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South Africa LustedSilli 
So here's Thorin's latest comment about FalleN, who recently stepped down from MIBR for all 5 people who don't know already. twitter.com/Thorin/status/13058296062059.. Thorin: "FalleN is another member of CS:GO royalty where talent refuse to talk about who he is in 2020 and keep giving you the 2017 narratives in the hope he found a fountain of youth or time machine."
2020-09-15 13:28
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Stop giving this re*ard attention,ffs
2020-09-15 13:29
#3
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Finland Jodecast
Oh did Thorin trash talk loba lmao or why u so mad
2020-09-15 13:30
I dont give a F what did loba and throin had 2 years ago.this dude just talks nonsense about more successful persons than him and wants to stay relevant with that ...
2020-09-15 13:33
#9
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Finland Jodecast
Yeah, comparing someone a pro player with someone that hasnt been a pro player 1000IQ right there
2020-09-15 13:35
Thats not comparison,just sayn that for example fallen did more for csgo community than thorin. thats all.
2020-09-15 13:36
#17
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Finland Jodecast
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA worst joke of the day.
2020-09-15 13:38
Just found out u're OG fan,nvm
2020-09-15 13:42
#22
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Finland Jodecast
Is fan of Lobanjica Yeah please stop baiting
2020-09-15 13:43
you should beg Aleksib to stop choking on last rounds kkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk pathetic
2020-09-15 13:45
#25
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Finland Jodecast
At least aleksi has actually done something and has a future lmao
2020-09-15 13:45
Are you really comparing full time streamer loba and csgo pro aleksi rn? LMFAO
2020-09-15 13:46
#29
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Finland Jodecast
Just saying facts lmao Loba only good at being shit in fpl and crying
2020-09-15 13:47
Im literally talking about team and player u are cheering for and u started trashtalking full time streamer and fpl player loba for literally no reason,isnt this pathetic? btw,it was really enjoyable last rounds on last map vs Navi.
2020-09-15 13:49
#33
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Finland Jodecast
"Just found out u're OG fan,nvm" Well look who started it all Please gtfo of this thread
2020-09-15 13:50
jesus christ this is the most childish arguement ive ever read on this site
2020-09-22 16:21
loba is a balkan sub 3 digit iq lowlife imagine being a fan of him lol
2020-09-15 13:57
rek_t
2020-09-15 14:28
You criticised Thorin for talking shit about someone who is more succesful and has done more for the cs community and here you are talking shit about Aleksib.
2020-09-16 13:31
Came to read about thorin, got an argument about aleksib and loba which I enjoyed more in the end
2020-09-16 15:37
U literally started it lol. Imagine having zero self-awareness.
2020-09-24 07:09
#143
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CIS Arztyy
you're right about everything except " has a future" He is a washed up tier-2/tier-3 IGL with potato aim, so sadly no future for him after OG. Actually pretty sad to see this, he was a promising one
2020-09-16 10:37
#41
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United States Swadplan
georgian brain KEKW
2020-09-15 14:13
Just found out you're RETA*d, nvm
2020-09-21 09:51
#134
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Brazil baldok1
here’s where you lost it all pal, fallen for sure is one of the most important guys cs ever had...
2020-09-16 10:02
Was. Now he is a diva riding on past accomplishments shitting on a contract he signed.
2020-09-16 13:55
#198
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Brazil Fusin
u cant undo what is already done bro
2020-09-17 06:45
#255
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Denmark MeToxi
But you can add onto it. Which is what fallen is doing. Present overshadows past
2020-09-21 10:55
#277
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Brazil Fusin
what they have done is much bigger than what is happening, doesn't take a big brain to realise it
2020-09-21 21:55
#284
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Denmark MeToxi
Its called recency bias, look it up.
2020-09-22 08:23
#287
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Brazil Fusin
dont cry
2020-09-22 08:43
#202
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Brazil baldok1
so Columbus WAS a very important guy, we just study him cuz of hobbie... dude everything have a story, so fallen is one of the most important guys for cs
2020-09-19 06:27
Whats so important about Columbus?
2020-09-19 13:41
#204
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Brazil baldok1
go back to elementary school
2020-09-21 01:52
Hitler was very important guy :D
2020-09-21 04:07
#286
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Sweden Zolity
are you trolling? fallen has done a lot for the commnunity
2020-09-22 08:41
Look up the definition of comparison moron
2020-09-15 15:18
idk how to say it properly, i meant different thing there .
2020-09-15 16:26
+1
2020-09-15 16:20
this comment is hilariously misguided, but it made me chuckle so props for that hahahaha
2020-09-16 10:58
ty men)))
2020-09-16 13:21
newfag talking =D
2020-09-15 14:28
name checks out
2020-09-15 14:29
It does check out and also the fact that a newfag is trying to debate agaisnt Thorin is really funny
2020-09-15 14:31
he "trash" talk everyone to try and make himself relevant. dude is an absolute joke. doesnt know anything about games, I doubt he even finished super-mario but gives himself right to talk about people that earn 50k a month from gaming. Typical loser
2020-09-15 14:22
#58
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Finland Jodecast
he has a pretty big role in flashpoint and host shows with regular talent/pros joining him. Nobody gets to be in that role if they are who you described But you are probably fan of some washed up trash player that he called shit
2020-09-15 14:27
everybody that comes from UK or USA is something in flashpoint. ONLY...there are no others, wonder why. flashpoint was a joke as well 1st season. oh yes, and mibr was the best ranked team player there, and ginger ale is trying to trash talk him on twitter while being in organization of flashpoint. imagine that professionalism rofl. typical moron. evne admitted trying to kill himself, even his mates like richard lewis said multiple times that dude has mental problems, personality problems etc. just google it its not that hard. im a bit older than you (and him) so I remember all of that. nobody EVER liked him, most hated person in history of gaming lol
2020-09-15 14:35
#90
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Finland Jodecast
Dude, what has he being working for flashpoint to do with that mibr was a dogshit team and him saying it lmao
2020-09-15 14:54
considering you just said this I dont know if you even understand what you are talking about but I will try to explain it anyway. Imagine Adam Silver of the NBA writing on twitter that Atlanta Hawks are absolute dogshit and some players should quit. Imagine Aleksander Čeferin of UEFA saying "PSG shouldn't complain about referees, they are absolute dogshit. Dont know why they even bought Neymar, he was not good since 2017." Its just not how it works.
