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Dignitas
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Sweden Lagge15 
I know a lot of you have been missing my posts from the spring (because I do get comments and messages about it semi-regularly) and I just wanted to say I got a blog, which I update as often as I can. Sadly I have about 0 extra hours per week to spend on either watching, playing or writing about CSGO, which means my prodoctivity is at a new record low. but I managed to write a piece (I had issues getting out all my thoughts within this subject) about Dignitas. lagge15.wordpress.com/2020/08/06/dignita.. TL;DR - Why Dignitas roster is stupid - What does Flashpoint mean to them - Going through results - Going through individual ratinng - Going over staff - Going over future possibilites and hurdles
2020-09-12 17:45
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#1
perk  | 
Finland eIe
But why
2020-09-12 17:46
#19
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Sweden Lagge15
That's what we all ask
2020-09-12 18:29
i dont care but im leaving a bump
2020-09-12 17:46
ok boomer
2020-09-12 18:33
#49
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Sweden Lagge15
Thanks for bumparoony
2020-09-12 20:43
#3
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France Lili___
DISBAND.
2020-09-12 17:48
#46
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Sweden Lagge15
That might not be a stupid decision Disband and restart
2020-09-12 20:08
#4
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Mongolia Kkura
What did Dignitas think when they signed them did they think that they can replicate the success they had 6 years ago ?
2020-09-12 17:50
#6
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Sweden Lagge15
Almost seem like it.
2020-09-12 17:52
merch, sponsor money
2020-09-12 17:53
#9
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Sweden Lagge15
yeah, but what about the Flashpoint partnership? If they were in it for just merch and sponsors they would've gone for the ESEA route
2020-09-12 17:54
I was dont know about those partnerships
2020-09-12 17:55
#14
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Sweden Lagge15
I mention it in the post but short version To be an ESL partner you need to be top 30 and get invite from ESEA/ESL. You get barely no revenue, but you get invites to their leagues and pro tour. You are bound to attend almost all MTG events (dreamhack, IEM, EPL, ESL One, etc) and get prize money and some extra stuff. The goal is to make the best events with the biggest teams Flashpoint paid in $2M upfront for 4 seasons. If you are below rank 20 you will be fined $100k. All teams share the revenue and the prize money is big enough to make the teams grow over time. The goal is to provide a healthy economy within the CSGO scene as well as building great teams that all benefit from having a rivalry
2020-09-12 17:58
bump cause actual content
2020-09-12 17:52
#50
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Sweden Lagge15
Thanks for bump
2020-09-12 20:58
bump lagge
2020-09-12 17:52
#79
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Sweden Lagge15
Don't bump me bump the thread!
2020-09-12 22:30
Basically dignitas has signed a merch team just like mibr. They dont expect them to win tier 1 tournaments (it"ll be great if they do) but its basically a team for selling merch. The difference is dig actually puts good performances in tier 2-3 tournaments and doesnt bomb the shit out and then cry over twitter and stuff. They still have their morals and heads straight. The players want to win but the org is looking with the merch sales in mind
2020-09-12 17:55
#12
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Sweden Lagge15
Not even close to the same thing. Sure, they look similar today, but MIBR is put together to be a top tier team that contest for titles. They are just too obsolete to do it. Dignitas got no ambition to be top tier team with this roster.
2020-09-12 17:55
No lmao unless the -fallen fer taco theres no hope for mibr rn and they sole reason they're keeping the roster is because how famous they are. If they wanted to win the would have done what NiP did. Dig is looking way better than mibr rn
2020-09-12 17:57
#15
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Sweden Lagge15
Yeah, that is how it is today, but sigining SK in 2018 was a way to buy into the top. But they didn't have the mentality to stay at the top and right now are in a free fall only saved by the slow points decay in HLTV and ESL ranking
2020-09-12 17:59
That was in 2018 if they wanted to win they should have kept meyern and rebuilt the team around him or get an entirely new roster
2020-09-12 18:30
#22
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Sweden Lagge15
The issues started before that. If they wanted to win they wouldn't have picked up Tarik and force him into a new slot/spot/role They would've looked into ANYONE in the world that would fit their playstyle. Literally NBK, RPK, Krimz, Jkaem had made more sense. Remember that when Tarik joined MIBR, these players weren't as highly saught after as right now
2020-09-12 18:33
IMO tarik wasnt such a bad pick as he is one of those players who can slot well and adapt to any role as he has previously done. And that MiBR mix of BR and US players wasnt that bad, I think it was just a bad timing - Astralis being so dominant and winning most of the tournaments - that made the roster look worse than it was. But thats just my opinion.
2020-09-14 09:44
#109
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Sweden Lagge15
The main reason why the "original" MIBR, and the Tarik one, never got good were the role distributions, the culture of the core parts of the team and communication... something that have been an issue for years. But, bringing in Tarik and Stewie2k to force them to play weird positions just to accomodate Fer and FalleN is quite stupid.
2020-09-14 10:23
That I can agree with, they literally were the Taco's of the team back then. Also the communication and culture is a lot different.
2020-09-14 10:30
#111
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Sweden Lagge15
I didn't mean it was bad for Stew and Tarik, I meant it was bad for the roster. We've heard this from Coldzera, Zews, Boltz as well, and they are from BR.
2020-09-14 10:38
The whole MiBR thing is another blog post worthy topic if not more than that. But that DIG post was a nice read, tho 👍
2020-09-14 11:31
#166
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Sweden Lagge15
yeah I actually thought about MIBR post before, but considering their fans I have tried to stay away from them, and I am blocked by several of the old core players on twitter, so I can't read up on history and get the dates correctly
2020-09-14 13:56
Could just make a throwaway twitter account or ask a lad with an account to check specific stuff. But yeah, making a post about MiBR is risky considering how hostile the diehard fans can be sometimes
2020-09-14 14:56
#207
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Sweden Lagge15
yeah that's true
2020-09-14 14:58
They have 100% winrate on lan :)
2020-09-12 18:02
#18
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Sweden Lagge15
1 BO3 right?
2020-09-12 18:04
yes
2020-09-12 18:36
#80
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Sweden Lagge15
2020-09-12 22:33
I like you! That is some classy humor there. Though i want them to perform better. :(
2020-09-14 13:59
#173
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Sweden Lagge15
I am not the one making the jokes, all provided by Fifflaren!
2020-09-14 14:01
disband
2020-09-12 18:03
#81
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Sweden Lagge15
That's more or less what I said, but I used more words!
2020-09-12 23:07
don't understand existing of dignatas at all smh like old retirement players just for fun?
2020-09-12 18:38
#26
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Sweden Lagge15
yeah, more or less atm. I don't see how this team can get anywhere
2020-09-12 18:42
It's a fucking mess tbh. To begin with, It looked like they were putting in the work and actually changing for the better. Now they're just in the old habits from the end of their time as a core. There's a reason they stopped playing together and they should remember it. Xizt is a fucking joke of an in game leader and they're making stupid mistakes you don't see in high-level MM. For those asking for an example, they're peeking AWPers 1 by 1 and giving them time to reload. They're also just giving away a fucking load of 1v1 duels with 0 trade potential. I play in a 5 stack, we're not serious about that game, but even we don't make these mistakes as frequently as DiG.
2020-09-12 18:39
#27
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Sweden Lagge15
They also run into sites and being surprised by flashes. Like that hasn't been a part of the game for 20 years Or they still have no idea how to deal with molotovs
2020-09-12 18:43
It's just painful. Sure they might not be insane aimers, but they could win games if they just had a bit of structure.
2020-09-12 18:47
#82
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Sweden Lagge15
I would say they do got structure, but the structure isn't up-to-date with how Counter-strike is played nowadays. It is as if they got stuck in their own prime and thought "this used to work, so it should still work" even though people have had counters to their plays for half a decade.
2020-09-12 23:32
I mean they don't seem to have any kind of structure, look at how uncoordinated they are.
