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Kazakhstan Massaget 
clips.twitch.tv/RenownedBlindingYakiniku.. What do you think? Just a coincidence?
2020-09-17 14:52
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#1
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United Kingdom Noided
Hobbit has 300IQ
2020-09-17 14:52
#4
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Guatemala Revigorate
+1 his IQ allows him to see through walls
2020-09-17 14:53
#220
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Kazakhstan Dosss
+1
2020-09-18 20:56
it was obvious he started using cheats, whne he join gambit he was playing 5-20 every game and everyone said bring back supra suddenly he topfragging xD and this happens
2020-09-17 14:53
#7
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32
"Obvious" How so?
2020-09-17 14:56
by how his stats changed overnight now watch the clip
2020-09-17 14:57
#20
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32
They didn't change overnight and I explained the clip in post #14. The only thing "obvious" is your lack of knowledge when it comes to expressing your opinion in a subjective manner.
2020-09-17 15:01
stfu racist
2020-09-17 15:02
guess Brazil lost again on this one
2020-09-17 15:12
read his explanation #14
2020-09-17 15:12
#66
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32
You do not agree, that is your opinion. The difference between your post and my post is it's strictly subjective. Cheating must always be treated as a possibility, you exclaiming it's "obvious" is nothing than your own fallible opinion.
2020-09-17 15:20
bra71l
2020-09-18 21:40
now they can not more lost the mibr disband so
2020-09-18 21:14
Lol he said nothing racist in his reply or #14 but you’re calling him a racist. Expected from 50IQ brazil
2020-09-19 07:51
His opinion is literally subjective, by definition. what
2020-09-18 21:07
Post #2 was not subjective at all. That was the post I was referring to in the post you replied to.
2020-09-18 21:13
oh hai jonty
2020-09-17 16:05
Good afternoon, friend. :)
2020-09-17 16:07
0/8
2020-09-18 20:54
vacbit confirm
2020-09-17 14:53
VAC confirm
2020-09-17 14:54
hmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
2020-09-17 14:54
#8
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Ukraine Dert38
xD
2020-09-17 14:56
lmfao that is one of the more obvious clips.. WTF HOBBIT
2020-09-17 14:56
#16
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32
No it's not. If someone is Goose, you know where Goose is... he is just pre-firing Goose for whatever reason.
2020-09-17 15:00
prefiring through the wall? xD its more like he is aming at the box what is a 'common' spot but he can see everything clear imo. just imagine it without xray, idk what hes shooting at..looks weird for sure, but would be a big suprise if hes cheating
2020-09-17 15:04
#50
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32
The x-ray is the reason people think Hobbit is cheating in thus clip, which he is not. I've shot at Goose before when pushing up A-short, many pros have done it.
2020-09-17 15:12
and why have you done it im curious? the only explanation is that he is spamming the box, which wouldnt make sense in that scenario because he could see it clearly. he even moved his crosshair back to the left and then shot. without xray it would have looked weird already.
2020-09-17 15:15
#62
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32
It's not weird at all. He's pushing up A-short, it's likely he knew there was going to be an opponent at Goose and just shot at it. Flusha used to do this kind of thing all the time. It's perfect fodder for witch-hunting.
2020-09-17 15:18
I know what you trying to say but nobody would shoot through the goose wall. If you shoot there, you only do it because of the gandalf box or smoke edge. why would he spam that wall? he shot on accident/nervous or he is cheating, thats the only explanation for it imo. defending this kind of clip with "flusha used to do this" makes it only worse tho
2020-09-17 15:22
Read posts: #85 and #93. There are many explanations as to why Hobbit shot at Goose wall, it's because of the x-ray that this clip recieved so much traction.
2020-09-17 15:39
6/8 bait. Somebody could be this stupid, but then again the way you word your arguments is pretty good, gj.
2020-09-18 09:23
"It's perfect fodder for witch-hunting." this was way too much lmao
2020-09-18 14:52
I couldnt agree more with you. Who would even shoot goose from that postition. Besides that, its unspammable and Hobbit should know that. He also blew his cover by shooting while crouching. Its makes zero sense what Jonty says. Only logic explanation for me is that hes prefiring the barrels
2020-09-17 16:50
+1 I still think he is baiting very hard
2020-09-17 16:56
Havent considered that.. If so, thats a very clever bait
2020-09-17 23:04
thats your opinion that its not weird, respect other peoples opinion no life
2020-09-17 15:48
That is all I've done in this very thread.
2020-09-17 15:51
nope you put your opinion in other peoples mouths and act as if your opinion is in any way more correct. Pathetic, showing the real you! No life
2020-09-17 17:40
That isn't the case whatsoever... I respect your opinion, however. If a professional player is being wrongfully accused of cheats, all I'm doing is explaining the clip. It may be suspicious to others but not to me. Also all cheating allegations must be done so correctly, as it's only fair that way.
