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Top 10 without Zywoo and S1mple
Argentina NicolEwE 
Make a list TOP 10 players without S1mple and without Zywoo, I want to see how it ends
2020-09-18 20:05
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NiKo 1 rest irrelevant
2020-09-18 20:06
#2
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Other gastivy
what about krystal
2020-09-18 20:07
hahahhahahahha
2020-09-18 20:10
+1 Krystal GOAT IGL
2020-09-19 05:53
#66
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Germany m1soooo
1. Blamef 2. Syrson 3. Dev1ce 4. Niko 5. Tabsen 6. Ropz 7. Hunter 8. Xantares 9. Elige 10. Magisk
2020-09-19 10:16
#72
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Belgium Im_new
excuse me who are blamef, syrson and tabsen ?
2020-09-19 10:44
#82
nex | 
Germany m1soooo
lame
2020-09-19 11:37
still living in 2019 i see
2020-09-19 12:01
#110
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Belgium Im_new
yeah I prefer ignoring this shitty online year indeed...
2020-09-19 12:02
+1 Edit: Have a good day!
2020-10-01 07:58
Idk man... a list that has Magisk lower than Xantares and Tabsen seems quite inaccurate ngl
2020-09-19 11:48
#93
nex | 
Germany m1soooo
oh I am talking about currently not in the past !
2020-09-19 11:52
Go back to your mom
2020-09-19 11:52
why
2020-09-19 12:32
#12
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Sweden Fizze
FaZe fans getting cocky after winning 1 match
2020-09-18 20:11
as always
2020-09-18 20:30
flair
2020-09-18 20:31
#44
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Canada Matchfix
I mean they almost lost to threat soooo
2020-09-18 20:41
#116
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Russia 0_0
I mean kjaerbot played worse then thread sooooooo it was 4v4
2020-09-19 12:11
NIP fans getting cocky after winning 1 match
2020-09-19 05:57
hahahahahahahahahaah
2020-10-01 08:06
device, elige, electronic, blamef, hunter, niko, ropz is here probably
2020-09-18 20:08
Electronic is deffo not there... at least for now
2020-09-18 20:11
for year yes. for now maybe not. But i think even now top 10 at least still
2020-09-18 20:14
give him time and he'll be there
2020-09-19 11:37
Dev1ce not this year
2020-09-18 20:48
why? he is surely top5 if we will not include s1mple and zywoo
2020-09-18 20:49
Astralis took 3 months break man
2020-09-18 22:50
Not device... And he still played well.
2020-09-19 05:24
Blamef, electronic and syrson played better this year
2020-09-19 05:38
blamef? yea. elec and syrson? nope. dude just check stats...
2020-09-19 05:43
hltv.org/stats/players?startDate=2020-01.. Idk why device is not here , maybe cuz he doesn't have good amount of maps, but that's what i found
2020-09-19 10:02
yea he has less maps...just change filter vs top20: hltv.org/stats/players?startDate=2020-01.. vs top10: hltv.org/stats/players?startDate=2020-01.. vs top5: hltv.org/stats/players?startDate=2020-01.. device was still really good this year and easily before elec and syrson. only blamef could be debatable but thats it
2020-09-19 10:09
Electronic has trophy and mvp behind his back
2020-09-19 10:29
and? what did s1mple and elec win last year? jack shit and yet s1mple was second and elec sixth...device was better player overall
2020-09-19 10:34
Device never was better player than s1mple
2020-09-19 11:28
i didnt say single word about device being better than s1mple but device is better player than electronic this year and 1 title+1mvp doesnt change that
2020-09-19 11:30
#75
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Belgium Im_new
blamef is baiting and syrson sucks... elec is good but isnt on the level of device
2020-09-19 10:52
#4
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Turkey NextiLizm
Pazzers 1
2020-09-18 20:08
#5
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Denmark Notallama
It's a team game my man.
2020-09-18 20:09
right now I would go 1. Niko 2. Ropz 3. BlameF 4. Device 5. Elige 6. Hunter 7. Electronic 8. Krimz 9. Magisk 10. Dupreeh
2020-09-18 20:09
+1 but electronic is better than hunter i think. And niko def not top 1
2020-09-18 20:14
blameF better than device hahahaha niko is in a slump right now, no way hes even top 3
2020-09-18 20:11
boosted stats, because they played so many matches in Home Sweet Home Cup dude hltv.org/stats/players/15165/blameF?star.. hltv.org/stats/players/7592/device?start..
