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ChrisJ
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Denmark Treogtredive 
I honestly dont understand how he can be safe from every single roster change / player addition etc etc. Hes the one that should be kicked for some other player. Maybe not for Bymas, but still. Karrigan Ropz Frozen Woxic +*insert player* 6th player: ChrisJ Is what Mouz should do.
2020-08-10 18:51
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2020-08-10 19:11
Because he is wolf of wallstreet
2020-08-10 19:14
2020-08-10 19:16
Because you only look at stats
2020-08-10 19:16
HAAHAHAHA. Always the same bs answer "yOu OnLy LoOk At StAtS". No, i dont. Mouz already have: A better IGL A better AWPer X better riflers Him being in Mouz is simply because hes been in Mouz for such a long time. Hes probably good friends with Stefan Wendt and René Lannte. Removing ChrisJ for (READ ->example<-) Maden would be such a good move because, they would: 1. Get a solid entry fragger 2. Get a good 2nd AWPer / AWP duo with Maden and Woxic
2020-08-10 19:21
No, you only look at stats.
2020-08-10 19:21
0/8.
2020-08-10 19:23
+1
2020-08-10 19:57
#57
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United States clockworkk
what did you expect from a godsent fan? farlig insane stats zehn good stats maden great stats yet the team is barely in the top 30 KEKW
2020-08-10 20:10
#48
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United Kingdom galaxyv2
you just named the two things that chrisJ is good at, sure maybe they should make roster moves but from my perspective with no lan you can’t gauge if a roster move is good/bad
2020-08-10 20:04
But they have been playing on LAN before the virus lol? And ChrisJ still performed pretty wack. Mention what? AWP and entry? I wouldnt exactly call ChrisJ good at AWP/entry, hes OK, Maden is solid.
2020-08-10 20:04
#56
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United Kingdom galaxyv2
maden hasn’t played tier 1 you can’t compare this year he has been bad but you have to remember that half the year has been online and before he put up two 1+ and one 0.95 as the entry player in the 3 events at the beginning. Not only does he sacrifice his performance so another player can be comfortable in different positions but he probably brings a lot to the table as a teammate and former IGL best case scenario is that mouz plays with Bymas until LANS resume and if chrisj is still putting up his online stats of 0.85, then you kick him for good.
2020-08-10 20:09
"maden hasn’t played tier 1 you can’t compare" hltv.org/team/6902/godsent#tab-matchesBo.. ?? "best case scenario is that mouz plays with Bymas until LANS resume and if chrisj is still putting up his online stats of 0.85, then you kick him for good." Thats most likely whats gonna happen, or ChrisJ will be a backup player only. They didnt just bring in Bymas to be a 6th player, hes probaly replacing someone (ChrisJ) later next year IF he performs
2020-08-10 20:13
#68
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United Kingdom galaxyv2
and i described my best case scenario not the one that will happen i’m sorry but half this year is null and void you can’t call someone tier 1 for playing online leagues lol maden is good though
2020-08-10 20:18
Well obviously CS 2020 have been a complete shitshow, as we can see the biggest online team on this planet is #1 when they should be #20-#25. Yeah Maden is a very talented player, and i bet hes playing in either Mouz or FaZe if Godsent starts dropping of / losing in ranking.
2020-08-10 20:27
same reason Bubzkji wasn't wanted - out of game. Chrisj is pretty chill (when he doesn't slam his desk lol) and a lot of the discussion of the players of mouz (if you look beyond the stats, at what was said by karrigan when he was building the team) they looked at the out of game because a team will always fail if they all hate eachother. Chris is probably liked out of the game.
2020-08-10 20:20
+1
2020-08-10 19:34
Its probably something within the team. A lot of people overlook this but the players in-game performance isnt the only factor in kicking/replacing someone.