2020-09-17 20:10
That isn't the case whatsoever... I respect your opinion, however. You dont know for a fact whether Hobbit is cheating or not, therefore you are stating your opinion that he isnt cheating. I respect it however dont ever tell someone whether their opinion is correct or not, VERY low from you indeed.
2020-09-17 20:39
Cheating must always be treated as a possibility - no more, no less. Witch-hunting doesn't treat cheating as a possibility, it's defamatory. If people want to believe Hobbit is cheating in this clip, I respect their opinion - ask anyone, I always do. You are not reading my posts properly... however I don't want to assume bait as that would be improper if me.
2020-09-17 22:31
Cheating must always be treated as a possibility! You arent treating it like a possibility by saying "It's not weird at all. He's pushing up A-short, it's likely he knew there was going to be an opponent at Goose and just shot at it. Flusha used to do this kind of thing all the time." You are directly implying that he isnt cheating! You are a hypocrite with double standarts. People like you never achieve anything in life! Change your mindset and stop wasting your life on hltv!
2020-09-18 18:51
You're clearly not reading my posts at all...? At this point I think it's fair to assume bait, I also respected your opinion and the fact you continue to spread conjectural nonsense. I'll reply no further as it's apparent you aren't reading my replies whatsoever, so I will wish you well once again. Have a good day.
2020-09-18 19:04
Damn, from reading that I will assume you are the one trying to bait me! Change your mindset and stop wasting your life on hltv! I'll reply no further! Have an amazing day.
2020-09-18 20:01
yea almost every prefire looks like wh when actually there is player and xray is on so this is no proff
2020-09-17 15:41
dont reply to jonty its never ending cycle
2020-09-18 09:19
yeah guess he got no life
2020-09-18 14:52
How so? The user you replied to is in the same boat as the OP of this thread: The users opinion respected but the "dodgy clip" clearly isn't proof of cheats.
2020-09-18 20:03
#32
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Portugal Surya
for whatever reason nice excuse. He knew that no one was there but for some reason he toggled the aim lock. Exposed
2020-09-17 15:05
#47
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32
There was no aim-lock, he simply shot at Goose... everybody has done this. I respect your opinion you think this is cheats, though.
2020-09-17 15:11
xD
2020-09-17 15:12
Shot at goose through the wall? Link me your faceit and we will see your level to confirm how bot you are
2020-09-17 15:13
#58
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Portugal Surya
+1 KEKW
2020-09-17 15:16
#59
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32
In 1.6 you can kill someone through that wall with three weapons: AWP, Scout and Deagle. Hobbit could've shot that wall for many reasons: Bait, confirmation, flashbang check, the list goes on... If you think this clip us evident of cheats, I respect your opinion...
2020-09-17 15:17
What does 1,6 have to do with this? I hope and expect that you're baiting, but: Wtf does "confirmation" mean in your context? Please explain. Also explain "flashbang check" I don't think this clip is evident of cheats, but I find it very suspicious. What makes you think that no pro cheats in cs, when in all other sports people are always trying to cheat? Cycling, football, the list goes on.. (and it's much more difficult in the mentioned sports compared to cs/vac)
2020-09-17 15:23
The clip isn't suspicious at all to me but it is to others, including yourself. The fact that the terminology I presented isn't being understood very well also confirms you don't know as much as you assume you do... Like I stated in post #59, if you think cheating exists in this clip, I completely respect your opinion.
2020-09-17 15:37
#37
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Romania Laskof
xDDDDDDDDDDDDD
2020-09-17 15:08
I dont think he prefiring Goose but I would say he prefires barrels
2020-09-17 16:04
I stated "for whatever reason", I now know that reason is because Styko played Goose pretty much every round, which explains why Hobbit popped it once. The original post I made was unclear because I hadn't seen the game prior but 8 then watched the game to confirm suspicions. It was still a debunking and one of my original theories as to why turned out to be true, it was indeed a confirmation check.
2020-09-17 16:07
No one should ever consider your opinion as a serious statement because silver one's opinion is irrelevant I do still think you are baiting but time goes on and you do still have the same style of it, so im not sure anymore if you are baiting or suffering from autism.
2020-09-18 20:44
They don't need to consider my opinion as a serious opinion, it's an opinion nonetheless. I already debunked this clip as did others, yet people still assume cheats exist here. It's the difference of opinions that continue to keep this awful thread alive, not bait. Believe me, it would be far easier if witch-hunting was bait...
2020-09-18 20:46
Then you shouldnt reply to anyone who thinks hobbit is cheating in this clip because you dont need the other take your opinion as a serious one The biggest question now is why do you keep replying to the people who think that cheating in the pro scene is a thing? Are you really that retarded? No, you just keep baiting but you should do it less obvious I have no idea how some people keep falling for your baits
2020-09-18 20:53
I don't assume my opinion to be better than anybody else's, I'm just explaining the clip and clarifying that this clip isn't proof of cheats, that is not how it works... it's a defamatory accusation, nothing more. Evidently you are not reading my posts before replying to them...