2020-09-18 20:24
just scroll down to may hltv.org/stats/players/matches/15165/bla.. 1.4 stats vs HONORIS 1.6 vs Jalapeno AGF Nordavind Skade Apeks Secret Espada Sinners Salamander FATE SMASH Apologis also NA Teams like Cloud9, INTZ, SIngularity dude they even played some of them multiple times and even if you dont go with stats, eye test obviously shows device better than blamef, you have to be blind to not see this
2020-09-18 20:28
#54
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Brazil S0N1CANGEL
Where is HEN1, KSCERATO and yuurih ? what world u live ?
2020-09-18 22:56
BR CS LOL
2020-09-19 11:45
The best team in north america is FURIA so yeah BR CS xDxDxD
2020-09-19 17:00
NA LOL Elige is best NA player by a mile
2020-09-19 17:01
in your dreams he can be, but in real life, the best player on NA right now is HEN1
2020-09-19 17:03
everything checks out
2020-09-19 17:04
Just the truth xD
2020-09-19 17:04
btw, just compare ELIGE to KSCERATO nt
2020-09-19 17:09
You think yuurih is comparable to eu t1 players?
2020-09-19 11:56
he is one of the best brazilian players in the world, have a 1.20 rating in the last 3 mounths and 1.05 against TOP 5 teams, so yeah, he is a tier 1 player
2020-09-19 17:02
niko first? ropz second? krimz and dupreeh in top10? your list makes no sense at all
2020-09-19 08:41
easy Niko is the best player outside of s1mple and Zywoo so hes 1st. Krimz still drops numbers on a trash Fnatic team and Dupreeh has been solid all year as an entry fragger. Not really hard to understand but sure.
2020-09-19 11:44
device is better than niko and both krimz and dupreeh doesnt deserve even top20 most likely this year
2020-09-19 11:47
thats your opinion that I didn't ask for but sure
2020-09-19 11:50
opinion that is at least based on facts. you are just biased which is obvious based on your list which is really bad
2020-09-19 11:51
nothing is "facts" just because you look at someones rating and put together a top 10. The fact you think Krimz and Dupreeh dont deserve top 20 shows how stupid you are really
2020-09-19 11:52
based on their actual performance they dont stats are still way more accurate than your biased opinion. there are players that performed way better than those 2 but sure, call me stupid bcs you are biased
2020-09-19 11:54
so if you look at stats either way both of them are top 20 players dummy LOL nt though
2020-09-19 11:55
no they arent
2020-09-19 11:57
hltv.org/stats/players?startDate=2019-09.. remore Zywoo and s1mple then have a count... nt though
2020-09-19 11:59
last 12 months:DDDDDDDDDD and you call me stupid lmao
2020-09-19 12:01
thats what the list is about idiot. What do you want a week by week list LOL
2020-09-19 12:01
its not about last 12 months. its about either this year or atm and in both lists there is no freaking space for dupreeh and krimz in top10 and most likely not even top20. lets consider also their performance last year ahahaha and you call me idiot. hltv stupidity at its best lmao. i will not waste more my time with deluded fanboy so stay mad and biased. bye
2020-09-19 12:03
both Krimz and Dupreeh were voted top 20 players last year LOL you really are stupid huh
2020-09-19 12:04
#7
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India somecunt
1.Allu rest irrelevant
2020-09-18 20:09
+1
2020-09-19 10:26
#140
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Canada cLutcheR7
+1 ALLU THE SAVIOR
2020-09-19 17:56
1. dev1ce 2. EliGE 3. electronic 4. Magisk 5. ropz 6. CerQ 7. blameF 8. Brehze 9. huNter- 10. NiKo
2020-09-18 20:13
elec too high for this year. HEs barely top 10
2020-09-19 12:22
#15
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United States ShawnM
1. blameF 2. ropz 3. EliGE rest idc
2020-09-18 20:14
Getright
2020-09-18 20:15
#18
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Brazil LexusPow
1. Ropz 2. dev1ce 3. Xantares 4. CerQ 5. EliGe 6 . NiKo 7. HEN1 8. dupreeh 9. BlameF 10. Broky Pay me later
2020-09-18 20:17
1 BlameF 2 Elige 3 Niko 4 Device 5 Syrson 6 Electronic 7 Magisk 8 Ropz 9 Hunter 10 Grim
2020-09-18 20:23
the bias is real.