2020-09-15 15:12
#106
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Finland Jodecast
Dude, mibr is in a way worse place than any of those you listed, image them signing up to a league while there is a $2m prize pool but teams that fall outside of the Top 20 Rankings are subject to a fine of $100k. But yeah, you sure like for everyone to suck up to washed up trash and remind the audience of glory days that are gone a long time ago
2020-09-15 15:42
go to sleep kid. watch mr ginger ale nobody in csgo scene and continue to hate on pro players that earn monthly more than you in whole life. gg
2020-09-16 09:49
ah yes so your not able to criticize someone becuase they make more than you? mate theres no way your any older than 13
2020-09-16 10:31
you missed the point. but expected from uneducated 3rd word in your name
2020-09-16 17:39
You didnt have a relevant point everything you typed was falsified bullshit
2020-09-21 09:53
nt white flag
2020-09-21 13:40
0/8 loser keep crying
2020-09-21 16:45
They should say that about PSG. And look into their finances and ban them for about 5 years of continental competitions with man city.
2020-09-16 13:50
Imagine sucking thorins dick AHAHAAH
2020-09-15 14:50
+1
2020-09-16 09:50
+1
2020-09-21 20:42
+1, this guy is pathetic lmaooooo
2020-09-22 16:26
I agree. Valve should just ban fallen and we all good.
2020-09-15 13:32
+1
2020-09-15 13:46
#86
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Sweden Lagge15
Don't call him a r*tard, he has won 2 Majors!
2020-09-15 14:51
0/8
2020-09-15 14:51
Yes, stop giving the retard attention. Thorin is scum, trying desperately to be relevant. I dont even care if he is right or not. Make him disappear from the scene please. The same goes for his BFF. Yes Richard, thats you.
2020-09-16 14:00
#262
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Nigeria L0n35
The guy is relevant. All the top tier casting talent like him. He makes a good point and you are just mad it’s not an opinion you hold
2020-09-21 11:32
+1
2020-09-21 20:23
+1
2020-09-17 06:32
What he's saying here is 100% true
2020-09-17 06:42
he's right though now*
2020-09-21 04:15
wtf
2020-09-21 04:25
+1
2020-09-21 05:34
Yeah stop talking about fallen he is washed up
2020-09-21 06:24
+1
2020-09-21 10:35
+1
2020-09-21 11:16
+1 sometimes he can speak the truth but he usully just baits and atrracts attention
2020-09-21 20:32
+1
2020-09-22 06:46
+1 Thorin is like someone with 85 IQ pretending to be a MENSA member. It just doesn't work. 90% of his takes are baseless and his voice is so goddamn earsplitting I have to turn my volume to 0 whenever he starts talking.
2020-09-22 21:28
Don't like Thorin but he's got a point there.
2020-09-15 13:30
Me neither. Dude is annoying AF.
2020-09-15 14:31
yep.
2020-09-21 04:26
no
2020-09-21 04:25
+1 same
2020-09-21 08:42
+1
2020-09-23 12:07
sure thorin... not like Fallen has been displayed as he is now by everyone else anyway... Seems like if Thorin wants something to be true he just pretends like it is.
2020-09-15 13:30
+1
2020-09-21 09:48
+1
2020-09-21 09:48
man fallen has been "tactical genious" since they rekt 2 good teams in mirage in 2015 with pockect starts that nobody knew coz they were total nobodies in csgo. after that they just rekt everyone with skill for couple years. he is shit igl and idk why nobody notices. 2016-2017 all their wins were done with fallens scout and cold dgl. big tactics.
2020-09-21 11:14
Replace "skill" with "cheats" then +1
2020-09-21 11:30
tbh im with u there :-D literally every pro game back in 2016 was pure insanity in terms of weird ass impossible shots.
2020-09-21 11:32
Read all the excuses by Fallen here - embarrassing: dexerto.com/csgo/richard-lewis-mibrs-leg..
2020-09-15 13:31
#172
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Brazil Tangrovis
Richard Lewis is a idiot just like thorin
2020-09-16 17:48
#182
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India bigdong
*an flag checks out
2020-09-16 20:45
#190
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Brazil Tangrovis
K
2020-09-17 06:22
xdd grammar
2020-09-21 04:26
#308
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Brazil Tangrovis
Ok english teacher
2020-09-22 21:20
lol
2020-09-21 04:26
#254
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Portugal KLUKSA
salty bc mibr and fallen are a joke
2020-09-21 10:48
#309
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Brazil Tangrovis
Mibr joke, Fallen goat 😎
2020-09-22 21:25
hahahahah the man has 2 majors, he basically created a whole new scene, developed so much the game, gave so much... only a retarded like thorin can trash talk fallen. and btw fallen is still the best igl fragger the game has ever seen. imo fallen is the goat, don't need to reply tbf.
