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Brazil TabzeN 
when it comes to CS we have to understand that the best player in a team is the one that makes them win, either with strats or organizing the team into a structurally consistent one, i've seen plenty of fraggers but can they actually make a team win? if I remember CSGO is a team based game and the objective is to win as a team not as an individual, if it was Deathmatch ok, but it isn't the case. Knowing that, we can discard s1mple, Zywoo or any other superstar that deludes audiences that has no clue that CS is more than aiming and killing moving things. I could be here all day explaining why there's no other human being better than this guy in CSGO but nobody would read anyways and i won't write for ghosts. gla1ve is the real GOAT. if it still doesn't make sense for you so put 5 s1mples against 5 gla1ves and see who wins. (I had the same opinion even befoer astralis went downhill so chill) /close
2020-08-06 22:55
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2020-08-06 22:56
Brazil TabzeN
not sherlock here but i'd guess you didn't read a single line of my thread EDIT: nice edit
2020-08-06 22:57
Ukraine w0nderfull
Who he typed?
2020-08-06 23:01
Mexico tscXvnx
thats why -karrigan was the best thing ever happened to astralis lol
2020-08-06 23:53
Shox goat
2020-08-06 22:56
2020-08-06 22:56
Ukraine w0nderfull
2020-08-06 23:01
2020-08-07 11:22
NiKo - at his best comparable to s1mple and Zywoo however with proven IGL ability
2020-08-06 22:57
2020-08-06 23:40
Ever heard of blast clan? I'd argue some success is still success, shows Niko CAN IGL
2020-08-07 00:40
More like giving himself the best roles and forcing others to bait for him
2020-08-07 01:02
2020-08-07 03:25
Germany BernsteiN
2020-08-07 05:06
Flair checks out
2020-08-07 07:49
Ofc its captain. Brain wins battles and so called star players are just puppets.
2020-08-06 22:59
read my name :D
2020-08-06 23:00
2020-08-06 23:41
Brazil TabzeN
gl4ive > s0mple
2020-08-07 03:53
2020-08-07 13:07
s1mple > gla1ve sry BRA71L kid
2020-08-10 01:43
Brazil sakaaa
I agree, to some extent. There's more to it than you described but you made a very good point.
2020-08-06 23:06
there is no other team in the world like NaVi that would transcend the time and pass the experience to the new generation. not a single one. Zeus can be easily the GOAT
2020-08-06 23:06
except worse aim and never reached same peak as Astralis with his team. Gla1ve goat, or maybe even device because he is a complete player (star, anchor, awp, brain plays etc)
2020-08-10 02:14
s1mple is the GOAT
2020-08-06 23:41
2020-08-07 01:00
Goat of being banned by esl
2020-08-07 01:04
hello? How about another day at an orphanage in Lithuania?
2020-08-10 01:46
No idea my boy, never been there
2020-08-10 02:08
Finland OldStager
F0rest is the real GOAT. Unlike GeT_RiGhT, he has kept his consistensy over the years.
2020-08-06 23:44
I mean even GTR has been pretty consistent, of course not on the level of F0rest through.
2020-08-07 01:02
2020-08-06 23:47
most likely the case. its very hard to say who really is the goat but gla1ve and f0rest are both up there, and no matter how good s1mple and zywoo have been in the last years they are nowhere near goat status.
2020-08-06 23:50
its device and no one comes close
2020-08-07 00:02
f0rest,flusha,cold,device,get_right,olof,gla1ve any of them could be the goat but to me the list is: 1/2.cold 2 major 2 mvp 2 top1 or 2/1.device 4 major 2 mvp but no top1 5 top10 tho 3/4.Olof/flusha 3 majors 1 mvp,but olof has 1 hltv top1,but its a tie to me 5.Gla1ve igl of one of the greatest teams of cs history,but no so skilled as the players above(aim wise) 6.Get Right 1 major,2 top1 and was the star with f0rest of the legendary nip streak 7.F0rest Below get bcz he doesn't have top1 this list can be different to any1 and is understandable to disagree with it,since all players listed are legends of the game
2020-08-07 00:17
Coldzera??? Bhahahahaahahhaahajaha
2020-08-07 11:35
ik that he b8ed taco whole time but still have 2 majors(with 2 mvps) and 2 top1 hltv,but he's performance now is just a shadow of what he did in sk/lg,but the only one consistent player here is device,the rest had poor performances against top level teams in several years,but device doesn't have a top1,and thats why cold still have a chance against him in goat conversation
2020-08-07 12:43
Buhahahahahahahahaha I'm not even gonna try to convince you baitzor
2020-08-07 14:53
Putting gla1ve in here is just too edgy. No reason why gla1ve would be higher in turms of being considered as a GOAT than dev1ce.
2020-08-07 04:35
2020-08-07 05:05
I would take zywoo or s1mple rather then gla1ve at any day of the month.
2020-08-07 05:04
Flusha GOAT
2020-08-07 07:31
we already saw a showmatch between fraggers and igls and guess what...fraggers won. good igls are useless without good players and other way around. the thing that gla1ve is an igl doesnt mean that he was is important than his team mates...
2020-08-07 07:53
could you give me the link to that match ?
2020-08-07 07:56
NiKo /closed
2020-08-07 07:55
I'd rather see some shit major with s1mple doing s1mple things and some sick awp shots by zhywo or kenny than seeing astralis winning all of them by playing as a team.
2020-08-07 12:50
neo[t] by far
2020-08-07 12:51
but s1mple will win <3
2020-08-07 13:09
United Kingdom Jonty04l32
Actually there cannot be a "GOAT", subjectively speaking. I made a topic expressing why this is the case. You making a topic irking opinions to then talk about an absolute makes the topic counterintuitive entirely. Your opinion is respected, however. Have a good day.
2020-08-07 14:58
2020-08-07 15:04
United Kingdom Jonty04l32
What about ScreaM?
2020-08-07 15:11
most failed player ever
2020-08-10 02:17
Tabsen > Gla1ve
2020-08-07 14:59
2020-08-07 15:04
gla1ve, dev1ce, s1mple, f0rest, flusha basically these are the top 5, choose your own flavor
2020-08-10 02:16
India somecunt
Wait till end of next year, zywoo will have 3 HLTV top1s and easy GOAT,who cares about majors.
2020-08-10 02:17
2020-08-10 02:29
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