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France Des_Moines Excuse me if im being stupid but i dont really see this as a massive problem
2020-09-08 10:16
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2020-09-08 10:16
France Des_Moines
2020-09-08 10:56
2020-09-08 11:37
flair checks out, but -1
2020-09-08 16:02
wtf :(
2020-09-08 16:02
2020-09-08 19:48
France Des_Moines
Cry xdddd
2020-09-08 19:52
2020-09-15 21:37
heavy that la
2020-09-08 10:17
Switzerland retard2k
because leftists have brainwashed people into thinking that people better off are the problem
2020-09-08 10:18
true, this is whats wrong with the current world, filled with losers that think someone elses wealth is the reason they cant get rich aswell
2020-09-08 10:20
2020-09-08 11:12
2020-09-08 12:33
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Ireland Sodaking
2020-09-08 19:56
+1 wealth distribution is shit
2020-09-08 20:01
well, if it was that simple economics wouldn't even exist as a field of study. Trickle down economics is a well known joke.
2020-09-09 07:29
Portugal eilzinho
Literally no one argues in favour of trickle down economics in the 21st century
2020-09-09 20:14
I wouldn't be so sure about that.
2020-09-10 01:59
France Des_Moines
Yeah i kinda hate that 1% argument, the 1%ers are the people supplying the working/middle class citizens with jobs and are supplying products for not only the us but the rest of the world too
2020-09-08 10:21
but take amazon for instance, they basically pay no taxes (in germany) and treat their workforce like shit. not to mention thousands of businesses that go bankrupt because of them. there is two sides to every story.
2020-09-08 12:34
ye but that 1% isnt some benevolent force here to make the world a better place. They are (for profit) constantly trying to find loopholes to keep as much wealth as possible in their pockets and as little in the workers. This means that without some government interference they are free to abuse us. Minimum wage, corporate tax etc needs to be regulated heavily and the thing is, it usually isnt.
2020-09-08 12:39
ok so?
2020-09-08 20:01
There is more stagnant wealth in the hands of the top 1% of Europe, China and NA than the combined debts of the entire world. Imagine how much better off literally every single person would be if that wealth was actually used
2020-09-15 22:31
ok life isnt fair get over it
2020-09-16 03:20
+1 People also forget, that accumulation of wealth is not linear, it is exponential. If you earn twice as much as somebody, and you both lead the same lifestyle, you will be able to e.g. save 75% of your income, while the other guy will only be able to save 50% of his. So the savings will be 2*0.75 and 1*0.5, which is 1.5 vs 0.5 Despite earning twice as much, you can save 3 times as much money -> being able to invest more faster -> accumulate more wealth quicker.
2020-09-08 22:40
2020-09-08 10:59
Lol. Another retard happy to pay more taxes than necessary to defend billionaires?
2020-09-09 20:12
Yugoslavia m0rkTFH
It's funny how leftwingers always "brainwash" people, while rightwingers or simply "capitalist rightists" just do what's better for their country and the world. The truth is only one tho: socialism is the solution to any problem. But, of course, being you a rich white rightwinger, denying that is the interest of your life.
2020-09-09 20:47
20% earn 2k$ per month which is not very good
2020-09-08 10:21
France Des_Moines Heres actually another article i found about the 20%ers
2020-09-08 10:23
first of the month is crazy in grocery stores because of WIC and food stamps
2020-09-08 10:36
You understand that is a lobby promoting low taxation right?
2020-09-08 14:29
Germany ppgod_
"The high consumption of America’s “poor” doesn’t mean they live better than average people in the nations they outpace, like Spain, Denmark, Japan, Greece, and New Zealand."
2020-09-08 19:40
France Des_Moines
I k n o w Alot of people say 20% of americans are living in poverty when thats just not the case since oecd uses relativ poverty as a measurment Freedomtunee actually made a video about this claim i think you should check it out
2020-09-08 19:46
yeah, pretty bs. Even making 1k a month doesn't mean a shit life in the US. I live in the midwestand you can get a 1k sqr. ft. apartment in a nice area around me for $500 dollars a month. if you are in a relationship or it has 2 bedrooms, you split the cost. If you buy food in bulk for a month you can eat tasty food every day for around $100 a month. I'm talking eggs, chicken, bacon, spagetti, basically whatever you want. That is $400 for gas, insurance, having fun every month. Not even close to poverty imo.