2020-09-12 23:54
#84
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Sweden Lagge15
It looks exactly like it did in 2013... but against teams from 2020
2020-09-13 00:13
back when people thought molly was OP and should be removed from the game
2020-09-15 01:13
#256
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Sweden Lagge15
yepyepyep back then. Then people understood how to use it and Friberg became obsolete as an entry, moved to Heroic and became a good role player
2020-09-15 01:14
rep to u for actually watching their games men for me so foking boring I can't stand a minute
2020-09-12 18:44
I watch hoping that something will be different. Out of their last 7 maps, they only won 1. And those were against teams from the top 50-150.
2020-09-12 18:46
#31
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Sweden Lagge15
Since you watch their matches. Did you notice that they changed roles after the player break but for some reason went back to their old roles?
2020-09-12 18:47
I saw a few differences, but it just seems like they're going for what's comfortable instead of actively trying to improve. They just need to play some strong fundamental CS similar to that of heroic. Put Friberg on entry, F0rest second guy in, and GTR lurk. Have Xizt as a designated support player with the sole purpose of setting up Hallzerk. That'd be a comfortable system for all the players as they're familiar with the roles. GTR would need to innovate and reinvent the lurk again to be effective, but with those roles and some fundamental cs they could easily win games.
2020-09-12 18:50
#37
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Sweden Lagge15
"Put Friberg on entry, F0rest second guy in, and GTR lurk. Have Xizt as a designated support player with the sole purpose of setting up Hallzerk." this is exactly what they do, and it clearly doesn't work. Most "modern" teams don't have a lurker and an entry, they got pairings or one pairing and a trio, or a trio and two extremities, just to gain and hold map control.
2020-09-12 18:59
I know it's not vey modern cs, but if they nailed the fundamentals of good util and trades, they could actually make it work, especially in tiers 2/4
2020-09-12 19:27
#86
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Sweden Lagge15
In other words you just want them to start over and redo their stratbook from scratch? Start with simple plays and build on from that?
2020-09-13 10:39
For sure, what use is their current system? Xizt needs to re-learn what It means to be an IGL because he's been stale/ just plain bad with it since 2015. Building from the ground up with Xizt specifically seems to be the only way DiG can succeed. You can't run complex strats without first nailing the basics because it'll all just fall apart at the first hurdle
2020-09-13 17:42
#89
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Sweden Lagge15
I agree. Not even sure if he ever was a good IGL Fiffy and Xizt shared it and they had one of the biggest staffs back in the day. And with player like Forest and GeT_RiGhT you don't need much more than people creating space for them. But it is not 2012-2015 anymore. I would say the best I've seen Xizt past 2-3 years was as a support stand-in for FaZe. He is the first and only IGL that have missed a Major with Fnatic. He was the first IGL to miss out a Major with NiP. I don't think we will EVER see anyone miss out Majors with both these teams, because being IGL and missing out a Major with either of these teams would be a death sentence now
2020-09-13 18:40
With him re-learning how to IGL and just playing solid fundamental cs, DiG wouldn't have to rely on 2/3 players having an insane game just to win a map. It'd be nice to see, but it's most likely down to Fifflaren playing the bad guy and holding Xizt accountable for his failures. Don't get me wrong, everyone else on the team has been playing shit too with the exception of everyone having carry maps here and there. But you can still win a map or series with strats when players are having a bad day (case and point, mous had 4/5 players negative and won a series)
2020-09-13 18:46
#91
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Sweden Lagge15
But re-learning one of the toughest roles seems time consuming and in some ways expensive. Wouldn't it be easier to put in someone like Torben into the IGL role, and as an entry (Like Golden, arT, Daps, etc.) and let Xizt play solely support? That seems easier, cheaper and better for the long-term
2020-09-13 18:56
I completely agree with you, but the fact of the matter is that DiG won't make a roster move. The whole point of DiG is that it's the original NiP back together trying for one last hurrah. From a marketing perspective, it's a much better decision to re-work what you already have from the ground up instead of making changes. No one will want to stick around for "4 out of 5 original NiP players"
2020-09-13 22:42
#96
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Sweden Lagge15
That would ONLY make sense if they didn't sign with Flashpoint. Old merits doesn't count in Flashpoint. Look at MIBR tonight. If they weren't a Flashpoint team I wouldn't have any issues with them being what they are right now. But being a Partner from the beginning makes me confounded
2020-09-13 22:46
I mean when FP2 starts DiG will have to do something as they're outside of the top 30. At this current rate, DiG will be outside the top 100 within 4/5 months
2020-09-13 22:49
#98
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Sweden Lagge15
Nah, their RMR points will save them But considering they're the only FP team that got no rumors about them mean they will have to do something quite soon... or do as they did earlier this year and just accept the fine, even though the fines were scrapped during FP1
2020-09-13 23:35
I honestly hope they keep this 5 and completely re-work Xizt as an IGL And in light of recent news, mibr technically disbanded, so all of those "mibr disband" comment came true lmao
2020-09-14 06:53
#104
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Sweden Lagge15
This could happen to DIG as well if it wasn't for Fiffy being in charge
2020-09-14 09:03
I honestly wouldn't mind at this point
2020-09-14 09:51
#174
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Sweden Lagge15
Keep 2-3 players and restart I hope they go for Toft and Torben Both are free and have proven to be great players in lower tier but never had the chance to play higher tier
2020-09-14 14:03
They won't make a roster move unless the org steps in. Just look at how long mibr stayed together because of the marketing angle of "oh it's the legendary Brazilian core"
2020-09-15 15:57
#283
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Sweden Lagge15
yeah, but once it was far too late they had to change the whole core and now they neither got the players nor the possibilities for the future. Wouldn't it be better to think long-term rather than quick-bucks and clout?
2020-09-15 15:59
Oh for sure, I'm with you on making changes. But ultimately, the org won't do shit :/
2020-09-15 16:00
#285
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Sweden Lagge15
Their biggest investment will just bleed money Will the merch cover the Flashpoint fines and initial fee?
