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United States jack4000 
Imagine signing a "young talent" who failed so hard in FaZe LOL Why is upwards failing so common in csgo all of a sudden ? bymas goes to mouz after failing in FaZe Kjaerbye goes to FaZe after failing in North Lekr0 was going to Mad Lions after failing in NiP Thoughts? I dont understand it
2020-08-10 17:56
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#1
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Argentina Joedash
The big question here is, why u so obsessive with faze/faze players?
2020-08-10 17:56
#2
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United States jack4000
because FaZe and their loser players are comedy gold
2020-08-10 17:57
Eg fan talking shit about faze
2020-08-10 17:59
EG is 200 points head of FaZe lmao
2020-08-10 18:05
There's literally only 2 tier 1 teams that EG has to fight rn and that's Liquid and FURIA lmao.
2020-08-10 18:07
and the only tier 1 teams FaZe have to play are BIG and Vitality? lmfao
2020-08-10 18:09
#31
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Albania Edjon
sometimes i cant tell if you are baiting or just dumb
2020-08-10 18:27
Look at his name:o Jk but yes what do u expect on hltv? Everyone claims to have 150+iq and better gamesense than zywoo but the avg hltv user is just not the brightest shining lightbulb around
2020-08-10 18:42
#35
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United States jack4000
I have every right to do that :) EG is clear #2 rn and can only be beaten by BIG FaZe is a team full of losers that cant win a tournament
2020-08-10 18:38
Eg only plays in Na,weak region , faze plays against navi, g2, big and vitality, those teams are best, not Eg
2020-08-11 06:03
Eg is a literally trash team, even astralis would beat them
2020-08-11 06:03
#11
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Peru TheJuan
Not wrong
2020-08-10 18:00
#21
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Germany Azes
omg i remember the speedrun video from esl
2020-08-10 18:14
#43
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United States jack4000
if you go back even more time you might reach the year when faze was not a joke
2020-08-10 18:52
#49
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Argentina Joedash
Well, the humiliation of getting 16-0'd by an ex-member of faze is still there man.
2020-08-10 21:18
#51
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United States jack4000
yeah, the only non loser to ever play for FaZe :D
2020-08-10 21:21
#53
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Argentina Joedash
Yet EG got 16-0'd by him and before that EG lost not once but twice in the same tournament against Faze when they were _top 1".
2020-08-10 21:23
#58
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United States jack4000
ok and who cares? EG is now clear #2 and Faze are full of losers that will never win
2020-08-10 22:05
#60
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Argentina Joedash
Fair enough. NA iq dropped down a lot after so much bs happening there it seems.
2020-08-10 22:50
#71
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Germany BernsteiN
+1
2020-08-11 06:20
#70
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Denmark gh00st
Thank god I'm alive to read an argument between an EG fan and a Faze fan on who is the greatest winner when we all know that both are losers
2020-08-11 06:17
#76
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Argentina Joedash
Well, he proclaims to be the greatest winner, i only argued that he is obsessed with Faze and its players xD
2020-08-11 12:35
This move only solidifies Mouz as Budget FaZe.
2020-08-10 17:58
+1 Mouz GuardiaN soon
2020-08-10 18:25
faze rekt the navi org badly w/ guardian tho they bought a trash guardian for cheap, made him good again, then sold a trash guardian back to navi again for a high price axaxaxaxaxaxa
2020-08-10 18:26
#72
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Germany BernsteiN
Best move
2020-08-11 06:21
That or it says about the current player pool in CSGO scene, almost being non-existent when you look at how many just moved to valorant: vlr.gg/rankings
2020-08-10 18:36
+1 getting all leftovers
2020-08-10 21:33
Where did he fail in Faze? lmaooo He showed some great potential, he is top 20 material for sure
2020-08-10 17:58
In what way? He couldn't even aim well, let alone having some OUTSTANDING potential to arouse interest of big organisations like FaZe or mouz LOL
2020-08-10 18:11
he is 16 yrs old with 0 experience, u put him against fucking t1 teams(AS ENTRY and bitch role) and expect him to shine? gtfo donkey, wait few years like with ropz, he will show what he is capable of.
2020-08-10 18:28
Man, I mean there is nothing surprising in your statement in view of your flag, but being a patriot doesn't necessarily mean neglecting obvious things. Bymas didn't shine even in his tier7 team before FaZe and in FPL as well, why does he deserve so much appreciation and recognition? Besides, mentioning ropz doesn't back up your words since both ropz and frozen seemed to be shooting heads from their very start, unlike the aforementioned BYMAS
2020-08-10 18:33
my flag doesnt mean anything, and i would say about any upcoming talent same shit, he was in trash spot at faze and at his young age he did well, he wasn't in position to shine AT ALL, look at faze's games before looking only at stats.
2020-08-10 18:39
and im not saying that he will be as good as frozen/ropz, just give this kid few years of grind...
2020-08-10 18:44
My point is, we should talk AFTER these few years of grind and not jump ahead. At present, his only talent is that he reached FPL at a very young age, but I don't see any reasonable arguments for his immediate lift from tier 7 to tier 1. In my opinion, it would be fair for him to have a complete way upwards, especially when his performance has shown nothing special
2020-08-10 18:59
#46
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United Kingdom StonkBonk
Bymas didn’t entry much for Faze. He picked up Olof's old role which was more of a lurk/extremity on default. He wants to entry and I assume Mouz have told him they’ll let him entry a lot.