2020-09-09 07:22
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Denmark V1tus
i aren't click that
2020-09-08 10:23
France Des_Moines
Thanks for the bump
2020-09-08 10:24
I hate minorities aka rich white people
2020-09-08 10:26
France Des_Moines
Well the majority of white people in the US are considerd "rich" by other oecd countries so i dont really think there a minority
2020-09-08 10:50
im talking about like billionaires and shit
2020-09-09 09:50
You know where hating rich people got the USSR to... literal starvation.
2020-09-16 21:12
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2020-09-08 10:58
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Finland Hassu
(((rich white people)))
2020-09-08 19:25
I agree. Especially when our poorbois are still steady flexxing on most other nations
2020-09-08 10:26
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Denmark JKTP
It's a bad measurement, as it doesn't look very bad. You should look at Gini instead were america does the worst in the western world by FAR. Currently nearly 50 million americans live in poverty
2020-09-08 10:31
France Des_Moines
Oh my god not this poverty arguement that i hear all the damn time And gini coefficiant just measures the income inequallity in the country, your acting as if 50% of the population making 50-200k+ a year is a negative especially when the poorest 20% in the united states live better than the middle class in numerous oecd countries
2020-09-08 10:49
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Denmark JKTP
America is the country with the 5th highest gdp per capita. Yet it cannot give basic human needs in western countries. Poverty in America is 10-15 times higher than it is in country number 6 on the list Denmark. Why is there such a large difference between black and white people? Again the list is misleading, many european countries are poor, Very very poor. Have you seen the gdp per capita of Albania or Montenegro or belarus or romania and so on. It's also measured in Consumption... not income? Very mysterious. It's statistic manipulation. Just as an example of how retarded it is it says this "a Department of Agriculture study found that US households receiving food stamps spend about 50 percent more on sweetened drinks, desserts, and candy than on fruits and vegetables" NO SHIT, when soft drinks and unhealthy food is much cheaper in America. This is why obesity is such a big problem in America. I also have bigger problems with it, this is from a trustworthy source "The Federal Reserve reported the median value of stock ownership by income group for 2016: Bottom 20% own $5,800" hmmmm "In 2019, the median wealth per adult in Japan amounted to approximately 110.4 thousand U.S. dollars." So they manage to consume more than someone that has on average 22 times as much money. That's... interesting. it is negative that 50% of the country is making that much, because they pay less in taxes than the ones below (Corporation bailout) is an example of America benefitting the rich. Sure it's good they make a lot of money, but it's bad that the money is going to the wealthy.
2020-09-08 11:10
Russia lpz126
Yes Americans should cut its enormous military spendings and spend the money on improving their own people’s welfare. So we Russia and China could easily expand their territories in Europe and Asia. Probably one of the saddest thing happen to America is joining WW2, they should make great deals with Germany and Japan, so today we can watch Danes learn how to speak German or prob even Russian
2020-09-08 12:12
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Denmark JKTP
America spends the same amount of money as the next 8 countries combined, 6 of which are it's allies. Russia cannot get any control of the EU passed Belarus and Ukraine has they are in the EU and are much much wealthier than Russia (pr. person). Did you know Japan has 3.5 times the GDP that russia does? Who are they allied with. China is actually gaining a lot of power but expanding the military doesn't change that in fact it would help them. China recently offered 200 billion dollars to Iran so they could improve living conditions. What did they have to do? Well just let china influence the country and help them if war breaks out. it's such a far-right bullshit argument that buffing military spending is gonna change anything. It makes countries afraid of you and force them to join China when you are the world policeman and bully all non-western countries. America only uses it's big army to steal oil money so they can make even more money.
2020-09-08 12:29
Russia lpz126
Hahaha what an ignorant Marxist, let’s see what’s gonna happen if US completely revokes its military presence what’s gonna happen? Hahaha I remember decades ago you Danes didn’t even manage to survive 1 day under Nazi invasion, meme country? Hahaha
2020-09-08 13:05
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Denmark JKTP
Marxist.... that shows how uneducated you are as Marx believed in a very strong state and large military. Unfortunately i am not a communist but a realist.
2020-09-08 13:44
Russia lpz126
Haha realist as new commie undercover nowadays, too bad realists you mind is really weak that if you are in a horror movie, you gonna be the first one to die
2020-09-08 16:05
they just like to pull the commie card
2020-09-09 06:41
Turkey TheKaiser
Argument isn't about revoking it completely, they just don't have to spend as the next 8 countries combined. America isn't protecting Western world from aliens, they're protecting them from an invasion by "Russia and China" which can't even reach anywhere near US' Defence Budget.
