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it is very difficult to see the real top 5 rn, cause online and shit aint steady but imo rn it looks like this : 1. Complexity 2. Astralis 3. Furia 4. Vitality 5. NaVi/Heroic it is debatable who is real #1 complexity or astralis, but i feel solid about my #3 and #4 #5 is irrelevant, i just didnt want to create top4 thread, but NaVi and Heroic are imo the best contenders for that spot what are your thoughts?
2020-09-16 22:04
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Guatemala Revigorate
0/8 tf did i just see
2020-09-16 22:05
wtf why
2020-09-16 22:06
you guys are really biased, meanwhile i tried to give you an unbiased opinion
2020-09-16 22:09
you do realize furia just took one map off of eg.. how are they higher than eg?
2020-09-16 22:22
2020-09-16 22:22
even if furia win today they still shouldn't be ahead of eg until they can beat them at least 2 more series
2020-09-16 22:25
i understand that, but this is me looking at current forms of teams and thinking who is where, for HLTV ranking it will be stupid to ignore such things as unbeatable performance of EG, for me it is not, if u get what im saying
2020-09-16 22:29
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Guatemala Revigorate
Complexity #1 - wtf????? Astralis #2 - deserved i think Furia #3 - furia should be #5 rn Vitality #4 - deserved i think Navi/Heroic #5 - understandable
2020-09-16 22:10
i dont understand why people are so against Complexity being top 1, taking into account their recent performance since it's hard to compare NA and EU rn, furia imo is #3-5, but i bet they would win against Vitality, NaVi or Heroic
2020-09-16 22:14
+1
2020-09-16 22:20
#2
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Lithuania Edze
Bruh wtf is this
2020-09-16 22:05
what's wrong :(((
2020-09-16 22:07
Stop reading at Complexity
2020-09-16 22:05
whyyy :cry:
2020-09-16 22:07
#8
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Serbia LtN))
+1
2020-09-16 22:07
+1
2020-09-16 23:05
1.Astralis 2.EG/Furia 3.Na'Vi 4.Heroic 5.BIG
2020-09-16 22:07
why no complexity
2020-09-16 22:19
Seeing as we're considering the current unstable situation, there are 2 factors: 1)The only relevant team they won against recently is Astralis(yet, with Bubzkji) 2)Complexity has just lost to mouz lol
2020-09-16 22:35
gotcha
2020-09-16 22:36
Fair comment
2020-09-17 07:06
#9
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Russia ToughGuy
stop reading at furia
2020-09-16 22:07
#10
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Turkey DodoMan47
#1-#2-#3 between Vitality-Complexity-Astralis Because of online we cant compare NA and EU teams well but if ve compare best NA team should be #4 or #5. G2 better than Navi/Heroic.
2020-09-16 22:08
Both BIG and Heroic beat Vitality/G2/Complexity Na'Vi still have a lot to prove
2020-09-16 22:11
navi fanboy :P
2020-09-16 22:23
Would you be surprised if I told you that s1mple_best and the likes call me a Na'Vi hater instead?
2020-09-16 22:28
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Turkey DodoMan47
Comparing teams with only between their matches isnt true. You can see the huge level difference between groups if you compare. Look teams which Navi beated.Not hard if you compare with group B matches. Navi not top5 rn in my opinion. Top3 isnt open for discuss.4 or 5 1 NA team which is the best.Im not sure about last spot but maybe between Navi/G2/BIG/Heroic.Last spot open for discuss but for me G2 better.
2020-09-16 22:27
#51
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United States mr_wood1
+1
2020-09-17 01:31
With no inter-regional play, We really dont know who the best in the world is. We only know who the best in each region are. In NA its EG and in EU its between COL, Astralis, Vitality and Heroic
2020-09-16 22:09
#13
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Pakistan LoOuU2
Only NA team worthy to be a Top one right now is EG, even Furia is shite lately compared to them while EG is Smurfing in the region I think you can only argue about who is first and second among Complexity and Astralis, rest are just too random atm after Vitality at 3rd. Spirit Top 10 currently btw.
2020-09-16 22:10
imo Furia is much better than EG, and they are proving it rn "I think you can only argue about who is first and second among Complexity and Astralis, rest are just too random atm after Vitality at 3rd" partially agree with u on that, since as i said im pretty confident to put Furia in top teams mb #4 and vitality #3 will be more accurate, but im confused why people dont see complexity at top1-2 spot
2020-09-16 22:17
#52
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Pakistan LoOuU2
ok EG couldnt have picked a worse time to end their winning streak. I didnt watch the game but , it was just one match up, they were too good in the region lately. While just like you, i too wonder why people dont treat Complexity as a top level team
2020-09-17 06:19
Team_Xizt is number 1
2020-09-16 22:10
astralis top 1 /closed
2020-09-16 22:16
EG is on a 10 game win streak or something
2020-09-16 22:17
imo Furia is better and they are going to prove it rn but yea, you are right, it's stupid from me to ignore that fact, but i just dont think they (EG) are actually as good as they look like
2020-09-16 22:23
1. Astralis 2. CoL 3. Vitality 4. Furia 5. BIG
2020-09-16 22:21
change your #5 and we have a deal :)
2020-09-16 22:22
EG/Navi
2020-09-16 22:33
okay, we have a deal :)
2020-09-16 22:35
FURIA is top 1. NT
2020-09-16 22:21
#31
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United Kingdom naica
You are missing 1 team: youtu.be/kPkT0jMjEu8?t=82
2020-09-16 22:25
this team is a joke and this is a serious thread, so nope
2020-09-16 22:32
#36
jks | 
United Kingdom naica
LOL Sorry i thought the title was top 5 2019 my bad
2020-09-16 22:32
LOL
2020-09-16 22:34
I do not Astralis is top 2 just yet, although i hope they will be in the near future. I also think that Vitality deserves #1 because they didnt drop of after the player break unlike BIG who was a powerhouse before the break.
2020-09-16 22:35
astrlias #1
2020-09-16 22:38
1. Astralis 2. Complexity 3. Vitality 4. Evil Geniuses 5. Natus Vincere
2020-09-16 22:38
#46
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North America 007DBR9
bad timing, col just lost to mouz 2-0
2020-09-17 00:51
1. Astralis 2. coL 3. Vitality 4. Heroic 5. Furia
2020-09-17 00:53
heroic without hunden LUL they are barely top 10 top 10: 1. astralis (they can beat anybody, they will lose the odd game tho) 2. col 3. vitality 4. eg (despite the loss today, they are the most consistent na team for the past 3 months, furia has been on and off) 5. furia/navi 6. navi/furia 7. liquid/big 8. big/liquid 9. g2 10. heroic/new mouz the top 3 can easily be rotated though tbh also, na is the most unstable region of pro cs, so the fact that eg have been so consistent and haven’t had close calls with underdogs until today’s loss to furia is impressive
2020-09-17 00:59
vita eg heroic furia col/astralis
2020-09-17 00:57
#50
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Canada JC_123
why complexity?
2020-09-17 00:59
#53
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Finland Orchard
Ence top 1
2020-09-17 06:55
1 Astralis 2 Evil Geniuses 3 Complexity 4 Team Vitality 5 Heroic 6 FURIA
2020-09-17 16:16
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1.67
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2.13
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1.41
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2.90
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15.70
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