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Thorin
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Sweden bruhmoment000 
It's actually insane to me that people unironically think Thorin is some top tier analyst. I will admit, he knows a lot of history of the pro scene, like all the past roster moves, past lineups, which teams won which tournaments etc. But let's be real, Thorin has absolutely 0 knowledge of the actual game itself. IMO a real analyst is someone like Ynk, Spunj, Pimp, vendetta, Maniac. They have actual game knowledge, they can look at a round, see exactly what goes on in the round and explain a lot of the thought process behind things and do real analysis of them. Yeah, Thorin can be funny cuz he has some Spicy takes and is more unfiltered, but if you take him serious as an analyst you are probably gold nova MM player. See a lot of smartasses on reddit getting upvoted when unironically saying that Thorin is a top tier analyst.
2020-09-17 05:39
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#1
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Russia VelsVivard
I disagree, he surely knows much more than most, most of the actual coaches even. And you can tell it just by listening to him, a clueless man would speak very differently. Thorin deserves more praise for what he's talking about.
2020-09-17 05:41
#2
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United States dirtydan__
+1
2020-09-17 05:41
No, please show me any example of him showing real game knowledge. Because from what I've seen from him, all he does is read all players HLTV ratings and quote them.
2020-09-17 05:47
#9
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Russia VelsVivard
Tune in for any CS:GO video he posts, he eventually gets to the moment when he explains things.
2020-09-17 06:23
Eh, I did, have yet to find a single moment he actually analyses a teams games. All he does is just ramble on about what roster moves they did, when things started to go wrong, citing HLTV ratings and so on...
2020-09-17 14:15
#11
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Russia VelsVivard
I only watched a couple and I already hopped on his train as he says the things we all think of. It's only a damned game, I'd really not like to see it being decyphered like an Egyptian scroll.
2020-09-17 14:17
YES, Which is EXACTLY MY POINT. All he does is say things and read things that everyone else can think of and do. An analyst IMO is someone who can bring more nuanced explanations of things that was in the round, like Ynk, pimp and Spunj do. Thorin lacks game knowledge to do that. He never does things like that on the desk. So why do you call him an analyst? He really isn't an analyst, he's a Gold nova who knows how to read hltv ratings, team history and says very spicy unfiltered things. That's it.
2020-09-17 14:21
#28
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Russia VelsVivard
I don't call him an analyst but he could be one if he really aimed for that position. I admire him for the way he delivers his point, he's like a mix of a story teller and an entertainer. I'd much rather prefer Thorin than SPUNJ or anyone else for that matter, because I want to be entertained and educated at the same time when the topic is Esports, you know. And Thorin sure does know his subject, he knows the history of the game very well and he has a perk of high speech, that is something an average analyst won't have.
2020-09-17 15:09
+1
2020-09-18 02:04
#47
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Albania bizhuy
i remember him saying there were no such things as noscopes on cs, only quickscopes. he just talks with confidence so people that don't know any better think he knows what he's talking about.
2020-09-18 02:00
He literally makes a point every time he does a video on a player to not just judge the eye test. He even did a video on why the stats can be misleading. Are you dumb do some research before calling him out
2020-09-18 10:23
+1
2020-09-18 01:37
+1
2020-09-18 01:46
Typical sheep. Name one video/clip where thorin breaks down a round like sgares/pimp/ynk. Thorin is only good at building narratives (because of his historical knowledge) and he is good at analyzing the pick/ban phase, that's it. You CANNOT be a top tier analyst without having played a top level and that's a fact. The best analyst in other sports are 99% of the time ex-players. There's a reason for that.
2020-09-18 01:47
#46
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Albania bizhuy
+1
2020-09-18 01:58
#55
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Russia VelsVivard
I don't call him an analyst and I don't need him to become one, who would want to listen to some analyst for half an hour? It's a game and I want to be lullabied with the things many don't want to get vocal on and have it delivered to me professionally, he has a great speech and knowledge of the game, that's what matters. Who cares if he analyses the game in a nerdy fashion or not.
2020-09-18 04:40
the typical sheep is a thorin hater.
2020-09-18 11:57
yeah he calls device a loser. And Blast kicked him for that. Cuz he is such a smart person LUL. Thorin can do his show write articles whatever but he doesn't deserve to be on a serious broadcast.
2020-09-18 02:07
+BIG number
2020-09-18 04:46
#60
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Europe Avalox
+1
2020-09-18 04:54
thoorin and richard lewis were ignorant about how cs teams play proper cs for a long time until they started reaching out to players to learn from them, this changed their perspective and they gained alot more respect for players
2020-09-18 10:22
+1
2020-09-18 11:48
+1 thorin bestest
2020-09-18 11:51
He's Supreme Master First Class.