2020-09-15 22:48
France Des_Moines
2020-09-08 19:19
Stop spreading lies. You are what is wrong with this world.
2020-09-15 23:05
yeah that was a blatant lie from me rich people pay around 60% of the taxes in the US despite making up 1% of the population
2020-09-16 00:22
Yugoslavia m0rkTFH
+1 Danes are too wise for this U.S./Putin shit here
2020-09-09 20:55
Canada sad_face
Article from 2010. Greece ahead of Sweden or UK... nice source.
2020-09-08 14:37
United States m0rtyy
you do know that F E E, the place you are getting you information from, has received money from Charles Koch, a billionaire businessman? and they have ties with him? no shit they have these opinions.
2020-09-16 18:50
Never understood the hatred towards rich people. Yes, they might pay more taxes but still at the end most of the billionaires didn't steal their money but they earned it. Totally different to the billionaires in Eastern Europe.
2020-09-08 10:58
France Des_Moines
Ikr not to mention alot of those billionares are suplying jobs for the working class and products for not onoy americans but the rest of the world too
2020-09-08 11:00
For me, there's a coordinated attack towards American tech industry because that's where most of the billionaires in USA made their money. Those big companies like Apple, Microsoft, Oracle attract a lot of smart people from all around the world - a literal nightmare for the Governments around the world - I mean who wants to lose their smartest people.
2020-09-08 11:02
idk the things the elite does behind closed doors like the clintons and shit is pretty sketch
2020-09-08 11:02
Everyone knows that Hillary Clinton is one evil woman. She married Bill just because he was famous and she used him to get into politics as well.
2020-09-08 11:03
bill is an evil man as well, it's insane to me that she both defends and stays with an actual rapist
2020-09-08 11:05
Austria MisterMand
Wrong and ignorant... don't even know where to start. 1. Inequality does not go away because the 1% "earned" it. Inequality is about opportunites, class mobility, access to certain goods (example: health care...), rights. 2. Many of the top wealthiest families inherited, not earned it. They did nothing for their fortune except be born. 3. Wealthy people have since decades manufactured politics in the US to act in their favour, which is why taxes on wealth are the lowest they have ever been. 4. CEOs earn more than ever, while the average salary stagnates since 60 years. 5. The investment market or capital market which was once smaller than the real market grew 5-10 times bigger since the 80s or 90s. This market is a place where the wealthiest of the wealthiest increase their wealth and absurdly high rates - the little man can't hope to ever compete. Inequality is there because the rich and wealthy get everything and we get NOTHING. In an "equal" scenario the workers would also benefit from the market, from the uproar, from the "booming" economy - a term that likes to be thrown around as if it was some sort blessing for everyone. But the only ones that win in a "booming" economy are CEOs and those who are already incredibly wealthy.
2020-09-08 11:20
France Des_Moines
Wrong and ignorant...dont even know where to start 1.2 20% of rich people in the us inherited their wealth 3.wealthy people also create numerous jobs and advancements for people accors the world, alot of the products your using right now (including hltv) are from people with massive amounts of money ALSO rich people pay nearly 60% of all taxes in the US and lowering taxes for the rich did literally nothing 4. 5.the rich get richer so do the poorer, the average "poor" persons living standard in the states is similair to how the average middle class american lived in thr 1960-1970's "Poor" people dont get nothing there living standards and wealth have increased drasticly
2020-09-08 19:28
chill down ben shapiro u just rekt him
2020-09-08 20:09
Austria MisterMand
ummm no
2020-09-08 21:15
Austria MisterMand
You ignored most of what I said and just repeated yourself. Great way to admit you are wrong from the start. "rich people pay 60% taxes" are you pulling statistics out of your ass cuz you have 0 arguments? no they fucking dont. Rich pay less taxes than ever: and in this chart you can see individual incomes make up for the MAJORITY of tax income in the US: the US collects 2.5-3 trillion in taxes a year, but about 400 billion of potential tax income is lost YEARLY due to tax evasion. an old study by the IRS showed about 1 dollar for every 6 dollars gets lost due to tax evasion: which has obviously increased since then. The extremely wealthy pay less taxes than ever : So what was your other point again? Hurr durr job opportunities? Of course big corporations need to employ people to work. But most workers often work at minimum wage, barely making a living in a world that gets continuously more expensive and often have to work in slave like conditions : just google Tesla or Amazon working conditions and see for yourself. Corporations also get treated like people by the US government and get bailed out when a financial crisis hits, but average Joe has to fucking close his book store cuz noone will help him and banks now have to take his house because he couldn't pay off the mortgage. Inventions? What does that have to do with fucking anything? We are talking about social inequality. Good inventions or products don't justify the stagnating worker incomes, the government turning blind to tax evasion of billion dollar companies, the ever increasing wealth gap, the unaffordable health care and and and. You are incredibly naive boy.