2020-09-15 13:35
gla1ve? i mean, maybe less fragger, but way better igl. 4 majors also ;)
2020-09-15 13:37
worse fragger.
2020-09-15 13:38
xaxa malding
2020-09-15 13:38
#135
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Austria SplasJ
He is delusional
2020-09-16 10:03
#113
VINI | 
Brazil VlNl
Yeah, gla1ve is a fucking mastermind of the game, but always not fragging, btw fallen strats is outdated, but in this year fallen was being a monster.
2020-09-15 15:57
72 adr monster omegalul
2020-09-15 17:16
#129
VINI | 
Brazil VlNl
0/8 i know you will be some virgin/hater and put HLTV stats LMAOOOOO fallen monster
2020-09-15 17:21
awpers typically have less adr than riflers
2020-09-16 13:58
yeah, they do, but 72 is so low for a 'monster', look at zywoo/s1mple adrs, those are monsters
2020-09-16 15:03
Imagine comparing 2020 fallen to zywoo
2020-09-22 16:18
FalleN has rarely showed himeslf against any top teams. I have only seen prime fallen against T2 NA teams in flashpoint
2020-09-16 15:14
#199
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Brazil Fusin
?????????????????? wtf
2020-09-17 06:47
+1
2020-09-15 13:37
#15
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Finland Jodecast
If he is such a good igl, why the fuck wasnt mibr even able to learn how to play nuke or inferno. And if he was such a good igl why didnt anything they tried even worked. When you are at a point that kng has to take over as igl then you are just trash at this point
2020-09-15 13:38
rn he is a washed up igl, i totally agree. still imo he is the csgo goat.
2020-09-15 13:39
its specifically made clear that it was only about last 2.5 years bro lol
2020-09-15 13:55
gla1ve wipes his ass with fallen LOL
2020-09-15 15:15
surely not csgo goat lol...
2020-09-21 06:57
twitter excuse goat for sure. going strong since he became relevant at 2015.
2020-09-22 10:09
best fragging IGL? xd nexa, niko, gla1ve, tabsen, blameF playing golf lol
2020-09-15 15:00
0/8 niko +1 all left
2020-09-15 17:17
But NiKo isn't a good IGL
2020-09-21 20:50
Fallen's strats weren't either
2020-09-23 15:56
good job, you proved thorins point - living in the past
2020-09-15 16:33
Then why can’t he find a 5th player and why can’t he beat Wisla krakow and Copenhagen flames
2020-09-16 10:34
No hat no majors. It was a genious tactic while it was allowed.
2020-09-16 13:51
yes
2020-09-21 04:27
xd
2020-09-21 04:27
#225
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New Zealand rOtten_97
gla1ve, nexa, TabseN, hampus, Golden, BlameF, CadiaN, Chopper, arT and many more I'm forgetting and far better than FalleN both fragging wise and team-leading wise. Stop living in the past, its bad for your mental health
2020-09-21 05:01
#288
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Sweden Zolity
+1
2020-09-22 08:43
Thorin: "FalleN is another member of CS:GO royalty where talent refuse to talk about who he is in 2020 and keep giving you the 2017 narratives in the hope he found a fountain of youth or time machine." You: hahahahah the man has 2 majors, he basically created a whole new scene, developed so much the game, gave so much... only a retarded like thorin can trash talk fallen. and btw fallen is still the best igl fragger the game has ever seen. not sure if bait tbh
2020-09-23 12:12
#12
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India somecunt
Caring about Thorin's comments lul
2020-09-15 13:37
+1 Thorin's a professional baiter.
2020-09-15 14:33
xd
2020-09-21 04:28
sad clown
2020-09-15 13:42
2 updates expanding on Thorin's opinion: twitter.com/Thorin/status/13058321741433..
2020-09-15 13:43
#31
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Sweden go0s3
hi
2020-09-15 13:48
And u agree with this idiot who is dedicating on past 4 years shit talking about brazilians
2020-09-15 14:08
Thorin did nothing wrong tbh
2020-09-15 14:10
Fallen and mibr indeed has some attitudes to be judged But if u are a little bit smart or honest with yourself , u will realize there are a "unconcious" or even a "necessity" to be biased on a negative side cause since beggining (when they start winning) they bothered first worlders who were used to na x europe enviroment, they were personas non grata, they were the unwelcomed visitors in a place people think belonged only for them Its not the victim card, its reality
2020-09-15 14:17
They weren't hated in the beginning lul People started to hate them because SK players acted like pieces of shit and became unlikeable. Btw mibr got a lot more hate this year alone than ever before. Gambit (3rd worlders) also won a major and no one hated them at all because they were nice guys (and still are).
2020-09-15 14:19
Thorin calling them monkey when they still LG Ok, dream with your lies
2020-09-15 14:20
Thorin is one person lol I wonder why the furia guys dont receive any hate even though they are pretty solid #2 team in NA?! Maybe because they aren't pieces of shit?
2020-09-15 14:21
Because they havent winning nothing And the hate still targeting mibr (was at least) If lg/sk didnt win shit, only playing decent, being a top 10 team but never taking the "main spot" (winning majors, big events, best player of the year) wouldnt be so many hate
2020-09-15 14:24
Mibr is also not winning anything and they are still hated af. They are more hated than during they time they won tournaments. LG was never hated more than any other top 1 team, stop making shit up.