2020-09-18 20:56
Ofc im trying not to read your baiting posts, there is no point to read them No doubt you have some mental issues, you should accept and face it if you want to get better because baiting 24/7 on hltv is a serious problem Dont reply to me, thanks
2020-09-18 21:01
You assume my posts to be bait and you assume my posts to be other things entirely, yet you admit to not reading them properly to come to the same conclusion...? I respect your opinion, of course. I hope that in the future my posts are read correctly and are not assumed to be what they are not. Have a good day.
2020-09-18 21:03
#11
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Romania Anonym20
bruh he just prefired that corner behind gandalf box or whatever it's called
2020-09-17 14:57
#15
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Kazakhstan Massaget
I would believe that if he immediately prefired that spot, but first he looked to the right and then suddenly moved his crosshair to the enemy's outline
2020-09-17 14:59
#72
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32
Right? He still committed to doing just that despite movement? If plays like this confuse you then why are you assuming cheat? Assuming is different to an accusation, of course. To post this on HLTV you would have assumed cheat outright to make a comparison to a coincidence, no?
2020-09-17 15:22
It's a common thing to do - prefiring without the 'pre' part.
2020-09-17 16:43
+1 Maybe he was blind or/and hear steps from Goose and thought they came from gandalf/ninja or whatever its called, or just prefired that spot just in case. Without player in Goose and xray, nobody is wondering what he is doing.
2020-09-17 15:19
#74
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32
+1 Goose-angle can be shot for many reasons, it's not clear wall-hack is present whatsoever...
2020-09-17 15:23
You can hear steps from goose on short A? Or how could he hear steps on gandlaf when noone was there? I am alright with his spray being prefire but stop with shitty explanations please.
2020-09-18 21:35
clearly a coincidence, this is a common spot for a CT to be while Ts are smoked on short get a life
2020-09-17 14:58
#22
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32
Witch-hunting for you...
2020-09-17 15:02
#24
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Portugal Surya
Just a coincidence lmaooo
2020-09-17 15:02
feel free to have a different opinion
2020-09-17 15:10
#56
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United States ShawnM
imagine thinking a guy like Hobbit would cheat like a fucking major winner and top20 player would cheat in an online match vs godsent sure...
2020-09-17 15:14
#65
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Portugal Surya
Evidence suggest it, even if it doesn't make sense to you
2020-09-17 15:19
#67
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United States ShawnM
no he was preaiming to the right of gandalf and prefired it he mustve thought he saw the outline of a guy there its not too uncommon of an angle especially if the attack comes from cat and the smokes extend pretty far
2020-09-17 15:20
#69
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Portugal Surya
He knew no one was there and still shot through the wall. Accidental toggle is what that was
2020-09-17 15:21
#73
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United States ShawnM
no he shot the right side of gandalf because he thought he saw a player model he looks away to the right after clearing site and long corner plus he probably doesnt even check goose afterwards because the molly didn't spread to get styko so...
2020-09-17 15:22
#77
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32
I literally told you several reasons as to why Hobbit may have shot the wall. You have an opinion, good for you. That will be respected...
2020-09-17 15:24
#76
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32
There is none. "Suspicious clips" are not evidence.
2020-09-17 15:23
+1 and also he was partly blinded just before shooting there probably it was a random reflex
2020-09-17 15:26
It might have looked like someone was crouching behind that box...
2020-09-17 14:58
#14
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32
He's just pre-firing Goose... it's not a wall-bang spot per-say, it could just be confirmation or Hobbit is about to check Goose. We cannot hear the comms, so it could've stemmed from that. Has nobody ever done this before? In 1.6 you could kill someone with that same pre-fire with an AWP, scout or deagle.
2020-09-17 14:59
#21
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Kazakhstan Massaget
from hobbit's position goose is not penetratable in csgo
2020-09-17 15:01
#27
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32
I know it isn't, I literally stated that in my post. Did you read my post before replying? It's not proof of wall-hack at all. If someone is Goose, you know where Goose is... he most likely shot at Goose to confirm position or bait a check. Why do witch-hunters instantly go straight to cheats?
2020-09-17 15:04
shooting at enemy through the wall doesnt confirm their position whatsoever dumbass
2020-09-17 15:04
#35
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Kazakhstan Massaget
+1
2020-09-17 15:06
#36
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32
He didn't know the enemy was there when he shot the wall, the x-ray gives off that illusion. Clearly you have no idea what I'm trying to state.
2020-09-17 15:07
pretty sure he is baiting lmao
2020-09-17 15:08
#42
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32
I don't bait. Please read my posts properly, friend.