2020-09-08 22:23
France Des_Moines
You ignored most of what I said and just repeated yourself. Great way to admit you are wrong from the start. ??????????? EVERY DAMN JOB IS OWNED BY THE 1% THERE LITERALLY PROVIDING A LIVING FOR PEOPLE WHAT IN THE WORLD DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND ABOUT THIS,
2020-09-08 23:51
Austria MisterMand
You ignored most of what I said and just repeated yourself. Great way to admit you are wrong from the start. #87 WHAT IN THE WORLD DO YOU NOT UNDERSTAND ABOUT THIS,
2020-09-09 12:10
France Des_Moines
1. #89 2. Doesnt matter if there literally providing a living for people in the world, literally every job of every quality is owned by a 1%er
2020-09-09 17:19
Okay, I got it. Inequality, white collar crime, injustice, destroying the earth, undermining democracy, manipulating politics etc etc all does not matter because they provide jobs. Nice world view bro.
2020-09-09 20:11
Fair! Now lets have all the 1%ers shut down their businesses as have millions lose there jobs and become homesless!!!1!1!1
2020-09-09 22:28
Said noone ever.
2020-09-09 22:53
2020-09-15 20:13
2020-09-15 21:38
Its funny how you think that the 1% is somehow "providing" for the rest. All those jobs would still exist if you wiped out all of that 1% people? What you are explaining is that 99% of the people are providing a portion of the wealth they are creating to just 1% and even a smaller group of that 1%, basically just a small group of people. These companies have tax deals so that is again just money transfered from the public to the owners pocket. In capitalism the idea of profits come from the possible risk, in these large corporations there is no more risk, as they are always bailed out by tax payers. The system is completely broken for the benefit of a few billionaires, that have made average people who are never going to be rich support this idea for them. Greatest scam of all time. Hint: There are free market capitalism that also works, its not communism to say that this system is fucked up and it is fucking most of the people hard in the ass.
2020-09-15 23:17
France Des_Moines
The top 1 percent paid a greater share of individual income taxes (37.3 percent) than the bottom 90 percent combined (30.5 percent).
2020-09-08 23:52
Right, and still their contribution is only 37% of ~60% of the total tax income of the US, or in other words, a measly 20% or something. Yet they have more wealth than the majority of the US combined and their wealth increases substantially each year, as opposed to the "wealth" of the average american. Read #85 and #60 again because you clearly didn't.
2020-09-09 20:19
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Denmark JKTP
List of things rich americans do bad - bribe President and presidential election to make sure they keep getting favorable treatment (Corporation bailouts) - (Income tax from 35 to 21%) - Tax fraud which is a massive problem. Out of 100 different companies measured in tax pay looking at how much they payed and how much they should have payed, 30% of companies payed equal or more to what was needed. (Microsoft, Oracle and Facebook) while 70% of other companies did not (Apple, Amazon, Disney, Netflix....) Amazon managed to pay 0 dollars in tax. - About 21% of american billionaires inherited there wealth (He shouldn't pay tax when he earned it)¨ - Rich americans are by far the part of the population that polutes the most - Superiority complex is by far the largest among the richest And so on
2020-09-08 11:26
France Des_Moines
1. Ok 2. Rich people pay more than half of the taxes in the us but ok 3.ok? 4. Also the part of the population that creates numerous jobs snd advancements for everyone 5.ok?
2020-09-08 19:31
1. This is not important? Ok. It just means the rich can do pretty much whatever they like 2. Not true, or i guess that depends on who is the rich in America. But it doesn't really matter because obviously they should. It doesn't matter what country you are in the rich are gonna pay the most... as they have the most money. What i said was they werent playing what they should. It doesn't matter how much they do pay as long as they don't pay enough 3. American liberalism believes that if you have money you earned it, and shouldn't pay your good money to other. Yet this is stupid for 21% of billionaires when they were born with a silver spoon feeding them 4. This also does not matter, the state can easily cover those jobs if needed. It however matters that they are ruining the planet making my future bleak. It is never excusable to destroy the planet because of "more jobs" 5. Rich people just are more often cunts. Not that there aren't nice people that are rich. But humans by nature are greedy and seek power that's why some people let that get to them and feel special or better than others.