2020-09-15 14:34
I call this deaf talk
2020-09-15 14:37
prove me wrong then there is no way they were more hated than fnatic was back in the day
2020-09-15 14:38
I would respect more europeans if they confessed "Yeah, we dont like u here, thats why we will hate" Would be at least honest
2020-09-15 14:25
Yeah, we dont like u here, thats why we will hate sorry braziliano friend, its the truth
2020-09-16 15:11
Yes, i know :)
2020-09-16 17:42
#227
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New Zealand rOtten_97
Do you know why people started calling them monkeys? Not because they are from brazil or their skin is a little darker. Its because of their behavior. They legit throw tantrums whenever they win or loose. Its not connected to race at all. They were legit acting non-civilized animal-liked, hence the "monkey" term. No one gives two shits where you are from, or who you are, as long as you act like a decent human being, no one will bother you
2020-09-21 05:09
Gambit not the same thing at all.
2020-09-15 14:21
holyshit man go read the #5. those are some thick fangoggles
2020-09-22 10:13
The same for brazilians hate here on hltv When we arrived was not to cause fights, but soon we realized we bothered and hate and racism towards us made us act in a defensive way, and strike back.
2020-09-15 14:19
victim card
2020-09-15 14:31
Make a experiment Change your flag for a br one You will see how people will care less or insult u cause of nationality even if u are talking serious about a subject In the past i had accs with other flag and i had smooth times here :)
2020-09-15 14:35
ultra mega viiiiiictim card plaaaayed. Strong signature move by br.
2020-09-15 14:36
Lol
2020-09-15 14:37
dude just do it. you`ll see.
2020-09-15 14:42
dude look my flag.
2020-09-15 14:46
better start working on getting rid of your victim complex or else you'll end up with paranoia
2020-09-15 14:17
Maybe he wouldn’t have to if you stoped sending him death threats and calling him a clout chasing regard then he wouldn't have to
2020-09-16 10:42
And u an idiot, u can ban me if u want since u have the power to do so
2020-09-15 14:10
nah ok thats just fucking retarded
2020-09-15 14:56
aaa
2020-09-21 04:28
#23
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Netherlands p2dr
Thorin is another member of talent washups where talent refuse to talk about who he is in 2020 and keep giving you the 2017 narratives in the hope he found a fountain of youth or time machine
2020-09-15 13:44
#47
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Finland Jodecast
Dude, he has a pretty big role in flashpoint and host shows with regular talent/pros joining him. How is that washed-up?
2020-09-15 14:20
you gotta stop blowing him off dude, we all get it already
2020-09-15 14:30
#92
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Finland Jodecast
Dude, thorin has his problems, but this site is just full of mentally retarded kids with accs from 2019 and their long time memory even worse
2020-09-15 14:56
Just stop caring about it, this forum sucks
2020-09-15 16:13
Imagine thinking trash point is actually something to be proud of
2020-09-16 10:19
lol
2020-09-21 04:28
Thorin says literally anything to stay "relevant" he knows that he will only piss of Brazilians with this
2020-09-15 13:46
#43
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Finland Jodecast
True, brazilians never done anything wrong, everyone else is just racist
2020-09-15 14:16
omfg. ok the answere to everything now is to just": lets not listen to him, he is playig the victim card.... no dialog.
2020-09-15 14:40
dialog != crying 24 / 7
2020-09-15 14:48
#81
VINI | 
Brazil 1930
6/8
2020-09-15 14:48
nah I'm just saying that his surfing on the hype of hating Brazilians/mibr that you can't agree that isn't real
2020-09-15 16:13
brazilians have done everything possible to deserve the hate in the scene. kng- made a death threat against another player, gaules & cohorts (mibr) used their influence to send an army of brazilian goons against chaos, what more? there are plenty of other cases. btw this was not the first time fallen has sent his crazy fans after players. hiko needed bodyguards because of the shit brazilians done. there is no HYPE around the hate. it's just distrust & active dislike of brazilians, because clearly they are not very ethical sportsmen, if we look at mibr/gaules actions.
2020-09-16 10:28
nah, is the same thing by saying that all germans are nazi or all Americans are fat Always generalizing and surfing on this hype because no one say a thing word about how this is wrong
2020-09-16 15:46
your example is not even remotely the same. imagine if gla1ve made the same type of comments on twitter as fallen did or for that matter threatened to kill someone the social media backlash would be INSANE and no one would be crying about people hating on danes. simple fact is that the danes don't do that type of toxic shit on social media. the fact that the members of the biggest team in brazil has done it sets them below everyone in ethics and also that there is such a huge history of abuse by brazilians makes the social media backlash entirely justified. i think that (mibr) brazilians have failed to appreciate the position they have put themselves in. as people of huge publicity they should have learned years ago that they just can't say what they want and do what they want on social media, because there are huge consequences for misbehaving like their fans going monkeying around & threatening others with violence. yes, i say monkeys, because even as much as i like teams from my region i still wouldn't threaten someone with violence and i would have big questions for those that would. also as a point i'd clarify that actions of a few can affect the reputation and behavior of an entire group, therefore when kng- makes the kind of comment publicly on twitter where he threatens to kill someone and reportedly walked around the hotel trying to find that person he sets an extremely bad precedent for behavior for his audience.
2020-09-16 16:52
i'm not gonna read this whole bs but you know that really is a hype about hating Brazilians and I already saw a lot of other countries guys saying something nice about us and getting hate you don't see how mental illness you are judging a whole country giving the fns/kNg example? You think he and his kids fans reprent us? With kind of person you are?