2020-09-17 15:10
#34
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Kazakhstan Massaget
wdym by witch-hunters lol? I didn't say he is a cheater, just asked 'just a coincidence?'
2020-09-17 15:06
#38
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32
Providing a "dodgy clip" as accusations of cheat is witch-hunting. If you did make an accusation, then I apologise. Please don't make these threads in the future, though.
2020-09-17 15:08
its the same thing
2020-09-19 03:20
i feel that the reason he shot was to bait enemies to peek for a flashbang and get em blind..
2020-09-17 15:10
#55
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32
I stated this in post #14 and post #27. He might have just wanted to shoot at Goose... we've all done it.
2020-09-17 15:14
ah, I see, didn't bother to scroll too much. Im not too familiar with earlier iterations of the game so this wallbang for me seems weird, but I can understand it still.. I do atleast know that the walls used to paper and almost everything was wallbangable , but still can't get my head around it. :D
2020-09-17 15:19
#79
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32
Yeah, Goose was a deadly spot in 1.6 for that very reason. It was pot-luck where in Goose you would be standing, though.
2020-09-17 15:25
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA ur worst explanation yet LMAOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO u could say he tried to wallbang the boxes where u can partially hide, but he missed (with 2 bullets ? huh) but wallbanging goose, cmon jonty AHAHAHHAHAHAA
2020-09-17 15:04
#33
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32
I respect your opinion you think that. Unlike yourself, I'm not going to be fooled by "dodgy clips" as evidence of cheats because they are not. This clip doesn't prove Hobbit to be a cheater, it proves witch-hunters will always be fooled by the outsider perspective, no matter the case.
2020-09-17 15:05
my dear friend Jonty is just a position that a lot of pros does and he's just prefiring, rain make this position a lot in d2
2020-09-17 15:05
#40
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32
Yes, I know this... did you read my reply at all before replying, friend?
2020-09-17 15:09
yes my friend, i tought that you are saying that he could wallbang goose from here sorry for the miss understanding and have a good day!
2020-09-17 17:35
Why did he move his crosshair away from the goose angle, to literally the middle of the wall. If he was prepared for someone being goose, then that's the exact opposite of what he should do This isn't 1.6, hobbit hasn't ever played pro 1.6, so you can't explain it away with wallbangs. I'm willing to bet you can't find a single clip of him doing that "wallbang" any time before and he will never do it again
2020-09-17 15:39
Posts #85 and #93 give valid reasons as to why Hobbit chose to fire there. I made the comparison to 1.6 because it is a popular spot to shoot. He didn't open-fire on it, he popped it once, meaning he knew someone would be Goose (post #93) or it was to bait a flashbang/was semi-flashed already. We also cannot hear the comms of the players, so it could've been a conformation check to another player (he is Goose). It's also close to Gandalf, so it could've simply have been a misfire.
2020-09-17 15:44
If he knew someone was goose, why would he move his crosshair away from the goose angle?
2020-09-17 15:46
To check other things, probably... We are not Hobbit, we have to estimate and calculate what Hobbit would do because someone decided to post this as a possible cheating accusation, which didn't need to happen at all... It's clear Hobbit was still committed to Goose despite moving off of the angle. We don't know the comms or the play necessary for that information off of a "suspicious clip" like this, which is why it's not evident of cheats. Even professional players can sometimes forget what they're doing as long as it's in the back of their mind the play necessary.
2020-09-17 15:51
To check what 'other things'? Do you at least agree, that what hobbit did is objectively a terrible move, and something that should not be expected at the highest levels of CS?
2020-09-18 09:13
highest levels :DD
2020-09-18 09:23
Gambit Youngsters is the #27 team in the world which means they're about the top 99.9999925% of CSGO players
2020-09-18 10:13
clip reminds me forsaken cache clip locking and shooting nonsense
2020-09-18 20:18
There was no lock in this clip, though. The forsaken clip locked and followed indicating the use of an aim-hack software; yet thousands of clips remain misconstrued by inexperienced people attempting to claim they know more than the professionals do. The difference being is forsaken was caught cheating and other assumed professionals were not.
2020-09-18 20:23
clips are same so stop acting like u are pro player and know everything forsaken clip became viral and suspicous then we found out he is cheating i view that clip as the same btw u are calling no lock in this clip how so u watched match from hobbit's pc nobody knows that
2020-09-18 20:31
Suspicious clips are just that: Suspicious clips. They are not evident of cheats and never have been because it's a butchered clip of professional-level play, lacking context and possibly being tampered with for witch-hunting purposes. This clip is a perfect example of a clip lacking context, it didn't show the flash Styko threw and it didn't entail Styko was predominantly playing Goose all the time. Forsaken's clip (there wer many, by the way) was different as it was caught by the admins who checked forsaken's PC, it wasn't taken out of context by witch-hunters. Look at forsaken's clip and look at the thousands of misconstrued clips being butchered by witch-hunters and you'll see the point I'm illustrating - they are not the same and the comparison is inept. Cheating myst always be treated as a possibility and witch-hunting doesn't do that whatsoever, take forsaken as an example... Of course, that's my philosophy of witch-hunting anyway... you are free to share your own, of course. I'm aware clips akin to forsaken's exist however the likelihood that it is cheat is up for debate, which is why topics like this exist, unfortunately... Have a good day.
