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Leaf, gAuLeS and fnatic
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Brazil EnVyiwnl 
I see many Americans and Europeans criticizing the attitude of Gaules and the BRs with Leaf. I agree that death threats should not be sent to anyone in any case. but why when the LDLC fans sent death threats to FNATIC at Dreamhack2014 or when they went on a witch hunt with fnatic no one reacted so badly? and why didn't anyone accuse SmithZZ or Happy of braindead, or did they ask LDLC to be banned from playing camps? for me the problem is not to hate the gaules, or not to like the attitude of the stupid ones who sent death threats to CHAOS. for me the only problem was intolerance. I know it's been a long time. but I am still very angry seeing people cursing Brazilians who did nothing wrong
2020-08-07 17:09
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2020-08-07 17:09
#87
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Brazil IsFree
You think some player on a tier 3 mediocre NA team CHEATS, and even more, he needs CHEATING TO BEAT FUCKIN MIBR KKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK?? Grow up
2020-08-07 22:17
imo leaf dont cheat
2020-08-07 23:52
#95
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Brazil IsFree
So, you are comparing bullying a team that DID exploit to bullying a team that DID NOT cheat, you see the difference
2020-08-08 06:58
my comparison is the international repercussion of death threats and other things
2020-08-08 16:41
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Brazil ricca
xqcCheeto
2020-08-07 17:09
On safari IS THAT A CHEETO
2020-08-08 07:09
#102
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Brazil ricca
xDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD
2020-08-08 14:45
Pepega SAY IT
2020-08-08 07:33
boo hooo what about them?!?!?!? :((((( ldlc is no excuse they did wrong too but scene was different back than and it was never as serious as with gaules fans
2020-08-07 17:11
WAT? it was a witch hunt fucked by FNATIC in 2014 (my favorite team is fnatic) and the threats were so severe that they almost made FNATIC players retire. I agree that it was wrong to send death threats to LEAF, but there was no "evidence" with FLUSHA. but to say that LDLC didn't do something as wrong as Gaules is a lie
2020-08-07 17:15
Okay tell me exactly what did the Ldlc players do? never said the hate against fnatic wasnt bad
2020-08-07 17:29
they did nothing wrong, I just repudiate what the fans did. (the only thing smithzz did was complain that Fnatic was planning to use the Smithzz boost to punish LDLC. which may also have propelled a bunch of idiots wanting to send death threats to FNATIC, even though it was not smithzz's fault) and me I'm a big fan of happy and smithzz.
2020-08-07 17:33
so why even complain when gaules is starting a witch hunt
2020-08-07 17:45
I think the witch hunt was really wrong, I just want you to stop criticizing those who did not make mistakes because of imbeciles who sent death threats (the ones who did not make mistakes were the fans who never participated in the hunt)
2020-08-07 17:51
Okay ofc most brazilian fans are nice guys and wouldnt do death threats
2020-08-07 19:32
Good morning, good afternoon and good night everyone, I hope you are healthy and happy
2020-08-07 17:11
#79
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Brazil sakaaa
it's friday man.. how can we not be happy :D beer waiting in the fridge, meat unfreezing for bbq later with family and it's sunny but not hot! that's what i call an awesome day!
2020-08-07 20:08
=D
2020-08-07 20:07
fnatic DID abuse a pixelwalk leaf DID NOT cheat
2020-08-07 17:12
no one has proof whether LEAF cheated or not. but the issue is neither olofboost, but death threats that should not even be made for a game. if something is against the rules, it has to be punished by the rules, not with death. and also the international reaction to the attacks, with many innocent people being accused because of imbeciles who told the guy to kill himself
2020-08-07 17:18
I totally agree leaf didn't cheat at all, this video proves it youtube.com/watch?v=TVI3DMWx5Zo&t=25s
2020-08-07 18:05
#73
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India c0nsc10us
LDLC also abused a pixel flaw in the map. Which was why it was to be replayed. LDLC did not get the same sort of backlash as Fnatic did. I'm not equating the scenario then to the scenario now. I'm just saying Fnatic got the harsh end of the stick there. A very sharp one at that.
2020-08-07 18:42
#86
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United States Windy_C
Def. People always forget they used one as well. Fnatic was robbed.
2020-08-07 22:16
#81
ZywOo | 
Sweden upEcs
not true tbh, In that tournament it wasnt no rule against pixelwalking. so they didnt abuse anything... uneducated
2020-08-07 20:09
But LDLC did the exact same thing
2020-08-08 00:00
Wh0 cars
2020-08-07 17:13
fnatic actually did something wrong LUL leaf innocent
2020-08-07 17:14
the issue is neither olofboost, but death threats that should not even be made for a game. if something is against the rules, it has to be punished by the rules, not with death. and also the international reaction to the attacks, with many innocent people being accused because of imbeciles who told the guy to kill himself. I think they could have repudiated the act of threatening death for both sides
2020-08-07 17:20
No, innocent is a MAD Lions player
2020-08-07 17:52
LMAO. its google translator
2020-08-07 17:59
What?