2020-09-16 23:45
well, believe it or not, you not reading the whole thing only makes my argument stronger and accusing me of mental illness is just a sign that you actually don't have an argument yourself (attacking my person isn't an argument, it's just ad hominem - let me show you). it's not my fault that you have the attention span and level of understanding of a child that you are unable to read longer comments that go into detail, which is necessary for a higher quality discussion. see? i can insult you far better than you can insult me and you've provided the ammunition for it yourself-- just like the brazilians have provided the ammunition for everyone else.
2020-09-17 06:30
you didn't gave an argument at all your just giving an opinion, generalizing and using eufemism to make your sentences bigger and look like an smart guy well done dude
2020-09-17 06:32
how would you know i'm generalizing brazilians if you didn't even read the whole thing? i clarified in the last paragraph of #169 that the actions of a few can affect the reputation and behavior of an entire group. i made that point extremely clear and to support what i said in the second paragraph, but since you didn't read the whole thing, so you wouldn't care about that. AND OH, so my ad hominem attack is an euphemism? what, should i have called you a monkey instead, so you can claim racism and be a victim instead of a moron?
2020-09-17 06:42
The only thing I read was "brazilians have done everything possible to deserve the hate in the scene". And it's more than enough to know that you are generalizing /close
2020-09-21 05:08
/open just suck it up and be a man. admit there's a problem. look at the russians, etc. they are completely aware there's a huge toxicity problem, but they're not going around crying racism when people hate them because of it. /close
2020-09-21 06:09
Now you just changed your argument, lol. This tactic of victim blaming is just so old and stupid, try a new one plz.
2020-09-21 06:35
"victim blaming" yeah right. you are so victimized, because people are calling out brazilian bullshit on social media. fallen & cohorts have been repeatedly caught aggravating circumstances to the point where their fans start sending death threats.. "oh no it's not brazilians its just mibr" --> this is the biggest cs:go org in brazil, which historically has enjoyed a shit ton of publicity. how about kng who publicly threatened to kill someone on twitter and then went around the hotel trying to find said person? man, these people sure set a fine example for their fans. it is no wonder that this threat of violence exists primarily within the brazilian cs:go scene. back when hiko was still relevant and was in brazil, he had to hire bodyguards.. and MIBR DIDNT EVEN EXIST THEN. so we know this human garbage fanbase has existed for at least 5 years now.
2020-09-21 08:35
You want to call some bullshit out? Call the people that did it, not BRAZILIANS. Because I am brazilian and I didn't anything, neither supported it. Don't you see the problem? You still on the victim blaming, sir. Time to chage your mind.
2020-09-21 16:07
"call the people out that did it" yes. fallen, kng, taco, let's goo!
2020-09-21 18:08
Thats it. Finally you understood. So, next time you are talking about the matter, use them, not Brazilians.
2020-09-22 05:33
lol no my point is that it only takes 1 gaules to send an army of brazilians on twitter threatening 16yo kids with death. the fact that these people don't apologize for their behavior and call out their toxic fans is ridiculous.
2020-09-22 05:37
Gaules did apologize. Anyways, I am not here to discuss someones acts, wrong or not. But the way people are mistakenly being addressed because of that.
2020-09-22 06:27
it shouldn't even be possible for gaules to do it. imagine all the aleksib/karrigan fans sending death threats to their former teams. it just doesn't happen and it's even beyond the realm of possibility.
2020-09-22 06:42
Wait? What? Are you confounding possibility with etic?
2020-09-22 16:12
i'm just saying that gaules/fallen/whatever should tell their fanbase to stop being retarded but i guess they can't do that when they derive all the income from them
2020-09-22 16:15
It seems like you already understood my point and for some reason don't want to end the discussion. I agree. /close
2020-09-22 17:37
yo
2020-09-21 04:29
#30
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United States SWiFTzZzZz
I mean he’s not entirely wrong. Fallen is a shell of himself individually and as a caller post 2018 than what he was in years prior
2020-09-15 13:47
not entirely wrong? what part about this is even debatable lol
2020-09-15 13:56
ool
2020-09-21 04:29
facts
2020-09-15 14:10
bUg fan kekw only major winners can say anything about that
2020-09-15 14:23
thats not how it works
2020-09-15 14:31
not for you cuz br 2x major german????
2020-09-15 15:35
LG 1 major (american) SK 1 major (german) BR 0 major why even talk with that flag?
2020-09-15 15:40
major trophie is with the players not with the org by the way br 2x majors
2020-09-15 15:41
LG 1 major Sk 1 major br 0 major br 0 relevant orgs, you should be ashamed
2020-09-15 15:42
major trophie is with the players not with the org by the way br 2x majors
2020-09-15 15:44
br 0x majors How many majors happened in brazil btw? Seems like brazil irrelevant country but whatever...
2020-09-15 15:44
we like more win in your country good memories in cologne hltv.org/events/2062/esl-one-cologne-201.. hltv.org/events/2635/esl-one-cologne-201..
2020-09-15 15:46
Winning major for german org, ty
2020-09-15 15:47
only in this way to germans win anything
2020-09-15 15:48
Why should we do the hard work when we can let brazilians work for us? Only way brazilians win anything is after leaving brazil. Kinda sad isn't it?
2020-09-15 15:51
obv no we are conquering territory like EU in 1500
2020-09-15 16:15
#174
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Brazil Tangrovis
0/8 logic
2020-09-16 17:54
hold u there
2020-09-21 04:29
thoorin is a bitch /closed
2020-09-15 14:23
being an asshole/bitch doesn't automatically refute their position.