2020-08-10 19:17
"but the players in-game performance isnt the only factor in kicking/replacing someone." I know this dude. But, ChrisJ isnt needed in the team as a player. Yeah sure, he might be a....idk what to say...good teammate(?) and probably gives Karrigan advice/help etc but still, there is so many talented players that deserve a chance in a HUGE org. Now obviously they added Bymas, hes already been on FaZe and was OK-isch, but lets see how Karrigan handles him on the team. Just look at ChrisJs performance from 2013 to now: hltv.org/stats/players/career/2730/chris.. Its gone from the top and now rock bottom, which is sad to see tbh. 2013, 2014 and 2015 was probably ChrisJs best years in his career after that his performance just became worse
2020-08-10 19:25
Most players from 2013-2014 have gotten worst, but ya especially ChrisJ. Many people do deserve a chance but Mousesports seems to have had a 'solid' roster before Covid. ChrisJ was a part of that and he brings so much experience into the team, as well as being a wonderful team player (from what i know) Also he doesnt play necessarily bad, just pretty average. Also this could be a NiP situation were everyone didnt want to kick anyone even if they were on the decline and the org listened to them.
2020-08-10 19:31
#20
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Netherlands Titanos
What you don't get is that, if he truly is that bad and "idk man a good teammate and helps karrigan idk", an org would've kicked him. He offers something that others have no information on and that you can't see, thus maybe you need to quit being the expert on what a certain team needs and doesn't need. They know it better than you do.
2020-08-10 19:32
Where did i state that i was an "expert blabla"? I never did. "They know it better than you do." Wtf even is that supposed to mean? No shit Sherlock? They are in the org with the player we are talking about? wtf rofl?
2020-08-10 20:40
#94
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Netherlands Titanos
Then stop talking about "THEY NEED TO REPLACE CHRISJ"
2020-08-10 21:04
lol. So someone that says "Imo this player should go" = Expert pro MLG? Nice logic. Flag checks out since you only have 2 relevant players in your scene, ChrisJ and Cruc1al.
2020-08-10 21:25
#96
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Netherlands Titanos
"Flag checks out since you only have 2 relevant players in your scene, ChrisJ and Cruc1al." Nice one, very original LUL "lol. So someone that says "Imo this player should go" = Expert pro MLG? Nice logic." Nice exxaggerations. Just don't talk shit about a player and act like you know what's best for mouz and their roster if you don't know jack. Tyvm, cocky dane.
2020-08-10 22:15
Or should they? They would lose major points right? And they are like 15th rn so they really shouldnt?
2020-08-10 19:24
Well mate, i didnt say "Now Now". They could remove him at a later date. It looks like the major wont happen in Brazil, so, at the moment we dont even know what/where/how the major will be played tbh. But, you have to agree with me that ChrisJs performance have become worse past 5 years. Like i said above, he might be a great teammate and help to Karrigan, but there is way better options for Mouz to add if they want to climb even more in ranking.
2020-08-10 19:27
What do you think could chrisJ be IGL for GODSENT?
2020-08-10 20:22
...meh, i dont know tbh. At first i wasnt a big fan of kRYSTAL, but, hes impressed me a lot. I bet ChrisJ could be a very very good coach/analyst for a team in top 10-20. I believe when the day comes aka ChrisJ gets removed or leaves Mouz, he will: 1. retire and become coach 2. Just retire and maybe fulltime streamer, idk. 3. Create a Dutch team/lineup with talents from Netherlands and help them get out to T2-T1 scene, kinda like OCEAN, he helped Stewie2k, Twistzz, ELiGE to get a chance at playing decent level CS and then take the next step.
2020-08-10 20:32
I want to see him play still atleast tier2 cs for a year or two. I dont think he will retire yet but who knows
2020-08-10 23:34
+1 there is no point using bymas or anyone else right now instead of chrisj. mouz cannot lose any rmr points. i think they will use chrisj in rmr events and bymas everywhere else, just like ence does with xseven and jamppi.
2020-08-10 19:28
2020-08-10 19:29
i think bymas is a great pickup for mouz. he fits well for chris' roles. he played just pretty much olofs roles in faze, and i don't see him as same kind of player to olof.