2020-08-10 19:04
Bymas sucks, when it counts the most he dosen't just make mistakes, he fucking makes silver mistakes like he started playing yesterday and you talk potential:)
2020-08-11 10:24
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Lithuania Janbob
Reach something and than say that they failed, they earn more money than hardworking you by playing a game, lets think now who failed :)
2020-08-10 17:58
If it's good for team then I wouldn't care whether he failed in FaZe or not.
2020-08-10 17:59
Lekro didnt fail. kjaerbye didnt fail. bymas had to play in a team with no supportive elements and no proper igl as his first real team....
2020-08-10 17:59
#17
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Argentina Joedash
Well, you can't blame all on the team. The guy couldn't reach 10 kills neither in a match, he is not ready for tier 1 teams.
2020-08-10 18:07
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Lithuania Martis
Because failing is previous team doesn't mean a shit these days and players can easily recover
2020-08-10 17:59
Nah its a really smart move from Mouz. Their was to much pressure and not enough team play development for him on Faze and to play with some of the best players ever on your first team was just a bad move. If Mouz develop him to be a good team player and learn the good from the bad in CS and team play he will be a great player.
2020-08-10 17:59
What u mean Lekr0 was failing in NIP ? ? ? Look at his statistics, being kicked/leaving doesn't mean someone fails XD
2020-08-10 18:00
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Czech Republic y0fl0w
He's 16, just watch mouz producing the next top 20 player
2020-08-10 18:04
karrigan can do it. niko cant
2020-08-10 22:06
#16
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United Kingdom StonkBonk
Jack why do you leave a space between your title and the question mark after it? Very disappointing punctuation usage 😤
2020-08-10 18:06
Lekro was good in nip
2020-08-10 18:17
#75
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Europe Pts
Lepr0 was good? Yea with deagle... literally only thing he can do is play deagle. He's absolute dogshit with any other weapon + he's one of the most stupid players in terms of decisionmaking ( Gade level brain )
2020-08-11 10:59
still better than hampus
2020-08-11 19:02
#23
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Finland AleksiBOT
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2020-08-10 18:21
#32
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Netherlands Sem0733
This.
2020-08-10 18:28
People fail yes, that's why they change team. I don't get your thread And failing doesnt mean shit nowadays, especially for a 16yo who evolved 2 months in a toxic environment
2020-08-10 18:23
best comment
2020-08-10 18:26
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Estonia pj4
this comment closed the dumb thread. wp
2020-08-11 05:56
well Bymas joined FaZe and didn't fit in, thats probably why he played bad. Don't judge on stats, get the facts u noob
2020-08-10 18:25
honestly he did quite well despite the position he was put into, trying to fill a gap in lineup, playing post he is not comforable in especially after the player who left was 100 percent support player
2020-08-10 18:39
#38
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Israel wetz
shut up jack
2020-08-10 18:40
#39
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Turkey xMercy
Are you dumb? Stupid? Pr dumb?
2020-08-10 18:41
#42
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Czech Republic MatyVlaky
because karrigan can maybe make him superstar
2020-08-10 18:45
#48
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Peru TheJuan
Go back to posting Faze love threads Jack
2020-08-10 21:18
Imagine thinkiing that Not playing well with Niko as IGL means that Even karrigan cant help you perform
2020-08-10 21:21
you are shitting on the kid when you know he is 100x better than you could ever be
2020-08-10 21:27
1. Karrigan can make bymas good player, cuz he definetly have the potential 2. Kjaerbye trash pickup I agree with it 3. Lekr0 faild as a IGL not a fragger he can be a good fragger without IGLing IMO
2020-08-10 21:39
HLTV logic: Omg player "failed" in a team, that means he will fail in another. Jesus christ, think outside your tiny box dude. In Mouz he will actually have a real IGL and hes not gonna have huge pressure on him like in FaZe.
2020-08-10 22:55
#63
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Lithuania Extazis
You so stupid a kid played not his role yu faking bish
2020-08-10 23:09
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Estonia kapsXD
16yo kid played in 1st pro team and thats FaZe ofc it was hard for him....
2020-08-10 23:16
Even before joining faze bymas was scouted by mouz to join their 6 man roster, but faze grabbed him. But unlike niko, karrigan is someone who knows how to set players up
2020-08-10 23:31
Because all decisions are made by pros who are clueless and oblivious on how to build teams. If we had something similiar to what a sports director/coach does in football we'd have much better teams.
2020-08-11 06:01
#73
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United States NA_KEKW
Bymas fits ChrisJ role, as well as he can easily be molded by Karrigod
2020-08-11 06:42
good point actually
2020-08-11 12:36
#78
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Poland mlodzier
What? Kjaerbye was the best north player, it just a team failure not the individual one
2020-08-11 12:37
the biggest failure on faze was/is niko, and everyone else is failing ONLY because of him.
2020-08-11 12:39
its a win for mouz, he was already training in a pro team at the expense of faze learning how to play against structured teams (he is already winning monthly 1sts in faceit on an individual level), now he will play some new roles on a different team from a different perspective which is probably the best training he can receive before competing at the top and before he blooms
2020-08-11 12:45
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