2020-09-16 10:11
and that doesnt refute my position
2020-09-16 13:04
no, but thread not /closed
2020-09-16 13:46
does people actually care about what Thorin thinks and says? Dude's a retard... I wouldn't be surprised if Richard Lewis gets on board of this whole thing too
2020-09-15 14:24
the thing is for a very long time hes right for the first time with it lol
2020-09-15 15:03
He might be, but it's way too fucked up being known only to be an asshole rather than a respected analyst. And that's all his fault
2020-09-15 16:14
true... still i respect him as "esports historican" since he knows hella lot about esports past
2020-09-15 16:31
Oh for sure, I would never deny what he's done for the esports
2020-09-15 16:34
He got 600 likes so there are definetly quite a few people out there that care about him
2020-09-16 21:21
I don't think having favs on a tweet determines the agreed ratio, it's quite relative tbh
2020-09-17 03:01
#57
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Portugal joaosenra
Just stop giving this Thorin retard attention, he is 100% retarded.
2020-09-15 14:26
He's on point at this one. If he didn't act like a 14yo on twitter he would be taken more seriously
2020-09-15 14:49
#84
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France FrighTyyy
He is right
2020-09-15 14:50
Why I expected a positive thought from Thorin?
2020-09-15 14:51
funny how only little brazilian fanboys cant accept their daddy fallen sucks xd everyone else who isnt biased knows that thorin is right here :D
2020-09-15 15:02
If you dismiss Thorin's points by simply saying "he's a retard" instead of actually rebuting his arguments, you're a retard yourself.
2020-09-15 15:17
No u. Thorin is just an attention whore at this point.
2020-09-16 18:57
>retard
2020-09-16 20:40
this a retard right here
2020-09-21 04:41
#100
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Denmark thekr4k3n
This Thoorin guy is obviously begging you to give him attention, and you just did it, congrats boy.
2020-09-15 15:20
everyone in the professional cs:go sphere is begging for attention. EVERYONE. even the players. no exceptions. kind of an inane thing to say and this garbage team mibr with its dumpster fire is a perfect target to talk about.
2020-09-16 10:14
#149
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Denmark thekr4k3n
yes they are, brazilians are salty and get offended pretty easy. Talk shit about brazilians and they will give you plenty of attention.
2020-09-16 13:10
exactly, the perfect audience minus the death threats.
2020-09-16 13:47
lol
2020-09-21 04:29
Damn Sherlock,a person on social media wants attention,I would've never thought this would be the case
2020-09-16 21:20
#201
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Denmark thekr4k3n
Thorin is a different case, he attacks everyone on his radar, the one that gives him more attention is the one he will focus. Pretty obvious.
2020-09-17 19:42
hardly an attack, more of critic towards his colleagues than fallen tbh
2020-09-22 10:26
yeah
2020-09-21 04:30
I agree with thorin on this one.
2020-09-15 16:09
I dont like Thorin, but hard to not agree with him on this one.
2020-09-15 16:18
I hate to agree with this attention whore, but he's right
2020-09-15 16:35
aaa
2020-09-21 04:30
Not a fan of Thorin but he got the point right there
2020-09-16 09:53
Thorin GOAT
2020-09-16 09:57
+1
2020-09-16 10:34
hes absolutely right this time
2020-09-16 11:04
#147
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Korea XigNw0w
True
2020-09-16 11:43
Even though he's being a dick, he's right. MIBR pretty much ride on their past glory. Unlike relatively competent furia.
2020-09-16 13:26
He's right.
2020-09-16 13:28
Oh yes another rant of this retard that no one gives a shit about. I'm so glad to see him out of every tournament, that's what you get for being a big mouthed clown. Stay irrelevant.
2020-09-16 13:35
Im apparently blocked by Thorin so....
2020-09-16 15:12
lmao me too. No idea why :D
2020-09-16 18:58
Think he just blocks everyone that likes/leaves any type of criticism on his tweets Wouldn't be surprised if he has blocked thousands
2020-09-16 18:59
LUL. Ironic for a guy who makes a living off of criticizing and talking shit about others. How tf do people in the scene even tolerate this guy? Maybe he's just an occupational hazard that they have to deal with.
2020-09-16 19:52
hes objectively right
2020-09-16 17:50
#175
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Turkey TheKaiser
I don't like Thorin and I don't agree with him. He's just desperate for attention.
2020-09-16 18:01
he's right lol fallen is irrelevant since 2017 even mibr was carried by tarik and stew when it was founded
2020-09-16 19:02
Thorin, a ridiculous oldman
2020-09-16 21:24
I find that most of the people that hate Thorin are either blind fanboys or stupid people. Not even a huge Thorin fan but he has a lot of good points even though I do not always agree with him.
