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Most overrated #1 ever?
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United States LULW_KEKW 
BIG imo. /discuss
2020-08-17 19:24
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Poland Amirek
If by overrated you mean people overrating them then surely BIG. If you mean overrated by rankings (undeserved top 1) then no, BIG is deserved top 1 at the moment
2020-08-17 19:26
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United States LULW_KEKW
Are they really #1 tho? If they played on LAN right now would they be overdogs vs navi, liquid, fnatic etc? Would the betting odds really favor them? I doubt.
2020-08-17 19:28
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Why does that even matter what would be on LAN? There is no LAN atm. So they clearly are the number one and deserve it
2020-08-17 19:29
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#27
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Brazil renatorib
+1
2020-08-17 19:39
definitely over navi and fnatic, liquid maybe not because they have so much firepower, but vitality/g2/faze are pretty close to big
2020-08-17 19:34
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faze close to BIG?.... they havent even gotten a map against them in 5 bo3s
2020-08-17 19:39
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Big can easily beat faze but in terms of overall ranking faze is not far behind, they just get hard countered by big
2020-08-20 02:18
Shitquid is trash online,but also trash on LAN
2020-08-17 19:36
#6
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France FanchD
+1
2020-08-17 19:28
big trash onliners
2020-08-17 19:26
#3
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Brazil sakaaa
that's gotta be NAVI. i feel they didn't achieved #1, but they were gifted with it. this sucks, because navi should be one of the best teams with this line up :(
2020-08-17 19:27
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Its because of online
2020-08-17 19:27
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#7
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Brazil sakaaa
I don't agree with this.
2020-08-17 19:28
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Flamie said himself in an interview. But now theyre at bootcamp so I believe they will do fine
2020-08-17 19:30
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lol flamie only speaks cheeseburger, you didnt hear him say this. If the words kebab and now and idk, just fix the fucking hot sause werent said, it was not flamie. #youhearditherefirst
2020-08-17 19:44
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monkaW
2020-08-17 19:45
#45
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Brazil sakaaa
oh, i thought you meant rankings not their personal performance.. yeah, this could influence their results.
2020-08-17 20:14
They earned that no. 1 spot by wrecking every other team they met, so respect NaVi ffs
2020-08-17 19:29
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#14
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Brazil sakaaa
I do respect them. And by respecting it that I think this is less than they can achieve.
2020-08-17 19:31
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That's nice, but saying they were gifted that #1 spot is kinda disrespectful
2020-08-17 19:35
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#44
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Brazil sakaaa
I don't think so. In order to be eligible for such gift, you need to be at least the #2 and this by itself is a major achievement. My opinion is based on the fact that I feel that the way they achieved #1 was not solely because they were the best team, but it happen in part because of the fall of others. There's a reason why they didn't kept #1.
2020-08-17 20:05
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We don't have to agree on everything - it's ok with different opinions. Think we both agree they did well on lan and not so well online. They beat the crap out of Astralis, who had won against almost every other team (except CoL). NaVi fell off when corona hit and the scene went from lan to online. In online scene, BIG has ruled the last two month or so - not by winning any of the important tournaments except DH Masters Spring - but minor tournaments and it's online - it's not the same when they can have coaches igl'ing and have on the fly assistance from analysts. Lan is the best format and NaVi came out of that on top.
2020-08-17 20:57
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#47
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Brazil sakaaa
this is in part the reason why i feel that navi's current state is not the best they can do, hehe. as for big, well.. they did beat everyone along the way, so i have nothing more to say about that hehe.. thanks for the talk bud
2020-08-17 20:59
0/8
2020-08-17 21:00
does anyone takes this shitty online based ranking seroiusly? big has to prove themselfs on lan if they wanna be considered as deserved top 1 team. they are fluke for now
2020-08-17 19:30
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#54
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United States LULW_KEKW
Exactly
2020-08-17 21:18
team - BIG player - Zywho
2020-08-17 19:30
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Flair
2020-08-17 19:44
+1
2020-08-17 21:00
1. BIG 2. LULQUID
2020-08-17 19:31
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#23
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United States LULW_KEKW
0/8 Liquid was no doubt #1 at some point....
2020-08-17 19:36
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#37
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Romania sky27
flair and flag checks out
2020-08-17 19:49
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#39
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United States LULW_KEKW
Stop baiting, they were actually #1
2020-08-17 19:50
na'vi big
2020-08-17 19:31
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#52
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Finland Lupuu
+1
2020-08-17 21:04
tbh i didnt want big to become #1 because jerman but im enjoying their era and i like watching them tbf, more interesting than other fraud's like navi and eg being #1
2020-08-17 19:33
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#22
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United States LULW_KEKW
Era xD
2020-08-17 19:35
Your name has 0 logic
2020-08-17 19:45
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NA>RUSSIA)))
2020-08-17 19:46
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USA+Canada population = 380 million Russian population = 140 million USA and Canada has more money than Russia
2020-08-17 19:48
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Kazachstan less population and money than russia but they have a major
2020-08-17 19:55
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They got win only because Ukrainian IGL No Zeus no Kazakhstan Also Kazakhstan has same money as Russia
2020-08-17 20:04
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Pakistan XtraticX
Agreed
2020-08-17 19:33
#20
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Poland JKG
G2 for sure or maybe NIP with pyth
2020-08-17 19:34
covid never end. Big number 1 forever
2020-08-17 19:38
wdym by overrated? If u mean rankings then no. They are literally the best online team at the moment. Ofc since LAN events will be back BIG won't be even top 10 since half of the BIG players are onliners. Astralis, NaVi, G2 or FaZe will get to the #1 spot for sure.
2020-08-17 19:43
Navi Big is a close second
2020-08-17 19:43
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0/8
2020-08-17 21:01
g2
2020-08-17 19:50
Liquid, always has been underwhelming, sometimes twistzz hits a lucky streak of headshots but anyway he’s just a poorman’s xantares
2020-08-17 19:51
G2 and navi
2020-08-17 19:53
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#53
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Finland Lupuu
G2 underrated
2020-08-17 21:04
#51
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Finland Lupuu
Astralis or Navi
2020-08-17 21:01
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#55
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United States LULW_KEKW
I don't know about astralis dude.... they played really well
2020-08-17 21:19
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#57
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Finland Lupuu
Ye but they were overrated. If Astralis lose 1 tournament every1 be like ”Astralis era over?”
2020-08-17 22:53
Navi
2020-08-17 21:19
Complexity
1.42
Cloud9
2.77
Liquid
1.54
MAD Lions
2.49
FURIA
1.36
North
3.05
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