2020-09-15 16:02
hahaha christ no
2020-09-15 16:02
#287
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Sweden Lagge15
Someone is clearly not doing their job then
2020-09-15 16:06
There's not a single esports org in EU or NA that makes money, it's not just DiG. They're all losing money
2020-09-15 16:07
#289
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Sweden Lagge15
There's a difference between losing money and burning money I think that Flashpoint teams might be able to make money in the future this is also bad prejudice for future orgs coming in, or for orgs coming back I wanna see NRG, Misfits, TSM, T1 and other big orgs get into CS to enrich the scene with esports expertise. But when Dignitas and Immortals shitting the bed, nobody wanna get into the scene again
2020-09-15 16:10
god knows what immortals are doing now lmao might wnanna make a new comment before we're reading vertically
2020-09-15 16:11
#292
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Sweden Lagge15
2020-09-15 16:17
I usually like your posts and comments but after this: "Why Dignitas roster is stupid" I will not read it, although I'm not saying it ain't true. So, have a good day
2020-09-12 18:50
#35
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Sweden Lagge15
You might get something out of reading it, doesn't matter if you agree or not Did I really write that though? That sounds weirdly put I have been exhausted for weeks, so if I wrote it I might have to proof read it
2020-09-12 18:57
Okay Guess I will, got nothing else to do
2020-09-12 19:08
Okay very nice *thumbs up* And I like when u show their ratings, u can see f0rest and hallzerk on the top, then GTR and in the bottom friberg and Xizt
2020-09-12 19:33
#44
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Sweden Lagge15
yeah, I know it is like this when you watch all their matches but to have the same rating no matter if it is march 5 matches, or april 22 matches (or w/e) It just show that it doesn't look like the players are from the same tier and play in the same team. How does two of them keep positive rating when they lose when two or three of them get negative rating even if they win? It is just insane I didn't plan to add it in, I just stumbled upon it when making another point
2020-09-12 19:39
Yeah, and u can come with the "he's IGL" or "he is the entry" but tbh their aim is quite bad, but something that I wasnt expecting is how confident they are, in many rounds they Just run and gun, and I think Its good they have that confidence, but to be realistic they should rely more on the strats and less on the raw aim, cuz theirs is pretty low
2020-09-12 20:22
#48
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Sweden Lagge15
Yeah, but how come each time they win it is off hard carry by forest and Hallzerk in close games and when they lose you still se those two going +10
2020-09-12 20:27
Not to mention that they throw so hard. Maybe I'm just focused on them bcuz it's only them and nip that I watch more closely, but the amount of times that they throw away their players advantage or lose to ecos is enormous. And tbh I don't know how to fix that xD
2020-09-12 21:15
#52
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Sweden Lagge15
That's the job for vENdetta and Fiffy... but they are about as capable of good work as Xizt
2020-09-12 21:21
Honestly I think they are the kind of team that can upset a t1 team, but lose to a t5 team. I still hope they manage to play in the big stages again, they don't have to win, but I'd love to see them playing on Cologne one more time :D
2020-09-12 21:27
#56
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Sweden Lagge15
Except NiP and Fnatic, what t1 teams do you think they can upset? It is impossible to upset someone with 8 year old strats and only two players on the server
2020-09-12 21:27
Any team that doesn't have such raw aim. And I'm saying that they have the potential to, not saying they ever will :P
2020-09-12 21:29
#85
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Sweden Lagge15
They might just be two roster changes away from being top 15
2020-09-13 00:56
#34
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India bartallen
Nice
2020-09-12 18:53
#36
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Sweden Lagge15
thanks
2020-09-12 18:57
2020-09-12 19:07
#40
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Sweden Lagge15
So long ago, that I don't even recalll... But I wonder if that is why TACO blocked me
2020-09-12 19:11
axaxaxaxaxaxaxxa
2020-09-12 19:20
#45
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Sweden Lagge15
Considering the date this must be some Flashpoint related thing.
2020-09-12 19:40
they just need more time... give them a chance...
2020-09-12 21:22
#54
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Sweden Lagge15
9 months Same time as BIG, CoL, OG, Sprout. Longer time than: Heretics, Movistar Riders, ENCE, half the t3 teams they lost to
2020-09-12 21:24
it's ok bro... they just need a bit more time... flashpoint 2 in da bag...
2020-09-12 21:51
#71
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Sweden Lagge15
Colossal vs Lions vs Dignitas dignitas.ch/?lang=en
2020-09-12 21:57
Mens they will be top1 soon 😤😤 Mark my words!! If they wont i will eat my own cum🤬
2020-09-12 21:36
#59
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Sweden Lagge15
Not a big challenge since I think you do it whether or not they will be top1 How will they become top 1 by not making roster changes?
2020-09-12 21:39
WTF mens i dont eat cum on daily basis 🤔 How will they become top1? They will just start winning, lol. In gtr i believe ♥️
2020-09-12 21:41
#61
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Sweden Lagge15
weekly? When will they start winning? When Valve or Flashpoint introduce a Senior League for people above 35?
2020-09-12 21:44
Mens stop pulling my leg or i will go nuclear on you 🤬 DIGNITAS IS BEST TEAM EVER AND WILL BE TOP 1 VERY SOON! JUST HAVE SOME FAITH 😾
2020-09-12 21:46
#67
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Sweden Lagge15
How?
2020-09-12 21:54
What do you mean how? They will shoot heads pif paf 🔫⚔️
2020-09-12 22:00
#74
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Sweden Lagge15
3 of them couldn't even shoot heads in AimBotz
2020-09-12 22:01
You're just a hater dude 😾
2020-09-12 22:03
#87
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Sweden Lagge15
You didn't read it did you? I told them why they suck, what mistakes they've made, why this makes no sense, and what they should do to improve! Doesn't sound like hating to me.
2020-09-13 12:04
dude, look at the guy's name, stop trying. By the way, i liked it :)
2020-09-14 12:02
#137
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Sweden Lagge15
Thanks
2020-09-14 12:18
After so long u posted something. It was nice to read. Xizt and Friberg just don’t have it anymore. Forest and gtr can stay. gtr is a strange player but when he steps up he can win a map on his own. And getting better players will give him more space for magic. Nice to see u writing again
2020-09-12 21:47
#68
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Sweden Lagge15
2020-09-12 21:55
What u think about the MIBR switches? Will fallen leave too? How will MIBR go about the rebuild? Will they just bring back their loaned out players or go for newer faces?
2020-09-14 13:17
#150
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Sweden Lagge15
I think this is a huge blessing for Immortals and MIBR. You now can really look into what you want and what you need rather than just a scape goat. My initial thoughts would be to bring in B4rtin, Felps and Chelo
2020-09-14 13:21
Yeah I felt like getting rid of these 2 was the solution a while ago. And even though I don’t like mibr I feel like this is a decision I can respect and support. Will be interesting to see their approach to rebuild Edit: just saw fallen stepped down and kngv isn’t happy about it either
2020-09-14 13:40
#156
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Sweden Lagge15
My take would be to get a manager first. Get the Manager and kNgV- to build a philosophy for the team. Then you build slots, spots and roles on those philosophies. You put in kNgV- and trk to two of those roles, and then you pick the best BR players fitting for the other roles. b4rting, iDK (if they want an IGL), Felps, Chelo, Yel, prt, saffee, biguzera, nekiz, dumau, raafa...
2020-09-14 13:49
Gtr and Xizt benched. Maybe u should have posted this earlier. Sad to see gtr tho I think this has to do with more than aim? Maybe the support aspect of play
2020-09-16 18:13
#302
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Sweden Lagge15
The weirdest part is that Friberg is still there
2020-09-16 18:19
Yeah maybe they will make him lead? Entry on t support on ct?
2020-09-16 18:26
#306
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Sweden Lagge15
rumor has it GtR stepped aside due to his health and then it is most understandable to bench Xizt
2020-09-16 18:35
#65
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Russia SW@G
Ill read it but you didn't have to write so much. A simple "disband" would have sufficed
2020-09-12 21:53
#69
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Sweden Lagge15
I actually went with the other route, why they suck, and why it doesn't make sense, and how they can get out of it without disbanding
2020-09-12 21:56
NICE MAN! GOOD JOB
2020-09-12 21:53
#70
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Sweden Lagge15
thanks bro
2020-09-12 21:56
I suppose they mistook with Halzerk picking. I do not really follow cs scene, but checked matches and 31years old f0rest who has a baby does better than Norwegian.
2020-09-12 22:01
#75
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Sweden Lagge15
But the Norwegian does better than the other 3
2020-09-12 22:02
What's the point of that? I remember one of the oldfags said that they wanna be a team like Vitality where 1 player exceeds the limits and gets 20+frags every single game.
2020-09-12 22:05
#78
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Sweden Lagge15
That was Fifflaren in an interview when he annoucned the new team for Dignitas. Hallzerk has been one of the two best players together with F0rest. Neither of those two are the issue.
2020-09-12 22:21
loool
2020-09-13 18:57
#175
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Sweden Lagge15
true story
2020-09-14 14:03
GeT_RiGhT, friberg and xizt have got to go. Build a new team around f0rest and hallzerk, as hallzerk is amazing and f0rest is a still hitting veteran presence. Unfortunately, it's time for get_right to retire and move on. btw OP, mind if I give some suggeestions and tips regarding your blog/writing in general? This isn't a flame AT ALL, just my two cents about possible improvements. Try not to include somewhat useless metatext, you know. For example, with metatext I mean things like "Quite possibly", "personally I believe", etc., do you catch my point? If you have an opinion, just put it in there. There is absolutely no reason to sugarcoat it or add any useless words around it. For example, if you want to come out as "more professional", consider the following. Let me show how the last sentence could come out without sounding childish; "In Denmark I would go for Torben, but that is not necessary, because in Denmark there are a number of competent IGL’s and players that would fit in with the DIG team. " "Considering the amount of competent and experienced In-game Leaders (and players in general, for that matter) that Denmark produces, the possibility of adding danish players to the line-up should be researched and/or pursued further by the Dignitas organization. For example, Torben, could be a valid addition amongst others potential players. It is definitely worth for Dignitas to expand their sights on new fresh players that would mesh around hallzerk and f0rest." That being said, keep on doing what you do! There is always a possibility that esports-sites are looking for bloggers etc.