2020-08-10 19:32
He is most likely going to be entry fragger and thats the best role for him if you ask me
2020-08-10 20:20
Yeah
2020-08-10 20:20
Yeah, Bymas isnt a bad player, hes still SUPER young. He could or will probably perform better in Mouz tbh.
2020-08-10 20:20
#12
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United Kingdom KaffeK
Chris will probably be dropped for Bymas, he's probably staying to help mentor and mold Bymas alongside karrigan
2020-08-10 19:26
Yeah, thats what i think as well if everything works out with Bymas
2020-08-10 19:28
you realise that mouz was #1 before csgo went to unrelevant online competition?
2020-08-10 19:27
And? ChrisJs performance still have been wack past 5 years, even if the team itself performs well and get to #1.
2020-08-10 19:29
Not true ChrisJ was a king on dust 2 and was crowned best scout player in the world.
2020-08-10 19:32
"Not true" Then have a look at the statistics.
2020-08-10 19:35
He doesn't have bad stats for his role . He does what he needs to do and when he get a chance he gets two of the best highlights ever.
2020-08-10 19:38
#23
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Netherlands Titanos
If the team performs, then he does his job.
2020-08-10 19:33
he has consistend 1.0 -1.05 lan rating every year. totally fine for his role
2020-08-10 19:49
Dude is the heart of mousespots, leave him there
2020-08-10 19:33
lol. No one should be safe from a kick. Let me guess, FalleN is the "heart of MIBR"?
2020-08-10 19:36
c'mon ChrisJ can do everything, dude can igl, awp, play entry, anchor or whatever
2020-08-10 19:39
dude can igl, awp, play entry, anchor or whatever IGL = Wack AWP = Meh Entry = Yeah sure Anchor = Ok Heres another thing: Maden can: AWP, Entry, Anchor and whatever. And he does it 5000 times better. Mouz doesnt need 2 IGLs.
2020-08-10 19:44
This is another dumb statement Can Maden do all that shit with a Deagle? Maden is a great player but he is the Entry-Fragger while Chris can lurk, entry, play baiter role, support. His versatility is insane. Frozen was not good at the beginning but he became a beast after Chris swaps role with him. His role is to unleash the young talents on the team, Young players need guidance when they are lost. Not to say that Chris have the ability to clutch crucial rounds
2020-08-10 19:54
"Can Maden do all that shit with a Deagle?" Huh? "Maden is a great player but he is the Entry-Fragger while Chris can lurk, entry, play baiter role, support. His versatility is insane." Maden can AWP, Anchor and entry. Karrigan can play supportive roles and entry roles. Ropz play lurker roles in Mouz, so can Frozen. So... "Young players need guidance when they are lost" Which is why the coach, IGL and psychologist etc exist in a esports team mate. Well, Frozen went from basically...T4 Czech-Slovakian team to Mouz, obviously you cant expect a young player to be a beast instantly.
2020-08-10 20:01
ChrisJ is the one who always use the worst gun Maden can only Entry at T-side, He is not a lurker, not support and not a baiter, and ChrisJ is not an Anchor for Mouz wdym Karrigan is the Entry so I don't understand the 'supportive roles' here. I said that the versatility of Chris allows the team to go for different gameplay during mid-round. Coach and Psychologist can't talk during mid-round and you expect the coach and psychologist guide them in-game? That is what they are doing, Woxic and Ropz got the maximum freedom to do what they want because Chris is supporting. Frozen went from NoChance to Mouz btw not a T4 Czech-Slovakian team
2020-08-10 20:07
Where did i say ChrisJ could play anchor? lol #31 said that. "Frozen went from NoChance to Mouz btw not a T4 Czech-Slovakian team" He went from T4 Czech-Slovakian team to NoChance then Mouz yes. But he was in NoChance for 2 months rofl? "Coach and Psychologist can't talk during mid-round and you expect the coach and psychologist guide them in-game?" No? I told you that they exist.