2020-09-10 08:39
Most billionaires have and actively screw over thousands of people, especially manufacturers. Most western billionaires actively exploit third world countries.
2020-09-08 19:23
France Des_Moines
1. Whats your job 2. What computer are you using 3. What food are you eating
2020-09-08 19:29
i think i know where this is going, but relevance?
2020-09-08 19:30
I think he is saying we are benefitting from these billionaires regardless of their moral standing
2020-09-08 20:10
yea that's my guess terrible argument regardless lol
2020-09-09 00:19
Yeah they might screwed thousands of people but they made life better for the majority so its actually a valid point if you look at it in a different point of view
2020-09-09 06:32
no its not.
2020-09-09 20:37
2020-09-15 20:09
nah. #31 #87
2020-09-15 21:36
2020-09-15 21:48
#124 /closed
2020-09-15 21:49
/open this isnt going anywhere /closed
2020-09-15 21:50
Because you ignore everything I say and just double down on your simplistic world view, which I already commented on in #100
2020-09-15 22:01
They aren't screwing anyone over. It's basic capitalism. You take the job because you think they overvalue you for the job, and they hire you because they undervalue you so they can turn a profit. It's really very simple. If people think they're worth more for a particular job, go get it. A billionaire is not trying to screw people over. They need good workers, they just know what the market says they're worth. And so should the person taking the job. One way good companies offset undervaluing people is with other value propositions - retirement funds, healthcare benefits, paid time off, etc. People act like the pie is fixed and somehow if a billionaire takes 5%, that means they can't get that part of it. The pie grows with production. Things are unequal, but that's fair.
2020-09-09 06:51
They actively bribe politicians to remove competition, deregulate to lower costs, destroy unions, import millions of low skilled immigrants for cheap labor, and the list goes on.
2020-09-09 20:14
at least one american with some sense in this thread.
2020-09-09 20:38
Ah, I see. So now we have invisible bribery happening from billionaires to try and keep other people from making money? I can agree that there is the downside the billionaires can remove competition and that can lead to anti-trust issues, however if you research a lot of mergers it has been substantially beneficial for workers so you've got explain your position more. De-regulation for the most part is good. There's a trade-off with consumer education and other risks but it's not some black and white, yes, no decision point. Unions are garbage; I can't even begin to go into the numerous ways in which unions are actually more harmful for workers. There are countless studies about how unions actually suppress individual pay for the collective. If you believe in collectivism, then I can see your argument. I believe in individualism and think it's ridiculous to tie someone's equity in anyway to others. And I have yet to hear a compelling argument for why that should be done because it doesn't provide income protection as an example. Not sure what you're getting at with the low skilled immigrant labor piece. If you're talking about offshoring, that's a problem. But a lot of that is policy driven. I'm not going to fault a company for offshoring if the labor is cheaper and makes better financial sense for the company. It's not like billionaires wake up every morning thinking, hmmm, how can I take away money from my workers so I can keep it. They want to maximize returns for investors in their company so they can continue to grow. Which comes back to my original point. I'm willing to listen, but you've got to explain your points in more detail.
2020-09-09 21:27
Turkey TheKaiser
Do you think a billionaire works more than a fire fighter who saves lives? Or does being a billionaire makes you spend more of your energy than doctors do with saving lives? Not saying being a billionaire is a crime, I'm just saying that a human being doesn't need +150 Billion USD, it's more than enough to feed an entire family tree for centuries.
2020-09-15 22:52
Those poor lickers kinda deserve that shit tbh 😂😂😂
2020-09-08 11:03
France Des_Moines
2020-09-08 11:04
2020-09-08 11:08
Based on a four-person household in the United States, earning less than 23,492 U.S. dollars annually would put a family under the poverty threshold. Some 24.4 million households currently live under 25,000 U.S. dollars per year From your source.