2020-09-18 20:41
you are true hobbit's clip is more suspicious nobody spams goose ffs yeah i guess for you until admin caught forsaken didnt cheated like kqly and others for u probably nobody cheats cheating never existed
2020-09-18 20:45
Hobbit didn't spam Goose, he tapped it and I already explained why Hobbit did this. Further proving you aren't watching the clip properly and seeing locks that do not exist.
2020-09-18 20:49
how do u know that lock doesnt exist? do u watch it from hobbit's pc?
2020-09-18 20:49
At this point it's a better question to ask what lock are you seeing? I linked the posts debunking this clip yet you still claim Hobbit spammed Goose and supposedly locked? You then link me a clip of forsaken which isn't even an apt comparison whatsoever... Clearly you're opting to perceive the clip in a far different way than intended which is what witch-hunters do, ironically... Why am I still repeating myself?
2020-09-18 20:53
are u blind or what he shot directly styko from unwallbangable spot nobody shots goose like that he should look at ramp
2020-09-18 20:54
"Shot", not spammed. Now you're literally making no sense whatsoever... I also told you why Hobbit did this, you assume it to be different, I respect your opinion.
2020-09-18 20:58
also pls show me same exact type clip from any pro random spam to direcly to guy who hiding
2020-09-18 20:50
There was no spam and there was no lock. Are you even referring to the same clip at this point?
2020-09-18 20:54
shot or spam whatsoever exactly show some type of clip from tier 1 lans guy suddenly directly locks goose and shots just send me a clip from tier1 lan if u can find one like that i will admit im wrong if u cant im right
2020-09-18 21:02
Again... I told you why Hobbit popped Goose, I referred you to the posts debunking this clip, yet you still somehow butcher this clip further again and again with each following reply... I respect your opinion... again...
2020-09-18 21:04
show me same exact type clip from tier1 lans if u cant im right if u cant u are right
2020-09-18 21:06
Who decides that logic to be the correct train of thought here? I see a witch-hunting user failing to identify the same clip he/she claims to be evident of cheats, making inept comparisons to other clips and not respecting others opinions of said clip claimed to be evident of cheats. I respected your opinion countless times, repeated myself countless times, yet that is not good enough... I have to provide clips for some arbitrary reason despite not being the accuser in this situation? Enough said...
2020-09-18 21:12
so im right u couldnt find same clip
2020-09-18 21:14
No, of course you're not right. You decided this on your own. You assume Hobbit to be cheating in this clip and I told you this clip is incomparable to that of forsaken's clip. You also replied to a post you didn't read once again.
2020-09-18 21:16
u didnt find a clip leftist also both clips are same if forsaken didnt caught i feel you will defend him ur life depends on
2020-09-18 21:27
Again, I don't think you've at all read my post before replying...
2020-09-18 21:32
i read every nonsense u posted
2020-09-18 21:32
You can't explain it for these people, Jonty. They are convinced cheating is a thing in pro cs. Every time someone has his aim on another player through the wall they are sure it's aimlock or wallhack. They've probably never watched a demo in their life.
2020-09-23 11:29
10 iq 1.6 player
2020-09-20 22:41
#17
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Portugal Surya
If u dont think that is aim locking u need to take the blinders off
2020-09-17 15:00
#41
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32
There was no aim-lock present in this clip.
2020-09-17 15:09
#43
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Portugal Surya
ok now take blinders off
2020-09-17 15:10
#82
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32
What blinders? You think this clip is evident of cheats, that is your opinion, it is not factual. Cheating must always be treated as a possibility, something you are failing to do.
2020-09-17 15:26
#89
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Portugal Surya
Yeah like we are gonna trust VAC, this private hacks wont be detected.
2020-09-17 15:27
I never stated to trust VAC, I stated to treat your opinion strictly as just that. Start reading the replies of posts: #85 and #93 before going any further.
2020-09-17 15:34
#106
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Portugal Surya
Im not gonna waste time with u. I respect your opinion as well, just i think ur wrong in not seeing this as hacks. U can say coincidence all u want, it wont convince me
2020-09-17 15:37
I know I won't convince you because you've automatically confirmed cheats without reason -- classic witch-hunting at it's finest. As long as you remember to treat cheating strictly as an opinion and as a possibility, I will not need to reply no more. Have a good day.