2020-09-17 05:44
lmao rekt OP
2020-09-17 14:26
I cannot stand thorin whatsoever. absolute rubbish as a person
2020-09-17 05:53
why
2020-09-17 14:34
he's only capable of getting his point across while being disrespectful to the person. He's not able to admit those people are trying to do things right and that he also makes mistakes. Then he acts like being disrespectful is vital to getting his point across, which is not.
2020-09-18 02:09
i dont think hes necessarily disrespectful, hes just pretty straightforward and likes to banter, which people might think is disrespectful
2020-09-18 10:04
Actually he is kind of someone who likes straight talk when it suits him, and then comes up with pure bullshit on interviews that esports orgs will line up for flashpoint and buy out players from ESL top teams and invest heavily on FP league. And tbf his biggest problem is the guy has an opinion about every thing that goes in the scene, about every player and all, which is practically stupid most of the times
2020-09-18 10:28
Not disrespectful, he’s strait to the point and doesn’t mess around if your doing shit he’s gonna say. That’s why he didn’t care that olof and fallen were cs royalty he still gave them shit when they fucked up
2020-09-18 10:21
#6
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United States notawaffle
Thorin has some takes I agree with, and some takes that are absolutely ridiculous and retarded. And yet all his fanboys who suck his tiny weiner agree with everything he says
2020-09-17 06:03
+100
2020-09-18 01:49
+1 thorin is such a pathetic person though
2020-09-17 06:14
#8
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United States tylertempo
thorin admitted in some video that he can only keep up w the best analysts w his banter. He would never claim to be one of the best analysts so idek why this is a thing
2020-09-17 06:16
Yeah I mean he doesn't even call himself an analyst right? He calls himself an e-sport historian? Which I think describes him a lot better. Yet a lot of people really really have to insist that he's some kind of great analyst. Reddit narrative is that his banter and comments are bad, but that he's some kind of great analyst. It's THE complete opposite!
2020-09-17 14:17
#29
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United States tylertempo
i mean, he's not inherently a TERRIBLE analyst, he is nowhere near elite level tho. He def deserves a spot on the desk at medium/the occasional big event for draw appeal. I'd give his analysis a 5/10 and banter 11/10 xd
2020-09-18 01:34
You do know that for a brief time he had "#1 cs go expert" on his twitter bio?
2020-09-18 01:50
#41
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United States tylertempo
okay, but the implication could be made that he is more knowledgeable of the game's history. Doesn't say "#1 cs go analyst," now does it? checkmate, discount Dane.
2020-09-18 01:52
0/8
2020-09-18 01:52
#44
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United States tylertempo
rekted. God Thorin
2020-09-18 01:53
Well, he is more a philosopher. Like, what he said about NiKo is true and you do not have to understand every detail to know that. He took a black-box look at NiKo's career and has made a strong argument that it is highly unlikely that everything is just going against NiKo all the time and thus NiKo is part of the problem.
2020-09-17 14:22
I wonder if niko will change after that video, if I were niko I would have changed 2 years ago but he has to now
2020-09-18 10:19
Well you can see from his tweets, that he doesn't understand the criticism. He said he is not involved in the roster moves..., but Messi picks teammates for barca Kobe picked teammates for LA NiKo IS responsible for FaZe roster when he is IGL and star player, whether through bad choices or no choices at all. If he understands this, he can move forward and be a better player too
2020-09-18 11:45
stopped reading at YNK
2020-09-17 14:26
???what
2020-09-17 14:27
'stopped reading at YNK'
2020-09-17 14:28
ok silver
2020-09-17 14:30
wow why so mad
2020-09-17 14:31
Dont use reddit problem solved nerd
2020-09-17 14:26
+1
2020-09-17 14:36
Hakuna matata, Timon.
2020-09-17 14:32
It all depends on what you expect from an analyst. We all expect/want different things from them.
2020-09-17 14:33
Well from an ANALYST i'd expect analyzing. Everything else is a plus.
2020-09-18 01:51
#26
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France Lili___
for me thorin is not really an analyst but more of an esports journalist .. like a tv journalist, he says shit
2020-09-17 14:40
I see him more as an Analyst of teams and the pro scene than an Analyst of the game and ingame tactics etc. His takes are usually on point when it comes to the pro scene like his video on Niko a little while back for instance or his videos about roster moves and pre/after-match segments are about team 1 vs team 2 and how they match up and what is to be expected which is also usually pretty good. There's a reason why he was spot on on Astralis being one of the best teams before they won Atlanta it's because they were and he could see that even though most of the community, analysts and casters didn't think they could win a major at that time. You can't deny him having a great read on the scene.