2020-08-07 18:01
GOOGLE TRANSLATOR is shit
2020-08-07 18:03
But leaf is not innocent
2020-08-07 18:04
yes, leaf is from chaos innocent is from MAD LIONS
2020-08-07 18:05
Exactly men))
2020-08-07 18:06
#60
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North America Swboy1010
Dammit I hate when player names have weird wordplays.
2020-08-07 18:10
oh shit men my bad ))
2020-08-07 18:41
ldlc also did a pixel boost or an illegal boost whatever it was. The story is a shit show
2020-08-07 22:10
LDLC did the same thing but they were mad cos theirs wasnt as OP
2020-08-08 00:00
#9
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Finland Jodecast
Yeah a couple of fans doing that compared to the herd of brazilian gaules fans doing it Quite a difference
2020-08-07 17:17
it was a MINORITY that did the absurd to send threats to LEAF, I just think that death threats should be repudiated equally
2020-08-07 17:21
#18
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Finland Jodecast
Nah, there is a ton of people that dont get the point. Look at RL got for his article. Shit ton of hate, there is a lot of people that are not going to travel to brazil because of this kind of behaviour. Dude your country has a sport chant that goes "you are going to die" lmao. Your sport culture is just rotten
2020-08-07 17:25
the problem is that a minority that makes a lot of noise, makes more noise than a silent majority, and I agree that esports br are quite toxic, like the fans who spit on SpaceSoldiers
2020-08-07 17:27
#20
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Finland Jodecast
Dude gaules apology wasnt even a apology lmao. Not his first time he has done something like this and wont be his last. He knows very well what he can cause
2020-08-07 17:28
unfortunately people think that why the idol thinks, that they can threaten death. I understand that he has the power to influence, and as much as he tells him not to do it, there will always be a stupid one who will do it, so Gaules could have been careful in doing this, even though the fault is not 100% his . (I agree with you 95%)
2020-08-07 17:31
imo those who sent death threats to leaf should be severely punished, because in addition to causing psychological damage, it tarnishes the image of Brasileirinho worldwide
2020-08-07 17:28
#33
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Europe Inhabitant
The leaf thing happened weeks ago and GAULES FANBOYS still spam the twitter of chaos twitter.com/ChaosEC/status/1290702794236.. just read the replies. leaf had to put his twitter on private and will be harassed by brazilian fans for the rest of his career
2020-08-07 17:49
I agree that they should stop spamming, as this will not change anything and will not help. and the fans of mibr who are spamming are doing it because of JONJI, who was mocking MIBR
2020-08-07 17:54
#11
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United States jack4000
It werent LDLC fans you newfag, it was the whole community
2020-08-07 17:18
I told LDLC fans just not to generalize, and I'm also a fan of the old LDLC
2020-08-07 17:20
#25
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United States jack4000
There are some differences between the LDLC players from 2014 and gaules/mibr players from 2020: -LDLC had way way less followers than mibr -brazillians are more "passionate" The people that hated on fnatic were wrong, same with the brazillians hating on leaf and Chaos. No idea who you mean with the brazillians that did nothing wrong.
2020-08-07 17:33
brazillians who send death threads id a lot of wrong things, but I think those who didn't even get involved could stop being treated like m0nk3ys
2020-08-07 17:36
but, +1
2020-08-07 17:36
#15
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Mongolia Kkura
Can't believe im agreeing with jack
2020-08-07 17:22
im just talking about death theads. because the whole community repudiated the breach of rules, including me
2020-08-07 17:23
#17
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United States jack4000
thats your loss, not mine
2020-08-07 17:25
Few weeks ago I got 7day banned for calling you a f***ot it was worth it
2020-08-08 07:14
Are you trying to justify a fucking death threat because no one said a thing on the first time? LDLC fans should have been shamed just like mibr fans being shamed now if there is a death threat. Gaules just encouraged some "kids" to say terrible things.