2020-09-13 19:02
#94
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Sweden Lagge15
I am not sure if GtR needs to be let-go already. They should be able to do it in small steps. But sure, it would be better for them to do a big change already so they could build for long-term instead of planning for small steps which might just cost them time, funds and be as risky. Regarding my phrasing: I know it is shit. It is littered with typo's and linguistic fallacies. I barely got any time for this, which is one of my biggest hobbies, and if I would put the time and energy to it for my pieces to live up to my "real" standard, I would never get anything out. So when my life get less hectic (in about a year) I will probably have found a way to write it more properly. I learned a lot about disposition for a better format while writing this, but if I would implement that, and proof read the post (which I will do sometime next week) I wouldn't get it out until next week, and then I would only put out one post every 2 or 3 months.
2020-09-13 19:42
kick_friberg_ffs
2020-09-14 06:58
Also nice blog :D
2020-09-14 06:58
#105
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Sweden Lagge15
thanks
2020-09-14 09:04
#176
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Sweden Lagge15
I don't really like him Haven't seen him in a long time but he has harrassed me on HLTV and Twitter more than once
2020-09-14 14:04
#102
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United States deepfocus
I think Dignitas still has it in them to compete and win. It's just been a weird year for everyone. Thanks for the write up though, interesting stuff.
2020-09-14 07:56
#178
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Sweden Lagge15
maybe possible. They got 100% win rate on LAN But I doubt it will change. Time is a factor and more for DIG than for any other org/roster
2020-09-14 14:05
i don't even know who you are but ok
2020-09-14 08:28
#127
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Sweden Lagge15
I am Lagge15
2020-09-14 11:23
#136
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Sweden Lagge15
2020-09-14 12:17
very nice!
2020-09-14 12:23
very interestink personality
2020-09-14 12:23
#142
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Sweden Lagge15
Spatsiba
2020-09-14 12:25
#106
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Sweden FroztyIV
I love dig cause of it's team, altough hallzerk has a great potential of being in the top and the team is stopping it, hopefully i'm wrong about this but i think GT need to step it up more. something is very wrong at the moment. I love these players and I hope for the best. Also, they need more offline tournaments, that's where they have alot of experience.
2020-09-14 09:11
#116
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Norway at0mic_cs
many offline tournaments these days :(((
2020-09-14 11:06
#119
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Sweden Lagge15
Check the spring schedule. They chose to play Major qualifier, Flashpoint 1, Dreamhack Masters Spring and Blast That is about half the events of most teams close to them in the ranking. I think Dignitas have played as many matches all 2020 as BIG did in 2 or 3 months during the spring
2020-09-14 11:10
#122
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Sweden Lagge15
It is more important to get Xizt and Friberg to step up
2020-09-14 11:10
#260
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Sweden FroztyIV
well, there is no point in playing tournaments if you dont have a strategy, it just gives a bad rep, they tried to play one offline tournament that went online in early 2020. it's not about how many tournaments you play, it's about the quality. they'll manage in a year or so.
2020-09-15 10:06
#263
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Sweden Lagge15
I agree, but you need to adapt to the scene. Earlier in the pandemic online era a lot of analysts said it would be stupid to make roster changes because then you wouldn't know how they would perform whenever LAN becomes a thing. But it has been 6 months of Online now, and certain teams seem to not be able to adapt. We don't know enough about DIG in LAN to just wait it out, especially not if it is going to cost them money for not being top 20 Right now they don't even look like a top 45 team, even though they're ranked 44, because of reasons I went through in the article There isn't anything that show me this team will become top 20, LAN or online doesn't matter.
2020-09-15 10:12
Tldr?
2020-09-14 10:58
#113
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Sweden Lagge15
Shit performance Shit tactics Would be fine if they weren't in Flashpoint Try to go Scandinavian
2020-09-14 11:01
TL;DR - Why Dignitas roster is stupid - What does Flashpoint mean to them - Going through results - Going through individual ratinng - Going over staff - Going over future possibilites and hurdles It was literally on the post
2020-09-14 11:04
#117
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Sweden Lagge15
hahaah, thanks
2020-09-14 11:07
tldr?
2020-09-14 11:29
#135
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Sweden Lagge15
DIG
2020-09-14 12:16
Ok
2020-09-14 15:15
#254
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Sweden Lagge15
New TL:DR The org have made two contradicting investments in the roster and in Flashpoint!
2020-09-15 01:12
#115
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Norway at0mic_cs
dignitas killing off my hallzerk :((((
2020-09-14 11:06
#118
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Sweden Lagge15
Most likely. Unless they sell him soon and replace him with MArcelious.
2020-09-14 11:08
Meh, as fans we expect too much from orgs but in reality very few orgs want to invest too much into CS:GO. This is a perfect team for an org to pick up. They have a young & promising player they can build on for the future if they somehow wish to invest more into the game. They have two legends and one of them is still a VERY good player that can win games on his own. They put together a solid team that gets along, no drama, they have fun, they create content, they market the org & the sponsors are probably loving it. Also their salaries are probably not even close to some of the bigger orgs in the game and they are perfectly fine with that. Of course we all want these guys to succeed but truth is I atleast wasn't expecting it. They are a solid T3/T4 team that can reach playoffs in smaller leagues & Flashpoint.
2020-09-14 11:10
#123
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Sweden Lagge15
I agree... if they weren't Flashpoint Partner. They will become the Shanghai Dragons of Flashpoint unless they start doing roster changes.
2020-09-14 11:11
Dream on about roster changes it ain't happening. These guys will play together (well can't speak for hallzerk but I think hes loving it as well) until they retire. Like I said, the players and the org are aligned with expectations and how invested they should be in the game which right now is a team that plays leagues and competes in Flashpoint. If they wanted a major winning team then they would've got one from the start. But that requires quite a hefty investment which NO ONE is willing to make right now going into CS:GO.
2020-09-14 11:13
#126
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Sweden Lagge15
The org invested $2M into Flashpoint and accounted to be fined for FP1, but are they accounting to be fined for FP2 as well before they start doing changes? If they weren't a Flashpoint team, this would make sense. But being a Flashpoint team AND having this roster is contradicting itself.
2020-09-14 11:22
Fined for what? They played FP1 with a standin so obviously their expectations were lowered. FP2 will be different. And Flashpoint is essentially a league for T3/T4 teams. So I think its reasonable that they are invested into Flashpoint simply because they need exposure from playing in leagues. And I think these type of leagues like Flashpoint and BLAST where orgs invest money and then gets a guaranteed spot will be alot more common in the future which means this Dignitas roster will get more exposure.
2020-09-14 12:27
#146
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Sweden Lagge15
I mention this in the article. Flashpoint got a system where they fine the orgs/teams that isn't top 20. $100K fine. But it isn't said if it is once per season, once per week or once per month. So it will be somewhere between $100k and $600k for a team. That is about the same as the buyout for a decent to good player. FP2 might be worse, because the players haven't improved, neither individual nor as a team. I think you don't really get or know the concept of Flashpoint. Blast is more like ESL than Flashpoint, and they don't invest in the league. They get parntered but put in no investment to it. Same with ESL partnered teams. Flashpoint is ran by the orgs and paid by the orgs, while Blast and ESL run their stuff from a 3rd party TO
2020-09-14 12:48
Good write up, i'll continue supporting them tho just because i love the team and their personalities, but yeah they really have to come with some results soon.