2020-09-08 11:10
I've got no problem with this since i am a dj that earns 32/month and have italiean model girlfriend
2020-09-08 11:20
Russia lpz126
Oh gosh respect here from Russia, I really hate when some ppl from Europe (especially northern part) whose country is smaller than mosquitoes shit and so weak that have to live under US military protection to survive to talk shit about US with a sense of superiority, US should just leave these countries who don’t like US alone and let them play with Russia, oh American brothers, I promise when we teach them some serious lessons, these ignorant shit will cry like babies and lick your boots again
2020-09-08 12:23
2020-09-08 13:08
ur honestly proud of being a shithole?
2020-09-08 13:09
Who's living under USA military protection may I ask?
2020-09-08 14:31
Faroe Islands maybe
2020-09-08 14:39
no, us danish protect them :)
2020-09-08 14:42
France Des_Moines
0/8 faroe islands is an american state 😎👌
2020-09-08 19:51
Russia lpz126
Who surrendered within six weeks decades ago and had to cry to let Yankees rescue them?
2020-09-08 16:00
2020-09-08 18:00
Biggest bait today
2020-09-08 14:43
France Des_Moines
2020-09-08 19:29
if it sounds like a bait but isnt, what does that tell you about the person?
2020-09-09 20:39
It's not about households, it's about the other sources of wealth, which are massively unequal.
2020-09-08 19:21
2020-09-08 19:35
United States Festive_
this graph is kinda dumb. the top interval is 200,000. thats really not much. the issue is that the top 1% have WAYYYY more than 200,000. You can argue whether or not it's an issue but that graph is misleading
2020-09-08 19:40
France Des_Moines
The graph didnt count stupidly rich people since they make up such a small % of the population Imo i aleo think the fact that rich people have so much money isnt really an issue considering that theyre providing jobs and advancements for others and the majority of them earned their wealth
2020-09-08 19:49
United States Festive_
its not about the population though, it's about the percentage of total wealth in the country owned by only a few people they do provide many jobs but a lot of the time money just sits in a bank and isnt used in productive ways
2020-09-08 19:56
What you're talking about is wealth inequality, which is a very different statistic to income inequality (which is what OP talks about). Just to put it into some context. Sweden has the third lowest income inequality in the developed world (thanks to the "working class" earning more while the "upper middle class" earns slightly less than in most other countries). Meanwhile we also have the seconds highest wealth inequality in the developed world as we have a fuckton of billionaires/capita
2020-09-15 22:38
lmfao, like 3 people in the USA are wealthier than the bottom 50% of the population combined
2020-09-08 20:04
Albania HLTV_God
Compared to france i guess 15000$/ year is about 7000-10000$ 10-18.9% cant afford to live
2020-09-08 19:55
United States _Nohj
Stop making alt accounts america!
2020-09-08 20:04
France Des_Moines
2020-09-08 21:41
To adress the Eurocentric Europhille rethoric, you must first understand the Eurocentric Europhille mindset. These people have been completly conquered by Germanic idiosincracy of hardcore statist collectivism, basically they all think freedom is a social construct of VERY LOW priority and that some level of equality of wealth reached through massive unequal treatment under the law is not only okay, but actually right and good. They've been brainwashed for generations into thinking that a good citizen is a docile citizen, and despite all the genocides and inhumane crimes perpetrated by their absolutely horrible governments, they still think the real danger to society are private citizens and enterprises. This is what happens when you allow Germanic people to infiltrate the academic elite realm of the entire western hemisphere, there is no way back until their horrible system collapses, and even then it will take 20, 30 or even 50 years to rewire these air breathers back into proper human beings. Not to mention, the closer you get to the original advocates of this nonsense, the purer and more transparent you see their honest rethoric become, when you talk to Slavs and Latin Europeans you'll notice their justification for social democracy is "dunno man xd, i just want the frees healthcare and some college lmao" , then you start moving towards Scandinavians and they're already saying stuff like "Do you really think is RIGHT for some people to have 2 houses while others have none?" until you finally speak with Germans and they're fully honest and transparent and tell you "nah, the rich are fucking degenerates we will allow them to have some property for now but ideally, it'd all be stipped and redistributed". This will not remain the status quo for much longer.
2020-09-08 21:12
Vast majority of wealthy people are fine. The problem is with a very few extremely wealthy people who use their wealth to fuck over everyone else.
2020-09-08 21:19
France Des_Moines
There are some wealthy cunts but there are also people who provide jobs and products to everyone else
2020-09-08 21:41
listen the old Milton Friedman then, social programs was his idea
2020-09-09 20:23
Social Programs had been enacted for decades before Friedman became an economist.
2020-09-10 02:18
not in his way.