2020-09-17 15:46
like forsaken and cache
2020-09-18 20:19
Which clip?
2020-09-18 20:23
twitch.tv/esl_csgo/clip/DelightfulManlyC.. hobbit's clip is more suspiicous though forsaken saw that guy and spammed with cheats hobbit didnt saw him and locked and spammed him unwallbangle spot also online era and only 2 weeks ago we saw many coaches exposed for some bug so everything could happen stop acting like pro player's lawyer you are basic ass casual player
2020-09-18 20:34
There was no lock in Hobbit's clip, I literally explained the clip to you. You perceive cheats to exist here, that is your opinion... though how is unbeknownst to me... Read posts: #85 and #93.
2020-09-18 20:44
yeah for you #199 there was no lock in that either
2020-09-18 20:48
The clip you posted in post #199 doesn't match the thousands of misconstrued clips out there, no... At this point, I'm literally repeating myself...
2020-09-18 20:50
yes world is peaceful place nobody cheats u cant cheat in vac secured servers it never happens nobody ever cheated in cs go
2020-09-18 20:52
I never stated this at all... If you're not going to read my posts before replying then why reply?
2020-09-18 21:00
VAC
2020-09-17 15:01
yes wh
2020-09-17 15:01
the kazak leaf
2020-09-17 15:03
Just got lucky
2020-09-17 15:05
#52
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France ElGoubito
Maybe he shoots to cover the sound of a flash being thrown ?
2020-09-17 15:13
#88
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32
A very credible reason indeed.
2020-09-17 15:27
#116
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Portugal Surya
Yeah right through the wall where Styko is. just a coincidence
2020-09-17 15:46
The spot Styko has been playing in all game long? Yeah, that spot.
2020-09-17 16:01
#149
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Portugal Surya
And he decided shot through wall . Its impenetrable he knew that. He's hacking
2020-09-17 17:41
No... Hobbit knew Styko would be Goose like he'd been all game, popped the wall once as a flashbang was threw beforehand. You're misconstruing the present clip but obviously I respected the fact you think Hobbit cheats according to this clip; it's not evident of cheats because dodgy clips are never evident of anything except dodgy-play. Dodgy play =/= Cheating
2020-09-18 20:26
A Lot pros is cheating in nowdays, like hen1, ropz, hobby.... and so many others
2020-09-17 15:13
#86
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32
Are they? I respect your opinion. Please treat it as such next time.
2020-09-17 15:27
100% wh
2020-09-17 15:17
#90
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32
It's not "100%", that is a fallacy.
2020-09-17 15:28
#61
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Finland Faust_fSt
You can't cheat on VAC secured servers.
2020-09-17 15:18
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
2020-09-17 15:49
That's aimbot (aimlock); not wallhack.
2020-09-17 15:21
#87
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Russia LeGoBoys
Hobbit though styko was behind the smoke and attacked
2020-09-17 15:27
#91
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32
There is no aim-hack here...
2020-09-17 15:28
very dodgy definitely VAC check i just dont understand with CHAOS and now this, why you would 'pre fire' a spot (while also flicking onto it very suddenly) when you know it will not hit him, and give up your position, what is the thinking behind this? everyone know you can't wb goose from short
2020-09-17 15:21
#78
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Portugal Surya
Accidental toggle the aim lock key most likely
2020-09-17 15:24
#92
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32
He didn't shoot Goose to wall-bang it, obviously... Your explanation of this clip laughable.
2020-09-17 15:29
+1
2020-09-18 20:14
This is as bad as Leaf's sus clips but VALVE wont do nothing cuz they dont care as usual :D
2020-09-17 15:26
#94
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32
They will not do anything because they do not need to, this clip isn't suspicious.
2020-09-17 15:29
I respect your opinion on these and have read quite a many of your posts here, but gotta ask u, are there any suspicious clips in your opinion?
2020-09-17 17:43
Clips I found suspicious? Out of the hundreds that users and players have sent me, only a few I've viewed I found suspicious. There was one from a German player called LYGHT on inferno and a couple of others I can't remember... I'll have to look few them and message you back.
2020-09-17 20:14
Leaf is legit, there is a video where a guy proves that the gaming engine didn't even render the enemy model behind the wall because he was too far away but for this clip I would check the full demo and if he prefired that same spot like every 2 rounds if yes, it is nothing special, but if this is his first time, rip career
2020-09-17 15:42
Apparently Styko played there almost every round, so it confirms as to why Hobbit popped the position once and unfortunately, it was clipped by witch-hunters.
2020-09-17 16:02
thanks for the info man
2020-09-17 16:35
#81
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Russia LeGoBoys
If this case was in overwatch he would be banned immediately. 100% wh
2020-09-17 15:26
Overwatch? Yes. Attempting to have professional demo's sent to non-professional players would always result in a ban because of the outsider perspective.