2020-09-14 11:10
#124
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Sweden Lagge15
thanks I don't even think results can save the players
2020-09-14 11:12
When this Dignitas roster was announced, I was pretty excited, seeing everyone I love in one team..Friberg, Forest, Gtr, Xizt and Fiffy but then they started playing...oof it hurts to watch em lose ;(
2020-09-14 11:23
#138
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Sweden Lagge15
I loved it because the vision Fiffy shared really made sense... but apparently the bench and FA time for Xizt and Friberg were too rough on them
2020-09-14 12:19
Very sad to see that Forest could've been doing great (like Rpk) but he's wasting his time and soon he'll retire
2020-09-14 11:29
#148
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Sweden Lagge15
f0rest is still doing fine and he can continue for at least one more year, maybe two or three on this level. But GtR, Xizt and Friberg keep the team from growing and pushing ranking spots good enough for f0rest and Hallzerk
2020-09-14 12:52
Maybe it's time for dig org to accept that vintage can't always stay good. Keep forest and hallzerk (maybe xizt too, if he's a decent igl, haven't seen him lately), and build a roster around them
2020-09-14 13:56
#170
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Sweden Lagge15
f0rest and Hallzerk for sure, but if they gonna keep a 3rd one I would go for GtR Their current roster is like the old Mousesports roster with Oskar and suNny... but add 5 years to each player
2020-09-14 13:59
#132
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Faroe Islands staxus
GTR is just a mediocre player now, he can't adapt for years after other players figured out how he's playing and his aim isn't on par with them. friberg is a complete hit or miss, but most of the time he's doing enormous amount of stupid mistakes which costing them rounds and he finishing map in like -15 kd. Xizt is pure trash, can't hit a barn, probably DMG matchmaking level or less, should delete the game asap. dude can't even understand in 2020 that u can't just walk on a map for a minute without any map control and then throw all nades in one site. they are met by 4-5 CT's almost every match because of his stupid calling. f0rest is still a strong player with good aim, should just join fnatic as a six player to replace exhausted guys sometimes. it would be good for him since he wants to travel less. probably still best all-around player in swedish scene.
2020-09-14 11:49
#134
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Sweden Lagge15
GtR got some good rounds and maps here and there, and as a 4th or 5th best player in a squad he still can contribute really well... but as a 3rd best player you got huge issues. I think there are a bunch of arguments for benching him, but I don't think it is necessary right away. Friberg went back to his old NiP role, while he has played much more fitting/suiting roles for him in Heroic, and even in GamerLegion. But as an entry or space creator he isn't fit anymore, because he know how to use utility, but not how to counter utility. His reaction and micro-adjustments aren't good enough and his time away from the game made his skill decrease to a level where he should just quit. I think Xizt could be a role player, but he can't be an IGL. If he can't even get decent looking executes with this roster, he can't do it with any roster. He could play a supportive element like he did in FaZe, but there are better players that can play those roles. I would like to see Dignitas change Xizt and Friberg and readjust the hierarchy of the team so that f0rest isn't the star, but the 3rd player, GtR will be the 5th player, new IGL (perhaps Torben) will be 4th player, Hallzerk and any other Scandinavian player will be 1 and 2... then they got a decent structure and depending on their IGL they can find fitting roles for all these players
2020-09-14 12:16
#141
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Faroe Islands staxus
there is almost no point in changing roles if 3/5 of their players can't consistently aim. it's time for them to stop being delusional and move on
2020-09-14 12:24
#143
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Sweden Lagge15
What I wrote there was take away Friberg and Xizt and bring in new players. So then they will have at least 4/5 who can aim
2020-09-14 12:26
What the fuck is Flashpoint team. I see it everytime in some articles, but I can't get it.
2020-09-14 12:30
#147
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Sweden Lagge15
Flashpoint is a new semi-franchised league put together late 2019. I will write a full article on it sometime in the future, hopefully before Flashpoint 2. The league is owned and ran buy the partnered teams, that buy their spot for $2M per team. They share the revenue and got $1M prize pool for each event. They planned to have 10 teams from the start, plus 2 qualifier spots, but currently it is 8 teams and 4 qualifier spots. Teams: Cloud9, MAD Lions, MIBR, Dignitas, FPX (no roster), c0ntact, Envy and Gen.G
2020-09-14 12:51
Is it basically teams that participate their tournaments are considered as the one flashpoint ones?
2020-09-14 13:46
#159
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Sweden Lagge15
The event is called Flashpoint, the Tournement Operator and organization is called Site B Inc The teams make the rules themselves, instead of just coming with suggestions as ESL and Blast teams does.
2020-09-14 13:52
Okay, but I asked different question, my man.
2020-09-14 13:53
#163
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Sweden Lagge15
I might misunderstood. but the list I wrote in #147 is the teams considered Flashpoint teams
2020-09-14 13:54
So basically yeah. Thank you for providing my man.
2020-09-14 13:56
Thank you for the link. I'll be sure to give it a read, thank you. :) It's a shame that your journalistic productivity is low at the moment but real life must always come first, unfortunately. I look forward to your next piece. :)
2020-09-14 13:44
Why is it unfortunately that real life must come first. That's pretty sure good.
2020-09-14 13:47
It's unideal and a pain in the arse.
2020-09-14 13:49
That's okay. Of course it's not good to live through life's everyday hardness, but if you won't be ready for it than shit will be even more rough.
2020-09-14 13:51
I agree. :) Real life sucks but it's a necessity to maintain in order to love life and it's rewards.
2020-09-14 14:08
Of course my friend.
2020-09-14 14:15
#157
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Sweden Lagge15
I wanna be clear - I don't look at myself as a Journalist, more content creator, analyst and hopefully a CSGO influencer in the future.
2020-09-14 13:50
Ah, my apologies, friend. I recall you stating that in a discussion we had in the past, yet I still neglected to respect that fact.
2020-09-14 13:52
#161
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Sweden Lagge15
thanks though I think it is because some parts of what I do would be considered journalism in esports perspective. But if that is journalism, we got an issue within the scene. I'd rather be a columnist than a real journalist.
2020-09-14 13:53
Yeah I agree - especially if you take RL and Thorin into account... Any affiliation with the aforementioned, be it journalistic or not, probably gives off the wrong idea; hence my apology. ^^ I prefer analysis to journalism anyway... it gives off a better sense of knowledge for the game. I used to write in-depth, analytical blogs back in the day but mostly it fell on deaf ears.
2020-09-14 13:56
#171
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Sweden Lagge15
Yeah, those two might be the reason people mistake analysis and content for journalism. They are journalists AND content creators. That means not everything they do is journalism. yeah I know, I am sad the blogs are taken aaway
2020-09-14 14:00
I personally don't think blogs will ever return and I guess I can understand why in the long run. Aside from you and I, there is only a few users I can think of that would utilise the blog features as intended.
2020-09-14 14:13
#190
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Sweden Lagge15
yeah, I know some people who left HLTV to write for other sites Quacke69 started to write for csnww csnww.com/author/quacke/
2020-09-14 14:16
Yeah, I'm really happy for quacke. It's truly a shame we can't see more of his content on HLTV but at least his talent is being utilised fully.
2020-09-14 14:24
#197
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Sweden Lagge15
yeah, and it is better exposure for the future for him. I am too old to do what he's doing. If I would grind through all that and get some paycheck in 2 years I wouldn't be able to make a living until I am a pensioner :D
2020-09-14 14:33
I don't think age is an issue but I can understand the point you're making. My current occupation is feasible as is at the moment, my dream job in the future is to probably be an author. I did try to make a novel but all the data was deleted in a series of freak accidents, so I'll stick to short stories and psychological studies for now. ^^
2020-09-14 14:39
#201
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Sweden Lagge15
similar stuff has happened to me The worst part of trying to be an author is finding time to write. I currently work about 40h a week, I study 20-40h a week, I am trying to finally get my drivers license and on top of that I try to stay current in esports When do I get time to write?