2020-09-10 02:18
You are excused OP, stupidity is not something you have control of.
2020-09-09 20:40
20% of households (60 million people) earning less than 25k/year, and that doesn't seem like a problem? In my mind it always comes back to how proud people in the US are to be living in the wealthiest country in the world. Your nation can be wealthy without all of the people being all that well off, and we can do better than we currently are.
2020-09-09 20:42
Technically the US isnt wealthy, all the money you people have basically isnt yours. Might want to pay back your debt.
2020-09-15 22:51
Alright, I'll bite. You'd be hard pressed to find a country that doesn't excessively borrow. Germany actually has an external debt that's around 2/3 of what the US has. The difference is that the US still has a higher GDP than external debt, whereas Germany's external debt outweighs its GDP. Most of the US national (around 70%) is public debt, debt it owes to its citizens. This makes up a much smaller part of Germany's total debt (around 30%). This means that the majority of US borrowings are from its citizens. As a citizen, that money absolutely is mine.
2020-09-16 18:41
Most of the people in the 200k-300k pay tons of taxes and usually work in some STEM field that benefits society. I think they've earned their money...
2020-09-09 20:48
$25k is not a huge amount of money, and almost 20% of the population are earning less than that. That's not great, really.
2020-09-09 21:32
In Netherlands 50% of families make less then 30k usd$, in US this is less than 30% ( and lower taxes ) I guess it's better in the USA.
2020-09-15 21:41
wait what the fuck that doesnt sound right can you link me a source that supports your claim
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2020-09-15 22:25
But they probably have retirement/pension
2020-09-16 18:56
so on average people in the US make 10k$ more each year and they pay WAY less in tax I think on average at the end of the year you'd end up with 20k$ more in the US each year. 10 years of that and you can buy a couple of homes that generate more income than instable pensions ever could. But that's just how I see it :) I rather have people make more, less taxes than having ppl be poor and dependent on government assistance
2020-09-16 20:03
alot of people in the US are actually living paycheck to paycheck which i dont really understand even the majority of people making over 45k a year are living paycheck to paycheck idk maybe you guys have shitty spending habbits
2020-09-16 20:06
True, really awful spending habbits. Buy first, pay later ( &think later)
2020-09-16 20:14
And where do you leave your money? Ina bank? What if that bank crumbles? What if the economy changes and all the money lose their value? Pension is better for mortals ":)"
2020-09-16 20:09
Well, you do that by investing it. Sure economy changes etc etc but I'll tell you this: if you work 50 years and invest & build something it is WAYYY less likely to be ruined by a shitty economy than your pensions ;)
2020-09-16 20:13
How do you work 8h shifts and still manage to build something? Kinda curious.
2020-09-16 20:15
When I'm saying BUILD something - I don't mean you LITTERALLY build a building - you can save a part of the money and invest a bit building a portfolio.
2020-09-16 20:57
Nice, you can invest only if you have the money + no guarantee at all Also forgot to mention that not only do they get their pension, but also a free healthcare (didn't even think of it, y'know... a European thing) :)
2020-09-16 20:59
It's not free - you still pay monthly fees for it; except you get some money back from the government which... you pay for in taxes tenfold.
2020-09-16 21:06
And our lives don't end with a bad accident Smort
2020-09-16 21:08
rofl i recognize your name from defending trump on another thread goes to show your stupidity knows no bounds! Stay in France you dumb fuck!
2020-09-15 21:39
im not in france my dude
2020-09-15 21:49
United States Zysyphian
Its really not a problem, and most of it is choice based. I worked hard to make more than 50% of Americans before I've even finished college. So many entitled brats blame everyone but themselves, they don't know what it means to earn something.
2020-09-15 21:45
Palestine tomgfs
This isn't the problem. The real one resides on the 1%. Following that u may think sth as "is just 1%, the rest is quite equal", after reading that text. However, that 0.1% has so much money that they could end hunger worldwide. People have to stop thinking the upper class is considered the villan of the story and start opening your eyes to the billionaires accumulated wealth.
2020-09-16 01:33
I believe to be in the top 1% you make over 400k a year. That is a large amount of money, but the media make it seem like everyone in the top 1% makes millions and millions... its a non issue that is way out of taken proportion.
2020-09-16 18:45
There's not it's really not that hard to make money in america there's a lot of ways I'm sure all free markets are like that maybe not idk but it's mad chilll
2020-09-16 18:52
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