2020-08-10 20:10
You are the one who said Maden can Anchor LUL 2 months is nothing now? and I believe he stayed for more than 2 months Everyone knows they exist but they can't help too much during mid-round
2020-08-10 20:13
Yes? Maden can anchor? lol. You said: " and ChrisJ is not an Anchor for Mouz wdym" lol?! "2 months is nothing now? and I believe he stayed for more than 2 months" No he didnt: liquipedia.net/counterstrike/Frozen 2019-01-08 – 2019-03-14 "Everyone knows they exist but they can't help too much during mid-round" of course they cant, but, the psychologist can help outside the game/at events etc etc.
2020-08-10 20:16
#26
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Macau Be_Happier
Yes thats weird They can buy a decent rifler Who can replace Chris maybe with Bymas They start winning again we will see
2020-08-10 19:34
Because they want to lose obviously! or maybe... maybe theyre keeping him on because they consider him valuable to the team
2020-08-10 19:37
"maybe theyre keeping him on because they consider him valuable to the team" Well obviously? I mean, hes probably helping Karrigan with IGL:ing stuff/ideas etc. But, they have a good IGL and support player already. I mean, if Bymas play well they probably will add him permanently over ChrisJ.
2020-08-10 19:39
Because you don't know anything about their team and CSGO?
2020-08-10 19:44
ZzZzZz "Fan of Bot2k", another player that should be kicked.
2020-08-10 19:45
LOL wdym Stewie is the only player from NA who won Grand Slam and Major. That proves that you are dumb and don't know shit about CSGO tbh
2020-08-10 19:47
this guy only looks at the rating 2.0 but not the impact rating lmao. stewie is good player for his role in liquid
2020-08-10 19:52
Once again. I am not looking at statistics. You and Waka seem to only look at trophies lol.
2020-08-10 19:53
then you don't understand anything about roles. mouz has three superstars on the team. liquid has the same situation. there were 3 superstar players in liquid, now 4. no need for another crazy fragging player
2020-08-10 19:58
What else you want to look at? Liquid can't win a single tournament before adding stewie and they won Grand slam after adding him. Elige, Naf, and Twistzz became a better player because Stewie does all the bitch roles on the T-side. Results mean everything in competitive CS. Players don't get kick for having a poor rating but not winning anything
2020-08-10 19:58
I wouldnt exactly say that Twistzz became better, hes been pretty wack for a while now tbh. NAF and ELiGE yeah sure. "Players don't get kick for having a poor rating but not winning anything" Well duh, i know mate. Also, Mouz won something like...i believe its 6(?) months ago.
2020-08-10 20:03
Twistzz certainly became a better player. Oh, so someone should get kick if they don't win shit for 6 months without boot camping. I guess we should see roster change for 80% of the T1 teams then
2020-08-10 20:09
yeah, astralis didnt win anything in 2020 so maybe just drop the whole fucking roster cuz they suck and didnt win anything in OMG 8 months?!?
2020-08-10 20:23
hahaha True LOL and also don't forget about Faze, G2,OG, NIP, GODSENT, GENG, MIBR, and a lot of other teams
2020-08-10 20:26
karrigan trash IGL w0xic sometimes best awper in world, sometimes worst awper in world frozen also same, either GOD or BOT ropz always GOD chrisj tries to do things for team but trash teammates bymas meh kinda pretty decent kid, very overhyped. ALEX/lekr0 would have been better choice THEIR COACH - trash only he thing he does is shout wooooooooooo
2020-08-10 19:48
"ALEX/lekr0 would have been better choice" ALEX wants a flashpoint team Lekr0 is joining North. So.
2020-08-10 19:53
ALEX/lekr0 would have been better choice When you're that dude who doesn't watch fpl. Alex doesn't play fpl and he won't get t1 team cuz he want his whole family at events, and Lekr0 probably already signed somewhere. Bymas overhyped he has more hate that he jumped from fpl to t1 from all kidos who cry and want only old players.