2020-09-14 14:52
I completely empathise with your time schedule... Whem my story fell through, it was about two years of work down the toilet. :(
2020-09-14 14:56
#208
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Sweden Lagge15
I wanted to become an author as well at one point. I got a huge story in my head, that is like a combination of Lord of the rings and Eragon but with a realm/lore more closely to Game of Thrones. But sadly I can't get the story out on paper to sound as it is in my head. So I killed that dream after several attempts to get it down in print
2020-09-14 15:00
Well I hope I get to read it one day into the far future. :) Always a pleasure to converse with you, friend. :) Till the next time our paths cross... Have a good day.
2020-09-14 15:47
jonty man i love to see u posting again. you are the best and least toxic brit online. please keep up ur positivism, its awesome men)))
2020-09-14 14:16
Thank you for the kind words, friend. :) Also, likewise. ^^ Have a wonderful day.
2020-09-14 14:21
u 2 mate!
2020-09-14 14:31
#168
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North America AlanSmith
wow f0rest is so consistent
2020-09-14 13:58
#172
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Sweden Lagge15
yeah it is insane. The weirdest thing is he get the same rating when they lose as when they win
2020-09-14 14:01
is a nice read. bumperinhohohoho
2020-09-14 14:05
#179
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Sweden Lagge15
thanks bro. Your name, what does it referr to? I can't recall anything about n0thing
2020-09-14 14:06
nothing actually, i just saw this nickname from another guy who was like "randompro who was a dick/cheated/whatever (he might have done something good actually) -didnothingwrong (i cant remember it correctly). and then i thought, well n0thing is actually a pretty decent guy so i thought i should clarify that he - indeed - did nothing wrong :D
2020-09-14 14:11
#184
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Sweden Lagge15
AlluDidNothingWrong?
2020-09-14 14:12
jeah maybe it was kio aswell i really cant recall it but i remember to have seen "alludidnothingwrong" in the forums, could be that u are right :D
2020-09-14 14:21
#257
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Sweden Lagge15
was a long time since I saw the Kio one!
2020-09-15 09:43
ive been around for a rather long time id say ;)
2020-09-15 15:06
#274
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Sweden Lagge15
Yeah, I think Kio one changed his name after Kio signed for Heretics, right? I wonder if we'll get something like DavidPDidNothingWrong or DevoduvekDidNothingWrong
2020-09-15 15:08
"Yeah, I think Kio one changed his name after Kio signed for Heretics, right?" oof, its not like i know him :D ure deeper into hltv than me. i am just a random shitter who likes to idle hltv for the good memes and then gets utterly surprised when there is legit content like ur piece of work or the mibr excuses thread. there was this hilarious fin who had this thread about his favourite books. that one i enjoyed aswell. "I wonder if we'll get something like DavidPDidNothingWrong or DevoduvekDidNothingWrong". that would be hilarious, but i think we have to wait alittle for that one to happen :D
2020-09-15 15:14
#276
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Sweden Lagge15
I just tried to think back when I saw the Kio name last time, and should be late 2019 People already forgot about DavidP and Devoduvek - unless you are a Heretics employee
2020-09-15 15:15
yes
2020-09-14 14:08
#183
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Sweden Lagge15
"maybe, maybe not, maybe f--------" - Mark Whalberg
2020-09-14 14:12
a smart man
2020-09-14 15:18
#231
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Sweden Lagge15
yes
2020-09-14 22:49
Yes
2020-09-22 11:42
#186
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Sweden sjobbab
Really, really enjoyed reading this. Think you are spot on with most of it. Regarding changes i don´t think DIG will do any tbh. It is painful to see and in my opinion GTR and f0rest is kind of embarrassing themselves and destroying the legacy that was their NiP-run. If i had to guess they will continue this PR-stunt / "playforfunbutnotreally" etc etc until early 2021, and then "retire" and claim that they have lost motivation for the game or blame COVID-19 or other health issues. God knows that GTR enjoys a good excuse to play shit, haha. Jokes aside, it is good to see the gang back together but the second they connect to the server and i have to watch Xizts dogshit calls midround, and Fribergs suicide-plays that did not even work back in 2014, i just can´t watch any longer. Keep it up dude, you clearly are a good creator of content like this. Have a good one!
2020-09-14 14:13
I dont know anyone who is waiting for your posts
2020-09-14 14:15
#191
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Sweden Lagge15
yet your comment is 188 most of the posts here have been discussing my blog post, or asked me about stuff for instance #5 #7 #43 #63 #152
2020-09-14 14:20
Who are you? Dignitas manager?
2020-09-14 14:42
#202
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Sweden Lagge15
If you read the post you would be sure I am not Fifflaren how come people assume I am connected to the teams I try to make content around? Same thing has happeend each time I write something about GamerLegion or Heroic
2020-09-14 14:53
dead since vega squadron 16-2
2020-09-14 14:32
#225
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Sweden Lagge15
Not really, that was 4 years ago
2020-09-14 18:53
they were washed up since end of 2016 they just fluked some oakland events
2020-09-14 21:24
#230
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Sweden Lagge15
I can agree one of them only had a few good games after VS 16-2, but even Friberg had a good time in Heroic, f0rest has kept being close to the top, GtR has his momnets and Hallzerk wasn't even born back then
2020-09-14 21:26
#200
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Argentina beenji
okay...
2020-09-14 14:43
#228
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Sweden Lagge15
okay...
2020-09-14 20:38
I want to give them more time
2020-09-14 14:54
#206
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Sweden Lagge15
9 months now How much time are you going to give a team that got 28.2 avg Age? 2 of these players haven't proven anything in 3 or 4 years
2020-09-14 14:57
I personally don't have any real hope that they'll accomplish much, but I will wait for a few months of lan play to have passed before I fully cast my judgement.
2020-09-14 22:56
#233
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Sweden Lagge15
Their average age is 28.2 right now, what will it be when the LAN starts? Isn't FP2 almost confirmed LAN already? You think they will do well against a new C0ntact, a new colossus, a new MIBR, a new Envy, a new FPX, a new MAD Lions and a new Gen.G as well as two qualified teams?
2020-09-14 22:59
I don't think they will, but honestly, just going along for the ride and hoping is fine for me.
2020-09-14 23:05
#236
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Sweden Lagge15
Not your money ;) They have invested more into Flashpoint than into the roster
2020-09-14 23:15
It's sad, I actually hoped for some comeback, but I guess that'll never happen. I'd guess the only option for them would be get right, forest, hallzerk with some good IGL and entry, which sounds a lot like the road NIP previously had, which also kinda failed.....
2020-09-14 15:25
#213
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Sweden Lagge15
yeah that's true. Perhaps get a new REZ and a good IGL Toft and Torben perhaps or have a Golden-like IGL and put in a supportive player like Kreaz... Robiin + Kreaz perhaps?
2020-09-14 15:36
Well I'm not really hardcore following the scene much anymore, I have no idea who Toft/Torben/Kreaz are ^_^ But yeah that's pretty much the idea :)
2020-09-15 10:02
#259
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Sweden Lagge15
It doesn't really matter If they wanna get the most out of their Flashpoint money they need aroster change asap
2020-09-15 10:04
Yeah with that I agree, as much as I dislike this situation.
2020-09-15 10:07
#268
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Sweden Lagge15
I just don't get it
2020-09-15 14:52
Not much to it, I just love the core players ever since the 1.6 times, I wish it could've work for them with the current line up, but it seems like it can't, that's all.
2020-09-15 15:06
#273
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Sweden Lagge15
Isn't it only 2 players from 1.6? Doesn't matter if you love them or not. Being a flashpoint team and have this roster doesn't really rhyme
2020-09-15 15:07
xizt, forest and get_right are former cs 1.6 players. And I didn't say it matters, I just said that I'm sad that it needs to happen, and I totally understand why it needs to happen(even though I hoped they would keep get_right instead of friberg).