2020-08-07 17:31
no, i'm not trying to justify, i just repudiate both equally and i think they could stop treating people who did nothing wrong like patients who did the same thing as those who threatened
2020-08-07 17:35
sorry if it looked like I said that Brazilians did not do wrong. i'm using a translator that doesn't work perfectly
2020-08-07 17:58
what is your point exactly? are you saying br people did nothing wrong cause group lynching has also happened in the past???!!!? "I am still very angry seeing people cursing Brazilians who did nothing wrong" This sentence makes no sense because alot of brazilians did do wrong
2020-08-07 17:37
my point is about the international repercussion and that both should be extremely repudiated. and those who sent death threats or things like that are extremely wrong
2020-08-07 17:58
sorry if it looked like I said that Brazilians did not do wrong. i'm using a translator that doesn't work perfectly
2020-08-07 17:58
>6 years ago
2020-08-07 17:46
actually 5 and a few months
2020-08-07 17:55
everything depends on the time in the future, no one will remember that this happend
2020-08-07 18:14
yes. have a good day meu caro
2020-08-07 18:23
you too my amigo
2020-08-07 22:07
Tldr
2020-08-07 17:51
#37
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United States clockworkk
fuck gaules all my homies hate gaules
2020-08-07 17:52
flag cheks out
2020-08-07 17:56
#75
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United States clockworkk
so what lol nobody likes gaules over 16
2020-08-07 19:20
#70
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Bulgaria cuddleslut
+1
2020-08-07 18:30
#46
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Netherlands staticNL
brazilians are so biased that they cant perceive anything a brazilian does as negative. no point in arguing.
2020-08-07 18:01
I didn't say that, I said that there were people who didn't send death theads, I didn't say that all Brazilians didn't make mistakes about leaf
2020-08-07 18:04
#58
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Netherlands staticNL
gaules led a massive witch hunt on a 16 year old kid without proper proof. He interviewed pros and others to analyze clips, he scrutinized leaf's performance in other matches after mibr, showed clips of leaf and said he WAS cheating. He didnt leave the kid alone. He kept on barrading him. He was insanely in the wrong here. He should not have been allowed to be an official broadcast partner to ESL anymore. Even if chaos were to qualify, they can NEVER attend a brazilian event because of gaules. Its disgusting. But brazilians think its fine cuz "theyre sure leaf cheated". Its horrible behaviour to witness. Makes me think of people in the middle ages grabbing pitch forks in groups and killing a person with way too little proof. Other countries have advanced past that, but it seems to me that Brazilians still think thats justified.
2020-08-07 18:09
I agree with you, I just think THOSE WHO DIDN'T THREATEN AND DID NOTHING WRONG FOR THE GIRL COULD STOP BEING EVILLY TREATED BECAUSE OF STUPIDS. gaules make mistake, a very bad mistake
2020-08-07 18:11
#62
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Netherlands staticNL
I have no clue what problem with intolerance you have. People treat BRs badly because BRs behave like shit themselves. Its simple cause and effect. Has nothing to do with intolerance. Its the only community I see spam death threads constantly and repeating stupid as fuck arguments without being able to think for themselves or see how incredibly biased and unlogical their arguments are. And they come in masses. Its very natural that people get annoyed by such behaviour and start acting negatively in return to brazilians. Also, the reason why people seem to blame 'all brazilians', is because online it seems like 90% of them are actually behaving badly. I hardly ever see 'good brazilians' denounce the bahaviour of the 'bad' ones. And even if you do see it, its only a small percentage. As long as the majority of the Brazilians (assuming those are good people) would take a stand against the vocal horribly uncivilized minority, we wouldn't have this problem of 'intolerance against all brazilians'.
2020-08-07 18:18
ok, u have a point here, few people screaming make more noise than many quiet, unfortunately. many Brazilians are shit as a person, like those who spit on SpaceS or who booed astralis just for eliminating MIBR
2020-08-07 18:22
#66
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Netherlands staticNL
I'm sure most brazilians are fine people. but because of the quiet majority, its very hard for foreigners to tell. It creates a bias in your mind, which is hard to shake off. you seem like a good dude tho
2020-08-07 18:23
you also look like a nice guy to me. I understand your point and agree with him, good evening =D
2020-08-07 18:25
#68
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Netherlands staticNL
gn
2020-08-07 18:25
=D
2020-08-07 18:26
I HATE GOOGLE TRANSLATOR, ALL MY HOMIES HATES GOOGLE TRANLATOR. IT WAS SEEMING THAT I SAID THAT BRAZILIANS DID NOT DONE WRONG, WHEN I WAS TALKING THAT THERE WERE BRALISEISTS THAT DID NOT DONE WRONG
2020-08-07 18:02
Ok.
2020-08-07 18:04
Brazillians who send death theads are wrong. brazillians who dont sent death threads and dont spam arent wrong. just this
2020-08-07 18:09
+11111
2020-08-07 22:09
Name does not check out
2020-08-08 07:26
the poor brazilians are the victims again :((
2020-08-07 18:38
#76
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Macedonia hextick
leaf- under 18 whole fnatic team at that time - over 19 /closed
2020-08-07 19:23
your logic is flawed. you're insinuating that two things can't be wrong at the same time. grow up.
2020-08-07 19:33
#90
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32
It's come across like that but I think I understand the users point...
2020-08-07 23:57
#82
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Chile esanchez47
#FreeLeaf
2020-08-07 20:12
#89
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32
So what you're attempting to try and get across is that death threats are always bad but double-standards are just as detrimental when taking death threats into account? I agree it's unnecessary in all cases... especially in the world of esports.
2020-08-07 23:57
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