2020-09-18 20:36
device GOAT anyway
2020-09-18 20:25
they realized that neither list used ENCE / FURIA / OG players. and from FNATIC I could only see KRIMZ in a list. From BIG, just Syrson
2020-09-18 20:26
#23
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Korea Nuguri
1. device 2. mir 3. blameF 4. EliGE 5. tabseN 6. syrsoN 7. electronic 8. huNter- 10. NiKo
2020-09-18 20:27
mir? Spirit top 19. mir could be an top 20 player, maybe an top 10 but no top 2
2020-09-18 20:30
#31
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Korea Nuguri
He is statistically the 2nd best player (not counting ZywOo and s1mple) with same amount of maps as average and filtered by top 30.
2020-09-18 20:31
#33
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Faroe Islands |imperator
Top2 this week lmao 😹
2020-09-18 20:32
device? i arent think that
2020-09-18 20:31
Dev1ce can be a good option... if they start to win tournaments
2020-09-18 20:32
ok.
2020-09-18 20:33
1. blameF
2020-09-18 20:28
overrated imo people talk like he is top3 player
2020-09-18 20:31
I think the same, blmeF top 5/3 player
2020-09-18 20:33
top 5 max for me zywoo s1mple, elige, niko and device are obviously better he is great. but not that good
2020-09-18 20:35
He's top 5 tho atleast lmao. I get it why people pick him over dev1ce for 3rd
2020-09-18 20:35
why tho? device entry frags like crazy hltv.org/stats/players/individual/7592/d.. hltv.org/stats/players/individual/15165/.. they have the same amount of maps vs top20 teams. device has 80 Entry frags more with Opening kill ratiov 1.51 Opening kill rating 1.23, which is quite good, almost s1mple/zywoo level I mean we can only rate them for their individual skill and not IGL skills, since we cant see if blamef calls the most or the coach does. just the eye-test tells that device is a better player and the stats tell that do for this year. device ( again ) top3 this year, I think that wont change
2020-09-18 20:48
I didn't say I think so, I said I can see why people pick him over dev1ce
2020-09-18 20:50
in order? for all of 2020: 3. device 4 Elige 5 niko 6. blamef/electronic 7 blamef/electronic 8. ropz 9. tabsen 10 magisk
2020-09-18 20:30
HUNDEN
2020-09-18 20:34
1. dev1ce 2. blameF 3. elige/niko 4. niko/elige 5. ropz 6. magisk 7. electronic 8. nexa 9. hunter 10. brehze
2020-09-18 20:34
Niko , device , blamef .....
2020-09-18 20:37
#43
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Pakistan LoOuU2
Device BlameF Mir Ropz Ellige Hunter Brehze Niko Syrson Tabsen.
2020-09-18 20:38
device NiKo huNter EliGE ropz blameF tabseN syrsoN Brehze electronic
2020-09-18 20:46
but zywoo isnt top 10 player, hmmm
2020-09-18 20:49
Ok let's go: 1. Ropz 2. blameF 3. XANTARES 4. es3tag 5. broky 6. poizon 7. Magisk 8. device 9. nexa 10. REZ
2020-09-18 20:58
imagine having boostisk, boost3dtag, broky and poizon in front of device. xantares worse as well
2020-09-18 22:54
Imagine taking it seriously
2020-09-19 10:07
stopped reading after 1. Ropz
2020-09-19 08:42
device blamef elige NiKo ropz magisk electronic brehze tabsen syrson
2020-09-19 05:46
Tabsen and that's it.
2020-09-19 10:23
1 1. BlameF 2. device 3. huNter 4. ropz 5. tabseN 6. Brehze 7. Magisk 8. NiKo 9. electrnoic 10. nexa
2020-09-19 10:42
1.Device 2.Niko 3.Elige 4.BlameF 5.Ropz 6.Magisk 7.Tabsen 8.Hunter 9.Xantares 10.Broky
2020-09-19 10:48
1.Device 2.Niko 3.Elige 4.BlameF 5.Ropz 6.Magisk 7.Tabsen 8.Hunter 9.Xantares 10.Broky
2020-09-19 10:48
everyone who still put 1.device can you guys please quit hltv? just sign out already. 1. blameF 2. tabseN 3. syrsoN 4. Brehze 5. device 6. magisk 7. cerQ 8. electronic ( because iem katowice only ) 9. shox ( can't believe people forgot how good he is this year, probably deserve #8 ) 10. huNter 11. eliGe 12. ropz 13. broky 14. kscerato 15. hen1 etc
2020-09-19 10:54
#92
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Netherlands ONGix
+1 Imagine simping for device in 2020
2020-09-19 11:52
+1 not because he's been underperforming. its because astralis in general don't even play that much tournament ffs. how the fuck u put him as #1? -___________-
2020-09-19 11:53
Yeah, Device legit doesn't deserve #1 but putting him below brehze is cruel. Also, no Es3tag?