2020-08-10 20:03
#41 Lekr0: dbltap.com/posts/north-lekr0-csgo-01ef27.. ALEX: Most likely will sign with a Flashpoint team, thats what he wants at least.
2020-08-10 20:08
dbltap.com/posts/lekr0-csgo-mad-lions-01.. He hasnt signed, its just in Discussions. Ofcourse he might sign NORTH, but he hasnt till yet. And I doubt it he will reject if mouz offers him. ALEX : He wants a team where he has to travel less. It doesnt mean it has to be FLASHPOINT team. And now with covid , I think he just wants to play since there are any travels either.
2020-08-10 20:16
hltv.org/news/30028/lekr0-to-mad-lions-d.. lol Hes most likely joining North. "ALEX : He wants a team where he has to travel less. It doesnt mean it has to be FLASHPOINT team. And now with covid , I think he just wants to play since there are any travels either." He himself stated a Flashpoint team is a team he wants. He doesnt want to travel all the time, he himself stated. Even if teams isnt traveling at this point and time they will still do it next year and forward.
2020-08-10 20:18
ALEX is willing to get less salary if they allow his family to come with him. Lekr0 hasnt signed, he might have gotten alot of offers but If mouz offers him, obv he wouldnt have denied it.
2020-08-10 20:16
Still no org wants players distracted but bringing whole family is another level.
2020-08-10 20:37
you mean why is frozen still in the team?
2020-08-10 19:56
This thread is retarded, Stay silver.
2020-08-10 20:09
Could not Agree more and he is pretending like he is not looking at the stats only
2020-08-10 20:10
Which im not? Im looking at the whole picture. There is better players to add over ChrisJ, even if the player would do the same roles as ChrisJ. Tell me Sherlock, what are you looking at then? What hes buying each round? How his economy in-game looks like? lol.
2020-08-10 20:14
I am too tired for this I wasted so much time explaining some common sense to a retard, I guess I am the real retard here Let's see if there is anyone else who willing to explain
2020-08-10 20:17
1. Reported for silly insults. 2. You are telling me i am looking at stats, which is not true, i am looking at the bigger picture. ChrisJ most likely will be kicked. When? I dont know, but it will happen, if he doesnt step down himself and retire at a later date.
2020-08-10 20:21
I insulted myself there. I hope I get ban for insulting myself then.
2020-08-10 20:23
Uhm? You insulted me and you, yes? No need to insult me. If you want to insult yourself then...i guess do that, lol.
2020-08-10 20:25
#69
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32
It's a respectable opinion to have but honestly I think ChrisJ is very underrated in terms of his individual skill. He is adept at every role and is a very dynamic player -- A good rock to have for the team.
2020-08-10 20:18
He will be like: He is having a negative rating! and there are lots of better players out there!
2020-08-10 20:23
Finally someone that doesnt agree with me but still keeps it "civil" i guess you can call it lol. Well, imo there is better options for them, ChrisJ is also "very old" (I guess you understand). I mean, if we take an example, if they added Maden they would: 1. Get better firepower 2. A VERY good AWP duo Yeah sure, they would lose a player that plays the "shit roles" in the team, but, tbh, this is something Karrigan could do and Maden can obviously play entry.
2020-08-10 20:25
#98
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32
Yeah I can understand the points you made. As for the trolls who took your intelligently typed out thread out of context, I can only apologise. Believe me, I know how you feel. My threads usually lead the same way. :D
2020-08-11 00:46
the answer is quite simple -cj = -20% rmr points so after rmr he will be kicked
2020-08-10 20:26
They cant atleast do it right now cuz like 70% people will be mad that he got replaced by bymas
2020-08-10 20:34
#92
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Lithuania Edze
I think nukkye was way better choise when Bymas, hes 2nd awper and good rifler, in 2020 he was carrying hellraisers pretty good whit 1.14 rating and 72% maps whit 1+ rating, well see how Bymas fits in mouz and what role he will play, im very hyped since my fav player and biggest country prodigy will play in same team ^^
2020-08-10 20:40
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