2020-09-16 23:49
such a braindead take. when does talent ever talk about players being shit? aside form braindead talent, such as thorin, who for that very reason doesn't get invited anywhere anymore. unless i've missed something, casters were calling it as it is, that mibr fell off but they still had the potential to beat anyone because they did in the past. that's exactly what people said about NIP, VP, fnatic after the break up and reunion etc. talent knows those teams were great and therefore hypes them up to create more excitement. you never hear talent just say it is as it is: "team A isn't good anymore so team B should roll them ez pz, this game shouldn't even be close". did he also want talent to talk smack about NIP and GTR getting worse and worse? neo? it's not like people didn't realize those players aren't able to perform on the same level they did in their prime but why the fuck would anyone put them down? i don't recall him ever talking about likeable legends like that cuz he knows he'll get rekt by everyone. but hey, fallen is brazilian and everyone loves to shit on brazilians so i guess it's fair game. what really irritates me is this holier than thou "he has done more harm than good". like who the fuck are you to make that judgment? it's not like fallen is obliged to sacrifice his own happiness and his own ambition to promote that of others. he's done a lot for BR cs as it is, which cannot be said about many other pro players. i'm not aware of him actively harming BR scene either. what's his point then? that the dude is hogging a spot for other talent or something? that could be said about any under performing or old pro, but somehow he has to highlight fallen. seriously dude just gtfo. what did YOU do for cs go? what did you do for cs in general? oh that's right you cover it in news articles that bring you money through ads and sponsorships. so fucking noble.
2020-09-17 03:36
+1
2020-09-17 06:31
Good take Thorin isn't daring or iconoclastic for taking an unnuanced negative take on every divisive issue, he's just riding with the unprofessional toxic crowd. Professeur's hot take after the fact, in about 25 words shed more light on the issue. Thorin's main issue is that he is a never have, never was prick who couldn't put himself in the shoes of the professional players he so dearly tears apart even if he were hired to "analyse" them.
2020-09-21 05:20
"he is a never have, never was prick" Prolly makes more off his patreon in a month than you do yearly and hes been involved with esports and journalism for about 20 years now. Do you have any relevant points?
2020-09-21 09:57
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>274 patrons Nah, even for a fraud, rent-seeker he's not doing squat.
2020-09-23 04:39
nt loser
2020-09-24 03:17
You can't be sure because I'm just some guy on HLTV, but yeah I could flex on Thorin easy and oh boy just wait until I'm also a 53 year old boomer
2020-09-24 03:46
So boring, gtfo loser
2020-09-24 04:02
Tell me what you do, bud I haven't played a video game on my computer in over a year, I do tech stuff through my day job and my business Lemme guess, DJ with italian gf?
2020-09-24 04:05
yawn, go find someone who cares
2020-09-24 04:07
Ah, from the first I thought you "doth protest too much". Cya, actual loser
2020-09-24 04:07
0/8 stay seething
2020-09-24 06:50
Well done, defensive "apathy" is hot strategy right now. Could you prove you or Thorin is worth 2 shekels rubbed together though? Not sure why you keep dodging the question, help me here!
2020-09-24 06:53
Nothing to be defensive about kid, you're annoying and ignorant thats all
2020-09-24 11:59
did u follow the cs scene only last 2 days? coz brazilians are untouchable in the scene. literally to's and orgs afraid of getting shot apparently if they start forcing rules on them. or so it seems like.
2020-09-22 10:49
what, like guilty tripping the best team in the world because you didn't renew their contracts and then blaming it all on their IGL? like suspending and then firing the best player on a team because of twitter drama? like fining a POC player for rAcIsM? like blowing hacusation out of proportions and pretending it's this new perverse evil that has never been done before even though everyone and their mother had accused this or that player of cheating and that includes pro players, analysts and even some "historians". yeah okay bro, im obviously new to scene, please enlighten me.
2020-09-22 18:56
holyshit man. do u think they are only players ever to receive critic? and throwing out death threats and actually punching ppl, shouting racists slurs is hardly any less than for example players like freakazoid did which was that he "bullied" the biggest bully in the scene and look at where is he now. and has no swede ever received hack accusations? get your head out of ur ass monkey.
2020-09-23 03:56
1. says brazilians are untouchable 2. has been provided with ample examples of brazilians getting rekt by orgs and media 3. bUt oTHeR PlaYeRs aLSo ReCieVe cRiTic i get it, some people aren't particularly bright and have a hard time understanding the arguments they are presented with, but imagine being you, having such a low iq you don't even understand your own arguments. smh my head punching ppl, shouting racist slurs, defuq are you even talking about? what's next? it was actually mibr behind jfk assassination? and as for swedes, that's exactly the point i was making you clueless muppet. a bunch of swedes (and not only swedes) had been accused of hacking in the past. thorin himself had an episode about flusha calling him the most suspicious pro player in the scene. were any of those pros who had accused other pros or simply stated they think some of their plays are fishy, called out for doing that or blamed for the death threats a player received? should thorin and RL be held responsible for the death threats flusha received? to save you time, since you obviously have no idea what the argument is about, i've never said brazilians are blameless. the taco "are you mad cuz im not" brain fart was retarded and he should have paid for it. unlike the freakzoid drama, that shit wasn't justified whatsoever. if he let it stay on the server then whatever but trying to rile up shit on twitter cuz he got knifed in game is stupid. IMT headset drama etc. now reread #189 and try to use all of your 20 brain cells to comprehend the point i was making. brazilians being faultless wasn't it.
2020-09-23 08:44
lmao tell me one player outside br who is laying death threads on other players or literally shown violent behavior 100% unpunished. or done such put bursts as fer and not been benched or even banned. best igl of all time was banned for years early years of csgo coz unsportsman like behavior. u are just fucking delusional.
2020-09-23 12:02
so you agree with me that brs aren't untouchable as you claimed them to be, and that your comment in #298 was braindead. see, it wasn't that hard. now try really hard, and i mean really really hard because with your iq it's not an easy task and explain to me what any of that has to do with #189. gl
2020-09-23 17:47
Thorin is a douche but he is right about FalleN. He could not improve the last 2-3 years.
