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COACH BUG BANS and what about the players?
Russia boomboomd 
Player should be banned as well. Here is a s1mple argument why: Furia coach made a video, where he shows TeamSpeak communication and more, so if he doesn't get banned, it it because his team didn't use the information gained by the bug, right? youtu.be/W0qwkRoBvwA ---------------------- SOOO, all the coaches that got banned are banned because THE PLAYERS was using the information GAINED BY THE BUG, NO? SOOO, WHY ARE THEY PLAYERS NOT BANNED? DOES IT REALLY MATTER IF THEY KNEW OR NO? NO IT DOESN"T. -------------------------- e.g 1. You play on faceit with your friend. Your friend is cheating and get banned. What happens next? YOU ARE GETTING BANNED AS WELL, FOR PLAYING WITH A CHEATER. 2. You play with your friend on matchmaking. Your friend is cheating and giving you information where the players are. You use this information to kill enemies. WHAT HAPPENS? YOU ARE GETTING OVERWATCH BANNED FOR CHEATING... ----------------------------------- NO ONE FCKING ASK YOU IF YOU KNEW OR NO, JESUSS... THEY ALL SHOULD BE BANNED STRAIGH AWAY. ----------------------------------- What will people tell you after you got ban on faceit by playing with a cheater or OVERWATCH ban by playing with a cheater? OBVIOUSLY, THEY WILL TELL YOU IT'S YOUR FAULT, THAT YOU CHOOSE TO PLAY WITH CERTAIN PERSON, EVEN IF YOU DIDN'T KNEW, IT DOESN'T FCKING MATTER ----------------------------------- So, it's the organization and the players that choose to play with certain COACH. It's their fault and no one else. PLAYERS SHOULD BE BANNED FOR THE SAME AMOUNT OF TIME THAT COACH WAS. --------------------------------- THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME.
2020-09-05 13:29
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Furia coach is not banned right now, like the others that are stepping forward because their cases are under study, bans will come eventually.
2020-09-05 13:30
ok, but players should be banned as well.
2020-09-05 13:34
Why not ban the whole scene
2020-09-05 13:35
If you can't prove they know, they shouldn't be banned. If they think some players were aware, they should open a deeper investigation, the thing is that I don't think they have the comms saved, so it's gonna be hard to know that for sure. Even with the comms that some coaches are uploading just to show they are not guilty, can be faked, so...
2020-09-05 13:38
they should be banned even if they didn't know... IF they used the information gained by the BUG.
2020-09-05 13:38
They are going to lose points of those tournaments and money prizes. I think that's enough punishment if you can't prove they knew. We don't know if coaches were saying "last one is on bathrooms on the left corner" or "I studied their demos and the last one always hides on bathrooms, push there together". Plus, if they only used for some rounds from time to time, it can be hard to tell if he knows more than he should. That's what all the legit hackers do on mm, use hacks on pistol rounds and last rounds, so if someone gives you 4 headshots on first round because of aimhack it will look like coincidence if later he doesn't maintain that number of 100%hs, plus if you use it on pistol rounds is like that round worth "double" so you get a nice advantage and no one is gonna report you.
2020-09-05 14:04
What you are saying is just utter nonsense.
2020-09-05 13:34
it's not. The fact is, THE PLAYERS were using informations, that they never should got. If you commit the crime, even if you didn't know you are doing something wrong, you are still guilty, no? They were using information, gained by the BUG, doesn't really matter if they knew that the information is coming from the bug or no.
2020-09-05 13:45
The first fact is that you have no facts that players knew it. It's just your assumption.
2020-09-05 13:43
bro, you are serious problems with reading. Even if they didn't know, doesn't fcking matter IF they used the information gained by the BUG.
2020-09-05 13:45
It's your problem you need to edit your comments after I answer.
2020-09-05 13:46
what are you talking about, your answer was not pointing out anything from my preedited comment.
2020-09-05 13:47
Even if you will find shaky moments there, you can't expose them 'til it's proved by the players themselves.
2020-09-05 13:49
It really depends if the players or people commiting the crime, can be proven to have handled in bad faith
2020-09-05 13:48
if the coach will get banned and other that used it won't, it is the proof itself. If furia coach won't get banned it is because the players wasn't gaining any additional information from him, that came from the bug. So if the coach is banned it is because he gave his players additional information that came from the BUG. So all the coaches that get banned gave certain players from certain teams, an additional information that came from the BUG. So these players, were using CHEATED INFORMATION in their games.
2020-09-05 13:51
+1 ban f0rest and gtr
2020-09-05 13:34
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Sweden kewz
ban mibr
2020-09-05 13:49
Are you still mad about the fact that BIG did nothing wrong?
2020-09-05 13:51
i have inside info that they did xD, it's just not annonced yet. It will be at 13 September.
2020-09-05 13:52
Honestly when you get info from the coach, you don't doubt it and assume he got it from legit infos. If he didn't cheat, he might have noticed something the players didn't or were too focused on firing duels when someone made a sound. Of course maybe they looked at his monitor and knew he was using it, but for some it might just say to them his game crashed and he gets the info from other people's monitor. So I would not ban all the players from teams with cheating coaches because some of them legit might not have known about it, especially with some players playing from home or one player rooms like in Complexity gaming house. As Valve said you have too little evidence of them knowing of their coaches abuse, although a lot have probably known about it and abused it along with the coach.
2020-09-05 13:53
ofc, they knew, but let's play in their game. Lets pretend they didn't. STILL DOESNT FCKING MATTER JESUS... They cheated anyway, even if they didn't know they are cheating, they still did.
2020-09-05 14:19
ye .. lets ban all top coaches and ban players aswell xD 10IQ ppl . they would destroy CSGO toatally
2020-09-05 13:55
they players cheated, even if they didn't know they are cheating, they still did.
2020-09-05 13:59
okkk.. BAN NIP,MOUZ,TRICKED,MIBR,HEROIC,MAD LIONS and other top teams xD imagine
2020-09-05 14:01
they are cheaters. Do you really want cheaters to be able to play on the highest level? How does that help the game?
2020-09-05 14:06
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