy players with money from huge holdings, from Arabic petrol, from Chinese investors...
Second list consists on clubs with a major ownership from members (either because law like bundesliga, or because honor like Madrid). Those teams buy players with the incomes they generate, money they BORROW from lenders... they dont have a white cheque like the others. If football keeps its way, soon this will be no more. We already see clubs going from 0 to 100 without any effort, only with money (hi, chelsea). No longer stories of those small clubs having great seasons because they do things well, buy smart with the little money they have and work hard (Getafe, even if most of you dont like it)
Some clubs will have huge investors and simply dominate the football with money. They will become companies which the common man will have little connection with. We wont feel like we belong to the club anymore, they are just going to be business, marketing, money. This wont be football anymore.
I wouldn't put a club that has been boosted by taxpayers money given by a king who's nowadays fleeing the country in a list of clubs built with sweat and efforts. And I'm not even mentioning being the Franco dictatorship's flagship ...
Debt for big companies doesnt mean the same than debt for you an me. Rm having 500m debt isn't a problem at all due to stable Billions income per year. Thats how big companies work, theyre always in debt but its not a bad thing at all.
In Bundesliga, there are only 3 complete associations all other clubs have made a sports department a GMBH to get more money from outside.
Biggest Club in Germany of this 3 is Schalke.
BVB is a shareholder company.
Bayern is co-owned by 4-5 other partners.
So before you start this topic think what do you mean.
Cuz only complete associations like Schalke live without money injectors.
All that they get is merchandise and sponsorships.
What do you mean? Searching in google says
FC Bayern München eV
Similar for bvb. Not saying youre wrong, im actually curious because i thought it worked like this in BL by law.
There is no law. the 50+1 rule is made by DFL but no LAW by the Government.
And what I mean is all the eV except 3 in BL had outsourced their pro players department to gain money from outside.
so 50+1 or not all who have done that are not really better as Chelsea or Real. Income money is only lower.
Excuse me for being dumb, but i cant manage to catch what you mean. Outsourced players department to gain money.. how does that work?
Ps: doesnt really mind if statal law or local football asociation law tbh.
you found a GMBH then you can acquire loan capital.
As an association you only have your own capital.
As an example association "CologneX" had in the past 80 million own capital. They can get credit by a bank they can get donations etc.
Then they make a GMBH.
Now They can go to McDonalds or Tesla whoever and say "hey do you have some money? "yes" Give it to us just like that...
Their own capital decreases cuz Tesla gives 50 Million so Tesla has 5% of the GMBH
Also, he gets part of the money from merchandising etc.
The thing with eV is it can't be sold cuz it is no company.
That's one of the reason why FFP was made. They control the transfer budget for clubs to spend on buying players. It doesn't matter how much money they got, what matters is controling how they spend their money.
You actually do if youre a member of lets say RM.
Real Madrid is organised as a registered association. This means that Real Madrid is owned by its supporters* who elect the club president.
*people who pay yearly tax to be direct members of the club.
Not 100% agree. If club does things well and becomes big=they generate more money (sales, tickets, tv rights).. Which is fair imo. Its like saying "everyone in amazon should earn the same, from the ceo to the normal workers"
barca and real have been backed by banks for years
it's easy to spend when the tv deal is fixed in your favor and no one come close (unlike bundes and premier tv rights) and when banks will jump to loan money to the club