2020-09-17 06:30
How can fallen blame mibr for kicking bots. Blame urself for being trash last 3 years.
2020-09-17 07:04
thorin = invalid opinion
2020-09-21 04:32
this thread again? or i'm inside a time machine?
2020-09-21 05:10
Thorin NO Stop giving him attention *Left esl cus flashpoint gave him more money (instead calls esl shit at doing groups and seeding the reason for leaving)*
2020-09-21 05:35
#236
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North America joeS
He's got a point though. Fallen doesn't get any hate whatsoever from the fans and it's actually wild.
2020-09-21 06:39
Honestly I dont even like fallen or Niko but the way he disrespects them just makes me sad sometimes. Guy is clearly a moron trying to be relevant
2020-09-21 07:22
why hate thorin? 1) he is mainly flaming the talents, not fallen. 2) he doesnt say fallen has done more harm. he says that he can make a strong case. thats a big difference! there are many good arguments for that!
2020-09-21 08:58
Anyone can be a Thoorin. I dont know how he gets so much attention, he is basically hltv in one person.
2020-09-21 09:04
No cause he actually uses facts and relevant arguments. Please actually argue the point, not use ad hominem.
2020-09-21 09:56
No no no, you forgot the part where he is toxic and disrespectful to stay relevant, cuz his arguments are weak/scarecrow fallacies and no one would listen to him otherwise. Here for example: " He's the only IGL I've seen where they place zero blame at his feet for achieving gatbage results and having players rot on the vine over and over. You guys owe him money or something? " Fallen was blamed a lot by the brazillians and tried a lot of things to make it work on mibr, also, there is no better IGL or awper available in brazil, so kicking him would be actually worst. All the players that played for Fallen played cuz they wanted to and also got paid for it.
2020-09-21 10:32
Also, Thorin contradicts himself saying that FalleN is the only IGL he has seen which got no blame for garbage results when he just included FalleN in NiKo's group. As I said, he is just hltv in one person: a lot of stats to analyze + disrespect + very few good arguments.
2020-09-21 10:38
weak/scarecrow fallacies Name some instead of being a hater actusll explain how its a fallacy
2020-09-22 13:03
I just did my friend, can you read?
2020-09-22 16:21
0/8
2020-09-24 03:17
#280
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Brazil Catatauu
+1 Lol no better way to describe him, also Richard Lewis is jumping the same boat.
2020-09-22 05:57
Thanks for linking the tweets, cant see them on Twitter since im blocked (:
2020-09-21 09:57
was this in english or am i just retarded and need to go to bed?
2020-09-21 10:45
Thorin is actually smart, the only guy that isnt scared to say what he thinks tho.
2020-09-21 11:15
thorin is typical guy who trying to get attention by telling opposite and dumb opinions.
2020-09-21 11:17
#272
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Australia Ohnorepo
Except this one seems to perfectly sum up the usual conversations MIBR players, including Fallen, were having at the time.
2020-09-21 20:28
Thorin and Fallen both suck end of story
2020-09-21 11:28
TH OMEGALUL RIN
2020-09-21 13:43
hes right as always
2020-09-21 16:21
Thorin is another member of esports HISTORIAN royalty where talent refuse to talk about who he is in 2020 and keep giving you the 2017 narratives in the hope he found a fountain of youth or time machine.
2020-09-21 16:31
The fact that journalists and casters who don't even have MGE rank in MM get to analyze and say shit and get attention is amazing
2020-09-21 20:30
The fact that bus and truck drivers who don't even design and build cars in the factory get to drive, pick up passengers & cargo is amazing. ---> genius logic bro. its almost as if you can have an expert opinion built on statistical facts based on people playing on the server. "gee, but that's not how it works" you need to first be a FORMULA ONE driver before you can actually comment on whats happening!
2020-09-22 08:31
LMAO the example you used is completely irrelevant and is not logical at all. It would be correct if you said "The fact that people who don't drive cars comment on how bus and truck drivers should do it, is amazing." that's analogical to what I said The fact that bus and truck drivers who don't even design and build cars in the factory get to drive, pick up passengers & cargo is not amazing at all. I didn't say these "experts" should be professional players too, I only said that Thorin, for example doesn't even have a mge rank. In chess, for example, people who cast top tier games, are usually grandmasters or international masters, at least, and it makes casting really interesting, and at least it makes sense. I just hate the fact that a person who doesn't really understand anything within the game, doesn't really understand roles and real in-game reasons of faze's falure, he can't and doesn't analyze the rounds, he can't analyze, who really in this team doesn't do his job, which leads to round losses, he can only look at the surface. I'm so sure about that because I myself can do THE SAME conclusions that Thorin usually makes, and I am a noob at the game, and these people get to criticize people who are one of the best at what they're doing
2020-09-22 09:13
Thorin is toxic af and sometimes he says stupid things, but he's right about FalleN.
2020-09-22 08:53
+1
2020-09-22 09:30
should say the same about him stuck in the past no1 employs or takes him seriously anymore lmao
2020-09-22 10:13
pretty sure he is doing better than ever right now. actually having big and stable role on flashpoint, content platforms bigger than ever etc. xD
2020-09-22 10:29
He's not wrong here
2020-09-22 10:37
#313
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Japan Amamiya
He blocked me, can't see it.
2020-09-23 04:43
Lmao mens even people who defend Fallen say the same thing as thorin he was good in 2017
2020-09-23 15:57
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1.90
Evil Geniuses
1.72
FURIA
2.12
Nordavind
2.10
Nexus
1.70
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