2020-09-17 15:33
he's just 16 stop sending him death threads wtf
2020-09-17 15:26
these clips dont show the 20 secs prior where he probably revealed himself or threw some util i always spam this wall with awp too, even though i know wall is not spammable in go wishful thinking spam, in 1.6 i clocked probably 15k+ kills through goose wall im sure hobbit has the same feelings
2020-09-17 15:28
Earlier in the round, Styko was playing a passive style on short and was pre-firing through a Molotov that was holding back the T's from pushing up the stairs. Hobbit likely thought Styko would be playing close to the smoke, so he pre-fires the box. It's also possible that he thought Styko was shooting from the box earlier when he was shooting into the short Molotov. Also, because spectating makes the game different, we don't know how the smoke appeared to Hobbit. It may have looked like an enemy was there, because the smoke blooms appear different for spectators.
2020-09-17 15:29
#97
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32
+1 I didn't see the game so I debunked the clip based off of the clip but your debunking was far better because you have prior information that would suggest and justify Hobbit's actions.
2020-09-17 15:31
When you see a clip on twitch you can press show complete video and it puts you in context so you can move earlier in the round to see what happens. Styko just thrown a flash so they can think that he's near, problem is that he's super slow in shooting there and he's not maintaining the angle or really checking afterwards, so it has some sense but it's still strange behavior.
2020-09-17 17:27
Ah, thanks for the heads-up.
2020-09-17 17:30
Jonty...you never learn EVERYONE... IS... ***CHEATING***
2020-09-20 22:11
preaiming towards gandalf in my opinion
2020-09-17 15:30
100% hacking
2020-09-17 15:30
#98
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United Kingdom Jonty04l32
It isn't "100%", it's your opinion.
2020-09-17 15:31
stop answering on every comment, retard
2020-09-17 15:45
We can choose who to answer and who not to answer, but apparently I have no choice as users are not treating cheating as what it's supposed to be treated as: a possibility.
2020-09-17 15:54
a Hobbit 'pre-firing' Gandalf box... LUL nice hacks anyway
2020-09-17 15:32
#100
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Europe watdoink
since cheats can make a difference between player is covered or not covered (wh coloring) there's no way any good cheat would aim lock through walls.
2020-09-17 15:32
also pretty good aimbot that aims for balls
2020-09-17 15:36
If aimkey was used in this scenario this is how it went down. Crouching through smoke hit aimkey to time the smoke fade in case someone is behind the smoke he felt it lock so he shot but didn't know there was a player behind the wall. Key word "if"
2020-09-17 15:39
#118
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Portugal Surya
I agree
2020-09-17 15:47
There was no lock present in this clip...
2020-09-17 15:54
ahahahahahah nice hacks this guy gg
2020-09-17 15:36
He's been playing alot of 1.6 lately, he forgot where he was.
2020-09-17 15:36
is that a joke or are you stupid?
2020-09-17 16:27
The irony of this post when viewing post #103...
2020-09-18 20:05
i find it wierd nobody is getting banned for cheating. So many clips yet no investigation or anything?
2020-09-17 15:56
Clips aren't evident of cheats and 99% of them are not that suspicious at all. Valve don't need to investigate based on stuff like this but I agree at least routine checks should be a regular thing.
2020-09-17 16:04
I dont get why they dont have a camera on the players hand. Then you have a focal point on the hand that is set to the sensivity and movement on the screen. If they dont add up = cheat.
2020-09-18 12:38
They don't need to and even if they did, users and witch-hunters would still call shenanigans. There is no winning or changing a mind of a witch-hunter, unfortunately.
2020-09-18 20:06
What do you mean? it would be a bullet-proof anticheat in offline tournaments EDIT: Coupled with a keylogger
2020-09-18 20:08
Some players do play with hand-cam when streaming but I think it's unnecessary for tournaments to do this considering the claims are merely that of "dodgy clips". Suspicious clips will always seem suspicious to the inexperienced eye, clipped and butchered for ones own amusement, it's not evident or present of cheating and we'll never be able to determine that from such a clip that lacks the necessary context.
2020-09-18 20:19
I'm not talking about clips now. I'm talking about offline tournaments where talk of cheat are still a hot topic. Do the aforementioned things and all suspicion will be ruled out
2020-09-18 20:57
It might not, though. Especially given how bizarre some witch-hunting is these days...
2020-09-18 20:59
#259
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United States codgun
Handcams by themselves aren't enough. There are ways to make movements seem realistic. We need as many precautions as we can put in place and even then it won't be enough to get them all. People will always find a way to slip through the cracks. That's not to say that everyone is cheating but if one is there are certainly more. Cheaters are like bedbugs.