2020-09-19 11:55
ES3TAG DONT EVEN PLAY THAT MUCH THIS YEAR. HOW THE FUCK YOU PUT HIM ON TTOP 10?????????????????????????????????????? WHY??????????????????????????????????????? I PUT BREHZE BECAUSE HE ACTUALLY WIN 2 TOURNAMENTS BACK TO BACK. I KNOW ITS IN NA. BUT READ #95 . IF THIS THREAD MAKE IN THE END OF THIS YEAR OF COURSE I PUT DEVICE AS #3 ES3TAG #5 AND MAGISK #6. CUZ I KNOW ASTRALIS WILL DOING GREAT FOR THE REST OF THIS YEAR. BUT FOR NOW?????????? THEY'RE NOT THERE YETTTTTTTTTTTT. OMGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG
2020-09-19 11:58
My god I ain't even trying to read that.
2020-09-19 12:01
yeah idk why i wrote that much. even i won't read that. sry.
2020-09-19 12:01
A sane person on hltv? Miracle <3
2020-09-19 12:09
#79
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United Kingdom 230IQUSER
elige isnt' even top 5. Guy is mad overrated and isn't even the best NA player rn.
2020-09-19 11:33
My opinion: 1. blameF 2. es3tag 3. syrsoN 4. EliGe 5. dev1ce 6. tabseN 7. NiKo 8. nexa 9. huNter 10. Magisk
2020-09-19 11:35
Device 1 Just to say stfu to #76 lol I dont really know how the rank Will look still some time to go but obviously and I fairly certain it Will be 1 simple 2 zywOo 3 device
2020-09-19 11:41
straight up delusional. quit hltv stupid biased fan. #95
2020-09-19 11:54
No its you that cant stand others dont think BlameF will get 1 lmao his stats are so bosted, Im not saying device is 1 at All but your attitude is disgusting
2020-09-19 12:59
girl.
2020-09-19 13:14
Device Niko ropz and blameF would be top 6 including zywoo and simple, in no particular order
2020-09-19 11:45
1. blameF 2. ropz 3. dev1ce 4. Niko 5. Syrson 6. Es3tag 7. electronic 8. Magisk 9. tabseN 10. Dupreeh
2020-09-19 11:54
blameF more like baitF
2020-09-19 12:12
If him baiting gets the job done... then what's wrong with it?
2020-09-19 17:29
did the job vs mouz xDD
2020-09-19 17:53
One loss... and you're ignoring the other five wins? Including one against a really good looking Astralis?
2020-09-19 19:14
me?
2020-09-19 12:02
#112
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Denmark G4R1X
Without Simple or Zywoo Device Electronic Brehze Es3tag Elige Niko Ropz Niko (Heroic) Cerq Magisk With Simple Zywoo Simple Device Electronic Brehze Zywoo Es3tag Elige Niko Ropz Niko (Heroic)
2020-09-19 12:02
#118
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Canada Matchfix
So many good players coming from the online matches , might be a different ranking than usual
2020-09-19 12:20
Going by stats: hltv.org/stats/players?startDate=2020-01.. 1. NiKo 2. EliGE 3. Ropz 4. electronic 5. Brehze 6. huNter- 7. CeRq 8. nexa 9. mantuu 10. Ethan
2020-09-19 12:38
#124
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Germany _PH1L
ropz Stavn Coldzera (2019 obv.) tabsen syrson nexa hunter kennys dupreeh device electronic
2020-09-19 13:48
You could have just asked for top 12...
2020-09-19 17:02
Xyp9x Rush Frozen Xsepower Mir Buster Grim Mou TaZ Stanislaw
2020-09-19 17:09
1. hen1 2. yuurih 3. kscerato 4. art 5. vini 6.brehze 7.cerq 8.ethan 9.tarik 10.stanislaw
2020-09-19 17:15
1. ropz 2. mantuu 3. brehze 4. tabsen 5. electronic 6. hunter 7. dupreeh 8. mir 9. art 10. konfig
2020-09-19 18:02
AGF
1.30
HONORIS
3.38
Vitality
1.63
Complexity
2.22
FURIA
1.47
G2
2.61
Bet value
Amount of money to be placed
Winning
Odds total ratio
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