2020-09-16 23:38
#308
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Sweden Lagge15
oh, I thought Xizt came from CSS like Fiffy and Friberg I have heard a rumor that GtR was benched due to his health.
2020-09-17 00:05
That would make more sense to me honestly..Seems like this might be the end for him, hope not, get_right and forest were my favorite players since 1.6.
2020-09-17 01:07
#311
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Sweden Lagge15
He has had a long and decorated career. It is amazing he didn't retire due to health issues earlier. But don't make the same mistake as a lot if other players and tarnish your legacy
2020-09-17 10:06
#212
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Portugal ImSad
The reason why dignitas chose to get this roaster is not for the kill in it self, it's how the marketing system works, have 5 players that are known and people love/used to love, so merch and stuff like that can be sold easily and in great quantitie, that the whole reason about the roater, at least in my point of view, correct me if im wrong but i guess no other team would hire this guys if it was for their their current skill and plays, not for the old ones
2020-09-14 15:29
#215
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Sweden Lagge15
yeah, that would make sense if they didn't invest into the b site project Flashpoint
2020-09-14 15:49
#219
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Portugal ImSad
oh i didnt knew that, my bad, should've checked the things first ^^, but i dont see the reason why would orgs be paying money for this, even being my self a big fan of the lineup, they arent the players that they used to be, but thanks for the information! aprecciated!
2020-09-14 17:32
#220
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Sweden Lagge15
You mean Dignitas? Last hurrah and a brand org. People might want the merch But do they sell enough merch to pay the FP fines?
2020-09-14 17:36
#221
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Portugal ImSad
for sure, dig logo is kinda great, their merch is beutifull and then you add the names they have on the team and they can make a lot of profit out of it, not to mention sponsors
2020-09-14 17:50
#222
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Sweden Lagge15
their new logo is shit though! You don't get profit if you get fined every time you look at the rankings
2020-09-14 17:55
#223
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Portugal ImSad
but the fines can be covered with the profits, remember not only the csgo team gives them money they have more teams in diffrent esport titles ^^ but yes i see what you mean!
2020-09-14 18:15
#224
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Sweden Lagge15
yeah but why opt for $2M buyin and fines instead of just not doing it? They could just not pay $2M + fines and be a regular ESEA team
2020-09-14 18:16
#226
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Portugal ImSad
I agree, but having the name on ESSA gives them a favourable position towards the others, IMO they are doing it because they can and because it gives them something, if not they wouldn't do it
2020-09-14 19:25
#227
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Sweden Lagge15
I just think it is contradicting to have this roster and speak about merch and sponsors and then spend more money on a league you won't be competitive in, because of this roster
2020-09-14 19:56
why would anyone care about a random's opinion around here? you either support the team or not, that's your choice. what they do it's their decision and their org's
2020-09-14 15:52
#217
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Sweden Lagge15
#5 #7 #43 #63 #152 216 comments seems like people actually care about my opinion. and this was after 3-4 hours twitter.com/lagge15/status/1304866967640.. seems like people actually like what I share. It is currently about 500 views and 400 visitors on this exact post. Seems like people actually care and you cared enough to comment on the post!
2020-09-14 16:10
#218
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Sweden Lagge15
sorry, those stats were incorrect. it is 1000+ views by 872 visitors
2020-09-14 16:36
i dont like when kids write bad about legends...
2020-09-14 23:06
#237
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Sweden Lagge15
lagge15.wordpress.com/about/ So because they are legends we should just look past their past year? How did that work out for VP and MIBR?
2020-09-14 23:16
just let them alone and search another hobby then show with a finger on others, probably u level 6 or something .
2020-09-14 23:19
#239
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Sweden Lagge15
You got no idea, but nice for trying Did you read anything before passing judgement? Legend has no value more than when we speak about history! And this isnt' to piss on the players, it is to talk about the contradictory approach from the ORG. If they wanna be in Flashpoint, they can't have this roster If they want this roster, they they can't be in Flashpoint They can have one or the other, but not both! That's what this is about
2020-09-14 23:33
i dont care if u critizies dignitas or a football club or some other sportsdudes or artists, i just dont like that , and in germany many guys will not like that behaviour m when u so smart and has so much knowledge and are in cs over years, why u post your analyzes in hltv forum? why not have an own clan, or a be an pro by yourself , or why not an analyzer on events ? ah u right, nobody cares about your opinion,because u are a nonamer
2020-09-14 23:45
+ i never archived anything by your own , and now u point the fingers on the other who fails, what a charakter....
2020-09-14 23:45
#243
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Sweden Lagge15
Did you read it? We all need to start somewhere this is just a hobby for me and sharing is caring And there is about 1100 people who disagree with you, since they actually read the post - which you obviously didn't And if Germans didn't like it, how come you still have analysts on esports streams and during traditional broad casts? If germans didn't like it, how come I got 10-20 germans following me on Twitter? If Germans don't like this, how do you explain #5 and #177 and If you don't care for this, how come you're writing 4 comments here?
2020-09-15 00:04
men cs community is a kidcommunity, we both are grandpas here, u think a real grown men cares about a tiert 2 cs team and how it plays.... oh wait.... u do.... i dont want to talk with u your arguments are liike wtf...i just go agressive,,,bye
2020-09-15 00:05
#246
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Sweden Lagge15
Did you read the article?
2020-09-15 00:06
i tried, but i had to quit
2020-09-15 00:08
#248
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Sweden Lagge15
Too short attention span?
2020-09-15 00:11
i just dont care so much, kind of boring for me, other thins are more entertaining for me i can do this short. xizt shit friberg megashit hallzerk overrated but ok forest good get right, rollercoster i dont know what u think they could do, they have womens,childs are over 30, washed up, streaming and playing other games, meanwhile some 18 year old nerds without friends grinding 14 hours cs a day, this team is done .... free forest for a good team, and let the others play tier 3 cs for fun and its fine
2020-09-15 00:15
#250
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Sweden Lagge15
i dont like when kids write bad about legends...
2020-09-15 00:16
i just teach u
2020-09-15 00:18
#267
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Sweden Lagge15
taught* and no. I just showed you how hypocritical you are
2020-09-15 14:30
no
2020-09-15 19:34
#298
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Sweden Lagge15
yes
2020-09-15 22:12
typo in first paragraph :)
2020-09-14 23:52
#244
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Sweden Lagge15
thanks
2020-09-15 00:05
f0rest could go on and make it alone on some tier1/2 team but he is a parent now and I think his priorities lies in spending as much time as possible with his family. Hallzerk could play for a better team, atleast in DIG he gets solid pay, exposure and decent practice in. Can transfer to another team in 6-12 months if he wants to further his career. Xizt is simply put not good enough to IGL and perform fragwise at the same time. If he did not need to IGL his performance would probably increase. And The other way around, if GTR and Friberg could frag a bit more Xizt could IGL better. Altough I think he would need assistence from a coach better then Fifflaren who is more of pat on the back coach. Threat could provide some good structure, just as an examples. Friberg and GTR is harder, both can have huge performances from time to time but far from often enough. All the above being said, all involved in the DIG csgo project knows what it is - a merchandise team that have no real ambitions of getting top 1 simply because that is not realistic. All are probably satisfied, a bonus would be to win a mid tier LAN with the lineup. Enough rant, I like DIG and all thier players so whenever they play I cheer for them. But in secret i bet on the other team, so I always win, hehe.
2020-09-15 00:47
#253
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Sweden Lagge15
You didn't read the full post, did you? Edit: sorry if I sound like an arse, I agree with you. But this isn't as much about the player, more about the conundrum that is the org
2020-09-15 01:11
I did not read your blog if that is what you mean. What is the conundrum for you about the team? All parties are in understanding what the team is about - not big titles, just exposure.