2020-09-17 14:43
Rentfree.
2020-09-18 01:42
+1
2020-09-18 01:45
#43
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United Kingdom galaxyv2
ironically anyone dick sucking thorin also has him living rent-free inside your head : )
2020-09-18 01:52
Yes this is why on go on HLTV and make random threads praising him like you do only you hate. Oh wait.
2020-09-18 02:31
#81
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United Kingdom galaxyv2
ive seen many threads both hating and praising him lol quite frankly no one should be talking about a level 1 player
2020-09-18 13:22
Thorin doesn't claim to be an analyst. He calls himself "the esports historian". His job isn't to break down tactics but to document the history of the scene.
2020-09-18 01:45
Thorin is a good 'general' analyst, and what I mean by that is I think he is a good analyst for the entire game or the effects that game had on the scene, but he isn't top tier at analyzing individual rounds
2020-09-18 01:48
This one +1
2020-09-18 10:18
#39
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Yugoslavia RiggedShit
You can talk shit about him but hes still 100% right what he talks about
2020-09-18 01:50
He knows his stuff, whether you agree or not.
2020-09-18 01:55
There really is not even a argument to be made that he is not a top tier csgo analyst. He has been one for years and years are you sure you are not just mad because he critized some player you like? I have found that this is often the case with Thorin haters.
2020-09-18 02:08
#52
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Canada J47
I love Maniac as an analyst.... really wish we saw more of him these events :(
2020-09-18 02:10
#53
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Hong Kong kvinto
spunj lol
2020-09-18 02:11
Thorin is based 😤 shut up 😈😋😈😋😈😋
2020-09-18 04:42
It's actually insane to me that people unironically think bruhmoment000 is some top tier topicstarter. I will admit, he knows nothing of hltv, like all the past roster moves, past lineups, which teams won which tournaments etc. But let's be real, bruhmoment000 has absolutely 0 knowledge of the actual game itself. IMO a real user is someone like washington, prokda, niko_0_majors_simple_0_majors, dailyschoolshooting, etc. They have actual hltv knowledge, they can look at a topic, see exactly what goes on in the topic and explain a lot of the thought process behind things and do real analysis of it. Yeah, bruhmoment000 can be funny cuz he has some low iq takes and is more unfiltered, but if you take him serious as an topicstarter you are probably gold nova MM player. See a lot of smartasses on reddit getting upvoted when unironically saying that bruhmoment000 is a top tier topicstarter.
2020-09-18 04:54
holy fucking virgin
2020-09-18 05:37
+1
2020-09-18 10:18
+1
2020-09-18 17:53
#59
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United Kingdom fal36
Depends what you mean by analyst Hes not an analyst of tactics and pro strats but he does give good analysis of whats happening in the scene
2020-09-18 04:54
Ok I agree with the idea that Thorin is not the best at breaking down specific plays and rounds but in about everything else he seems extremely knowledgeable
2020-09-18 05:39
what did u say about ma boi
2020-09-18 05:47
Who are you to decide who and what a top tier analyst is? Are you top 10,000? No? Then shit the hell up. Do you see any casters or pros calling out thorin for analytical work. No? Then shit the fuck up. He’s not a spunj he doesn’t break down plays like that. But he analyses the game and how it went and that’s just as important
2020-09-18 10:17
#82
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United Kingdom galaxyv2
' Do you see any casters or pros calling out thorin for analytical work.' many pros have criticised thorin wut
2020-09-18 13:24
I don't think he claims to be an amazing analyst does he? He says historian because he has a brain that's able to remember things in greater detail than most. He's been around the scene longer than a lot of you have been alive. Although he has never played at a good level, you have to know your shit. You can't go on camera and talk CS infront of hundreds of thousands and wing it. He knows some shit about the game.
2020-09-18 10:20
Is that you again Thorin?
2020-09-18 10:24
Thorin might not be the best analysts, but he is unapologetic and he is good at calling out all kinds of bullshit in the CS scene
2020-09-18 11:49
you need analysts for the game and each round but also for the psychological aspect of CS. "Thorin has absolutely 0 knowledge of the actual game itself" is such an exaggeration that I cant take you seriously, have a good one.
2020-09-18 11:56
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