2020-09-20 22:35
Im not only saying handcams. I said a handcamera that is linked to the sensivity and movement on the screen AND a keylogger. This will be bulletproof IMO
2020-09-21 09:59
#151
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Portugal Surya
The game reputation is already so tarnished. Coaches hacking, 322 all days. If it comes out many players are hacking its over for CS GO
2020-09-17 17:44
#260
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United States codgun
That's why Valve needs to do something about it now before it gets too big to deal with the consequences.
2020-09-20 22:37
man its just default position behind the box thats why he is prefiring
2020-09-17 15:57
finally i found comment like this. 100% agree with you
2020-09-17 16:32
yes, thats why he spamming the an unshotable wall. even with awp u cant shoot it.
2020-09-17 16:48
He's not spamming the wall, he shot it once...?
2020-09-17 17:32
unshotable wall.
2020-09-17 18:08
It doesn't matter... that doesn't mean Hobbit cannot shoot it.
2020-09-18 20:07
0/8 nice try,cheater
2020-09-18 20:59
I respect your opinion. Have a good day.
2020-09-18 21:00
Is that a bait again
2020-09-19 03:04
3 lvl spotted
2020-09-17 16:06
wow hobbit is so skilled that everyone think he is cheating.. and u say kicking supra was a mistake
2020-09-17 16:09
The whole Gambit team is weird. I wouldn't put my hand in the fire if sh1ro or hobbit cheat.
2020-09-17 16:49
he prefired the "barrel" thing...
2020-09-17 18:10
0/8
2020-09-17 18:54
0.25x you see he is not shooting the box in case there is someone so bit supspsciopscuious
2020-09-17 18:59
this guy in gose he use flash from there so hobb1t have a info for one guy on gose
2020-09-17 19:17
#159
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Russia armando_o
so much gold novas in this tread
2020-09-17 20:16
Looks wierd and suspicious, but I dont think he is hacking anyway. The thing is, he aimed straight at the model. Maybe, if he really could have wh, he could saw that model in the smoke, and in the smoke he coudnt distinguish is he on barrels or on a goose, so right after he came out of the smoke he prefired model thinking he is on barrels (I dont think so anyway) I would be glad if GY would provide teamspeak or smth
2020-09-17 20:26
Styko pretty much played Goose this entire half, so Hobbit popped the wall once, there was also a flash thrown before the clip was clipped. It's just your basic play being butchered and misrepresented by witch-hunters... no change whatsoever.
2020-09-18 20:09
I think is just coincidence, there is a comum spot, and Hobbit also has 300IQ, and if you think this is suspicious, you need to see leaf and xeppa!
2020-09-17 20:42
BRUH i love this guy but this clip made me no more((
2020-09-18 09:18
I heard if you make a cheating thread, jonty will appear.
2020-09-18 10:15
Can't believe how deluded some of you are. He shot at a common spot hello?
2020-09-18 10:16
forsaken shot common spot also
2020-09-18 20:17
No he didn't. You linked the very clip you fail to identify?
2020-09-18 21:06
forsaken shot common spot also what do u mean?
2020-09-18 21:08
How are you linking clips you aren't even viewing properly...?
2020-09-18 21:14
i guess u are baiting or blind
2020-09-18 21:31
I will not point out the irony here and instead move on... The quicker this topic is put to bed, the better...
2020-09-18 21:33
Ok Nobody can cheat in vac secured servers Forsaken and kqly proved that Cheating in cs go doesnt exist u sherlock can explain probably everything like spinbot is spinning bcuz avoiding flash /closed
2020-09-18 21:56
This is good comedy I have to say. Jonty vs. kids :DDDDDDD d
2020-09-18 19:02
I can only apologise for that. Have a good day. :)
2020-09-18 20:10
i do agree that there are many "pros" who cheat, but this clip doesnt prove anything really
2020-09-18 20:17
Its probably just the experience of winning a major, unlike niko
2020-09-18 20:17
Pre shot towards that thing there. Nothing else ugh
2020-09-18 20:38
He was just briefly flashed with two smokes narrowing his fov. Where he shot is also a fairly common angle for a CT to catch the T’s on cat off guard. So it’s not an obvious case of wallhack. More of a obvious case of a well experienced entry fragger doing his job.
2020-09-18 20:39
+1 Sadly, not everyone will not agree with this explanation...
2020-09-18 21:07
im BIG fan of hobbit but he plays weird and have suspicius clips, i wouldnt put the hand in the fire for him
2020-09-18 20:53
so when i post a suspicious clip of jw it instantly gets deleted. hobbit, 3rd worlder, who cars. i dont understand this site
2020-09-18 21:38
Coucincidence I guess
2020-09-19 03:18
#254
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United States ekwi
ITT silvers gg
2020-09-19 03:21
Coming through smoke part blind, he shot at an angle CTs like to play to watch cat. Goose guy happened to be lined up, this shit happens in every game
2020-09-20 22:13
+1 he was trying to prefire if someone was peeking from box
2020-09-20 22:21
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