2020-09-15 12:10
#266
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Sweden Lagge15
I suggest you read the blog then Short version: Dignitas entered Flashpoint at the start of this roster It cost $2M to be partnered with Flashpoint You will be fined $100k if you're not top 20 in the world That is the conundrum and the contradictory between the ORGs approach to the scene Either they think the merch and publicity for having this roster will be enough to pay the partner fee and the fines or They thought this team could be top 20 and compete for the prize money of Flashpoint Look at the other Flashpoint teams: MIBR, Cloud9, MAD Lions, FPX, Gen.G, Envy and c0ntact MIBR changed more or less their whole roster when they figured out they won't be top 20 Cloud9 is rebuilding a top 1 contender FPX wanna buy a team or do what Cloud9 are doing or what CompLexity did 2019 c0ntact are trialing Spinx and Smooya as well as changing their IGL and most of their staff Gen.G is top 20 but will have a roster change MAD Lions have done one roster change and is rumored to do one or two more Envy only got 1 player that was part of the roster going into 2020 and only 3 players that were part of Flashpoint 1 All other Flashpoint teams are building to become much better than they have been in 2020. Most of them build to be top 1 contenders or at least a stable top 10 team If it was just for the merch, sponsorship and exposure, Flashpoint was a horrible idea. The ESEA route would have made much more sense
2020-09-15 12:20
dignitas +taco +fallen +fer stay: get right and forest all playing for fun
2020-09-15 10:10
#264
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Sweden Lagge15
You didn't read the article, did you?
2020-09-15 10:12
#269
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Philippines B3nk4i
good article man. Its really informative and decently researched. The only thing that i have to criticize is that the grammar is a bit weird in some places. but it doesn't really retract from the overall article. Good shit man
2020-09-15 14:56
#270
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Sweden Lagge15
thanks It is semi-rushed and written without much structure. I learn as I go and when doing it I realized my spelling is worse than it used to be as well as my overall flow of the English language.
2020-09-15 14:59
Maybe they should create a old guys league or something, where the members of the old teams in 1.6 and GO(GTR, NEO, zeus etc.) play each other in a tournament. They could even invite some current t1 and t2 teams. idk maybe this could work.
2020-09-15 15:18
#278
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Sweden Lagge15
I think both Spunj and Thorin have said this before, maybe RLewis as well
2020-09-15 15:20
#279
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France Salodreah
I dont watch them tbh, but considering the time passed as a roster like you said, they DEFINETLY need to either restart (big role change and adjustment) from the ground or change roster. Because right now, even tho they're legends. Some of them definetly have WAY PASSED their prime. Also the fact that the old NIP problem (Where 5th man is faulty) still exist to this day definetly baffles you (even tho i think Hallzerk is performing, i somehow have a feeling that they'll cut him if they lose DH RMR) I mean, OG struggled when online era start (esp. BLAST) but they're definetly getting better resultwise (just need less of the choking tbh)
2020-09-15 15:37
Very good text. It's fun to read about a team like Dignitas, not just top teams. However, I have been watching them from the very beginning, Ninjas in Pyjamas is my favorite team in the history of CS: GO and in my opinion there is no point in DIG to propose any changes, their team was created and was advertised as this NiP legend from 2012 and in my opinion even the players themselves they will not be willing to reshuffle the roster. They are four friends who have been playing together for years and the project called DIG is something that was not supposed to be a pressure for them and let them play at what level they want, without the nerves that they will be kicked out. If they find that they have done everything and are just too weak, then in my opinion all four will disband, leaving Hallzerk for the new team. I remember what GeT_RiGhT or f0rest in Ninjas in Pyjamas thought about the changes, they didn't really want these changes of cuting Xizt or Friberg and that's why, for example, f0rest preferred to leave the young NiP, and play with young players with a chance of some success in order to return to friends again and play with without calling them to the level. In my opinion, if DIG doesn't find a way to play better with tactics or role changes in the current squad, it will end up with all four leaving the team or simply playing tier 2 without any pressure on results.
2020-09-15 15:38
#281
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Sweden Lagge15
thanks a tip for the future - Start paragraphing - it is quite hard to read a bunched up comment as filled with facts and opinions as yours. That's my point. You either go for the NIP 2012 and 87-0 roster (all 5 friends, not just 4) or you go for Flashpoint. it is one or the other, not both - that is impossible and still keep it economicly viable
2020-09-15 15:51
You were right, I just see GeT_RiGhT and Xizt have left the team, so what you said Fifflaren would have a tough job of rejecting his friends from the squad, but he did it. But still, I completely don't understand why they left f0rest alone again, sooner or later and you know he'll go away, as it was in NiP, because he wants to play with GTR. Imo they should all disband, leaving young Hallzerk and choose good players for him, and possibly legends can play in their own circle, without the pressure of any organization in "their" team.
2020-09-17 12:44
#316
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Sweden Lagge15
I think it is possible to build the team Fifflaren spoke about in January. All they need is f0rest and Hallzerk and they will be fine
2020-09-17 12:56
#291
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Sweden Lagge15
I actually think Immortals got a blessings in disguise. They got so many nice options now. Perhaps they could keep kNgV- and trk and just do like C9, HenryG and Kassad are doing. You bring in a GM - this is the tought part - who start by getting a proper coach - which should be Peacemaker right now. Those two philosophise about how they wanna approach CSGO and build a roster. They build 5 roles to fit that philosophy. If the roles would suit kNgV- and trk, then you keep them and slot them in, then you go through the top 10 teams in BR right now and pick the best suited (not highest rated) players for the roles. For instance: AbleJ, iDK, b4rtin, Chelo, Yel, Felps... just pick and choose between these players, to build a competent roster. I think that would be better than any BR roster other than Furia right now. Or you just sell MIBR name and the two players. You restart a project with OpTic or Immortals brands and go international.
2020-09-15 16:17
There's such a deep pool of BR talent, but no one wants to organise it properly or pay buyouts etc. Would be a half decent idea to pick up meyern again and actually treat him like a star player. International seems interesting, but we still haven't seen a consistent top international team, so they should be sceptical about it
2020-09-15 16:20
#294
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Sweden Lagge15
They could actually have 2 teams. Have MIBR play Majors and Flashpoint and the other team play ESL and Blast. Then you can rotate players properly, not breaking the Valve rules, being able to help the players stress levels and health issues. But that aside. I don't think you need Luken, Meyern nor any other non-BR player to get a decent team. kNgV- as AWP, iDK/AbleJ as IGL, trk as support, b4rtin as star and Chelo or Felps as the entry FNX general manager, Peacemaker as coach
2020-09-15 16:25
FNX doesn't sound like a good pickup for GM given how half-assed he was as a player. He relied on natural talent and was one of the "party boys". Only problem with having 2 teams is that both will want to play the majors, it's the most significant tournament of the year and anyone who competes wants to play it.
2020-09-15 16:30
#296
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Sweden Lagge15
Yeah perhaps you got a point. I just mean he is a big name, a lot of in-game knowledge, he wasn't part of this cancerous thing we called MIBR 2018-2020 I don't know what other people would be possible. Gaules can't since he is locked up to Omelette, otherwise he might have had some ideas, even though he is literally insane. yeah, 2 teams won't make sense in this org. in other orgs it might make sense, but not in immortals.
2020-09-15 16:39
RiP
2020-09-16 18:10
congratulations
2020-09-16 18:19
#305
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Sweden Lagge15
hahaha thanks?
2020-09-16 18:35
Palm1 will take Get_Right spot mark my words mens
2020-09-17 01:09
#312
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Sweden Lagge15
I highly doubt it
2020-09-17 10:06
He said it on Elitserien stream like 1 week ago
2020-09-17 12:37
#315
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Sweden Lagge15
Ok, but I think this decision was taken quite quickly, or maybe I misunderstood something
2020-09-17 12:55
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